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Veng3ance Prophets Of a Damned Universe	Posted - 2007.12.14 21:56:00 - [91] Originally by: Boom ChickaBoom Ok, I guess smashkill is missing my point. I never said anything about the K/D ratio im just asking why you are letting yourselfs get spanked. You keep saying your loses are random gank's of noob players so heres some smashkill loses in the last few weeks to enj. Battleship - 170 Battle cruiser - 127 Command ship - 25 Carrier - 4 heavy assault ship - 34 freighter - 3 And if you check out enj's KB you will see lots more. So if all those are just random gank's you got problems. LOL owned. See you in space Smash / Roadkill.
Mistress Suffering Einherjar Rising	Posted - 2007.12.14 21:57:00 - [92] Originally by: Boom ChickaBoom stuff Thanks, but you're quite welcome to stop. We do any public message quite directly without the need of alts. You can search my post history and find uncomfortable subjects regarding a variety of people. In this case, violence is occuring. We like violence. Violence makes me feel happy and fulfilled.
Boom ChickaBoom Caldari Friendly Pod Poppers	Posted - 2007.12.14 22:00:00 - [93] Originally by: Graalum Originally by: Flinx Evenstar Originally by: Tobias Sjodin In our case most likely his corp, alliance, or in the best case CCP - where he will leave the corp, the alliance, or the game respectively. Ultimately, we're rid of the problem. Unfortunately, when one leaves - there's always some joker to replace him, with 50 million eBayed skillpoints. Thats some tough love you teaching in Smashkill. BWF is always fun to visit, you can always catch a slow guy or two before they gang up with an overwhelming force. Not complaining about blobs btw...you are defending, and you drive us off But please, can some of directors look at loss mails..and post them Several of your pilots seem to be ashamed of their losses. A small example is this attempted gank on my bait ship...not one of those losses are on your board, and pretty much none of them from our current little war dec against you. It's fun to fight you anyways, and nice to see some familiar faces again. noone knows the password for the killboard atm. I have a kill and two lossmails that i need to post, but can't. Try CRAP Chaos Incarnate R0adkill Atlas Peoke
zykerx Lo0nEy To0nS R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.12.14 22:07:00 - [94] stop crying about sk kilboards jeez stupid numbernerds we never sayed its acurate hell we always sayed its not and atm new kb wich some people dont got pass for yet why dont ya make a kb forus and feed all km on there o.0 hell i had more kills on battleclinic then i had on rk kb amazing that at every new bwf gate attacker there comes this threads again and crying about kb's . "MY COMMENTS IN NO WAY REFLECT MY CORP OR ALLIANCE"
ZenTex Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.12.14 22:24:00 - [95] I've read this thread before. At first I thought it was a necro but it's not. it's not even a deja-vu. Atleast every 2 months a thread like this pops up. corps camping BWF and ganking in the pipe and declaring victory. It's the same old thing. People accuse smashkill are acting superior because we keep posting it doesn't matter a lot. Newsflash, we don't give a damn. BWF is being camped 23/7. It's always been like that. Assmeble a gang and they're gone and those wanting to go through do so. Sometimes we even lose such a brawl. But even large numbers lost don't hurt us, it punishes ppl for not being on edge. Besides, in the sparse major engagements we had loss/killnumbers match the losses posted here, but in 1 or 2 days. Like I said, nothing new is happening. Business as usual. There's little a sledgehammer can't fix. If you can't fix it, you need a bigger sledgehammer. If it's unfixable, blame CCP. :p
Nizar Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.12.14 22:36:00 - [96] Originally by: Flinx Evenstar Originally by: Tobias Sjodin In our case most likely his corp, alliance, or in the best case CCP - where he will leave the corp, the alliance, or the game respectively. Ultimately, we're rid of the problem. Unfortunately, when one leaves - there's always some joker to replace him, with 50 million eBayed skillpoints. Thats some tough love you teaching in Smashkill. BWF is always fun to visit, you can always catch a slow guy or two before they gang up with an overwhelming force. Not complaining about blobs btw...you are defending, and you drive us off But please, can some of directors look at loss mails..and post them Several of your pilots seem to be ashamed of their losses. A small example is this attempted gank on my bait ship...not one of those losses are on your board, and pretty much none of them from our current little war dec against you. It's fun to fight you anyways, and nice to see some familiar faces again. oh god, i can not believe you posted a killmail link in CAOD. i also see some kill numbers in this thread. hahaha, dont you know only gimps do that... -------------- Nizar -------------- BARON VON NEINLEDERHOSEN
Flinx Evenstar Minmatar Omniscient Order	Posted - 2007.12.14 22:40:00 - [97] Originally by: Nizar oh god, i can not believe you posted a killmail link in CAOD. i also see some kill numbers in this thread. hahaha, dont you know only gimps do that... Good evening, I wrote a polite post gently reminding that Smashkill don't post their losses. When we attacked you in CI, there were on average 40 per day missing. Reading the responses, it's hard to understand why people refer to you as SmackKill. Well once again, it was nice killing you tonight.
