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Riedle
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Posted - 2012.02.13 15:57:00 -
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2bhammered wrote:Riedle wrote:Quote: sorry but, really? You really believe what you just said?? (to make it clear, I feel same way about networks like ABC and MSNBC, CNN, BBC etc.) Yes, really. I know it's not popular with the "in crowd" these days, but some times I like tuning into opinion pieces about politics and one of the stops on my dial is fox news. I know, I know - you and others will call or infer that I am a hick/redneck/ obviously stupid / not right in the head etc etc but thatGÇÖs ok. I donGÇÖt need to be in the GÇÿin crowdGÇÖ and if my opinion on wanting to watch opinion shows on fox news featuring great opinion people like Charles Krauthammer then I couldnGÇÖt really care less so have at it.  No I wont call you a hick or redneck. I would call it being uninformed and I strongly believe it is a mistake to get their news from those big networks, not just FOX NEWS. Same goes for the big papers and other media. Of course best solution is to always read summary of the news then get the spin from both left right and middle of the political spectrum to make a well informed opinion. PS: I even watch it sometimes, I just make sure to always watch with a skeptical mind and never take their word for it.
So I should take your word for it instead? lol
You are the one parroting the tired, lame line that Fox News is LOL etc etc..
Well a couple of things: Newsflash - Everything is biased. All media, all newswires etc etc. bias is inescapable to the human condition.
Now Agenda, that is something we can talk about.
However, the very fact that I am unafraid to speak my mind about how I don't mind fox news in a thread about people who like to feel superior to others by demeaning a news and opinion outlet that they have deemed inferior should tell you all you need to know about how well informed and unafraid to counter the tide of herd thinking.
So maybe I am not the one who is in need of 're-education' comrade? Perhaps if you and others were really concerned about independant thinking you would be on the OP and others for saying very openly that some opinion/news should be censored. Someone truly interested in skepticism would be able to spot the dangerous thinking in people purporting to be looking out for the best interests of others. It's always the one's who act and feel superior to others that think they know best and that is ALWAYS the path to tyranny - no matter if it is on the left or the right.
Something worth thinking about anyways. |

Riedle
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Posted - 2012.02.13 15:58:00 -
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Bootleg Jack wrote:Riedle wrote:Bootleg Jack wrote:On FOX radio in South Dakota they convinced the listeners that if Obama Care happened there would be a Fed Inspector in every doctors office.
People really belive that ****, that is why we need to put FOX on parental control, to protect the gullible and the naive. You sure seem to know a lot about Fox News for someone who doesn't watch it. lol I unfortunatly have a family member who does. There needs to be a 12 step program for news junkies
I see.. So you are forced to watch it?
let me guess, you are a young adult living at home and dear old Dad likes to watch?
Lol GÇô I get that right? |

baltec1
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Posted - 2012.02.13 16:00:00 -
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2bhammered wrote: sorry but, really? You really believe what you just said?? (to make it clear, I feel same way about networks like ABC and MSNBC, CNN, BBC etc.)
BBC is most likely the most trustworthy news on the planet.
American media is like the newspapers over here. Opinionated, full of lies and never let you see all the facts. American media also suffers from not telling you about the world. ABC world news has one or two stories from outside the US, one night they didnt have anything at all! |

Riedle
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Posted - 2012.02.13 16:03:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:2bhammered wrote: sorry but, really? You really believe what you just said?? (to make it clear, I feel same way about networks like ABC and MSNBC, CNN, BBC etc.) BBC is most likely the most trustworthy news on the planet. American media is like the newspapers over here. Opinionated, full of lies and never let you see all the facts. American media also suffers from not telling you about the world. ABC world news has one or two stories from outside the US, one night they didnt have anything at all!
I find it odd that a person from the UK is counting how many news stories a news organization from another country is doing about international news.
Kind of a weird hang-up wouldnGÇÖt you agree?
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baltec1
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Posted - 2012.02.13 16:15:00 -
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Riedle wrote:
I find it odd that a person from the UK is counting how many news stories a news organization from another country is doing about international news.
Kind of a weird hang-up wouldnGÇÖt you agree?
Used the have BBC news 24 running in the reception. At 00:30 they would play ABC world news to "get the view of the Americans". Given that it was more interesting to listen to that rather than the wering of the CCTV screen I would listen in. Would have thought the world news would have news about the world outside of the US but I guess not |

