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SiJira	Posted - 2007.12.11 20:41:00 - [91] Originally by: vitameatavegemin Edited by: vitameatavegemin on 11/12/2007 17:38:43 this thread is pure gold. no, people can't "not go to jita" if they are stuck in an undock blob with no way of exiting the system. also they can't "not go to jita" if they can't even leave the station. I'm calling that ccp is stupid if they don't take this suggestion. edit: fknign alt! Jones Maloy here they shouldnt have went there in the first place Trashed sig, Shark was here
Crexa g guild	Posted - 2007.12.11 21:02:00 - [92] The Jita sun implodes forming a massive black hole.... (time passes) At the outer edge of the black hole is a ring of purple hazed light, also known as the event horizon. Existing at this boundry are gravitational singularities. These singularities pulse with the frequency of a beating heart. Flickering on and off with each beat. On, off, on, off. Each singularity creates a distortion in the gravity well of the jita black hole. Some say they have seen ghost ships floating in the distortions. Others say these are the lamenting souls of the dead Jitanese. I say they are the Jovian, come to cleanse the galaxy of unholy places....
Zakgram Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.12.11 22:06:00 - [93] You people can get into jita? Amazing!
Little Tigerlilly	Posted - 2007.12.11 22:29:00 - [94] Been hearing people ask for this for a long time... Why not have the option to jump them from the station into one of the surrounding systems for a price? IE you're sitting in the hangar and you choose the Jump Chamber button. Station gives you the choice of the surrounding systems and then jumps you to the point you'd warp to when you leave Jita? (Via the gates) Can charge people 10k or something.
Anya Sardukar	Posted - 2007.12.11 22:55:00 - [95] Quote: they shouldnt have went there in the first place I know people like you find this a little hard to understand, but when some people buy a product...they expect it to work properly. Weird, that.
hydraSlav Synergy Evolved Daisho Syndicate	Posted - 2007.12.11 23:30:00 - [96] Originally by: Benilopax Edited by: Benilopax on 11/12/2007 17:57:11 I never have any trouble when in Jita, more importantly I don't go to Jita. Yet another "don't go to Jita". OK, mr smartboy, show me another place where i can buy sufficient quantities at competitive prices of: Dysprosium War Strategon Stolen Formulas Ships Data Interfaces and many other stuff. Like it or not, some items are only sold in Jita in sufficient numbers and at acceptable competitive prices. Sure, you can find them in some forgotten system, either in singular quantity, or at 25% markup (not competitive), but the main source remains Jita. == Above comments are my personal views Oveur >Local shouldn't be a tactical tool, it's for chat
Kweel Nakashyn Minmatar Aeden Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.12.11 23:33:00 - [97] Originally by: Sergeant Spot Edited by: Sergeant Spot on 10/12/2007 00:42:01 On your next trip to Jita 4-4 Go there in a fast ship (MWD interceptor ideally, but any frig that can sustain a MWD will work). If needed, buy your fast ship there. Undock from 4-4 click the control button to go to max speed. DO NOT click space for a direction. Activate MWD Walk away from computer for at least 20 minutes Come back to computer (you should be well over 1,000 km from the station....), make a Bookmark and name it "Jita 4-4 Undock" Use that Bookmark whenever undocking from Jita 4-4. shhh, whines are funny. 2isk
hydraSlav Synergy Evolved Daisho Syndicate	Posted - 2007.12.12 00:22:00 - [98] Originally by: Kweel Nakashyn shhh, whines are funny. So are people that don't read threads yet reply == Above comments are my personal views Oveur >Local shouldn't be a tactical tool, it's for chat
Bon Hedus Amarr O.E.C Legionnaire Services Ltd.	Posted - 2007.12.12 00:39:00 - [99] Just make anyone who launches from any Jita station instantly jump to a random spot in 0.0 space. Pretty soon Jita will be clear. -------------------------------------- Heavy Lag Spike II belonging to EvE Cluster Node #0815 hits your Connection, wrecking your latency to 998ms
hydraSlav Synergy Evolved Daisho Syndicate	Posted - 2007.12.12 14:39:00 - [100] Bump for the morning devs. Give me 1 reason why this is technically not viable == Above comments are my personal views Oveur >Local shouldn't be a tactical tool, it's for chat
Dravius Luxor	Posted - 2007.12.12 15:31:00 - [101] Jita will never be fixed until traders have the imagination to conceive that they can create trade hubs wherever they like. Click "Buy order". The market price is whatever you set it to, and if your price is better - people leave!!! I know this doesn't help the folks stuck in Jita right now - but maybe in future they'll make alternative arrangements. Going to Jita is entirely unnecessary (see: 'buy order'). Personally I hope Jita doesn't change, because it means all the psycho-traders and metagamers are in one place. But it won't change until people use their initiative to actually change it themselves.