AVENGUARD Pegasus Mining and Securities R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.12.14 22:44:00 - [98] Edited by: AVENGUARD on 14/12/2007 22:44:51 SINCE YOU CARE SO MUCH ABOUT OUR KILLBOARD CHECK IT OUT - its not updating, its lost most of our kills/losses so far. So jerk off to your own - thx edited cos I can't spell :)
Flinx Evenstar Minmatar Omniscient Order	Posted - 2007.12.14 22:47:00 - [99] Originally by: AVENGUARD Edited by: AVENGUARD on 14/12/2007 22:44:51 SINCE YOU CARE SO MUCH ABOUT OUR KILLBOARD CHECK IT OUT - its not updating, its lost most of our kills/losses so far. So jerk off to your own - thx edited cos I can't spell :) So that would the case for the last 6months then...and thanks for the smack, at least you do that well
AVENGUARD Pegasus Mining and Securities R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.12.14 22:49:00 - [100] Nope just for now though we seem to have lost all kills/loses prior to update Some people will never post losses same old story look for kills on ur board and your losses on ours (if it ever works) - its always the same
Peoke Caldari Unknown Shoe Corp. SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.14 22:52:00 - [101] wow qoute this. if a smash member posts a loss mail i will remove him. smashkill killboards will be the most inaccurate cause it means ****. you post these kills and you achieved what, getting flammed in your eve-o glory thread. good move man must feel all warm and fuzzy watching you attempt at being known to being crushed about your stupidity.
Flinx Evenstar Minmatar Omniscient Order	Posted - 2007.12.14 22:57:00 - [102] Originally by: AVENGUARD Nope just for now though we seem to have lost all kills/loses prior to update Some people will never post losses same old story look for kills on ur board and your losses on ours (if it ever works) - its always the same Thats a more civilised response ty I spoke to a few RK directors in 2007/07 about the prob, I was given the password to cross post, but you have changed it now It's the same story in most large alliances, lots of npc'rs getting ganked and hiding the loss. The worse offender in RK was this one guy who lost a nicely fitted nighthawk, then and hour later lost a carrier. And none were posted He was dying at least 3 times a day..hope you kicked him As you are aware, our contract ends tonight, so I wish you luck, and thanks to the gang that engaged us earlier.
mankanator	Posted - 2007.12.14 22:59:00 - [103] Originally by: Peoke wow qoute this. if a smash member posts a loss mail i will remove him. smashkill killboards will be the most inaccurate cause it means **. you post these kills and you achieved what, getting flammed in your eve-o glory thread. good move man must feel all warm and fuzzy watching you attempt at being known to being crushed about your stupidity. you're absolutely right, who cares if your alliance is full of **s, if you can't use intel channels, if you get annihilated at every engagement that's anything close to fair. of course killboards mean **.
