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Meryl SinGarda
Belligerent Underpayed Tactical Team
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Posted - 2011.09.06 23:43:00 -
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Skippermonkey wrote:Magnus Orin wrote:I have rarely have seen a bad Akita T thread or even post. Sadly this is one.
Did you really just assume that the majority of users don't like the new forums simply because you don't like them for some random technical reasons?
They are shiny and they work. That's all that's really needed. A toyota Prius is ' shiney' and ' works' doesnt mean i want it forced on me when the old car did a better job. Anyway dood, tow the party line, remember the goons are all mad a CCP rite?
If we're going to use that analogy then I could easily say that your old car may work, but it's gotta go to the shop much more frequently than a new, 21st century car.
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Cunane Jeran
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Posted - 2011.09.06 23:47:00 -
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I like the new forums, the old one was good don't get me wrong but this one works better on the phone and gets the job done.
You certainly don't speak on my behalf when you slate the new one you may not like it that doesn't mean everyone else doesn't. |
Yadira Kerr
Kador Rookie Academy
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Posted - 2011.09.07 00:05:00 -
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As I'm new the old forums haven't grown on me, but even to me this new forum is a step backwards. All the avatars are way too big and the spacing is all weird.
Also, it seems as if I can't create a URL in my signature?
My Blog: http://yadiraeve.wordpress.com/
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Sorbus Lipstick
0
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Posted - 2011.09.07 00:08:00 -
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Aphoxema G wrote:I get that, and I know the new forums aren't perfect, but does anyone realize how much the other forums sucked? Good results take time and it's great for Akita to have input, but it couldn't hurt to be a little more constructive and little less personally offended when CCP finally gets on the right track. I really, really hate the old forums. They were awful and seemed like nothing more than a featureless, naked version of phpBB. That's my opinion. My opinion is that it is good the old, terrible forums are being abandoned and the new, beautiful forums with a few little and some serious things that need to be fixed. As it is, in my opiniony opinion, that these forums are a vast, huge, megalithic improvement over the horrible horrible old forums.
This.
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Taedrin
Kushan Industrial
5
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Posted - 2011.09.07 00:09:00 -
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Meryl SinGarda wrote:Skippermonkey wrote:Magnus Orin wrote:I have rarely have seen a bad Akita T thread or even post. Sadly this is one.
Did you really just assume that the majority of users don't like the new forums simply because you don't like them for some random technical reasons?
They are shiny and they work. That's all that's really needed. A toyota Prius is ' shiney' and ' works' doesnt mean i want it forced on me when the old car did a better job. Anyway dood, tow the party line, remember the goons are all mad a CCP rite? If we're going to use that analogy then I could easily say that your old car may work, but it's gotta go to the shop much more frequently than a new, 21st century car.
You are overextending the analogy. Analogies are never perfect
My only complaint about the forums is that the layout is fixed, and thus does not automatically adjust itself to the user's window.
Aside from that, the new forums are fine, IMO - if a little light on some of the old forum's bbcode features. |
Nin Kimrov
Kenzi Arms and Munitions
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Posted - 2011.09.07 00:11:00 -
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Yadira Kerr wrote:As I'm new the old forums haven't grown on me, but even to me this new forum is a step backwards. All the avatars are way too big and the spacing is all weird.
Also, it seems as if I can't create a URL in my signature?
For their marketing strategy, their forum are genious! They decided to recreate Facebook! with Spaceship! WOW! All those big pictures! This is what facebooker look!
But still...they didn't through that it's not because Facebook work that you need to copy them. Personnally I don't have a Facebook account and I don't want one, even if its about Avatars playing spaceship games.
I think CCP missed something there with all this EvE gate stuff. |
Mistress Motion
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.09.07 00:16:00 -
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Nin Kimrov wrote:For their marketing strategy, their forum are genious! They decided to recreate Facebook! with Spaceship! WOW! All those big pictures! This is what facebooker look!
But still...they didn't through that it's not because Facebook work that you need to copy them. Personnally I don't have a Facebook account and I don't want one, even if its about Avatars playing spaceship games.
I think CCP missed something there with all this EvE gate stuff.
So you don't have a facebook account? Maybe that's why you fail to see how little common it has with this.
Yes, a "Like" button. Without that people would write stupid "+1" and clutter threads with those empty posts. |
Richard Hammond II
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.09.07 00:22:00 -
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How do you change the background? Ive heard that you can They hired actual clothing designers for WiS clothes "no wonder the monocle cost $80, they had to pay royalties" Screw "FiS" its called EVE CCP |
KaarBaak
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Posted - 2011.09.07 00:24:00 -
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The new forums are terribroke, and here we are nearly on page 6 discussing that concept. So, I'm not seeing the anti-forum argument.
Regardless, CCP has proven historically that they don't care about aesthetic complaints (see in-game UI).
They will only respond to security threats. To that end, the OP proposes a reasonable albeit anarchic solution if you accept his POV.
