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Treelox
Amarr Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party
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Posted - 2007.12.17 14:05:00 -
[31]
Originally by: Ufl
It is superior.
 I cant think of any reason to trade on any other exchange... unless I wanted to get scammed.
You know I doubt you even knew about the other exchanges until we pointed them out to you in your first threads 3-4weeks ago.
That said, I doubt you have even done any homework to see how they work and how they have not become scamtastic of fraudulent. Granted RESX had a bit a rough time getting started, because it was a one man operation and there were trust issues, but unlike you Ufl, Balogh actually went the distance, answered questions got people to vouch for him. You...you Ufl you just keep throwing what sounds like fluf back in the face of serious questions, keep repeating the party line, a sad joke, and then you wonder why we start in on you like we are now. --
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Ufl
Caldari Nucon
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Posted - 2007.12.17 14:07:00 -
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Originally by: Daeva Vios Edited by: Daeva Vios on 17/12/2007 13:50:11
Originally by: Ufl
I cant think of any reason to trade on any other exchange... unless I wanted to get scammed.
Sign up today to trade securely with insured shares!
Of course, it is only in the best interests of your scam not to think of any reasons. Actually, one of the methods used by scams is to attempt to cast doubt on institutions that have proven themselves reliable, therefore making themselves seem like a better alternative.
I'm sure most everyone here, however, can think of several reasons (aside from the scam part) to use the tried and true exchanges over your scam.
Shall I begin?
You are a sham. You are ignorant. You are insufferably arrogant. You intentionally disregard attempts to assist you. You answer constructive criticism with hostility. You are unknown. You are untrusted by the majority of the market community. You are arrogant (oops, I said that twice huh?)
I hope someone else can add something.
Slander Slander Slander Slander You have no basis. Thank you.
Dont like the NUEX? Go trade on the RSEX or EGSE and get scammed, its not my perogative its yours.
Best Regards Ufl Nucon Stock Exchange [OUR VISION]
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Ufl
Caldari Nucon
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Posted - 2007.12.17 14:08:00 -
[33]
Originally by: Treelox
Originally by: Ufl
It is superior.
 I cant think of any reason to trade on any other exchange... unless I wanted to get scammed.
You know I doubt you even knew about the other exchanges until we pointed them out to you in your first threads 3-4weeks ago.
That said, I doubt you have even done any homework to see how they work and how they have not become scamtastic of fraudulent. Granted RESX had a bit a rough time getting started, because it was a one man operation and there were trust issues, but unlike you Ufl, Balogh actually went the distance, answered questions got people to vouch for him. You...you Ufl you just keep throwing what sounds like fluf back in the face of serious questions, keep repeating the party line, a sad joke, and then you wonder why we start in on you like we are now.
 Or I saw the other exchanges and laughed excessively hard when it said "THEY ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THE STOCK IF ITS A SCAM" Go invest your money there. Its like going to swim in a pool that has a sign that says "MAY CONTAIN ACID, NOT OUR FAULT"
 Best Regards Ufl Nucon Stock Exchange [OUR VISION]
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Daeva Vios
PhaseShifter Technologies Legion of Honor
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Posted - 2007.12.17 14:10:00 -
[34]

Someone should make your face the new Scam warning label.
That'd be too funny.
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LaVista Vista
Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz
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Posted - 2007.12.17 14:11:00 -
[35]
Originally by: Ufl Go trade on the RSEX or EGSE and get scammed, its not my perogative its yours.
This is the worst bull**** i have seen in a loooong time.
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Kylar Renpurs
Dusk Blade
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Posted - 2007.12.17 14:13:00 -
[36]
Edited by: Kylar Renpurs on 17/12/2007 14:13:06
Quote: Or I saw the other exchanges and laughed excessively hard when it said "THEY ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THE STOCK IF ITS A SCAM" Go invest your money there.
So let me get this straight:
Corporation A lists their shares with you. Corporation B purchases 2 million isk worth of shares through you. Corporation A scams the money and runs off.
You will refund the 2 million corporation B spent on the shares? I find that incredibly hard to believe.
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Ufl
Caldari Nucon
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Posted - 2007.12.17 14:15:00 -
[37]
Edited by: Ufl on 17/12/2007 14:16:10 Edited by: Ufl on 17/12/2007 14:15:16
Originally by: Kylar Renpurs Edited by: Kylar Renpurs on 17/12/2007 14:13:06
Quote: Or I saw the other exchanges and laughed excessively hard when it said "THEY ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THE STOCK IF ITS A SCAM" Go invest your money there.
