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hydraSlav
Synergy Evolved Daisho Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.12.10 00:28:00 -
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For the sake of everything that's holy! What the hell are you trying to achieve CCP? World record for the number of characters stuck in a non-working system? Almost 950 people in Jita if the map is to be trusted.
And i bet majority of them want nothing more than to GET THE HELL OUT OF IT.
But no... undocking from 4-4 station, you are facing ... nothing. And to warp to any gate, you got to flip your ship 180 degrees, bouncing off everyone else and the frigging station too.
LET US OUT CCP! TURN THE FRIGGING STATION AROUND, so we can undock and warp towards the gate
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy
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Posted - 2007.12.10 00:31:00 -
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... and the other link...
Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton thats a boot.ini a file used by windows
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hydraSlav
Synergy Evolved Daisho Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.12.10 00:36:00 -
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Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny ... and the other link...
Yes, i am the end user. Whats your point? Turning the station around would allow people to leave the system faster instead of being stuck in the cluster**** of ships outside.
CCP doesn't want you to leave Jita. CCP is going for some ****** record of most people in system prolly.
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Ghreymar LaNayeur
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Posted - 2007.12.10 00:38:00 -
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/signed
theres really no reason for the station to be facing this direction (though i guess it does help suiciders on teh station :P)
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Sergeant Spot
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.12.10 00:40:00 -
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Edited by: Sergeant Spot on 10/12/2007 00:42:01
On your next trip to Jita 4-4
Go there in a fast ship (MWD interceptor ideally, but any frig that can sustain a MWD will work). If needed, buy your fast ship there.
Undock from 4-4
click the control button to go to max speed.
DO NOT click space for a direction.
Activate MWD
Walk away from computer for at least 20 minutes
Come back to computer (you should be well over 1,000 km from the station....), make a Bookmark and name it "Jita 4-4 Undock"
Use that Bookmark whenever undocking from Jita 4-4.
Play nice while you butcher each other.
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Admiral Pelleon
Caldari White Shadow Imperium Burning Horizons
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Posted - 2007.12.10 00:41:00 -
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There's a planet right in front of undock to warp to.
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Voculus
E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.12.10 00:42:00 -
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Gotta co-sign this. It would be a sound improvement, by any measure. _________________________________________________________
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Imperator Jora'h
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Posted - 2007.12.10 00:43:00 -
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Originally by: Sergeant Spot On your next trip to Jita 4-4
Go there in a fast ship (MWD interceptor ideally, but any frig that can sustain a MWD will work). If needed, buy your fast ship there.
Undock from 4-4
click the control button to go to max speed.
DO NOT click space for a direction.
Activate MWD
Walk away from computer for at least 20 minutes
Come back to computer, make a Bookmark and name it "Jita 4-4 Undock"
Use that Bookmark whenever undocking from Jita 4-4.
^^This. Works great.
That or IIRC there is a station just a bit to the left of the undock within sight of the 4-4 undock. Just warp there and then to somewhere else.
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xttz
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.12.10 00:44:00 -
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Planet 4 moon 1.
Seriously. It even works for freighters.
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hydraSlav
Synergy Evolved Daisho Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.12.10 00:47:00 -
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Edited by: hydraSlav on 10/12/2007 00:48:14
Originally by: Sergeant Spot Edited by: Sergeant Spot on 10/12/2007 00:42:01
On your next trip to Jita 4-4
Go there in a fast ship (MWD interceptor ideally, but any frig that can sustain a MWD will work). If needed, buy your fast ship there.
Undock from 4-4
click the control button to go to max speed.
DO NOT click space for a direction.
Activate MWD
Walk away from computer for at least 20 minutes
Come back to computer (you should be well over 1,000 km from the station....), make a Bookmark and name it "Jita 4-4 Undock"
Use that Bookmark whenever undocking from Jita 4-4.
Don't even need to do that. Warping to planet IV work just as good as any insta-undock bookmark
However this requires your screen to be LOADED FIRST.
If everyone did this, there wouldn't be a cluster**** of ships in the undock. However majority don't know about this, and there are so many ships outside that those of us who DO know about this cannot use it, cause we are ******* blackscreened!
Give me one reason why CCP shouldn't turn the station around, unless CCP doesn't want you to leave the system
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hydraSlav
Synergy Evolved Daisho Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.12.10 00:49:00 -
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Originally by: Admiral Pelleon There's a planet right in front of undock to warp to.
Doesn't work if your screen cannot load
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hydraSlav
Synergy Evolved Daisho Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.12.10 00:50:00 -
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Originally by: Imperator Jora'h
That or IIRC there is a station just a bit to the left of the undock within sight of the 4-4 undock. Just warp there and then to somewhere else.
Can't do that when you have no control of the client cause your screen is black
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Imperator Jora'h
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Posted - 2007.12.10 00:50:00 -
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Originally by: hydraSlav Don't even need to do that. Warping to planet IV work just as good as any insta-undock bookmark
However this requires your screen to be LOADED FIRST.
If everyone did this, there wouldn't be a cluster**** of ships in the undock. However majority don't know about this, and there are so many ships outside that those of us who DO know about this cannot use it, cause we are ******* blackscreened!
Give me one reason why CCP shouldn't turn the station around, unless CCP doesn't want you to leave the system
Well...if everyone did that they'd just all be piled up next to the planet instead of the undock.
I really wish CCP would the blackscreen issue. By that I mean do not place me in space till my screen is loaded. Then pop me in rather than finding myself at a dead stop in a ball of hell.
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hydraSlav
Synergy Evolved Daisho Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.12.10 00:51:00 -
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Originally by: xttz Planet 4 moon 1.
Seriously. It even works for freighters.
I am sure it works, when you can actually see your screen
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hydraSlav
Synergy Evolved Daisho Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.12.10 00:53:00 -
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Originally by: Imperator Jora'h Well...if everyone did that they'd just all be piled up next to the planet instead of the undock.
LOL true . Hence why turning the station towards the gates and letting people undock-warp directly to gates is better
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Cyriel Longinus
XERCORE
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Posted - 2007.12.10 00:56:00 -
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A little less caffine maybe? ... but I can relate.
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xttz
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.12.10 00:57:00 -
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Originally by: hydraSlav I am sure it works, when you can actually see your screen
Originally by: hydraSlav TURN THE FRIGGING STATION AROUND, so we can undock and warp towards the gate
What?
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Kirjava
Lothian Quay Industries Zzz
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Posted - 2007.12.10 00:58:00 -
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I suggested this 2 weeks back - second time someone has suggested it since then
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Kylar Renpurs
Dusk Blade
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Posted - 2007.12.10 01:01:00 -
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I can get out of Jita 4-4 in my freighter in under 2 minutes. Learn tricks or keep crying.