2bhammered
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.02.13 16:18:00 -
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Riedle wrote:2bhammered wrote:Riedle wrote:Quote: sorry but, really? You really believe what you just said?? (to make it clear, I feel same way about networks like ABC and MSNBC, CNN, BBC etc.) Yes, really. I know it's not popular with the "in crowd" these days, but some times I like tuning into opinion pieces about politics and one of the stops on my dial is fox news. I know, I know - you and others will call or infer that I am a hick/redneck/ obviously stupid / not right in the head etc etc but thatGÇÖs ok. I donGÇÖt need to be in the GÇÿin crowdGÇÖ and if my opinion on wanting to watch opinion shows on fox news featuring great opinion people like Charles Krauthammer then I couldnGÇÖt really care less so have at it.  No I wont call you a hick or redneck. I would call it being uninformed and I strongly believe it is a mistake to get their news from those big networks, not just FOX NEWS. Same goes for the big papers and other media. Of course best solution is to always read summary of the news then get the spin from both left right and middle of the political spectrum to make a well informed opinion. PS: I even watch it sometimes, I just make sure to always watch with a skeptical mind and never take their word for it. So I should take your word for it instead? lol You are the one parroting the tired, lame line that Fox News is LOL etc etc.. Well a couple of things: Newsflash - Everything is biased. All media, all newswires etc etc. bias is inescapable to the human condition. Now Agenda, that is something we can talk about. However, the very fact that I am unafraid to speak my mind about how I don't mind fox news in a thread about people who like to feel superior to others by demeaning a news and opinion outlet that they have deemed inferior should tell you all you need to know about how well informed and unafraid to counter the tide of herd thinking. So maybe I am not the one who is in need of 're-education' comrade? Perhaps if you and others were really concerned about independant thinking you would be on the OP and others for saying very openly that some opinion/news should be censored. Someone truly interested in skepticism would be able to spot the dangerous thinking in people purporting to be looking out for the best interests of others. It's always the one's who act and feel superior to others that think they know best and that is ALWAYS the path to tyranny - no matter if it is on the left or the right. Something worth thinking about anyways.
Are you trying to be a smart ***?
Fact is all major news networks, fox news several times, have been caught for even fabricating news or purposefully changing and spinning its meaning.
So what I basically say is trust no one and you parrot by asking why you should trust me? If you understood what I said you would not need to question my credibility now would you?
I am a skeptic, but Fox News and Glen beck people breed cynicism and they have an agenda which is obvious just as MSNBC has.
Having Fox News as only source for politics and world events is bad, plain and simple, even for something as easy as reporting a bulletin. |

2bhammered
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.02.13 16:47:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:2bhammered wrote: sorry but, really? You really believe what you just said?? (to make it clear, I feel same way about networks like ABC and MSNBC, CNN, BBC etc.) BBC is most likely the most trustworthy news on the planet. American media is like the newspapers over here. Opinionated, full of lies and never let you see all the facts. American media also suffers from not telling you about the world. ABC world news has one or two stories from outside the US, one night they didnt have anything at all!
I have seen some terrible bias by BBC over the years. I am sure if you google you can find a lot of stuff, not as bad as Fox News but not best by any means, perhaps, but not great and I am also skeptical watching their news.
ABC news is pretty damn bad from what I have seen I have read some good papers, forgot their names though, no, not the new york times |

Riedle
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Posted - 2012.02.13 19:00:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Riedle wrote:
I find it odd that a person from the UK is counting how many news stories a news organization from another country is doing about international news.
Kind of a weird hang-up wouldnGÇÖt you agree?
Used the have BBC news 24 running in the reception. At 00:30 they would play ABC world news to "get the view of the Americans". Given that it was more interesting to listen to that rather than the wering of the CCTV screen I would listen in. Would have thought the world news would have news about the world outside of the US but I guess not 
Ok, thatGÇÖs a good explanation that makes it less weird but you must admit, it is a pretty limited sample size
:) |