hydraSlav Synergy Evolved Daisho Syndicate	Posted - 2007.12.20 19:39:00 - [102] Work has been hectic, but i am back on the campaign to bump this every day until i get a dev response: Devs, what's the technical limitation for this simplest fix of all? == Above comments are my personal views Oveur >Local shouldn't be a tactical tool, it's for chat
Frug Zenithal Harvest	Posted - 2007.12.20 20:22:00 - [103] Originally by: Crumplecorn Turn the station. There doesn't appear to be a good reason not to. This I love how a guy makes a perfectly reasonable, logical suggestion, and the response of the fanbois on the forums is to troll it. - - - - - - - - - Do not use dotted lines - - - - - - - If you think I'm awesome, say BOOO BOOO!! - Ductoris Neat look what I found - Kreul Hey, my marbles
Photus Caldari Roll For Initiative	Posted - 2007.12.20 20:42:00 - [104] Edited by: Photus on 20/12/2007 20:43:08 Here's a better idea! Jita 4-4 is sort of an economic hub, right? So, just create a new station type. Call it (ready for this?) "Economic Hub"! Load it with exits, facing every direction! Set ship types to default to a certain exit (freighters pointing to the gate, battleships/battlecruisers somewhere else, frigs/destroyers/cruisers who cares?). Give it neon signs to make it look like a market place. Dancing girls too! And a zoo . . . Ok, so I get off topic, but the fact is that 4-4 isn't much of an assembly plant anymore. It's the Jita market place. Having a huge shield-thing that we can gt caught on, and a tiny exit that we easily get stuck in isn't working out so great. Amarr stations shoot us out the bottom, so we can align anywhere, and if we're not paying atention then we auto-level out of the way. Minmatar stations shoots us rather far out from the station. Gallente . .. are worse than 4-4 to begin with, so we won't bring them up. It just goes to show you that you shouldn't kneel down in front of the third rail, grab it with both hands, and **** on it from three feet away.
Bilanto Gatejumper Caldari	Posted - 2007.12.20 22:43:00 - [105] Originally by: hydraSlav Yet another "don't go to Jita". OK, mr smartboy, show me another place where i can buy sufficient quantities at competitive prices of: Dysprosium War Strategon Stolen Formulas Ships Data Interfaces and many other stuff. Like it or not, some items are only sold in Jita in sufficient numbers and at acceptable competitive prices. Sure, you can find them in some forgotten system, either in singular quantity, or at 25% markup (not competitive), but the main source remains Jita. Look in your wallet history and start to contact people to make a deal with them. Once you get a network you don't have to rely on going to Jita. The one that is selling is equally interested in not going there. So you could agree on a price and place where you picked it up. You might even end up saving some dimes becouse its a win-win. Instead of comming up with a lot of ideas of how to make Jita even more laggy (Yes, I see your logic, but I also see the flaw in it) try to think of how you can make the situation better for your self.
Bilanto Gatejumper Caldari	Posted - 2007.12.20 22:47:00 - [106] Originally by: hydraSlav Bump for the morning devs. Give me 1 reason why this is technically not viable Its not talking about if its viable or not. You want to solve a problem. You think you have a sollution, but you will end up with nothing gained in a litle while. Point is: Even if your ide should work it will only make more people flooding the system and then make it back to lagging again. Remember that its the total amount in Jita thats making the lag, not on station 4-4. And even if people would get faster out of the system it would only just lead to more people going in there once lag getting better. So: Hush. Stop bumping silly ideas and start thing what you can change in your own way to get rid of the problem.