Oh, and to jump on the same old bandwagon, you don't have to go to Jita.
Because I'll ask you, how is CCP forcing you to go to Jita? You can buy anything anywhere in the game.
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Sal Mintago
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Posted - 2007.12.10 01:02:00 -
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I'm a bit new to Eve - what's the story here? Since Trinity, I have a hard time even logging in if I've been unlucky enough to leave my character at Jita. Is there any prospect of an improvement in the near future?
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Ed Gein
lolcat incorporated
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Posted - 2007.12.10 01:03:00 -
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Originally by: Sergeant Spot Edited by: Sergeant Spot on 10/12/2007 00:42:01
On your next trip to Jita 4-4
Go there in a fast ship (MWD interceptor ideally, but any frig that can sustain a MWD will work). If needed, buy your fast ship there.
Undock from 4-4
click the control button to go to max speed.
DO NOT click space for a direction.
Activate MWD
Walk away from computer for at least 20 minutes
Come back to computer (you should be well over 1,000 km from the station....), make a Bookmark and name it "Jita 4-4 Undock"
Use that Bookmark whenever undocking from Jita 4-4.
This a great way to fix the problem, but,
The average noob won't want to/know how to do this or even read the forums.
This also means if everyone did this, it would add 200,000 bookmarks to the server.
From just a gameplay standpoint, you shouldn't have to do this to get around a design flaw. --------------------------------------------------------------------- What do you call the person that brings a gun to a knife fight?
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Kirjava
Lothian Quay Industries Zzz
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Posted - 2007.12.10 01:03:00 -
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Originally by: Sal Mintago I'm a bit new to Eve - what's the story here? Since Trinity, I have a hard time even logging in if I've been unlucky enough to leave my character at Jita. Is there any prospect of an improvement in the near future?
None whatsoever.
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2007.12.10 01:04:00 -
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Turn the station. There doesn't appear to be a good reason not to. -
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hydraSlav
Synergy Evolved Daisho Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.12.10 01:09:00 -
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Originally by: xttz
Originally by: hydraSlav I am sure it works, when you can actually see your screen
Originally by: hydraSlav TURN THE FRIGGING STATION AROUND, so we can undock and warp towards the gate
What?
If station is turned, people spend less time undocking and warping. If people spend less time undocking and warping, people will leave system faster. If people leave system faster, there will be less people stuck in Jita. If there will be less people stuck Jita, i wouldn't be faced with a blackscreen. If i am not faced with a blackscreen, i can undock and leave.
Simple enough for you? Or do you need visual aid?
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Kirjava
Lothian Quay Industries Zzz
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Posted - 2007.12.10 01:10:00 -
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Link to the old topic (wasn't 2 weeks ago - I have a crap sense of time )
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hydraSlav
Synergy Evolved Daisho Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.12.10 01:14:00 -
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Originally by: Kirjava Link to the old topic (wasn't 2 weeks ago - I have a crap sense of time )
I will make a new thread every day until we get a dev response giving us a technical reason why this can't be done, or admitting they don't want Jita numbers to drop cause they are gunning for some record. I suggest you do the same. Maybe one of this threads will finally get to them
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Voculus
E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.12.10 01:14:00 -
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Originally by: Kylar Renpurs I can get out of Jita 4-4 in my freighter in under 2 minutes. Learn tricks or keep crying.
Oh, and to jump on the same old bandwagon, you don't have to go to Jita.
Because I'll ask you, how is CCP forcing you to go to Jita? You can buy anything anywhere in the game.
So in your view, it's better that CCP keep the 4-4 logjam in place? _________________________________________________________
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Gojyu
Ever Flow
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Posted - 2007.12.10 01:14:00 -
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So let me get this straight. You accidentally jumped into jita, or some bug moved your character there, and now you're surprised that you can't leave? People like you are the reason jita is crowded in the first place, wait till just before downtime to move your character out.
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Kavol Valarius
Amarr Unity of Honor Legion of Honor
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Posted - 2007.12.10 01:36:00 -
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Here's a better idea. Make it spin perpetually on its axis, spewing out ships like something out of the exorcist.
[Pro Tip: Don't take this seriously.] -----
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Odewad
Gallente Breadmen Make Better Luvers
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Posted - 2007.12.10 01:55:00 -
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Originally by: Kavol Valarius Here's a better idea. Make it spin perpetually on its axis, spewing out ships like something out of the exorcist.
hahaha .... /this
I'd fight the lag just to watch
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Wacoede
Amarr Allied Combat Team Endless Horizon
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Posted - 2007.12.10 02:06:00 -
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Originally by: Odewad
Originally by: Kavol Valarius Here's a better idea. Make it spin perpetually on its axis, spewing out ships like something out of the exorcist.
hahaha .... /this
I'd fight the lag just to watch
so would I LOL _______________________________
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Kylar Renpurs
Dusk Blade
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Posted - 2007.12.10 02:09:00 -
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Quote: So in your view, it's better that CCP keep the 4-4 logjam in place?
You think CCP put it there in the first place?
Think about it. Suddenly word gets round that Jita 4-4 "now faces the right direction" (whatever ). Whatever positive effect this will have, EVEN MORE people will then roll on to Jita and it'll just become worse, and it *wouldn't* stop the people who undock outside Jita, then just go AFK, spinning people off in random directions.
There's plenty of ways around the jam you speak of.
A) create a warp-out insta bookmark (Blackscreening? doesn't happen to me (aka WFM)...) B) DON'T GO to Jita. C) If you're only going for bits and bobs, use something a little more agile than an indy or freighter, destroyer does a good job and has a reasonable cargohold.
C'mon, you've got a head between your shoulders right?
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Ryuu Katsu
High4Life SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.10 02:10:00 -
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Edited by: Ryuu Katsu on 10/12/2007 02:11:57 /signed
Why not turn the station around, sounds like a sound choice that I can't imagine would be hard to implement. A few minute quick fix changing the station vectors, uploaded after next downtime. I can't see many people objecting to this, except perhaps station campers.
/also signed
Yes, if at all possible, do not place my ship into space while my screen is still black while loading population data. How am I to fend for my ship and take action to keep my ship in one piece if I have no control over it nor any visible information on my screen about me environment and current threats in it?
Couldn't some routine be added to undocking or even fleet-warping that verifies that the corresponding population and environment data has been loaded before the player gets placed in space? Instead of the other way around that seems to be the case now from what I'm reading above, placing the player in space and letting him pray to the gods of EVE that he still be alive when his screen finally comes alive after undocking/warping?
