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TiberiaBravus
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Posted - 2007.12.13 23:05:00 -
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Originally by: Chelone Last I checked, drones didn't fire torpedoes...
Now they do! they have those nice looking Dominix bs's lonching torpedos and missles!
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jetfighter
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Posted - 2007.12.14 11:40:00 -
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Edited by: jetfighter on 14/12/2007 11:41:35

I only like solo. now ccp made it a gan game. 
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Kelbesque Crystalis
Minmatar Eve University
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Posted - 2007.12.17 05:54:00 -
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Originally by: AncientGuardian
and then, a little while ago, i was running "The Assault" level 4 Previously, i was able to Solo this... but after the reinforments came, i found myself taking about 600+ dps, and 5 or 6 frigs warp scrambling me.
i had standard fitting (2 kin hardners, 2 therm hardners, LAR, 1600m Rolled Tun., nothing needed other than that for serpentis). Cap wasn't a problem, i had plenty of CAP for a good while. but my armor just went bye bye. and since i was getting scramed by about 5 frigs, at which point my drones couldn't take care of because of other agro that destoryed them faster than i could count how many ships where attacking...
before trinity, i was able to solo this. it wasn't the easiest of mission, but i was soloable. drones then would eat frigs like pie. now, frigs eat my drones like a shrimp dinner.
I seriously hope im not the only one noticing some difficulty increase. oh well.
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SheriffFruitfly
Caldari Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2007.12.17 07:17:00 -
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I just got smoked in Enemies Abound 5 - lol.
Ah well - gave me a chance to upgrade from plain raven to cnr.
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Derek Sigres
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Posted - 2007.12.17 15:20:00 -
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I just assumed I was having another bout of extreme ******ation that from time to time strikes me down to a pauper in Eve. I lost a Raven on a level 4, though admittedly it was because I decided to drop my smartbombs for a few rail guns to help kill the BS's quicker and couldn't pop the warp jamming frigs quick enough. I lost a semi-active shield boosted drake on a level 3 when previously I had never even gotten below 70% on a level 3 mission. Once again, this was due to error on my part since I did not have the foresight to align in advance, though this was certainly compounded by my client crashing twice in the encounter. (The drake warped out and I logged in to find it warping back with the hull down to ~50%, my next attempt to warp also netted me a client crash followed by an insurance payment that only covers about 30% of my Drake's worth)
Ah well, live and learn I guess. Lucky this time I actually have a way to claw my way back to adequacy in Eve. Last time I was left with an Osprey and an Ibis.
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Xaen
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.12.17 21:06:00 -
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Originally by: D0neMan Was using Domi, sheild tanking
WTF?
Originally by: D0neMan mish
That explains it. -- Support fixing the EVE UI | Suggest Jita fixes
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Xaen
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.12.17 21:17:00 -
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Originally by: Herkannon On the other hand Guristas Extravaganza lev 4 bonus stage is simply saying a piece of ****... Few bses, no scram and web frigs... and no faction loot. You really now dont need CNR to complete it. Normal raven is more than enough to complete it after trinity.
Drake could do it before. So could the Raven....wtf? -- Support fixing the EVE UI | Suggest Jita fixes
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Manfred Rickenbocker
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Posted - 2007.12.17 22:24:00 -
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Ive noticed a mission difficulty increase as well. Ive been running agent missions that tend to put me up against the Angels, and those things are really kicking my Domi's arse now. I spent 4 hours (yes, FOUR) on one mission and almost missed the bonus time. Lots of warping out. Ive got really good tanking skills, and use a double LAR II setup that doesnt need to worry about cap. The Angel BSes are definitely firing torps (you can float over them incoming on the display now) and they are hitting from 50km away for the NEW torp damage. Also, the short range ships which generally use cruise missiles are using more autocannons with a much faster (visually) rate of fire. Its too hard to get the damage reports from the system log sometimes due to it whizzing by so quickly. ------------------------ Exploration: A discipline for those who have a lot of time, don't want to put in a lot of effort, and have a high tolerance for mental anguish. |

Kelbesque Crystalis
Minmatar Eve University
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Posted - 2007.12.18 02:46:00 -
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Originally by: Manfred Rickenbocker Ive noticed a mission difficulty increase as well. Ive been running agent missions that tend to put me up against the Angels, and those things are really kicking my Domi's arse now. I spent 4 hours (yes, FOUR) on one mission and almost missed the bonus time. Lots of warping out. Ive got really good tanking skills, and use a double LAR II setup that doesnt need to worry about cap. The Angel BSes are definitely firing torps (you can float over them incoming on the display now) and they are hitting from 50km away for the NEW torp damage. Also, the short range ships which generally use cruise missiles are using more autocannons with a much faster (visually) rate of fire. Its too hard to get the damage reports from the system log sometimes due to it whizzing by so quickly.