So let me get this straight:
Corporation A lists their shares with you. Corporation B purchases 2 million isk worth of shares through you. Corporation A scams the money and runs off.
You will refund the 2 million corporation B spent on the shares? I find that incredibly hard to believe.
Yes because when Corporation A lists their shares - that CEO - needs to provide collateral to create his share price. It can be 100,000 ISK, 1Mil, 1Bil, whatever he wants versus shares issued to create his price. If he ever tries to run off he loses his collateral... Insurance.
When people buy shares they can decide wether to take the money from sold shares and use it to build the corp or put the money towards the share price, effectively increasing the value.
Essentially we gave Corp A a reason NOT to run off. Best Regards Ufl Nucon Stock Exchange [OUR VISION]
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LaVista Vista
Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz
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Posted - 2007.12.17 14:20:00 -
[38]
Originally by: Ufl Edited by: Ufl on 17/12/2007 14:16:10 Edited by: Ufl on 17/12/2007 14:15:16
Originally by: Kylar Renpurs Edited by: Kylar Renpurs on 17/12/2007 14:13:06
Quote: Or I saw the other exchanges and laughed excessively hard when it said "THEY ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THE STOCK IF ITS A SCAM" Go invest your money there.
So let me get this straight:
Corporation A lists their shares with you. Corporation B purchases 2 million isk worth of shares through you. Corporation A scams the money and runs off.
You will refund the 2 million corporation B spent on the shares? I find that incredibly hard to believe.
Yes because when Corporation A lists their shares - that CEO - needs to provide collateral to create his share price. It can be 100,000 ISK, 1Mil, 1Bil, whatever he wants versus shares issued to create his price. If he ever tries to run off he loses his collateral... Insurance.
When people buy shares they can decide wether to take the money from sold shares and use it to build the corp or put the money towards the share price, effectively increasing the value.
Essentially we gave Corp A a reason NOT to run off.
Tell me. Why would Corp a put up a such security? If corp a already had the isk they ask for trough the IPO, why would they ask for public money? Then they could do it themselfs, and earn all the profit themself instead of paying random people.
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Ray McCormack
hirr
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Posted - 2007.12.17 14:22:00 -
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Originally by: Ufl Essentially we gave Corp A a reason NOT to run off.
And force everyone to place all their trust in you, rather than offer them the ability to spread their risk over multiple CEOs. I've yet to see you respond to this, and have yet to see any evidence of your supposed qualifications in the logic you purport.
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Ufl
Caldari Nucon
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Posted - 2007.12.17 14:24:00 -
[40]
Originally by: LaVista Vista
Originally by: Ufl Edited by: Ufl on 17/12/2007 14:16:10 Edited by: Ufl on 17/12/2007 14:15:16
Originally by: Kylar Renpurs Edited by: Kylar Renpurs on 17/12/2007 14:13:06
Quote: Or I saw the other exchanges and laughed excessively hard when it said "THEY ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THE STOCK IF ITS A SCAM" Go invest your money there.
So let me get this straight:
Corporation A lists their shares with you. Corporation B purchases 2 million isk worth of shares through you. Corporation A scams the money and runs off.
You will refund the 2 million corporation B spent on the shares? I find that incredibly hard to believe.
Yes because when Corporation A lists their shares - that CEO - needs to provide collateral to create his share price. It can be 100,000 ISK, 1Mil, 1Bil, whatever he wants versus shares issued to create his price. If he ever tries to run off he loses his collateral... Insurance.
When people buy shares they can decide wether to take the money from sold shares and use it to build the corp or put the money towards the share price, effectively increasing the value.
Essentially we gave Corp A a reason NOT to run off.
Tell me. Why would Corp a put up a such security? If corp a already had the isk they ask for trough the IPO, why would they ask for public money? Then they could do it themselfs, and earn all the profit themself instead of paying random people.
Why? Because they build share value. Why? Because they attract more investors. Why? Because they will receive more funding. Why? Because their stock will become competitively bought, thus increasing the share price. Why? Because the business plan works only for profit and insures against loss and scam. Why? Because hoarding ISK for yourself wont help you establish more investors.