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Illyria Ambri
RennTech
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Posted - 2007.12.10 02:34:00 -
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Try this.. rather then just undocking and trying to warp away immediately and playing bumper cars..
the moment you undock.. look straight up or straight down.. then dbl click so your ship will go either up or down.. then you can warp away at your leisure while everyone else sits there trying to go straight ahead or at some other ineffective angle.
remember.. this is lame 3d space.. there is an up and down ------------ This is not War... This is pest control - Dalek Sek
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Voculus
E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.12.10 02:43:00 -
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Originally by: Kylar Renpurs
Quote: So in your view, it's better that CCP keep the 4-4 logjam in place?
You think CCP put it there in the first place?
Think about it. Suddenly word gets round that Jita 4-4 "now faces the right direction" (whatever ). Whatever positive effect this will have, EVEN MORE people will then roll on to Jita and it'll just become worse, and it *wouldn't* stop the people who undock outside Jita, then just go AFK, spinning people off in random directions.
Jita 4-4 is a vital part of the Eve economy, so anything CCP soes to make it easier for people to painlessly come and go, will only enhance the game as a whole. You're looking through the wrong end of the telescope. The goal should not be to put the paying customers through extra grief in the hopes of forcing them to spread out. It's been tried, and it doesn't work. You don't smooth the flow of traffic by throwing up roadblocks. _________________________________________________________
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Foxfire Inferno
Gallente Decendent Inc.
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Posted - 2007.12.10 03:07:00 -
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Originally by: Voculus
Originally by: Kylar Renpurs
Quote: So in your view, it's better that CCP keep the 4-4 logjam in place?
You think CCP put it there in the first place?
Think about it. Suddenly word gets round that Jita 4-4 "now faces the right direction" (whatever ). Whatever positive effect this will have, EVEN MORE people will then roll on to Jita and it'll just become worse, and it *wouldn't* stop the people who undock outside Jita, then just go AFK, spinning people off in random directions.
Jita 4-4 is a vital part of the Eve economy, so anything CCP soes to make it easier for people to painlessly come and go, will only enhance the game as a whole. You're looking through the wrong end of the telescope. The goal should not be to put the paying customers through extra grief in the hopes of forcing them to spread out. It's been tried, and it doesn't work. You don't smooth the flow of traffic by throwing up roadblocks.
Here here. All they need to do is create a patch that, among the other things that it's gonna fix post Trinity-update, will rotate the station back the way it was before. Of course, that'll probably be a few more days/weeks seeing how many seperate issues have arisen since Trinity was released. Until then, all we can do is use the said methods to clear that situation and move on until a permenant fix comes.
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Gojyu
Ever Flow
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Posted - 2007.12.10 03:20:00 -
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Originally by: Voculus
Originally by: Kylar Renpurs
Quote: So in your view, it's better that CCP keep the 4-4 logjam in place?
You think CCP put it there in the first place?
Think about it. Suddenly word gets round that Jita 4-4 "now faces the right direction" (whatever ). Whatever positive effect this will have, EVEN MORE people will then roll on to Jita and it'll just become worse, and it *wouldn't* stop the people who undock outside Jita, then just go AFK, spinning people off in random directions.
Jita 4-4 is a vital part of the Eve economy, so anything CCP soes to make it easier for people to painlessly come and go, will only enhance the game as a whole. You're looking through the wrong end of the telescope. The goal should not be to put the paying customers through extra grief in the hopes of forcing them to spread out. It's been tried, and it doesn't work. You don't smooth the flow of traffic by throwing up roadblocks.
I disagree, any increase in the performance of jita will only result in more people coming to jita, which is harmful to the game, not helpful to it. It is not possible to make jita lag free by making it easier for people to go to the system
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hydraSlav
Synergy Evolved Daisho Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.12.10 03:24:00 -
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Originally by: Gojyu People like you are the reason jita is crowded in the first place, wait till just before downtime to move your character out.
Right moron, i am not waking up at 5am to go play an internet spaceships game, i got work in the morning.
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Gojyu
Ever Flow
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Posted - 2007.12.10 03:34:00 -
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Originally by: hydraSlav
Originally by: Gojyu People like you are the reason jita is crowded in the first place, wait till just before downtime to move your character out.
Right moron, i am not waking up at 5am to go play an internet spaceships game, i got work in the morning.
International game, had no idea what time it was over there when downtime starts. There are lulls in the game where it's possible to freely move around jita when the population drops, I'd suggest finding one of those times that are accessable to you so that you can log back in and leave the system. It shouldn't take you any more than a week max and you should have a couple of windows when you can freely move in and out of the system
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Aranbaal
Minmatar Malevolent Intentions
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Posted - 2007.12.10 03:41:00 -
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Originally by: xttz Planet 4 moon 1.
Seriously. It even works for freighters.
Yes planet 4 moon 1 where after this post you will find every suicide ganker in system waithing for you
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Araxmas
The Blue Dagger Mercenery Agency
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Posted - 2007.12.10 04:39:00 -
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Originally by: hydraSlav
Originally by: xttz
Originally by: hydraSlav I am sure it works, when you can actually see your screen
Originally by: hydraSlav TURN THE FRIGGING STATION AROUND, so we can undock and warp towards the gate
What?
If station is turned, people spend less time undocking and warping. If people spend less time undocking and warping, people will leave system faster. If people leave system faster, there will be less people stuck in Jita. If there will be less people stuck Jita, i wouldn't be faced with a blackscreen. If i am not faced with a blackscreen, i can undock and leave.
Simple enough for you? Or do you need visual aid?
I think he was implying the fact that you said that your screen doesn't load to warp to the planet...yet you imply that you can warp to the stargate (autopilot or not) which surely would not be possible if your screen can't load. --------
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Bish Ounen
Gallente Omni-Core Freedom Fighters
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Posted - 2007.12.10 04:53:00 -
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Hmmm...
You know, if I ever have a reason to go to Jita, it would be to go in a Thorax or a Deimos with a MWD and multiple nanos and overdrives, and just go "Undockpoint Bowling".
Heck, I'd probably be given free ISK by players just for performing a community service by clearing that area!
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Ararius
Earned In Blood Divine Retribution Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.10 04:58:00 -
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Originally by: Bish Ounen Hmmm...
You know, if I ever have a reason to go to Jita, it would be to go in a Thorax or a Deimos with a MWD and multiple nanos and overdrives, and just go "Undockpoint Bowling".
Heck, I'd probably be given free ISK by players just for performing a community service by clearing that area!
Use a Typhoon, more mass to make things move.
Also, you can go from different angles, and have more then 1 person doing it.
I also sign for having it spinn on it's axis.