Riedle
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Posted - 2012.02.13 19:05:00 -
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Quote:Fact is all major news networks, fox news several times, have been caught for even fabricating news or purposefully changing and spinning its meaning.
And this surprises you? That is the shocking to me. "News organization makes mistake - more at 11!" lol
"News organization sipjns story - more at 11!" hahaha
Quote:So what I basically say is trust no one and you parrot by asking why you should trust me?  If you understood what I said you would not need to question my credibility now would you?
You are telling me to not trust anyone - when exactly did I say I trust anyone? lol. Stop inferring who I am or what viewpoints I have by the mere fact I am not ashamed of watching fox news and then maybe you will get it.
Quote:I am a skeptic, but Fox News and Glen beck people breed cynicism and they have an agenda which is obvious just as MSNBC has .
fascinating. Look, you are free to like or not like whatever you want to watch. I couldn't care less to be honest. My point is why do you people who hate fox news so much hate the fact that it is a very popular medium?
Quote:Having Fox News as only source for politics and world events is bad, plain and simple, even for something as easy as reporting a bulletin.
Well thanks for clearing that non-existent problem up. lol |

baltec1
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Posted - 2012.02.13 21:03:00 -
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Riedle wrote:
Ok, thatGÇÖs a good explanation that makes it less weird but you must admit, it is a pretty limited sample size
:)
Granted its only ABC I have seen (aside from some angry guy on FOX who shouts at his guests and boots them off his show if they start winning). Still I know a good few Americans and they all agree the US news has very little news from outside of their borders.
Guess its different over here in the UK what with the BBC being founded in the time of Empire. |

Selinate
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Posted - 2012.02.14 01:56:00 -
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I typically watch MSNBC or *sometimes* CNN. I have a brain, so I know when the liberal crap is coming and when to stop listening, but aside from the occasional blatant support for democrats regardless of the issue, they at least have some good information and their show hosts make some good points.
I've watched FOX a few times, but I've always had to turn it off because I just end up not listening to it at all for the same reason as above except for conservative crap. No point in watching a network like that. They're much worse in their political bullshitting than any other network I've watched.... |

Surfin's PlunderBunny
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Posted - 2012.02.14 02:07:00 -
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I get my news from The Daily Show and The Colbert Report  |

Bootleg Jack
Potters Field
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Posted - 2012.02.14 04:23:00 -
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Riedle wrote:Bootleg Jack wrote:Riedle wrote:Bootleg Jack wrote:On FOX radio in South Dakota they convinced the listeners that if Obama Care happened there would be a Fed Inspector in every doctors office.
People really belive that ****, that is why we need to put FOX on parental control, to protect the gullible and the naive. You sure seem to know a lot about Fox News for someone who doesn't watch it. lol I unfortunatly have a family member who does. There needs to be a 12 step program for news junkies I see.. So you are forced to watch it? let me guess, you are a young adult living at home and dear old Dad likes to watch? Lol GÇô I get that right?
No, you didn't.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
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Posted - 2012.02.14 20:09:00 -
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The last thing said on the last good show on FOX
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baltec1
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Posted - 2012.02.14 20:27:00 -
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Thats a good show |

THE L0CK
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Posted - 2012.02.14 21:07:00 -
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Look at the lot of you lambs. Got us a bucket'o'hipsters here all playing a game of grab ass with each other while mimicking each others rehashed phrases. It's pretty damn apparent that non of you know a good news network when you see one. I'm glad that Fox has the team that they do and they have been dead on with Nobama since before he took office. The man has lied to us time and time again and Fox has caught it and exposed it every. single. time. Do you smell what the Lock's cooking? |

baltec1
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Posted - 2012.02.14 21:12:00 -
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THE L0CK wrote:Look at the lot of you lambs. Got us a bucket'o'hipsters here all playing a game of grab ass with each other while mimicking each others rehashed phrases. It's pretty damn apparent that non of you know a good news network when you see one. I'm glad that Fox has the team that they do and they have been dead on with Nobama since before he took office. The man has lied to us time and time again and Fox has caught it and exposed it every. single. time.
Im guessing they left out the fact he has been blocked by republitards at every turn... |

Bootleg Jack
Potters Field
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Posted - 2012.02.15 01:18:00 -
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THE L0CK wrote:Look at the lot of you lambs. Got us a bucket'o'hipsters here all playing a game of grab ass with each other while mimicking each others rehashed phrases. It's pretty damn apparent that non of you know a good news network when you see one. I'm glad that Fox has the team that they do and they have been dead on with Nobama since before he took office. The man has lied to us time and time again and Fox has caught it and exposed it every. single. time.
lol, another one who actually believes in FOX  |