Funny, I run 90% of my missions vs Angels and haven't noticed a difference. It's only for The Assult vs Serpentis that I noticed a change.
All of the projectile visuals have changed, and most Angels used AC's before. It was just not as visually obvious when they were doing as such.
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Steyr Daghan
thx for all the fish Minuit.
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Posted - 2007.12.18 14:12:00 -
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Originally by: jetfighter Edited by: jetfighter on 14/12/2007 11:41:35

I only like solo. now ccp made it a gan game. 
Um, why? I've run lvl 4s after trinity and while there are differences (mainly that i'm now stuck with cruises while the rats happily shoot torps at me from 80 km) but I have yet to find one I can't do solo. In a normal Raven i should add. Maybe there is the odd mission that can't be soloed in a t1 bs, but it's certainly not correct to say you can't solo lvl 4s anymore.
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Medi'ka
Caldari Band Of The Red Hand
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Posted - 2007.12.26 20:19:00 -
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Edited by: Medi''ka on 26/12/2007 20:19:41
Originally by: Chelone Edited by: Chelone on 12/12/2007 22:38:46 Throw my wrecked Abaddon onto the pile.
Yeah you can add my Raven to the pile also. LVL 3 New Frontiers 5 of 7 took out my Raven and Drake. Had to basicly fail the mission line to salvage wrecks and retrive loot.
I've been running lvl 3's with little to no worry for the last 3 months, since trinity things are more difficult. Active Tanks just not getting it done, to many energy neuts.
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Demor Hearst
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Posted - 2007.12.26 21:21:00 -
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Originally by: Firebyrd I dont remember any Level 3s with warp scramblers before, and i ran them for 6 months straight this past summer, but Part 5 of 7 in the"New Frontiers" also Part 4 have Warp Jammers, Part 5 also has 6-8 Energy Neutralizer Towers, and they hit at over 55 km away
In level III mission "Pirate Invasion", in the 3rd area (that is, the area after the second accel. gate) there are NPC web scramblers and targeting nullifers. You cannot target, you cannot warp.
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Qui Shon
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Posted - 2007.12.27 08:26:00 -
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Okay I must be dense, but after some 150K lp post trinity, I only noticed new triggers, nothing was harder in L4's. Not the ones I've gotten at least.
I helped out this one guy in the L3 drone mission with neut towers, and admittedly I did have to warp my undertanked domi out. That was because I had fit an EM hard instead of an EX one by mistake. Also, after popping two neut towers and realizing that spawned quite a few drones I *stopped popping the towers* (DUH) until I/we had taken care of most of the rat drones. Ironically, I haven't had to warp out from L4's in a long while.
Tankfully, the guy I was helping had taken out the scrambling rats when I had the wrong hardener fitted . Cheers to him.
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Adrianna Jones
Gallente Universal System Acquisitions
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Posted - 2007.12.27 11:35:00 -
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Originally by: Qui Shon Okay I must be dense, but after some 150K lp post trinity, I only noticed new triggers, nothing was harder in L4's. Not the ones I've gotten at least.
I helped out this one guy in the L3 drone mission with neut towers, and admittedly I did have to warp my undertanked domi out. That was because I had fit an EM hard instead of an EX one by mistake. Also, after popping two neut towers and realizing that spawned quite a few drones I *stopped popping the towers* (DUH) until I/we had taken care of most of the rat drones. Ironically, I haven't had to warp out from L4's in a long while.
Tankfully, the guy I was helping had taken out the scrambling rats when I had the wrong hardener fitted . Cheers to him.
Harder? no. Longer HELL YES.
Mordus Headhunters, they added a gate or was i just drunk? Maybe other mission that broke my tank... Those drone Domi BSes that HURT LIKE HELL lol.
I did some 10 part l3, the last gate had 8 or so BSes you had to take out a tower and warp, i've done lots of l4, but ive never seen my tank break in a l3, and that fast lol.