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Gealbhan
Caldari The SAS The Kano Organisation
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Posted - 2007.12.10 05:01:00 -
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4. Never, ever go to Jita 4-4 Caldari Navy Assembly Plant.
Only go to this awful place with an Alt, and make sure his transport is well tanked against random suicide bomber Kestrels, Caracals and Ravens at the undock point. This place is a deathtrap. With loading times of over five minutes on even high end machines, peak times are definitely to be avoided. Beats the hell out of me why everyone has to go to that damn station for everythingà
Taken from Here
In short, Don't Go To Jita.
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Lawrences Dragon
Amarr Zantiu Braun
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Posted - 2007.12.10 05:24:00 -
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No one is forcing you to go to jita remember.
You could do just as well shopping in Amarr, Amamakke or any of the other market hubs. Amamakke is a great hub, I suggest you go there for your shopping needs :)
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BoB sucks
Burning Bush Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.12.10 05:55:00 -
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Originally by: Sal Mintago I'm a bit new to Eve - what's the story here? Since Trinity, I have a hard time even logging in if I've been unlucky enough to leave my character at Jita. Is there any prospect of an improvement in the near future?
NO, no matter how much hardware CCP throws at jita, people just keep on cramming in more and more. STAY OUT OF JITA
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hydraSlav
Synergy Evolved Daisho Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.12.10 06:08:00 -
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Originally by: Araxmas
Originally by: hydraSlav
Originally by: xttz
Originally by: hydraSlav I am sure it works, when you can actually see your screen
Originally by: hydraSlav TURN THE FRIGGING STATION AROUND, so we can undock and warp towards the gate
What?
If station is turned, people spend less time undocking and warping. If people spend less time undocking and warping, people will leave system faster. If people leave system faster, there will be less people stuck in Jita. If there will be less people stuck Jita, i wouldn't be faced with a blackscreen. If i am not faced with a blackscreen, i can undock and leave.
Simple enough for you? Or do you need visual aid?
I think he was implying the fact that you said that your screen doesn't load to warp to the planet...yet you imply that you can warp to the stargate (autopilot or not) which surely would not be possible if your screen can't load.
Yes, and i am trying to say that while the system is overloaded (because there are too many people bouncing on station), i get a blackscreen. If those people (bouncing on station), had an easy way out off the station and out of the system, they wouldn't be there, hence i wouldn't get blackscreen. And to give those people (bouncing on station) and easy way off it is to turn the station around
Lets try this again: -The cause of me blackscreening is dozens of OTHER pilots being stuck in the undock. -Remove those pilots, and i won't blackscreen (and then i could warp to gate or planet IV myself) -To help those pilots get off the station, turn it around.
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hydraSlav
Synergy Evolved Daisho Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.12.10 06:11:00 -
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Originally by: Lawrences Dragon No one is forcing you to go to jita remember.
You could do just as well shopping in Amarr, Amamakke or any of the other market hubs. Amamakke is a great hub, I suggest you go there for your shopping needs :)
I've been playing this game for over 2 years. I know all the empire's major hubs, and most of the secondary hubs. However, there are certain items that are only sold in Jita in sufficient quantities. These are moon materials, and most of the invention stuff. And yes i was in an alt: doesn't change the issue though.
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Piwat King
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Posted - 2007.12.10 06:20:00 -
[49]
While they are at at..
REDESIGN the stations in high volume systems.
Add 4 undocking bays, each on a different side of the station, when you undock you randomly get put into one, it would cut alot of the problems out with that station and also the station in RENS.
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Forsch
Auctoritan Syndicate Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.10 06:30:00 -
[50]
Originally by: Imperator Jora'h I really wish CCP would the blackscreen issue. By that I mean do not place me in space till my screen is loaded. Then pop me in rather than finding myself at a dead stop in a ball of hell.
Would be a really good change. I hate when I play on my laptop, my screen doesn't load and there's wartargets outside of the station. Few days ago it took even longer than 30 seconds for my screen to load. I got a picture on the screen just in time to warp my pod out.
Forsch Defender of the empire
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hydraSlav
Synergy Evolved Daisho Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.12.10 14:17:00 -
[51]
From the front page:
Quote: 12/10/2007 1:00:29 PM EVE Online: Breaks The Wall Yet Again! On 2007.12.09 20:18 TranquilityÆs simultaneous user number reached an astonishing 41,690 up from 38,242. This marks yet another proud moment in EVE OnlineÆs history
What's to be proud of CCP? That you got 1000 users stuck in Jita unable to leave cause they can't load the system?!
== Above comments are my personal views Oveur >Local shouldn't be a tactical tool, it's for chat
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Bish Ounen
Gallente Omni-Core Freedom Fighters
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Posted - 2007.12.10 14:22:00 -
[52]
Heh,
This almost sounds like something Goonswarm might do. To force people to sell stuff in places other than Jita, send 1000 Alt accounts to Jita to jam it full. Then people HAVE to go somewhere else.
Ooops.. Did I just give them an idea?
(Muwahahahaha! )
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Kirjava
Lothian Quay Industries Zzz
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Posted - 2007.12.10 14:27:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Bish Ounen Heh,
This almost sounds like something Goonswarm might do. To force people to sell stuff in places other than Jita, send 1000 Alt accounts to Jita to jam it full. Then people HAVE to go somewhere else.
Ooops.. Did I just give them an idea?
(Muwahahahaha! )
/me feels an ominous quake in the air, like someone just walked over his grave.... *stares in terror as the perimiter gate fires up constantly for 10 miniutes!
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Spaceman Jack
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Posted - 2007.12.10 14:32:00 -
[54]
/signed
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Bish Ounen
Gallente Omni-Core Freedom Fighters
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Posted - 2007.12.10 14:38:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Kirjava Edited by: Kirjava on 10/12/2007 14:27:19
Originally by: Bish Ounen Heh,
This almost sounds like something Goonswarm might do. To force people to sell stuff in places other than Jita, send 1000 Alt accounts to Jita to jam it full. Then people HAVE to go somewhere else.
Ooops.. Did I just give them an idea?
(Muwahahahaha! )
/me feels an ominous quake in the air, like someone just walked over his grave.... *stares in terror as the perimeter gate fires up constantly for 10 miniutes! Maybe thats what the twinkly star is - a goonalt armada in a mass jump.
Hee hee! I wonder if something like that would crash the server? (Or at least the Jita dedicated section of it)
I remember when I used to play Planetside there was a bug where if you laid enough of a specific type of mine (the "boomer" mine. A shaped charge not unlike a Claymore) and then set them all off with an EMP blast, it would crash the server node, taking down an entire continent at a time.
