the oldschool superbillion SP club wont ever let this pass ... they want to keep their advantage as it is.

In a way its annoying that your activity level in the game doesent help your skill points gathering in anyway.

+1 douche for non-content

the oldschool superbillion SP club wont ever let this pass ... they want to keep their advantage as it is.

In a way its annoying that your activity level in the game doesent help your skill points gathering in anyway.

I've been wanting to post something here since yesterday when I first read found this topic just haven't had the time to put a post together that didn't make me sound like narrow minded nay sayer regarding this particular suggestion, anyway here goes.

One of the basic mechanics used in any rpg is the concept of making your character grow more powerful (evolve) over time. In eve this evolution mechanic is designed in such a way that is requires very very little interaction between the player and the actual game, it's a simple case of deciding what skill you want to train and dropping it at the top of your skill queue and the rest happens automatically. As with all rpgs there are factors that affect the speed at which this evolution occurs but at the end of the day there is a limit to how many of these skill points can be obtain over a given period of time. The Limit for eve is 2700 skill points per hour which translates to 64800 per day.

Now it seems to me one of the intentions behind the OP's suggestion is to introduce a way to increase this limit above the current maximum based on the amount of time a player spends interacting with the game in a specific way. The only real effect this will have is the number of skill points obtainable on a given day will be 64800 from passive training + whatever is achievable by running missions. If ccp were to agree that the current maximum daily limit is too low they could quite easily just increase the passive hourly gain from 2700 to whatever they feel is more appropriate. Now lets assume ccp know what they are doing and indeed want 64800 to be the maximum achievable in a given day then in order to allow for sp rewards from missions or any other ingame activity they would have to reduce the passive sp gains accordingly. Then it needs to be decided if they want the maximum to be achieved by spending all 23.5 hours the server is online by performing the chosen activity or if they want to allow players to gain the skill points in only a few hours and cap it off at the chosen limit.

At the end of the day each active eve account has the same potential for gaining skill points as every other (old and new alike) and no matter what system is used there will always be a limit to how many skill points one can obtain in any given period of time. The idea of changing the current system to negatively affect people who spend less time per day/week playing eve and create the illusion of benefitting those who play more doesn't really seem to me like it will improve the game in any way.

lol. just... lol. Farmers would become ++ber skilled, and PVP'ers would stay as it was normally + If you want to get EXP, go to another game please.

I've been wanting to post something here since yesterday when I first read found this topic just haven't had the time to put a post together that didn't make me sound like narrow minded nay sayer regarding this particular suggestion, anyway here goes.

One of the basic mechanics used in any rpg is the concept of making your character grow more powerful (evolve) over time. In eve this evolution mechanic is designed in such a way that is requires very very little interaction between the player and the actual game, it's a simple case of deciding what skill you want to train and dropping it at the top of your skill queue and the rest happens automatically. As with all rpgs there are factors that affect the speed at which this evolution occurs but at the end of the day there is a limit to how many of these skill points can be obtain over a given period of time. The Limit for eve is 2700 skill points per hour which translates to 64800 per day.

Now it seems to me one of the intentions behind the OP's suggestion is to introduce a way to increase this limit above the current maximum based on the amount of time a player spends interacting with the game in a specific way. The only real effect this will have is the number of skill points obtainable on a given day will be 64800 from passive training + whatever is achievable by running missions. If ccp were to agree that the current maximum daily limit is too low they could quite easily just increase the passive hourly gain from 2700 to whatever they feel is more appropriate. Now lets assume ccp know what they are doing and indeed want 64800 to be the maximum achievable in a given day then in order to allow for sp rewards from missions or any other ingame activity they would have to reduce the passive sp gains accordingly. Then it needs to be decided if they want the maximum to be achieved by spending all 23.5 hours the server is online by performing the chosen activity or if they want to allow players to gain the skill points in only a few hours and cap it off at the chosen limit.

At the end of the day each active eve account has the same potential for gaining skill points as every other (old and new alike) and no matter what system is used there will always be a limit to how many skill points one can obtain in any given period of time. The idea of changing the current system to negatively affect people who spend less time per day/week playing eve and create the illusion of benefitting those who play more doesn't really seem to me like it will improve the game in any way.

In that case, have a +1 yourself.

Go back to w... wait, don't we still need a fix for low sec? Have them earn tiny amounts of skillpoints by killing rats in low sec belts, awarded by Concord and we soon have more targets than we have scramming points!

Go back to w... wait, don't we still need a fix for low sec? Have them earn tiny amounts of skillpoints by killing rats in low sec belts, awarded by Concord and we soon have more targets than we have scramming points!

.. beating a dead horse ...

To the Original Poster:

I couldn't agree with you more. I tried eve once. Quit because I felt like I was at too much of a disadvantage.

I am trying eve again, and the disadvantage still hurts and the whole making & losing ISK seems quite pointless.

Right now, I intend to give eve one last chance. I'm training for Logistics. I won't be playing for the next 40 days while I'm training for it. If being a logistics pilot doesn't get me into some profitable fleets doing L5s, Incursions, or WHs, then I'm done with eve forever. I'll either try to sell my account for real world money, or just suicide the character.

The thing is, I don't think I'd feel that way if PVE rewarded SP as the OP suggests. Right now, "playing" feels quite pointless, but it wouldn't if there were a SP reward.

Oh well. It'll probably be healthier for me in the long run not to waste my time on this game.

To the Original Poster:

I couldn't agree with you more. I tried eve once. Quit because I felt like I was at too much of a disadvantage.

I am trying eve again, and the disadvantage still hurts and the whole making & losing ISK seems quite pointless.

Right now, I intend to give eve one last chance. I'm training for Logistics. I won't be playing for the next 40 days while I'm training for it. If being a logistics pilot doesn't get me into some profitable fleets doing L5s, Incursions, or WHs, then I'm done with eve forever. I'll either try to sell my account for real world money, or just suicide the character.

The thing is, I don't think I'd feel that way if PVE rewarded SP as the OP suggests. Right now, "playing" feels quite pointless, but it wouldn't if there were a SP reward.

Oh well. It'll probably be healthier for me in the long run not to waste my time on this game.

To the Original Poster:

I couldn't agree with you more. I tried eve once. Quit because I felt like I was at too much of a disadvantage.

I am trying eve again, and the disadvantage still hurts and the whole making & losing ISK seems quite pointless.

Right now, I intend to give eve one last chance. I'm training for Logistics. I won't be playing for the next 40 days while I'm training for it. If being a logistics pilot doesn't get me into some profitable fleets doing L5s, Incursions, or WHs, then I'm done with eve forever. I'll either try to sell my account for real world money, or just suicide the character.

The thing is, I don't think I'd feel that way if PVE rewarded SP as the OP suggests. Right now, "playing" feels quite pointless, but it wouldn't if there were a SP reward.

Oh well. It'll probably be healthier for me in the long run not to waste my time on this game.

why would you necro such a stupid thread!? i'm almost crying right now....

So you are going to train up while not playing and expect to get fleets even though you have no idea what you are doing? ..

The journey is the reward. If you can't see that perhaps it's time to return to the elves.

One can only try. CCP doesnt have to do it like that but with in reason of something like that.. CCP needs to give something other then just ISK and LP To work for... its starting become abit boring now...

why would you necro such a stupid thread!? i'm almost crying right now....