Slade Trillgon
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Posted - 2012.02.15 18:04:00 -
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stoicfaux wrote:Jada Maroo wrote:Merin Ryskin wrote: You know, I would love to see a REAL marxist/socialist/whatever president, not a spineless center-right empty suit like Obama. Not because I actually like marxism, but because the tears from people like you would be so beautiful.
If it's tears you like, you're in luck! Marxism is the most efficient system of distributing human misery ever created. Two problems with that statement: a) Marxism doesn't exist in the real world. Name one country where the working class has all the power. b) Capitalism is much more efficient. Look at the British Empire and colonialism. Or the US's history with banana republics. Never underestimate the efficiency of capitalism. Raw capitalism only appears friendly because a capitalistic society needs to keep its own citizens happy. What you don't see is the abuse going on off-shore. Meaning, Wal-Mart prices are great for US citizens if you ignore where the products are made and the working conditions in those countries.
Thank you for that Stoicfaux. I was about to bring up the concept of Banana Republics, but decided that it would fly over the heads of too many people.
But brace yourself, because it is ineveitable that it will be said that the US brought prosperity to the people of those 'nations' 
Riedle wrote:I like Fox News. Nothing wrong with it. They have opinion shows and they always present both sides of the story. They will have panelists from the left and the right.
The biggest problem with Fox news is the morons on the left who are seemingly incapable of differentiating between hard news and commentary. lol.
Why? Because they are used to the old guard media presenting leftward opinion as hard news.
Edit: To the OP:
Typical leftist GÇô wanting to control what others do. HereGÇÖs a hint GÇô if you donGÇÖt like it, turn the channel.
The highlighted part is just righteous Reidle, considering that the wedge issues that the 'two parties' use to manipulate the 'two sides' of the voting public revolve around the Right and the Left telling people what they can and can not do and what they should and should not do. One would be a fool to think the 'Righ't truly wants to be fiscally conservative and non-invasive
Get over yourself. Both sides want to control you; you just happen to be more in favor of the things the 'Right' want to control.
Slade
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Herzog Wolfhammer
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Posted - 2012.02.15 18:27:00 -
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It's believed that episodes like this didn't help stay on FOX
But ANY talk of false flag terrorism gets you in trouble of sorts
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Riedle
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Posted - 2012.02.15 20:36:00 -
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Bootleg Jack wrote:THE L0CK wrote:Look at the lot of you lambs. Got us a bucket'o'hipsters here all playing a game of grab ass with each other while mimicking each others rehashed phrases. It's pretty damn apparent that non of you know a good news network when you see one. I'm glad that Fox has the team that they do and they have been dead on with Nobama since before he took office. The man has lied to us time and time again and Fox has caught it and exposed it every. single. time. lol, another one who actually believes in FOX 
You think Fox News is like Santa Claus? |

Riedle
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Posted - 2012.02.15 20:45:00 -
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Slade Trillgon wrote:stoicfaux wrote:Jada Maroo wrote:Merin Ryskin wrote: You know, I would love to see a REAL marxist/socialist/whatever president, not a spineless center-right empty suit like Obama. Not because I actually like marxism, but because the tears from people like you would be so beautiful.
If it's tears you like, you're in luck! Marxism is the most efficient system of distributing human misery ever created. Two problems with that statement: a) Marxism doesn't exist in the real world. Name one country where the working class has all the power. b) Capitalism is much more efficient. Look at the British Empire and colonialism. Or the US's history with banana republics. Never underestimate the efficiency of capitalism. Raw capitalism only appears friendly because a capitalistic society needs to keep its own citizens happy. What you don't see is the abuse going on off-shore. Meaning, Wal-Mart prices are great for US citizens if you ignore where the products are made and the working conditions in those countries. Thank you for that Stoicfaux. I was about to bring up the concept of Banana Republics, but decided that it would fly over the heads of too many people. But brace yourself, because it is ineveitable that it will be said that the US brought prosperity to the people of those 'nations'  Riedle wrote:I like Fox News. Nothing wrong with it. They have opinion shows and they always present both sides of the story. They will have panelists from the left and the right.
The biggest problem with Fox news is the morons on the left who are seemingly incapable of differentiating between hard news and commentary. lol.
Why? Because they are used to the old guard media presenting leftward opinion as hard news.
Edit: To the OP:
Typical leftist GÇô wanting to control what others do. HereGÇÖs a hint GÇô if you donGÇÖt like it, turn the channel. The highlighted part is just righteous Reidle, considering that the wedge issues that the 'two parties' use to manipulate the 'two sides' of the voting public revolve around the Right and the Left telling people what they can and can not do and what they should and should not do. One would be a fool to think the 'Righ't truly wants to be fiscally conservative and non-invasive Get over yourself. Both sides want to control you; you just happen to be more in favor of the things the 'Right' want to control. Slade
Get over myself? In what way? I never said that anything should be banned nor did I say that the 'right' doesn't infringe on freedoms.
What I did say was that the OP was implying a restriction because it was something that he did not agree with. He was behaving like a typical leftist in that, by in large, do not like dissenting opinions and will demonize people who disagree with them. It becomes a pile on. Leftists despise fox news because the narrative doesnGÇÖt fit with their world view. MSNBC and CBC here in Canada typically do not fit my world view but it doesnGÇÖt even cross my mind to have access to them restricted.
So if you would care to debate on that then we can but I will not be getting over myself anytime soon, sorry. I quite like myself just the way I am GÇô thanks.
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baltec1
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Posted - 2012.02.15 20:57:00 -
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Riedle wrote:
You think Fox News is like Santa Claus?
Theres about as much truth in both. |