It was done a couple times when one side was being badly beaten by another in a critical battle, a group of people on the losing side would go find a quiet hiding spot, lay an amount of mines over the critical amount and set them off, crashing the server and saving the battle. (when the server came back up in 5 minutes, the continent would be reset, allowing a fresh start) Obviously, this was a bannable offense, but with the ability to create trial accounts, and playing through proxies, it made it almost impossible to stop. Until they limited the amount of layable boomers to 5 per player. Then the effort required to crash the server was so high it wasn't worth it.
It would be interesting to see this type of behavior in use in EVE. Not that I would EVER encourage crashing the server. I'm just speaking from a sociological standpoint, it would be interesting to study the group dynamics involved in such a thing.
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zeeZ Exus
Citizens of E.A.R.T.H. E.A.R.T.H. Federation
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Posted - 2007.12.10 14:41:00 -
[56]
Turn THE station at 4-4 around here, turn that one at 4-4 around there... I hope they rotate the business tribunal just for lulz
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Kirjava
Lothian Quay Industries Zzz
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Posted - 2007.12.10 14:55:00 -
[57]
Bish, I can somehow see them doing it anyway, they get thousands of haulers and say it was to refuel there POS because they cant afford jump freighters - who could realy argue with that?
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Kharadran Sullath
Caldari Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades
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Posted - 2007.12.10 14:55:00 -
[58]
Edited by: Kharadran Sullath on 10/12/2007 14:57:42
Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny ... and the other link...
Pointing out that the station in Jita should be adjusted due to one being forced to spend 15 minutes to get out of the tangled mess of haulers outside doesn't qualify the OP as a backdoor coder tbh...
Originally by: hydraSlav From the front page:
Quote: 12/10/2007 1:00:29 PM EVE Online: Breaks The Wall Yet Again! On 2007.12.09 20:18 TranquilityÆs simultaneous user number reached an astonishing 41,690 up from 38,242. This marks yet another proud moment in EVE OnlineÆs history
What's to be proud of CCP? That you got 1000 users stuck in Jita unable to leave cause they can't load the system?!
...but he's evidently an idiot.
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Originally by: Graveyard Tan I call bull**** and troll. If you are deaf, how are you even able to read this or type replies?
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Ares Lightfeather
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.12.10 15:02:00 -
[59]
Hum.
If you turned the station 180¦, wouldn't that make the people that warp from the gates arrive directly at the undock point, therefore creating collisions and preventing people to leave even more than now ?
That would be fun to watch, though. -- random eve-related content -- |
Mephistophilis
Cygnus Alpha Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.12.10 15:35:00 -
[60]
Originally by: Kavol Valarius Here's a better idea. Make it spin perpetually on its axis, spewing out ships like something out of the exorcist.
[Pro Tip: Don't take this seriously.]
LOL i like this idea
Actually tbh i think 4-4 should be turned 180 deg, i'd get people out of jita much faster. And anything is better than dancing outside the dock with 5 freighters
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Triksterism
Gallente Image Not Found
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Posted - 2007.12.10 15:46:00 -
[61]
Hey, that rotating station idea with the spitting out of ships, mighty funny. Go with that one. +win ----------------------------------- CCP Please update my portrait on the website/forums :D
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Forando
Interstellar Cowards
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Posted - 2007.12.10 15:50:00 -
[62]
Quote: Turn the Jita station 180 degrees!
I concur! EVE needs at least one station turned upside-down. It's Zero-G BABY!
Enjoy, and fly safe..
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RaAshan
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Posted - 2007.12.10 16:31:00 -
[63]
Originally by: Ares Lightfeather Hum.
If you turned the station 180¦, wouldn't that make the people that warp from the gates arrive directly at the undock point, therefore creating collisions and preventing people to leave even more than now ?
That would be fun to watch, though.
Congradulations, you are the winner of this thread!
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vipeer
Celestial Horizon Corp. Valainaloce
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Posted - 2007.12.10 16:44:00 -
[64]
Originally by: hydraSlav
TURN THE FRIGGING STATION AROUND, so we can undock and warp towards the gate
Signed -------------SIG STARTS HERE------------- Chaining BoBo in south Feyth:
Your Neutron Blaster Cannon II perfectly strikes Dukath [EVOL]<BOB>(Vindicator), wrecking for 741.0 damage. |
OneSock
Crown Industries
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Posted - 2007.12.10 16:53:00 -
[65]
How to undock from Jita 4-4:
1. Click Undock 2. Wait for black screen to appear 3. Quit eve 4, log back in. (your ship should have emergency warped away from station) 5. cancel warp. (try and stop ship warping back to station).
Even if you end up back at the undock point, this process seems to be quicker than actually waiting for the black screen to go away.
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northwesten
Amarr Trinity Corporate Services
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Posted - 2007.12.10 17:01:00 -
[66]
here a smarter answer OP DONT GO TO JITA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FFS
nubs
Trinity Corporate Services
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Ironnight
Caldari x13
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Posted - 2007.12.10 17:03:00 -
[67]
Poor lemmings, next time stop and think, geee 950 people in Jita, maybe I should stay the F away for now.
Yes 2+2 really = 4.
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Haurian Zealot
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Posted - 2007.12.10 17:04:00 -
[68]
Edited by: Haurian Zealot on 10/12/2007 17:04:46
Originally by: OneSock 4, log back in.
i have found the small flaw in your plan
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Splagada
Minmatar Tides of Silence Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.10 17:33:00 -
[69]
Originally by: Kavol Valarius Here's a better idea. Make it spin perpetually on its axis, spewing out ships like something out of the exorcist.
[Pro Tip: Don't take this seriously.]
only if we have the quote she says in the movie at this time, said by the off voice in Eve :D ------
Proud Janitor of Tides of Silence
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hydraSlav
Synergy Evolved Daisho Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.12.10 18:56:00 -
[70]
Originally by: RaAshan
Originally by: Ares Lightfeather Hum.
If you turned the station 180¦, wouldn't that make the people that warp from the gates arrive directly at the undock point, therefore creating collisions and preventing people to leave even more than now ?
That would be fun to watch, though.
Congradulations, you are the winner of this thread!
When they warp to station, they will dock instead of being stuck outside
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hydraSlav
Synergy Evolved Daisho Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.12.10 18:57:00 -
[71]
Originally by: OneSock
4, log back in.
And that's where your plan fails, good luck waiting couple of hours
== Above comments are my personal views Oveur >Local shouldn't be a tactical tool, it's for chat
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Teyrala
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2007.12.10 18:59:00 -
[72]
/signed for the OP
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hydraSlav
Synergy Evolved Daisho Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.12.10 19:00:00 -
[73]
Originally by: northwesten here a smarter answer OP DONT GO TO JITA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FFS
nubs
Right, here is a smart idea for you: go put some decent quantity of decryptors or moon materials on a market other than Jita, and then i won't have to go to Jita. Brilliant! Get on it, nub
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hydraSlav
Synergy Evolved Daisho Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.12.10 19:04:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Ironnight Poor lemmings, next time stop and think, geee 950 people in Jita, maybe I should stay the F away for now.