I put up 1Mil to back NUCO - do I have more than that - of course, far more, but that is what I keep in my personal wallet to generate profit, and of that profit a certain percentage makes it to the NUCO Net Assets to increase share value. Eventually it will create speculation and increase share price naturally while insuring against share price decreases. Best Regards Ufl Nucon Stock Exchange [OUR VISION]
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Ufl
Caldari Nucon
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Posted - 2007.12.17 14:27:00 -
[41]
Originally by: Ray McCormack
Originally by: Ufl Essentially we gave Corp A a reason NOT to run off.
And force everyone to place all their trust in you, rather than offer them the ability to spread their risk over multiple CEOs. I've yet to see you respond to this, and have yet to see any evidence of your supposed qualifications in the logic you purport.
I did respond to this exact concept:
I created the Broker application for a reason, and created a Broker Screen on the website that lets brokers access trades, execute them, etc.
Has anyone stepped up to the plate? No.
No one seems to realize that I will soon need to trust OTHER players to run this for me while I am not awake and other players in other time zones want to trade 24/7.
It would be sad to see in-game recruits become more involved than those here who have already proven they love the market and everything in it.
Best Regards Ufl Nucon Stock Exchange [OUR VISION]
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Treelox
Amarr Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party
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Posted - 2007.12.17 14:32:00 -
[42]
Originally by: Ufl Dont like the NUEX? Go trade on the RSEX or EGSE and get scammed, its not my perogative its yours.
I see you like to engage in slander aswell..... --
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LaVista Vista
Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz
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Posted - 2007.12.17 14:35:00 -
[43]
Originally by: Ufl
Originally by: LaVista Vista
Originally by: Ufl Edited by: Ufl on 17/12/2007 14:16:10 Edited by: Ufl on 17/12/2007 14:15:16
Originally by: Kylar Renpurs Edited by: Kylar Renpurs on 17/12/2007 14:13:06
Quote: Or I saw the other exchanges and laughed excessively hard when it said "THEY ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THE STOCK IF ITS A SCAM" Go invest your money there.
So let me get this straight:
Corporation A lists their shares with you. Corporation B purchases 2 million isk worth of shares through you. Corporation A scams the money and runs off.
You will refund the 2 million corporation B spent on the shares? I find that incredibly hard to believe.
Yes because when Corporation A lists their shares - that CEO - needs to provide collateral to create his share price. It can be 100,000 ISK, 1Mil, 1Bil, whatever he wants versus shares issued to create his price. If he ever tries to run off he loses his collateral... Insurance.
When people buy shares they can decide wether to take the money from sold shares and use it to build the corp or put the money towards the share price, effectively increasing the value.
Essentially we gave Corp A a reason NOT to run off.
Tell me. Why would Corp a put up a such security? If corp a already had the isk they ask for trough the IPO, why would they ask for public money? Then they could do it themselfs, and earn all the profit themself instead of paying random people.
Why? Because they build share value. Why? Because they attract more investors. Why? Because they will receive more funding. Why? Because their stock will become competitively bought, thus increasing the share price. Why? Because the business plan works only for profit and insures against loss and scam. Why? Because hoarding ISK for yourself wont help you establish more investors.
I put up 1Mil to back NUCO - do I have more than that - of course, far more, but that is what I keep in my personal wallet to generate profit, and of that profit a certain percentage makes it to the NUCO Net Assets to increase share value. Eventually it will create speculation and increase share price naturally while insuring against share price decreases.
Neither of the points are relevant or make sense 
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Ufl
Caldari Nucon
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Posted - 2007.12.17 14:35:00 -
[44]
Originally by: Treelox
Originally by: Ufl Dont like the NUEX? Go trade on the RSEX or EGSE and get scammed, its not my perogative its yours.
I see you like to engage in slander aswell.....
 Fact. Best Regards Ufl Nucon Stock Exchange [OUR VISION]
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Treelox
Amarr Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party
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Posted - 2007.12.17 14:37:00 -
[45]
Originally by: Ufl
Originally by: Ray McCormack
Originally by: Ufl Essentially we gave Corp A a reason NOT to run off.
And force everyone to place all their trust in you, rather than offer them the ability to spread their risk over multiple CEOs. I've yet to see you respond to this, and have yet to see any evidence of your supposed qualifications in the logic you purport.
I did respond to this exact concept:
I created the Broker application for a reason, and created a Broker Screen on the website that lets brokers access trades, execute them, etc.
Has anyone stepped up to the plate? No.
No one seems to realize that I will soon need to trust OTHER players to run this for me while I am not awake and other players in other time zones want to trade 24/7.
It would be sad to see in-game recruits become more involved than those here who have already proven they love the market and everything in it.