VicturusTeSaluto Metafarmers	Posted - 2007.12.20 22:48:00 - [107] People do not need any more encouragement to be in jita
Cadela Fria Amarr Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.12.20 23:01:00 - [108] Edited by: Cadela Fria on 20/12/2007 23:01:03 Originally by: hydraSlav Bump for the morning devs. Give me 1 reason why this is technically not viable You know you really are coming off as an idiot you know that? I'm not saying you are one, but you're coming off as one..Have you even CONSIDERED, that the 4-4 station was not picked by CCP to be the main trade station. That's right..you know who it was? US! The players! We picked the station in that system to do all the trading in. But wait! There's more! Guess who picked the system? That's right, WE DID! Oh but that's not everything, guess what? You are utterly moronic if you have any sort of belief that CCP is TRYING to create lag, or keep people in system, or TRYING to make it harder for you. If you do believe this, please hit yourself with a shovel till you stop believing it, kthxbai. Oh, more?? Why yes! More! I'm sorry to break this to you, but even if the station is going to get turned around, or it's been put on the list of things to do, guess what..It will be EXTREMELY LOW Priority..Probably won't happen for the next year or two, as in all honesty, there are a LOT of much more important things, then the facing of the Jita station. All in all it comes down to a simple question..Is your business important enough for you to endure the pain and suffering of entering Jita at all? No? Stay out then...Yes? Put on your helmet, go for it and hope for the best.
hydraSlav Synergy Evolved Daisho Syndicate	Posted - 2007.12.21 14:18:00 - [109] Originally by: Bilanto Gatejumper Point is: Even if your ide should work it will only make more people flooding the system and then make it back to lagging again. I am not delusional to think that this will solve the lag issue entirely. But if people aren't stuck in the exit clusterbump****, there will be less of them on the undock point, and people won't be having blackscreen on undock == Above comments are my personal views Oveur >Local shouldn't be a tactical tool, it's for chat
SiJira	Posted - 2007.12.23 15:38:00 - [110] Originally by: hydraSlav Originally by: Bilanto Gatejumper Point is: Even if your ide should work it will only make more people flooding the system and then make it back to lagging again. I am not delusional to think that this will solve the lag issue entirely. But if people aren't stuck in the exit clusterbump****, there will be less of them on the undock point, and people won't be having blackscreen on undock and so more will come do you know how many people dont go to jita just because of the heavy traffic? what do you think happens when legit news spreads that jita has less lag and it is easier to undock and warp out? not to say that any of the lag there is simulated - there are just so many people there and it is in fact the reason that many others dont come Trashed sig, Shark was here
hydraSlav Synergy Evolved Daisho Syndicate	Posted - 2007.12.23 22:13:00 - [111] Edited by: hydraSlav on 23/12/2007 22:13:14 Originally by: SiJira do you know how many people dont go to jita just because of the heavy traffic? what do you think happens when legit news spreads that jita has less lag and it is easier to undock and warp out? They will come, and they will leave, without being stuck == Above comments are my personal views Oveur >Local shouldn't be a tactical tool, it's for chat
Vandervecken Smith MMK Design and Logistic	Posted - 2007.12.23 22:47:00 - [112] There's a simple in game justification. "To ease undocking chaos, the Caldari Navy today organised a fleet of tugboats to turn Jita 180 degrees, for everyone's convenience. This will be paid for by a 1% increase in sales tax for the next month." Seriously, do it.
Niding Polaris Project Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.24 07:16:00 - [113] I read the first and last page of this thread... And as has been said by others....Choose a different system as your tradehub. As with everything, at first it wont be able to compete, but ive found Amarr to be sufficient for 99% of what I need, buying and selling. And its improving all the time. At one point ppl just have to come to grips with the fact that the system just cant handle more traffic and find secondary hubs. The lag and desyncs in fleetfights should have higher priority. POS errors that has consequenses during a fleetbattle should be fixed. etc etc...turning jita 4-4 180 degrees wont stop the system to lag/be unstable. That said, I dont see a reason why it shouldnt either. If it did mean ppl would leave faster it would be a good thing.
Dred'Pirate Jesus Amarr Ministry of War	Posted - 2007.12.24 07:27:00 - [114] Originally by: Crumplecorn Turn the station. There doesn't appear to be a good reason not to. Turning the station to allow easy warp to gates would unduly nerf suicide gankers/war target hunters and therefore is not a viable option.. Originally by: David Hackworth ò If you find yourself in a fair fight, you didn't plan your mission properly.

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