Yes 2+2 really = 4.
Gee, maybe you should contribute to suggestions to make the game better, or stay the F away from people that try
== Above comments are my personal views Oveur >Local shouldn't be a tactical tool, it's for chat
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Ghaelsto Kakram
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Posted - 2007.12.10 19:20:00 -
[75]
Originally by: northwesten here a smarter answer OP DONT GO TO JITA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FFS nubs
Try stop me going into Jita whenever I want to.
wait...
People have been complaining about undocking stations since beta and it still isn't fixed properly and it most probably won't be fixed ever. As if a group of engineers would even consider designing a space station that creates these kind of problems. |
Beowulf Scheafer
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.12.10 19:31:00 -
[76]
Originally by: Ghreymar LaNayeur /signed
theres really no reason for the station to be facing this direction (though i guess it does help suiciders on teh station :P)
in jita, everybody is a victim, even suiciders ^^
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OOOSOOO
Gallente Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2007.12.10 19:34:00 -
[77]
They need to add an option to autopilot settings:
Avoid systems named "Jita"
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Ironnight
Caldari x13
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Posted - 2007.12.10 22:26:00 -
[78]
Originally by: Ghaelsto Kakram
Originally by: northwesten here a smarter answer OP DONT GO TO JITA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FFS nubs
Try stop me going into Jita whenever I want to.
wait...
Well people can live in Jita for all I care, I am just sick of seeing them coming too the forum crying about lag and the stations turning the wrong way, people just dont seem to be able to think for themselfs, make an undocking bookmark, done, problem solved and it only takes 5 minutes.
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Ironnight
Caldari x13
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Posted - 2007.12.10 22:36:00 -
[79]
Originally by: hydraSlav
Originally by: Ironnight Poor lemmings, next time stop and think, geee 950 people in Jita, maybe I should stay the F away for now.
Yes 2+2 really = 4.
Gee, maybe you should contribute to suggestions to make the game better, or stay the F away from people that try
Asking CCP to turn a station 180 degrees is making the game better? God forbid you had to think for yourself, so sorry, it was to much to ask, I can clearly see that now.
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F90OEX
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Posted - 2007.12.10 22:40:00 -
[80]
910+ in local today, if thats not a warning I don't know what is
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LUH 3471
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Posted - 2007.12.10 22:42:00 -
[81]
Edited by: LUH 3471 on 10/12/2007 22:45:05 i demand they replace the current station with a new bigger one which has multiple dockingports and an infinite veldspar roid placed 50km from it so noobs can suck at it to make the whole thhing even more interesting let all stations and stargates in jita from now on have a little doomsday devices which activate themself at random times killing evrything in an radius of 200km
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fuze
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Posted - 2007.12.10 23:50:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Ironnight
Well people can live in Jita for all I care, I am just sick of seeing them coming too the forum crying about lag and the stations turning the wrong way, people just dont seem to be able to think for themselfs, make an undocking bookmark, done, problem solved and it only takes 5 minutes.
Turning the station 180 degrees during downtime only takes 5 minutes. Add it to the next patch if needed and voila. You don't have to be that smart to figure that one out do you?
CCP invests large amounts of resources into improving gameplay and somehow simple changes like these aren't looked at? Its not about some whining babies but people making sense and bring up good arguments for changing stuff in the game. They shouldn't be brushed off as nubs. |
hydraSlav
Synergy Evolved Daisho Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.12.11 00:10:00 -
[83]
Originally by: Ironnight
Asking CCP to turn a station 180 degrees is making the game better? God forbid you had to think for yourself, so sorry, it was to much to ask, I can clearly see that now.
Please argue how making the most heavily loaded station have an easier undock is not making the game better. I'd like to hear 1 intelligent argument against it.
And to everyone that keeps playing the broken violin "make an insta undock": i have one, it's called Planet IV. However when 90% of other users don't know about it, and are bouncing on undock, i can't use it, cause i can't load, period. And no, those 90% of users will not be educated about it, cause they don't read the forums.
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Ademaro Imre
Caldari Eye of God
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Posted - 2007.12.11 07:22:00 -
[84]
Originally by: hydraSlav
Originally by: Ironnight
Asking CCP to turn a station 180 degrees is making the game better? God forbid you had to think for yourself, so sorry, it was to much to ask, I can clearly see that now.
Please argue how making the most heavily loaded station have an easier undock is not making the game better. I'd like to hear 1 intelligent argument against it.
Jita is a custom made problem that CCP made themselves. There used to be several trade hubs, then, CCP got rid of the highways. After the highway nerf, one of the biggest questions of the game becamse, "where will the trade hub be" since it was obvious that items for trade were not goign to be spread distances that were now 4-8x farther apart, one way. Rens could have become the trade hub, but I suspect the majority of players becing Caldari, it ended up at Jita in a region where more player used. If someone didn't like the prices in Jita, its was a quick trip to Rens or wherever. Not anymore. Anyone can argue "go somewhere else to buy," but in all games there will aways be trade hubs. Sometimes, someone needs to sell also, and the only buy orders are in Jita and the only sell orders completed are done in Jita. I have tried selling outside of Jite, in Perimeter, but - buyer still rather buy in Jita so they only have to dock in one station in the region.
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starinpro
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Posted - 2007.12.11 13:13:00 -
[85]
I never use Jita, I trade around Jita and for me, is just a cheap to shop, as a seller there is too much competition in Jita anyway.
I prefer to use systems with 4 or 5 stargates in Empire or close to low sec.
I guess Jita has it's uses but i'm too impatient.
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Raneru
Darwin With Attitude oooh Shiny
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Posted - 2007.12.11 13:20:00 -
[86]
Before you dock in Jita, Zoom all the way out. You will load alot faster when you undock.
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Trina Mador
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.12.11 14:40:00 -
[87]
/Signed
I don't even go to Jita but this seems like a simple thing to do to, at least, improve the time people spend to exit system.
The Jita problem exists for so long and this seems such a simple mesure, that it's really hard to understand why it wasn't done already
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hydraSlav
Synergy Evolved Daisho Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.12.11 16:44:00 -
[88]
Originally by: Raneru Before you dock in Jita, Zoom all the way out. You will load alot faster when you undock.