AVENGUARD Pegasus Mining and Securities R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.12.14 23:03:00 - [104] Edited by: AVENGUARD on 14/12/2007 23:04:21 I have no issue with Omniscient Order or any merc corp that engages us - their doing their bit and as you no doubt know have very little effect overall but keeps life interesting. Some other corps really do believe we're on our knees after a carrier lose or a nicely fitted bs GL to Omniscient Order was sorry to hear CI is no more P.S to the guy above corp and allience ticker - its in the forum settings
dastommy79 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.14 23:49:00 - [105] GUYS GUYS THINK OF THE K/D RATIO...... Come on people. I fly with smashkill and i flew with POD-U back in my FLA days. All good peeps. This Killboard crap needs to stop. just look at the goons for example lool. Lets continue to play cat and mouse on the bwf gate and have some fun. well not me, i'm omw down to stain I driks lot signature removed- Jacques([email protected])
dastommy79 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.14 23:51:00 - [106] Originally by: Urrorur Support the movement. I fully support/approve of dis message. NAST FOR LIFE I driks lot signature removed- Jacques([email protected])
Quaren Gallente Spartan Industries	Posted - 2007.12.14 23:56:00 - [107] Smashkill is ftw! and so is my new sig btw! GO smashkill! <3 scooter1
Mr Broker Amarr Station Gremlings	Posted - 2007.12.15 01:38:00 - [108] why you reply to a alt's thread? what you expect the result to be?
NeuSiresMOM	Posted - 2007.12.15 02:32:00 - [109] Originally by: Boom ChickaBoom Ok, I guess smashkill is missing my point. I never said anything about the K/D ratio im just asking why you are letting yourselfs get spanked. You keep saying your loses are random gank's of noob players so heres some smashkill loses in the last few weeks to enj. Battleship - 170 Battle cruiser - 127 Command ship - 25 Carrier - 4 heavy assault ship - 34 freighter - 3 And if you check out enj's KB you will see lots more. So if all those are just random gank's you got problems. And still they own NO space.
Admiral Nova Strike Team Nova	Posted - 2007.12.15 05:22:00 - [110] Originally by: NeuSiresMOM And still they own NO space. I think you're losing cause and effect, non-space holding PvP entities have much better K/D ratios because: a) They don't need to have industry alts in the same entity b) They have no exposed assets once they log c) They can be alot smaller, further limiting their exposure If they ever by some miracle do acquire space, all that changes and they end up on the other side of the fence.
looMin uS Minmatar Species 5618 R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.12.15 06:20:00 - [111] VOTE SAMUEL JACKSON FOR PRESIDENT! ------------------------------------------------
E Vile Fifth Exiled Legion SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.15 06:58:00 - [112] Oooo Nooo they camp the FIRST gate into Smashkill space and get morons not watching intel, then run when a fleet blobs them! We have bigger fish to fry right now. Maybe we'll get to you when were done with a real foe.
Bo Bojangles Minmatar High4Life SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.15 07:31:00 - [113] As for me,.. attending to BWF defense every great once in awhile is ok, but it's just like trying to dig a hole in water. I haven't seen a battle on that gate yet that was close one way or the other, it's just a battle of the blobs. And for what? ENH and friends aren't going to attempt to pew a tower, so why bother really. If I were on their side of the fence, I'd love it,.. plenty of pew, ditz haulers always coming through the pew zone, and safety only two jumps away. Why would ya wanna pew anywhere else!!!
Arakk Caldari VersaTech Interstellar Ltd. SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.15 08:23:00 - [114] Originally by: Admiral Nova Originally by: NeuSiresMOM And still they own NO space. I think you're losing cause and effect, non-space holding PvP entities have much better K/D ratios because: a) They don't need to have industry alts in the same entity b) They have no exposed assets once they log c) They can be alot smaller, further limiting their exposure If they ever by some miracle do acquire space, all that changes and they end up on the other side of the fence. They choose: D) When to attack. E) Where to attack. F) With what to attack WITH, after uber ezmode recon. G) Can easily run and hide in thousands of empire systems should they somehow (after all those advantages) not have a winning favor. H) Cannot be found in any one place 24/7.
OneSHotKillah Minmatar Warrior Nation United SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.15 09:19:00 - [115] Edited by: OneSHotKillah on 15/12/2007 09:20:18 Originally by: Wesley Baird we only ever had caps dropped on us in systems with cyno jammers...funny how that worked... and?