Nova Fox
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Posted - 2012.02.15 21:57:00 -
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I came here expecting news about fox and left disapointed.
Either way there plenty of documents showing an active political campaign to destroy the network and who would think you acutally NEED money to shut up a news station.
As Huxly feared the most, the truth would be buried in obscurity.
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2012.02.15 22:36:00 -
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Riedle wrote: Leftists despise fox news because the narrative doesnGÇÖt fit with their world view.
No, leftists despise fox news because they outright lie while pretending to be a source of "news". Since many people don't have the time or interest to double-check every single claim they hear on the news, the end result is fox gets to use any dishonest strategy they like to promote a conservative agenda* and gain way more influence than they should legitimately have. Like it or not, freedom of speech was never intended to cover willful fraud and deception, and the only reason fox "news" is still around is because our entire government would never dare to regulate a profitable corporation that gives frequent campaign donations.
Now, if fox news changed to offer news with an honest conservative viewpoint, we'd hate them a lot less. Of course they'd also be a lot less popular...
*Not that the owners of fox news actually care about the conservative agenda, they've just figured out that selling conservative bull**** to gullible morons is a profitable business strategy.
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Riedle
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Posted - 2012.02.16 00:30:00 -
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Merin Ryskin wrote:Riedle wrote: Leftists despise fox news because the narrative doesnGÇÖt fit with their world view. No, leftists despise fox news because they outright lie while pretending to be a source of "news". Since many people don't have the time or interest to double-check every single claim they hear on the news, the end result is fox gets to use any dishonest strategy they like to promote a conservative agenda* and gain way more influence than they should legitimately have. Like it or not, freedom of speech was never intended to cover willful fraud and deception, and the only reason fox "news" is still around is because our entire government would never dare to regulate a profitable corporation that gives frequent campaign donations. Now, if fox news changed to offer news with an honest conservative viewpoint, we'd hate them a lot less. Of course they'd also be a lot less popular... *Not that the owners of fox news actually care about the conservative agenda, they've just figured out that selling conservative bull**** to gullible morons is a profitable business strategy.
got it.
1) fox news peddles lies but no one knows this because no one can be bother to check but you are pretty sure it's correct anyways.lol
2) They cannot be shut up as they are protected under freedom of speach but you think they are perverting the intent of freedom of speach and freedom of speach should be protected so long as you agree with what they are saying... haha You be trollin right? gotta be
3) The government is afraid to shut them up in anycase because they give a ton of money to politcal campaigns.. LOL
4) People who watch fox news are gullible morons (piece du resistance)
There isn't too much that you know nothing about is there?
lols
PS: Fox news has a larger liberal audience than either CNN or MSNBC - but you know, I can see that reality and you are not on speaking terms so I will leave it be.
toodles |

Riedle
Wayne's TV and Appliances
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Posted - 2012.02.16 00:33:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Riedle wrote:
You think Fox News is like Santa Claus?
Theres about as much truth in both.
I thougnt you only got ABC news over there or are you just parroting the same line people have told you?
thought so. |

Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2012.02.16 00:39:00 -
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Riedle wrote:1) fox news peddles lies but no one knows this because no one can be bother to check but you are pretty sure it's correct anyways.lol
Please learn to read. I said that MANY people do not check their facts independently, not that I refuse to. It's unfortunate, but there are a lot of people who trust anything published in the newspaper/stated on tv/etc and don't verify controversial claims with independent sources. Therefore:
1) Fox news has more influence than they would in an ideal world where their entire audience would immediately notice any dishonesty.
and
2) Like all other news sources, fox news needs to be held to a much higher standard than the average person. Unfortunately, this does not happen.
Quote:2) They cannot be shut up as they are protected under freedom of speach but you think they are perverting the intent of freedom of speach and freedom of speach should be protected so long as you agree with what they are saying... haha You be trollin right? gotta be
Once again, please learn to read.
I said that freedom of speech does not cover deliberate fraud and deception. You can't claim "freedom of speech" when someone sues you for a fraudulent contract, false advertising, etc.
Please do not strawman this into the very different claim, which I have never made, that freedom of speech only covers things that I agree with. There is plenty of room for legitimate disagreement, so long as it is honest disagreement.
Quote:3) The government is afraid to shut them up in anycase because they give a ton of money to politcal campaigns.. LOL
So, what fantasy world do you live in where the US government does NOT give favorable treatment to large corporations in exchange for bribery in all but name?
Quote:4) People who watch fox news are gullible morons (piece du resistance)
No, people who believe in the conservative agenda are gullible morons. Fox news has just figured out that they're a very profitable market to sell to. |

Riedle
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Posted - 2012.02.16 00:53:00 -
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Quote:Please learn to read. I said that MANY people do not check their facts independently, not that I refuse to. It's unfortunate, but there are a lot of people who trust anything published in the newspaper/stated on tv/etc and don't verify controversial claims with independent sources. Therefore:
1) Fox news has more influence than they would in an ideal world where their entire audience would immediately notice any dishonesty.
and
2) Like all other news sources, fox news needs to be held to a much higher standard than the average person. Unfortunately, this does not happen.
Oh, I see. I was unaware where they had lost their license to broadcast? You do know that they are members in good standing with all the relevant jouralistic and new reporting organizations do you not?
Quote:Once again, please learn to read.
I said that freedom of speech does not cover deliberate fraud and deception. You can't claim "freedom of speech" when someone sues you for a fraudulent contract, false advertising, etc.
Please do not strawman this into the very different claim, which I have never made, that freedom of speech only covers things that I agree with. There is plenty of room for legitimate disagreement, so long as it is honest disagreement.
Freedom of speech indeed does not protect fox from broadcasting libelous and malicious content - correct! Funny, despite this, they are still on. Why do you suppose that it is so in the most litigious society on earth? lol
Quote:So, what fantasy world do you live in where the US government does NOT give favorable treatment to large corporations in exchange for bribery in all but name?
Ummmm.. You DO know Obama is a democrat right? You realize conservative = republican most of the time? lol
Quote:No, people who believe in the conservative agenda are gullible morons. Fox news has just figured out that they're a very profitable market to sell to.
Ahhh.. I see! So it's not just fox news watchers who are the morons but just anyone who doesn't see things your way politically. Got it! Thanks! |

Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2012.02.16 01:00:00 -
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Riedle wrote:Oh, I see. I was unaware where they had lost their license to broadcast? You do know that they are members in good standing with all the relevant jouralistic and new reporting organizations do you not?
I said they SHOULD be regulated, not that they are. Please learn to read.
Quote:Freedom of speech indeed does not protect fox from broadcasting libelous and malicious content - correct! Funny, despite this, they are still on. Why do you suppose that it is so in the most litigious society on earth? lol
Because they haven't yet crossed the line into open libel and malicious content? No doubt they have plenty of lawyers advising them on exactly what they can legally broadcast without getting into trouble.
However, I'm talking about what is ethically justified, not what is permitted under a legal system which is clearly in favor of large corporations. In case you hadn't noticed, legalism is a pretty terrible ethical system.
Quote:Ummmm.. You DO know Obama is a democrat right? You realize conservative = republican most of the time?
Hint for the clueless: the president of the US has very little power over this subject.
Also, if you think that the democrats are anti-conservative enough to actually go against corporate interests in any meaningful way, then you clearly haven't been paying any attention to US politics. Remember the part where the current democrat leadership is made up of center-right career politicians who value compromise above all else?
Quote:Ahhh.. I see! So it's not just fox news watchers who are the morons but just anyone who doesn't see things your way politically. Got it! Thanks!
I'm sorry to give you this unpleasant news, but large parts of the conservative agenda require you to be a complete ****ing idiot to accept them. There are a lot of intelligent people who I don't agree with, but people who believe things like "global warming is a myth" and "abortion is murder" are not included in that group. |
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