You realise if you answered Ray's question you might actually get some brokers from "those here who have already proven they love the market and everything in it", ie the MD crowd. It is the continual failure to asnwer this most basic question that keeps causing people to scoff at your business plan. --
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May Shiko
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Posted - 2007.12.17 14:39:00 -
[46]
Originally by: Ufl No one seems to realize that I will soon need to trust OTHER players to run this for me while I am not awake and other players in other time zones want to trade 24/7.
Yet you're against 3rd party audits/security of the collateral you want to collect from the corporations and hold onto.
You do realize how hypocritical this is right?
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Ricdic
Caldari Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz
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Posted - 2007.12.17 14:44:00 -
[47]
Well, at least we can be assured that in the event of a scam by the CEO our isk would be safe. In the event of a scam by U Fail, we lose all our isk, the ceo's lose all their isk, and there are no share tracking abilities.
It's like both isk/corporations/investors never existed.
Frankly I don't know why we keep pushing on with this. Nucon is either a hardcore scam or a corporation founded by someone with serious learning deficiences.
To the point where he is telling people RESX and EGSE will scam whilst he will not, when he will be put in charge of twice as much money per corp (ceo security as well), and he is some no-name alt, is a joke.
I recommended to Hexxx earlier today that he should wash his hands with Nucon, farting into a 2L Coca-Cola bottle would be more constructive as an option at fuel savings when Mad Max comes true.
I now recommend this to everyone else. Feel free to keep the entertainment up but don't waste your time trying to give him the benefit of the doubt as there is nothing left.
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Ufl
Caldari Nucon
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Posted - 2007.12.17 14:45:00 -
[48]
Originally by: May Shiko
Originally by: Ufl No one seems to realize that I will soon need to trust OTHER players to run this for me while I am not awake and other players in other time zones want to trade 24/7.
Yet you're against 3rd party audits/security of the collateral you want to collect from the corporations and hold onto.
You do realize how hypocritical this is right?
Who said I was against 3rd party audits/security.
Im pretty sure in a post I made clear the brokers will "collect collateral" .. Ill go find the quote if I must but I know it is posted.
Again, someone needs to step up to the plate and no one has.
I am disappointed that the Banks do not want to take part in being brokers, since it would be in their best interest. Best Regards Ufl Nucon Stock Exchange [OUR VISION]
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Ufl
Caldari Nucon
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Posted - 2007.12.17 14:46:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Ricdic as there is nothing left.
Or not. Best Regards Ufl Nucon Stock Exchange [OUR VISION]
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Ufl
Caldari Nucon
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Posted - 2007.12.17 14:47:00 -
[50]
Originally by: Ricdic scam by U Fail, we lose all our isk, the ceo's lose all their isk, and there are no share tracking abilities.
SLANDER SLANDER SLANDER NO BASIS THANK YOU. Best Regards Ufl Nucon Stock Exchange [OUR VISION]
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Treelox
Amarr Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party
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Posted - 2007.12.17 14:50:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Ufl
Originally by: Ricdic scam by U Fail, we lose all our isk, the ceo's lose all their isk, and there are no share tracking abilities.
SLANDER SLANDER SLANDER NO BASIS THANK YOU.
ohhh caps...it must be more true1!!!1!! --
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LaVista Vista
Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz
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Posted - 2007.12.17 14:50:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Ufl
Originally by: Ricdic scam by U Fail, we lose all our isk, the ceo's lose all their isk, and there are no share tracking abilities.
SLANDER SLANDER SLANDER NO BASIS THANK YOU.
Nice caps. You have just ruined your own name. Seriously, why dont you give up? At first the fact that you dont just give up at first is amazing. But at this point, its just pretty annoying.
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Ufl
Caldari Nucon
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Posted - 2007.12.17 14:52:00 -
[53]
Edited by: Ufl on 17/12/2007 14:52:43
Originally by: LaVista Vista
Originally by: Ufl
Originally by: Ricdic scam by U Fail, we lose all our isk, the ceo's lose all their isk, and there are no share tracking abilities.
SLANDER SLANDER SLANDER NO BASIS THANK YOU.
Nice caps. You have just ruined your own name. Seriously, why dont you give up? At first the fact that you dont just give up at first is amazing. But at this point, its just pretty annoying.
Give up..?!  Is that what you do when the times get rough? I just got started... If you are already irritated by me then you best get used to it, Ill be here a looong time.