Rathkan Antares Fleet Yards SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.15 12:45:00 - [116] Originally by: Peoke wow qoute this. if a smash member posts a loss mail i will remove him. smashkill killboards will be the most inaccurate cause it means ****. you post these kills and you achieved what, getting flammed in your eve-o glory thread. good move man must feel all warm and fuzzy watching you attempt at being known to being crushed about your stupidity. Can someone explain to me why it's even in our best interest to post lossmails? I understand when we have an actual campaign that information is useful to know, to get an idea whether it's worth continuing the campaign. But posting lossmails due to getting ganked by a bunch of pirates? Big friggin' deal, Darwinism prevails. Posting lossmails only increases the pirate's e-peen and why would we want to do that? I'd rather just let you guys whine about it.
Thak Navari Caldari Uneasy Corp Te-Ka	Posted - 2007.12.15 13:12:00 - [117] SmashKill are a great bunch to fly with!!! SmashKill Backer all the way! Looks like a few gate campers are looking for recognition! It happens in every bottleneck it would seem.
zykerx Lo0nEy To0nS R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.12.15 13:54:00 - [118] they jerking off on there k/b stats and cry about it that they cant jerkoff on sk kb as we dont got a post or ya die policy :O funny how some people think they are important for ganking a few people . "MY COMMENTS IN NO WAY REFLECT MY CORP OR ALLIANCE"
Peanut Swsh Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.12.15 13:56:00 - [119] Edited by: Peanut Swsh on 15/12/2007 14:03:09 KILLBOARDS!!1!!ONE!!ELEVENTY!11!!ONE Answer to OP: Flexing muscle and doing something about it? like what exactly? We bring lots of dudes (flexing muscle yarggh) to shoot at them and they just run away. Its a perfect ganking location for them, plenty of targets, and with half decent intel, they really should never lose a ship with the remote repping setup they run. But for us its a waste of time. Yep sometimes they are engaged by our gangs and we lose a lot of ships, even when we have more doodz then them. The problem in talking just numbers in most these situations is that usually the smashkill gangs are mixed gangs, maybe 20-40% BS, whereas the Einherjar gangs in these cases are almost 80-90% BS with a few tacklers. Einherjar + friends also have the same bunch of dudes who always fly together, whereas we have a hodgepodge of usually at least 4 alliances fighting against them (often with new/inexperienced FC's). Also most of the older smashkill avoid bwf, so most of the guys there tend to be newer people who use it for its convenience as an entry point close to jita, they will learn soon (hopefully) what a waste of time bothering with hostile BWF camps is. When we engage a few different things happen. In the ideal situation we engage them at mid range 30+km out (usually further). We can either run our own remote rep setup, or because they hug the gate so can't tackle us we can just warp in and out at will so we won't lose ships because they can't tackle, and they don't lose ships because we don't have the ability to instapop them unless we mega blob them. Pretty much a standoff, and this is what happens when one of our good FC's is running the gang. This accomplishes nothing, and Einherjar camping BWF is only a minor inconvenince, plus there is better pvp to be had elsewhere, so most of the good FC's don't bother wasting their time with bwf anymore. Better use of time is to npc. So what actually happens most of the time, is that some random smashkill dudes get a gang together, and they warp to the gate and with equal or more numbers and die because they don't have the remote repping setup that einherjar run, and the gang has a low percentage of BS, which means that despite bigger numbers dps is lower and less hp so they die rather quickly. They seem to be learning rather slowly from their mistakes but whatever, they'll learn eventually, and its good practise for up and coming guys to have a go at FC'ing. End of the day just like every other time a group has decided to camp BWF they have done well on the killboards. The effect on Smashkill if anything is probably positive, it helps us sort out the trash and it gives people a chance at running gangs. And I think that we have had a few good kills too, there was that fully faction pith hardener, CNR that we blew up in Oijanen the other day. Think someone worked out it was worth 2BN+, so thats worth 2 carrier kills :). The only negative is that we get a bit trounced on the forums, but yeah, internet forum spaceship hypothetical EFT game oh wells. p.s. Read SCOOTER1's bio, you might learn something :)
Shadow Mancer Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.12.15 14:51:00 - [120] whoa I like Peanut's writing style, very well thought, paragraphs are nicely done. Man, u ever considered to become Peoke's english tutor :)))

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