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Nin Kimrov
Kenzi Arms and Munitions
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Posted - 2011.09.07 00:31:00 -
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KaarBaak wrote: The new forums are terribroke, and here we are nearly on page 6 discussing that concept. So, I'm not seeing the anti-forum argument.
Regardless, CCP has proven historically that they don't care about aesthetic complaints (see in-game UI).
They will only respond to security threats. To that end, the OP proposes a reasonable albeit anarchic solution if you accept his POV.
Currently, does anyone know if CCP care about anything other than the other games they are developping? |
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Richard Hammond II
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.09.07 01:12:00 -
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Nin Kimrov wrote:KaarBaak wrote: The new forums are terribroke, and here we are nearly on page 6 discussing that concept. So, I'm not seeing the anti-forum argument.
Regardless, CCP has proven historically that they don't care about aesthetic complaints (see in-game UI).
They will only respond to security threats. To that end, the OP proposes a reasonable albeit anarchic solution if you accept his POV.
Currently, does anyone know if CCP care about anything other than the other games they are developping?
lol they dont even care about the games. Theyre "staying the course"
They hired actual clothing designers for WiS clothes "no wonder the monocle cost $80, they had to pay royalties" Screw "FiS" its called EVE CCP |
Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2011.09.07 01:16:00 -
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Richard Hammond II wrote:How do you change the background? Ive heard that you can This will help.
CCP Zulu.....Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |
randomToon987
4
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Posted - 2011.09.07 01:50:00 -
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I've spent some time today writing custom css for this terrible thing to at least make it usable. If you want img tags in sigs and posts go here.
This piece of crap still sucks. Some people at CCP web cell should get fired, but that won't happen because they're Hilmar's relatives. |
Reiisha
Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2011.09.07 04:14:00 -
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You know Hilmar, developers do not always know better than the customers. As a general rule, yes, but at the moment CCP is showing the exception to the rule....
Hubris! It's even in the WoD books for crying out loud. |
RUSROG
Beasts of Burden
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Posted - 2011.09.07 04:35:00 -
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CopyCatz wrote:Where's the dislike button? I want to try it on your post.
If there was a 'dislike' button, it would discourage some people from posting stupid **** or asking silly questions - they would feel bad.
Then there would nothing to fuel EVE forums.
Do you really want that to happen?
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Testing filter
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Your tears fuel me. And as always, have nice day. |
Si Omega
45
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Posted - 2011.09.07 06:13:00 -
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Quote:Anyway dood, tow the party line, remember the goons are all mad a CCP rite?
lolz @ this. Getting to be far too true ain't it.
2 camps on the forums atm.
Camp 1) I hate so you must too.
Camp 2) I like it and don't care that you don't. <<< Si Omega lives here |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.09.07 06:16:00 -
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Si Omega wrote:2 camps on the forums atm.
Camp 1) I hate so you must too.
Camp 2) I like it and hate you if you don't. <<< Si Omega lives here Fixed.
Oh, and your forgot Camp 3) Stop being stupid CCP. GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á |
WeirdNoise
tagueuletoi
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Posted - 2011.09.07 06:18:00 -
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Wow this is so kewl !!!!! I can see my avatar in big and shiny ! You're just haters... :))) Where's my Like button ?
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Jowen Datloran
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.09.07 06:21:00 -
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Maybe for a pure forum junkie the ability to not maximize to full screen can be an issue. But when using the forum at work or from within the game I have no interest in it covering up all of my screen. There are tons of improvements here, a little loss of functionality but nothing that would make me prefer the old forum above this new one. Mr. Science & Trade Institute, EVE Online Lorebook-á |
DeBingJos
T.R.I.A.D
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Posted - 2011.09.07 06:22:00 -
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The forums are not as bad as I expected. Look at the good things:
- You can subscribe to topics.
- We now have a search funcion.
The bad: (for me)
- The font is way to small (can be fixed in with CTRL +)
- It is a lot slower than before.
It this worth raging about? No Fix FW ! |
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.09.07 06:29:00 -
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Jowen Datloran wrote:Maybe for a pure forum junkie the ability to not maximize to full screen can be an issue. But when using the forum at work or from within the game I have no interest in it covering up all of my screen. But that's the whole problem: you have no choice. You cannot make it take up your full screen, but neither can you make it take up just a part of it (and still be readable). The old ones could because they had some flexibility in the layout that no longer exist with this fixed design.
Moreover, the old forums had options to alter at least some basic design stuff and then the rest of the forums conformed to this choice. Now, you have neither that option, nor any kind of adjustment based on such options.
All you're left with is the suboptimal choice of either using exactly the window size CCP wants you to use, or to scroll around a lot.
GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á |
catinboots
Vintage heavy industries
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Posted - 2011.09.07 06:40:00 -
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Akita and tippia the two biggest whinners of this community , it seem that according to those two ccp can do absolutely nothing right , everything ccp does or says is instantly critized by these two, no matter how well intended it is or how difficult it is to implement certain mechanics into the game, it just isn t good enough for them makes you wonder why they still bother with eve , If you both think you can do a better job why don t you apply for ajob with ccp or better why don t you start your own company and create your own mmom, i wonder how far you will go So this is permanence |
Ladie Scarlet
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.09.07 06:45:00 -
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catinboots wrote:Akita and tippia the two biggest whinners of this community , it seem that according to those two ccp can do absolutely nothing right , everything ccp does or says is instantly critized by these two, no matter how well intended it is or how difficult it is to implement certain mechanics into the game, it just isn t good enough for them makes you wonder why they still bother with eve , If you both think you can do a better job why don t you apply for ajob with ccp or better why don t you start your own company and create your own mmom, i wonder how far you will go Wow this is a bad post. Don't do this again.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.09.07 06:53:00 -
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catinboots wrote:Akita and tippia the two biggest whinners of this community , it seem that according to those two ccp can do absolutely nothing right , everything ccp does or says is instantly critized by these two Maybe you should actually read what we write every now and then. Both Akita and I happen to be rather common targets for being called CCP apologistsGǪ
Quote:no matter how well intended Yeah, seeGǪ here's the thing. Intentions are nice and all but they are entirely worthless. What matters is execution. If I intend to give you a nice warm apple pie and instead give you third-degree burns all over your face, are you going to criticise my cooking or are you going to mumble Gǣoh, but he meant wellGǥ once you lip transplants heal?
Quote:makes you wonder why they still bother with eve Because we know CCP can do better than this. We've seen it.
GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á |
Jita Alt666
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Posted - 2011.09.07 06:54:00 -
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Magnus Orin wrote:I have rarely have seen a bad Akita T thread or even post. Sadly this is one.
Did you really just assume that the majority of users don't like the new forums simply because you don't like them for some random technical reasons?
They are shiny and they work. That's all that's really needed.
Compulsory: U don't get Goons reply
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DeBingJos
T.R.I.A.D
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Posted - 2011.09.07 06:54:00 -
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catinboots wrote:Akita and tippia the two biggest whinners of this community , it seem that according to those two ccp can do absolutely nothing right , everything ccp does or says is instantly critized by these two, no matter how well intended it is or how difficult it is to implement certain mechanics into the game, it just isn t good enough for them makes you wonder why they still bother with eve , If you both think you can do a better job why don t you apply for ajob with ccp or better why don t you start your own company and create your own mmom, i wonder how far you will go
I suggest you read up on Tippia and Akita's posts then. Most of the time they are extremly well formulated. They belong to the few people on the forums that think before they post. Fix FW ! |
Jita Alt666
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Posted - 2011.09.07 06:57:00 -
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Tippia wrote: Because we know CCP can do better than this. We've seen it.
Apocrapha. We came. We saw. We played. We loved.
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Tautut
UNFRL Fleet Operations CONSORTIUM UNIVERSALIS
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Posted - 2011.09.07 07:04:00 -
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Akita T wrote:Obviously, not one soul at CCP with some halfway serious pull has been taking any of the constructive (and neither some of the less constructive) criticism to heart, so in spite of the many, many, MANY complaints made towards the form and function of the new forums (or new new forums, or new patched new forums, or whatever you want to call them), since they're pretty much identical (maybe without some of the more glaring security holes) to what we used to have.
You can't seriously expect CCP to run everything by committee.
I'm pretty impressed by the new setup. Perhaps I'm easily pleased.
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Sellendis
The Ares project
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Posted - 2011.09.07 07:39:00 -
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Tautut wrote:Akita T wrote:Obviously, not one soul at CCP with some halfway serious pull has been taking any of the constructive (and neither some of the less constructive) criticism to heart, so in spite of the many, many, MANY complaints made towards the form and function of the new forums (or new new forums, or new patched new forums, or whatever you want to call them), since they're pretty much identical (maybe without some of the more glaring security holes) to what we used to have.
You can't seriously expect CCP to run everything by committee. I'm pretty impressed by the new setup. Perhaps I'm easily pleased.
But can we ask for some QA about stuff they release? Do they even listen to their customers?
We are paying subs for internet spaceships, not primary for forums, barbies in (minmatar) jail and horror patch days that force you not to bother logging in for days after. All this stuff should be secondary, game-play first, fix goddamn hybrids, fix in-game problems (we have a lot of them).
If my employees let all known/reported bugs from test go live and screw up paying customers i would fire them or throw them into a volcano (i hear CCP has one nearby), it just goes to show how much attention Eve gets from CCP, like they barely make it work, release some crap that bugs all to **** and who cares....maybe they eventually patch it. |
Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Fatal Ascension
55
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Posted - 2011.09.07 08:50:00 -
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All I am saying, is get rid of Java.
Oh, and the ability to hide some of the forums would be nice(I don't want to dig through pages of item and character sales before getting to the forums worth reading) o/`-á Lord, I want to be a gynecologist.. KY, rubber gloves, and a flashlight.-á o/` |
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