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Belshazzur Nephilim
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Posted - 2004.03.12 06:02:00 -
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I haven't seen a post on this before, but does anyone know the specs on the new Elite Cruisers that are currently in development and the skills required for each? Additionally, when is the deployment expected? Thanks.
Elite Cruisers include: Point Defense Cruiser, Patrol Cruiser, Support Cruiser, Battlecruiser
Here is path to the article: http://myeve.eve-online.com/updates/indevelopment.asp.
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Belshazzur Nephilim
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Gariuys
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Posted - 2004.03.12 06:26:00 -
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They're in development, so IOW they haven't decided on anything about em yet other then that they want 4 different types of elite cruisers.
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S'Jet
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Posted - 2004.03.12 06:42:00 -
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to fly the new cruisers you will need a new skill which is the battlecruiser skill.
Spaceship commande skill at level 4
cruiser skill at level 5
Battlecruiser skill
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Elithiomel
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Posted - 2004.03.12 07:34:00 -
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Edited by: Elithiomel on 12/03/2004 14:07:32
Gallente
Clotho - exequror - Duvolle Labs - support cruiser
Oneiros - exequror - Roden Shipyards - support cruiser
Arazu - celestis - Creodron - point defense
Lachesis - celestis - Duvolle Labs - point defense
Phobos - thorax - Roden Shipyards - battlecruiser
Ishtar - thorax - Creodron - battlecruiser
Deimos - vexor - Roden Shipyards - patrol cruiser
Atropos - vexor - Duvolle Labs - patrol cruiser
Minmatar
Broadsword - rupture - Core Complexions - battlecruiser
Muninn - rupture - Boundless Creation - battlecruiser
Nomad - bellicose - Thukker Mix - Point Defense
Huginn - bellicose - Boundless Creation - point defense
Glaive - stabber - Core Complexion - patrol cruiser
Vagabond - stabber - Thukker Mix - patrol cruiser
Scimitar - scythe - Core Complexion - Support cruiser
______ - scythe
Caldari
Obsidian - moa - Kaalakiota - battlecruiser
Eagle - moa - Ishukone - battlecruiser
Vulture - caracal - Ishukone - patrol cruiser
Cerebus - caracal - Lai Dai - patrol cruiser
Falcon - blackbird - Ishukone - point defense
Wyvern - blackbird - Lai Dai - point defense
Basilisk - osprey - Lai Dai - support cruiser
Nocturne - osprey - Kaalakiota - support cruiser
Amarr
Zealot - maller - Viziam - battecruiser
Sacrelige - maller - Khanid Innovations - battlecruiser
Devoter - maller - Carthum - battlecruiser
Infidel - omen - Khanid Innovations - patrol cruiser
______ - omen
Heretic - arbitrater - Khanid Innovations - point defense
Pilgrim - arbitrator - Viziam -point defense
Guardian - auguror - Carthum - support cruiser
Sanctity - auguror - Viziam - support cruiser
These are all the elite cruisers i have found so far. All the stats are the same so it is just placeholder data atm.
Required skills will be Battlecruisers, Interdictors, Destroyers, Carriers I think. But no idea on what the prereqs for these skills are. I am thinking that Cruiser 5 will probably be among them.
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lash
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Posted - 2004.03.12 12:31:00 -
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mmm beefed up vexor... *passes out*
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Ruffles
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Posted - 2004.03.12 13:09:00 -
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Edited by: Ruffles on 12/03/2004 13:10:42
It doesn't matter how many "Elite" ships they introduce, if they don't fix the reasons there are issues between the current ships in the games mechanics we will all still have the same problems, but at a higher price.
If they are doing elite cruisers, you can be pretty sure all the top end pvp'rs will be waiting for is the next Elite battleships.
Elite battleships will maul both cruisers and frigates.
I would save your skill points until you hear about those to be perfectly honest. Cruisers are very low on the food chain presently.
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Gariuys
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Posted - 2004.03.12 13:18:00 -
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There are those that don't fly ships just to rock at pvp. I spent most of my time in a thorax, cruisers are way more fun then BSs and a lot less frantic then frigates. And cruiser lvl 5 was on the list anyway, it'll just be worth a lot more now, then 5% damage :D
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Douro
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Posted - 2004.03.12 13:42:00 -
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Cruiser level 5 is suddenly looking a lot more attractive!
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drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2004.03.12 14:14:00 -
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Cruiser 5 will be a must have
spaceship command 5 might be worth considering
one other skill at level 5 depending on cruiser type
and the battlecruiser skill, I'd guess (although this may fit in the above category)
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John McCreedy
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Posted - 2004.03.12 14:45:00 -
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Edited by: John McCreedy on 12/03/2004 14:48:27
Elithiomel, where did you find that information please? - Never mind, I've found them on Eve-DB.
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Zzazzt
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Posted - 2004.03.13 03:21:00 -
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Cruisers are very low on the food chain presently.
Um - which game are you playing? Not the same one as the rest of us, obviously...
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Isiana
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Posted - 2004.03.13 09:22:00 -
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Cruisers are very low on the food chain presently.
Um - which game are you playing? Not the same one as the rest of us, obviously...
In pvp thats very true, Frigates have the speed to evade much damage, cruisers do not, and they dont have the strenght to withstand a bs bombardment either
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Ertai Vodalion
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Posted - 2004.03.13 11:27:00 -
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May I preorder Ishtar & Atropos ?
I really love my vexor & Thorax - and I will for sure go for the elite versions !