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Orion Shurtak
Mission Runners United
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Posted - 2007.12.27 11:49:00 -
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I haven't noticed a change to any of the level 4's being harder. I'm still doing them all in a nighthawk. Some different more difficult level 4's would be nice. -------------------------------------------------- Mission Runners United
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Mr Toril
The Elear FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2007.12.27 16:15:00 -
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I have done a lot of lvl 4 missions since trinity I have not noticed any change. But there has been a big change in what missions I get. I got loads and loads of more missions aganist amarr/caldari and drones. Its almost insane how many of those missions I get. Today I got 6 missions so far, the blockade(serpentis), 2 infltrited outpost, 1 infiltrated ruins and 1 smuggler interception Thats 4 drones, 1 serpentis and 1 angels. It has been loking like that since patch. I have not seen angel extravanganz sinc patch and some other pretty common ones like gone berserk and masssive attack are gone to. But I have not done any lvl 1,2 or 3 missions.
Seems like ccp wants to remove mission bounties.
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faxtarious
Kai-Zen inc.
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Posted - 2007.12.28 03:14:00 -
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Pot and kettle lvl 4
that mission is a joke cauz there are about a dousen "Amarr" fighter doing a good 200-300 dmg on my heavy tanked BS...
I used to solo alot of lvl 4's in my cane...but those fighters melted it in a matter of seconds...
I even asked a couple of local mission runners for help..But the mission was impossible even with a group of 3 heavy tanked BSs... and believe me when I say that the average resit for both EM and thermal on all ships was 70%-80%
and we were still getting 200-300 hit from them... One of the pilots that borught his pvp tank (active tank btw) got 600 dmg on the first shot they had at him..then it went down to 200 when they reach his armor.
anyway..i,m not complaining... Juts saying ....mission runners can,t be called carebears anymore with hits like that
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Rhys Onasi
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Posted - 2007.12.28 03:59:00 -
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Huh. I thought they were easier. Or maybe I just got better. Oh well. 
But I heard that AE4 got taken out of game for now due to being broken (100% faction loot drop). ANd I got Massive Attack the other day so I know it's in game still.
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KISOGOKU
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Posted - 2007.12.28 04:20:00 -
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Rhys Onasi explaned Angel extravaganza was broken and got taken out of game but others your luck i think.Im in a circle massive attack/the score/smuggler interception/damsel/silence the informant mostly when my agent offered assault or any other mission i feel lucky
Originally by: Mr Toril I have not seen angel extravanganz sinc patch and some other pretty common ones like gone berserk and masssive attack are gone to. But I have not done any lvl 1,2 or 3 missions.
Seems like ccp wants to remove mission bounties.
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Sneer Quen
Seven. Enuma Elish.
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Posted - 2007.12.28 10:52:00 -
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there was no balance in speed of making wealth between mission running and 0.0 activity there must be some incentive for people to move out of empire .... now it seems i start seeing it
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Galk
Gallente Autumn Tactics All the things she said
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Posted - 2007.12.28 14:19:00 -
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Originally by: Sneer Quen there was no balance in speed of making wealth between mission running and 0.0 activity there must be some incentive for people to move out of empire .... now it seems i start seeing it
Not realy sure how you came to that conclussion, as the more experienced in the thread have allready noted, nothings realy changed in reguards to earning ability.
Something i can confirm myself having been struck down with flu, logged eve and ran missions last night and today for something to do... iv'e made no less then i ever did before, in fact im making more with the extra abilities the marauder is bringing to the table.... ballpark figure including everything, something like 350-400 million for a couple of plays last night and this morning... the constant salvage and rising mineral piles are making the difference... and truth be told, not exactly the greatest mission drops either
Sure though, the poor mission streaks where you earn little or nothing for hours on end are still around, but thats been the case for a while, you just have to learn to deal with those from a different angle of the unconventional ______
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Sneer Quen
Seven. Enuma Elish.
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Posted - 2007.12.28 15:20:00 -
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so if it is not confirmed i'm sad as last logistics changes / carriers / + marauders tend to makes things empire heavy i'm surprised
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Ottman
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Posted - 2007.12.29 00:54:00 -
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well for level 4 missions if you want to solo them , you need a bs with armor repair bonus or at least with resistance bonus per bs level, dual armor repairer setup is definetly needed, drones for the scram frigs or smartbombs, named t1 guns at minimum, t2 weapons of course better. and think about rigs to ensure your tank will hold on long time, you cant count on cap boosters during missions, using them and be scrammed = ship lost, so your fitting and rigging should lead into self sufficent tank that can do the job. just my two cents and my personal experience ^^
MfG ottman
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Jeremiaz
Gallente Nautilus Industries
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Posted - 2007.12.29 11:20:00 -
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As a seasoned Lvl4 mission runner I can honestly say I've seen no difference in the difficulty of any of the missions at all since Trinity. I'm getting through them at exactly the same speed as before and haven't encountered any additional dps or changes to rof. Maybe I've just been lucky so far! |
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