Thanks for a tip, haven't tried that before
== Above comments are my personal views Oveur >Local shouldn't be a tactical tool, it's for chat
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vitameatavegemin
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Posted - 2007.12.11 17:37:00 -
[89]
Edited by: vitameatavegemin on 11/12/2007 17:38:43 this thread is pure gold.
no, people can't "not go to jita" if they are stuck in an undock blob with no way of exiting the system. also they can't "not go to jita" if they can't even leave the station.
I'm calling that ccp is stupid if they don't take this suggestion.
edit: fknign alt! Jones Maloy here
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Benilopax
Gallente Pulsar Combat Supplies
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Posted - 2007.12.11 17:55:00 -
[90]
Edited by: Benilopax on 11/12/2007 17:57:11
I never have any trouble when in Jita, more importantly I don't go to Jita.
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SiJira
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Posted - 2007.12.11 20:41:00 -
[91]
Originally by: vitameatavegemin Edited by: vitameatavegemin on 11/12/2007 17:38:43 this thread is pure gold.
no, people can't "not go to jita" if they are stuck in an undock blob with no way of exiting the system. also they can't "not go to jita" if they can't even leave the station.
I'm calling that ccp is stupid if they don't take this suggestion.
edit: fknign alt! Jones Maloy here
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Crexa
g guild
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Posted - 2007.12.11 21:02:00 -
[92]
The Jita sun implodes forming a massive black hole....
(time passes)
At the outer edge of the black hole is a ring of purple hazed light, also known as the event horizon.
Existing at this boundry are gravitational singularities. These singularities pulse with the frequency of a beating heart. Flickering on and off with each beat. On, off, on, off.
Each singularity creates a distortion in the gravity well of the jita black hole.
Some say they have seen ghost ships floating in the distortions. Others say these are the lamenting souls of the dead Jitanese.
I say they are the Jovian, come to cleanse the galaxy of unholy places....
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Zakgram
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.12.11 22:06:00 -
[93]
You people can get into jita? Amazing!
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Little Tigerlilly
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Posted - 2007.12.11 22:29:00 -
[94]
Been hearing people ask for this for a long time...
Why not have the option to jump them from the station into one of the surrounding systems for a price? IE you're sitting in the hangar and you choose the Jump Chamber button. Station gives you the choice of the surrounding systems and then jumps you to the point you'd warp to when you leave Jita? (Via the gates) Can charge people 10k or something.
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Anya Sardukar
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Posted - 2007.12.11 22:55:00 -
[95]
Quote: they shouldnt have went there in the first place
I know people like you find this a little hard to understand, but when some people buy a product...they expect it to work properly. Weird, that.
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hydraSlav
Synergy Evolved Daisho Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.12.11 23:30:00 -
[96]
Originally by: Benilopax Edited by: Benilopax on 11/12/2007 17:57:11
I never have any trouble when in Jita, more importantly I don't go to Jita.
Yet another "don't go to Jita". OK, mr smartboy, show me another place where i can buy sufficient quantities at competitive prices of: Dysprosium War Strategon Stolen Formulas Ships Data Interfaces and many other stuff.
Like it or not, some items are only sold in Jita in sufficient numbers and at acceptable competitive prices. Sure, you can find them in some forgotten system, either in singular quantity, or at 25% markup (not competitive), but the main source remains Jita.
== Above comments are my personal views Oveur >Local shouldn't be a tactical tool, it's for chat
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Kweel Nakashyn
Minmatar Aeden Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.12.11 23:33:00 -
[97]
Originally by: Sergeant Spot Edited by: Sergeant Spot on 10/12/2007 00:42:01
On your next trip to Jita 4-4
Go there in a fast ship (MWD interceptor ideally, but any frig that can sustain a MWD will work). If needed, buy your fast ship there.
Undock from 4-4
click the control button to go to max speed.
DO NOT click space for a direction.
Activate MWD
Walk away from computer for at least 20 minutes
Come back to computer (you should be well over 1,000 km from the station....), make a Bookmark and name it "Jita 4-4 Undock"
Use that Bookmark whenever undocking from Jita 4-4.
shhh, whines are funny. 2isk
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hydraSlav
Synergy Evolved Daisho Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.12.12 00:22:00 -
[98]
Originally by: Kweel Nakashyn shhh, whines are funny.
So are people that don't read threads yet reply
== Above comments are my personal views Oveur >Local shouldn't be a tactical tool, it's for chat
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Bon Hedus
Amarr O.E.C Legionnaire Services Ltd.
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Posted - 2007.12.12 00:39:00 -
[99]
Just make anyone who launches from any Jita station instantly jump to a random spot in 0.0 space. Pretty soon Jita will be clear. -------------------------------------- Heavy Lag Spike II belonging to EvE Cluster Node #0815 hits your Connection, wrecking your latency to 998ms |
hydraSlav
Synergy Evolved Daisho Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.12.12 14:39:00 -
[100]
Bump for the morning devs. Give me 1 reason why this is technically not viable
== Above comments are my personal views Oveur >Local shouldn't be a tactical tool, it's for chat
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Dravius Luxor
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Posted - 2007.12.12 15:31:00 -
[101]
Jita will never be fixed until traders have the imagination to conceive that they can create trade hubs wherever they like.
Click "Buy order". The market price is whatever you set it to, and if your price is better - people leave!!!
I know this doesn't help the folks stuck in Jita right now - but maybe in future they'll make alternative arrangements. Going to Jita is entirely unnecessary (see: 'buy order').
Personally I hope Jita doesn't change, because it means all the psycho-traders and metagamers are in one place.
But it won't change until people use their initiative to actually change it themselves.
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hydraSlav
Synergy Evolved Daisho Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.12.20 19:39:00 -
[102]
Work has been hectic, but i am back on the campaign to bump this every day until i get a dev response:
Devs, what's the technical limitation for this simplest fix of all?
== Above comments are my personal views Oveur >Local shouldn't be a tactical tool, it's for chat
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Frug
Zenithal Harvest
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Posted - 2007.12.20 20:22:00 -
[103]
Originally by: Crumplecorn Turn the station. There doesn't appear to be a good reason not to.
This
I love how a guy makes a perfectly reasonable, logical suggestion, and the response of the fanbois on the forums is to troll it.
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Photus
Caldari Roll For Initiative
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Posted - 2007.12.20 20:42:00 -
[104]
Edited by: Photus on 20/12/2007 20:43:08 Here's a better idea!
Jita 4-4 is sort of an economic hub, right?
So, just create a new station type. Call it (ready for this?) "Economic Hub"! Load it with exits, facing every direction! Set ship types to default to a certain exit (freighters pointing to the gate, battleships/battlecruisers somewhere else, frigs/destroyers/cruisers who cares?). Give it neon signs to make it look like a market place. Dancing girls too! And a zoo . . .