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Karx Galaxus
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Posted - 2004.03.13 16:05:00 -
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Love the patrol cruiser idea. Now all I have to do is get cruiser lvl 0 to cruiser lvl 5. 
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Gariuys
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Posted - 2004.03.13 16:21:00 -
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see you in well over a month then.
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Brother Victae
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Posted - 2004.03.13 19:15:00 -
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Oh yes please, Ill have a couple of them 
These look like they could make cruisers a valuable asset in PvP fleet engagements(I should say more valuable, as I still feel cruisers have their uses), as long as CCP keep elite battleships out of the equation for a while.
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Atez
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Posted - 2004.03.13 20:12:00 -
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whats gonna really p1ss me off is when ccp do release the next batch of elite frigs and elite cruisers and my research agent decides its time for me to get a blueprint and she gives me an interceptor one... 
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Baun
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Posted - 2004.03.13 21:28:00 -
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Edited by: Ruffles on 12/03/2004 13:10:42
It doesn't matter how many "Elite" ships they introduce, if they don't fix the reasons there are issues between the current ships in the games mechanics we will all still have the same problems, but at a higher price.
If they are doing elite cruisers, you can be pretty sure all the top end pvp'rs will be waiting for is the next Elite battleships.
Elite battleships will maul both cruisers and frigates.
I would save your skill points until you hear about those to be perfectly honest. Cruisers are very low on the food chain presently.
My thoughts exactly. The introduction of these ships will accomplish nothing if they don't serve to really close the gap between the classes, even if they do so only when used in particular roles.
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Belshazzur Nephilim
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Posted - 2004.03.13 23:00:00 -
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Wow, thanks for all of the great info everyone, but now on to specifics. No one has yet to identity what theyll L K like (dont know if CCP has released that yet) or how each could function in solo and group roles.
Any comments on these aspects?
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Gariuys
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Posted - 2004.03.13 23:09:00 -
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They're in development, so IOW they haven't decided on anything about em yet other then that they want 4 different types of elite cruisers.
Yes I did, give it a rest, it'll be months before you'll see em
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Synapse
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Posted - 2004.03.14 00:24:00 -
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these elite cruisers will probs cost about 25 million if you consider how much the crappy interceptors cost compared to their base ship.
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Interferon
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Posted - 2004.03.14 06:52:00 -
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Synapse, you got a damn fine signature :)
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Macca
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Posted - 2004.03.14 11:34:00 -
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Remember how much Miner 2's where when they entered the game? Compare that price now.
Interceptors are only this price now because I haven't seen a single bp on the market for them. Once corp's start getting their hands on them the price will drop.
I'm really looking forward to the Elite Cruisers. Time to start improving my cruiser skills once again.
PS I doubt they will ever introduce Elite Battleships into the game, they are powerful enough as they are now thank you very much. Plus they will destroy the economy.
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Elithiomel
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Posted - 2004.03.14 13:22:00 -
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Interceptors will probably stay this price unless bp's for tech 2 components are released.
And you will not see tech 2 bp's on the market. They are ONLY available from agents.
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Belshazzur Nephilim
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Posted - 2004.03.14 16:02:00 -
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these elite cruisers will probs cost about 25 million if you consider how much the crappy interceptors cost compared to their base ship.
Whatever their initial price is, I hope they are well worh the investment of capital and additional training time. Seems to me that once they do make it into the game, their price will skyrocket like the inteceptors did. So, Id say that their price will surpass the 25M price in the first few days/weeks of implementation.
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Blazyon
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Posted - 2004.03.14 16:13:00 -
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I think it costs like 1.5mil to make an interceptor if u buy all the components, so I don't see their price dropping much below that unless the components themselves become more common.
Seeing as it costs about 30x more to build a cruiser, I'd bet it would cost like 20-30mil just to make it, without any profit.. so you do the math heh...
Mind you, the above is based on estimates of the current system, with no actual knowledge of what is to come :)
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Gariuys
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Posted - 2004.03.14 18:03:00 -
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Hmm why is everyone acting like 25mil for a cruiser is shocking? I got more then that fitted in modules on my rax, so really.
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Hellena
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Posted - 2004.03.14 22:27:00 -
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good thing ive had space command at lv 5 for months now ( why i dont know ) but it looks like it will come in handy finaly! just need to spend that month on getting crusier 5 i love waiting 
ive see the specs on the broadsword...more of everything has been added..including the price. but dang..techII maller *drools* ohmy i need a shower now.
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Hellena
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Posted - 2004.03.14 22:31:00 -
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Hmm why is everyone acting like 25mil for a cruiser is shocking? I got more then that fitted in modules on my rax, so really.
i know what you mean. some of the fittings on my ships are worth 2-3x the value of the ship.
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Jin'Bing Ju
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Posted - 2004.03.14 22:55:00 -
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Cruisers are very low on the food chain presently.
Um - which game are you playing? Not the same one as the rest of us, obviously...
In pvp thats very true, Frigates have the speed to evade much damage, cruisers do not, and they dont have the strenght to withstand a bs bombardment either
As it should be. Lets not forget that the worst bs is still time 10x the cost of the best cruiser. This means that for every battleship purschased you could have bought 10-15 MOA's! The real strenght of the cruiser is in its cost effectiveness. 10 MOA's can take down one bs easy.
Given the expense of a bs, three or even four cruisers should NEVER be able to withstand a bs, otherwise it would not be a battleship but an big waste of money.
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