 Best Regards Ufl Nucon Stock Exchange [OUR VISION]
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LaVista Vista
Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz
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Posted - 2007.12.17 14:55:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Ufl Edited by: Ufl on 17/12/2007 14:52:43
Originally by: LaVista Vista
Originally by: Ufl
Originally by: Ricdic scam by U Fail, we lose all our isk, the ceo's lose all their isk, and there are no share tracking abilities.
SLANDER SLANDER SLANDER NO BASIS THANK YOU.
Nice caps. You have just ruined your own name. Seriously, why dont you give up? At first the fact that you dont just give up at first is amazing. But at this point, its just pretty annoying.
Give up..?!  Is that what you do when the times get rough? I just got started... If you are already irritated by me then you best get used to it, Ill be here a looong time.

At least i dont look stupid trying to keep alive 
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Ricdic
Caldari Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz
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Posted - 2007.12.17 15:01:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Ufl
Originally by: Ricdic scam by U Fail, we lose all our isk, the ceo's lose all their isk, and there are no share tracking abilities.
SLANDER SLANDER SLANDER NO BASIS THANK YOU.
Try to quote in context. I advised on a valid issue that can occur, in that you can double scam due to the way you run things. Obviously your response either shows you as incapacitated to respond or you have no idea how to counter.
Just go back to spamming Jita and getting blasted by the locals. Is that really how you want to run your corporation? Will you still be happy to be spamming Jita in 4 months as well?
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Kirjava
Lothian Quay Industries Zzz
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Posted - 2007.12.17 15:08:00 -
[56]
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Kylar Renpurs
Dusk Blade
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Posted - 2007.12.17 15:10:00 -
[57]
Edited by: Kylar Renpurs on 17/12/2007 15:13:52
Quote:
Rolling Eyes Fact.
Ok. Fact. Where is it. Show me that RESX has scammed. I list with them and would be very interested to see this fact.
Do not contact me in game. Post it here. If RESX scams, then I feel everyone should know about it.
EDIT: I said out of game before and meant in-game. It's 2am.
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Dr Slurm
General Commodities
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Posted - 2007.12.17 15:11:00 -
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Edited by: Dr Slurm on 17/12/2007 15:11:41 this is getting pretty pathetic.
It doesn't really surprise me the OP has resorted to libeling the other exchanges in an effort to make his own attempt look better.
For the record this is all libel, slander is spoken.
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Ufl
Caldari Nucon
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Posted - 2007.12.17 15:15:00 -
[59]
Originally by: LaVista Vista
Originally by: Ufl Edited by: Ufl on 17/12/2007 14:52:43
Originally by: LaVista Vista
Originally by: Ufl
Originally by: Ricdic scam by U Fail, we lose all our isk, the ceo's lose all their isk, and there are no share tracking abilities.
SLANDER SLANDER SLANDER NO BASIS THANK YOU.
Nice caps. You have just ruined your own name. Seriously, why dont you give up? At first the fact that you dont just give up at first is amazing. But at this point, its just pretty annoying.
Give up..?!  Is that what you do when the times get rough? I just got started... If you are already irritated by me then you best get used to it, Ill be here a looong time.

At least i dont look stupid trying to keep alive 
Look stupid? You truly care about how things "look?" Enjoy your life for it will be quite fruitless. Best Regards Ufl Nucon Stock Exchange [OUR VISION]
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LaVista Vista
Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz
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Posted - 2007.12.17 15:19:00 -
[60]
Originally by: Ufl
Originally by: LaVista Vista
Originally by: Ufl Edited by: Ufl on 17/12/2007 14:52:43
Originally by: LaVista Vista
Originally by: Ufl
Originally by: Ricdic scam by U Fail, we lose all our isk, the ceo's lose all their isk, and there are no share tracking abilities.
SLANDER SLANDER SLANDER NO BASIS THANK YOU.
Nice caps. You have just ruined your own name. Seriously, why dont you give up? At first the fact that you dont just give up at first is amazing. But at this point, its just pretty annoying.
Give up..?!  Is that what you do when the times get rough? I just got started... If you are already irritated by me then you best get used to it, Ill be here a looong time.

At least i dont look stupid trying to keep alive 
Look stupid? You truly care about how things "look?" Enjoy your life for it will be quite fruitless.
Despite some others, yes. And everybody will tell you, if your business doesnt look good, it will fail.  Thats why New con is failing you see. It looks terrible, and the person behind it makes the corp looks even worse.
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