Ok, so I get off topic, but the fact is that 4-4 isn't much of an assembly plant anymore. It's the Jita market place. Having a huge shield-thing that we can gt caught on, and a tiny exit that we easily get stuck in isn't working out so great. Amarr stations shoot us out the bottom, so we can align anywhere, and if we're not paying atention then we auto-level out of the way. Minmatar stations shoots us rather far out from the station. Gallente . .. are worse than 4-4 to begin with, so we won't bring them up. It just goes to show you that you shouldn't kneel down in front of the third rail, grab it with both hands, and **** on it from three feet away. |
Bilanto Gatejumper
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.12.20 22:43:00 -
[105]
Originally by: hydraSlav Yet another "don't go to Jita". OK, mr smartboy, show me another place where i can buy sufficient quantities at competitive prices of: Dysprosium War Strategon Stolen Formulas Ships Data Interfaces and many other stuff.
Like it or not, some items are only sold in Jita in sufficient numbers and at acceptable competitive prices. Sure, you can find them in some forgotten system, either in singular quantity, or at 25% markup (not competitive), but the main source remains Jita.
Look in your wallet history and start to contact people to make a deal with them. Once you get a network you don't have to rely on going to Jita. The one that is selling is equally interested in not going there. So you could agree on a price and place where you picked it up. You might even end up saving some dimes becouse its a win-win.
Instead of comming up with a lot of ideas of how to make Jita even more laggy (Yes, I see your logic, but I also see the flaw in it) try to think of how you can make the situation better for your self.
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Bilanto Gatejumper
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.12.20 22:47:00 -
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Originally by: hydraSlav Bump for the morning devs. Give me 1 reason why this is technically not viable
Its not talking about if its viable or not.
You want to solve a problem. You think you have a sollution, but you will end up with nothing gained in a litle while.
Point is: Even if your ide should work it will only make more people flooding the system and then make it back to lagging again.
Remember that its the total amount in Jita thats making the lag, not on station 4-4. And even if people would get faster out of the system it would only just lead to more people going in there once lag getting better.
So: Hush. Stop bumping silly ideas and start thing what you can change in your own way to get rid of the problem.
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VicturusTeSaluto
Metafarmers
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Posted - 2007.12.20 22:48:00 -
[107]
People do not need any more encouragement to be in jita
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Cadela Fria
Amarr Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.12.20 23:01:00 -
[108]
Edited by: Cadela Fria on 20/12/2007 23:01:03
Originally by: hydraSlav Bump for the morning devs. Give me 1 reason why this is technically not viable
You know you really are coming off as an idiot you know that?
I'm not saying you are one, but you're coming off as one..Have you even CONSIDERED, that the 4-4 station was not picked by CCP to be the main trade station. That's right..you know who it was? US! The players! We picked the station in that system to do all the trading in.
But wait! There's more! Guess who picked the system? That's right, WE DID! Oh but that's not everything, guess what? You are utterly moronic if you have any sort of belief that CCP is TRYING to create lag, or keep people in system, or TRYING to make it harder for you. If you do believe this, please hit yourself with a shovel till you stop believing it, kthxbai.
Oh, more?? Why yes! More! I'm sorry to break this to you, but even if the station is going to get turned around, or it's been put on the list of things to do, guess what..It will be EXTREMELY LOW Priority..Probably won't happen for the next year or two, as in all honesty, there are a LOT of much more important things, then the facing of the Jita station. All in all it comes down to a simple question..Is your business important enough for you to endure the pain and suffering of entering Jita at all? No? Stay out then...Yes? Put on your helmet, go for it and hope for the best.
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hydraSlav
Synergy Evolved Daisho Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.12.21 14:18:00 -
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Originally by: Bilanto Gatejumper Point is: Even if your ide should work it will only make more people flooding the system and then make it back to lagging again.
I am not delusional to think that this will solve the lag issue entirely. But if people aren't stuck in the exit clusterbump****, there will be less of them on the undock point, and people won't be having blackscreen on undock
== Above comments are my personal views Oveur >Local shouldn't be a tactical tool, it's for chat
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SiJira
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Posted - 2007.12.23 15:38:00 -
[110]
Originally by: hydraSlav
Originally by: Bilanto Gatejumper Point is: Even if your ide should work it will only make more people flooding the system and then make it back to lagging again.
I am not delusional to think that this will solve the lag issue entirely. But if people aren't stuck in the exit clusterbump****, there will be less of them on the undock point, and people won't be having blackscreen on undock
and so more will come
do you know how many people dont go to jita just because of the heavy traffic?
what do you think happens when legit news spreads that jita has less lag and it is easier to undock and warp out? not to say that any of the lag there is simulated - there are just so many people there and it is in fact the reason that many others dont come Trashed sig, Shark was here |
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hydraSlav
Synergy Evolved Daisho Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.12.23 22:13:00 -
[111]
Edited by: hydraSlav on 23/12/2007 22:13:14
Originally by: SiJira do you know how many people dont go to jita just because of the heavy traffic?
what do you think happens when legit news spreads that jita has less lag and it is easier to undock and warp out?
They will come, and they will leave, without being stuck
== Above comments are my personal views Oveur >Local shouldn't be a tactical tool, it's for chat
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Vandervecken Smith
MMK Design and Logistic
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Posted - 2007.12.23 22:47:00 -
[112]
There's a simple in game justification. "To ease undocking chaos, the Caldari Navy today organised a fleet of tugboats to turn Jita 180 degrees, for everyone's convenience. This will be paid for by a 1% increase in sales tax for the next month."
Seriously, do it.
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Niding
Polaris Project Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.24 07:16:00 -
[113]
I read the first and last page of this thread...
And as has been said by others....Choose a different system as your tradehub. As with everything, at first it wont be able to compete, but ive found Amarr to be sufficient for 99% of what I need, buying and selling.
And its improving all the time.
At one point ppl just have to come to grips with the fact that the system just cant handle more traffic and find secondary hubs.
The lag and desyncs in fleetfights should have higher priority. POS errors that has consequenses during a fleetbattle should be fixed.
etc etc...turning jita 4-4 180 degrees wont stop the system to lag/be unstable.
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Dred'Pirate Jesus
Amarr Ministry of War
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Posted - 2007.12.24 07:27:00 -
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Originally by: Crumplecorn Turn the station. There doesn't appear to be a good reason not to.
Turning the station to allow easy warp to gates would unduly nerf suicide gankers/war target hunters and therefore is not a viable option..
Originally by: David Hackworth ò If you find yourself in a fair fight, you didn't plan your mission properly.
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