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Ufl Caldari Nucon	Posted - 2007.12.17 05:25:00 - [1] http://www.NuconCorporation.com 2 New Corporations are preparing to launch IPO's on Dec. 17th 2007 There are 2 new CEO's who have joined the beginning of the NUEX BETA test and have decided to list their Corporations today, Dec. 17th 2007. Both CEO's have agreed to the NUEX Terms & Conditions, and NUEX Standards, and will provide 100% collateral. There are currently another 2 CEO's registered as wanting to apply for a corporate listing though have not acted upon them yet. All IPO and News information will be available one the NEWSWIRE. Sign up on website to have your accounts activated for live trading within 12-48 hours. We are currently allowing another 20 BETA Accounts before the official launch of the NUEX on Dec. 20th 2007. In other news our Google ranking has climbed an astonishing 4 pages - we are currently searchable on the first page by searching for "Eve Stock Exchange." Our goal is to reach the #1 Google Rank by Feb. 30th 2008, for "Eve Stock Exchange" "Eve Online Corporation" and "Eve Corporation" Best Regards Ufl Nucon Stock Exchange [OUR VISION]
Shar Tegral	Posted - 2007.12.17 05:30:00 - [2] Good luck. Latest Scammer Alert
Treelox Amarr Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party	Posted - 2007.12.17 05:35:00 - [3] Any plans on these 2 CEO's coming here to acknowledge this statement? Otherwise your post here is just hollow propoganda. As to your placement on googles search page, do you really want to start a spamming war with the other exchanges to see who wins? If you really want to be top of a search engine that has real meaning to the eve community, might I suggest contacting Chribba and offering him some of that veldspar you hold as collateral in exchange for some of his community sites that maybe 20% of the eve player base uses in some fashion or another? Anyways, good going on another mental masterbatory post about your goggleness. I know it feels good, since the "Treelox" listed on the first 10page of goggle is me (/me flexs his mightness). --
Treelox Amarr Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party	Posted - 2007.12.17 05:36:00 - [4] hmmm...i just realised something, Ufl's ego is so big with self importance, he most likely doesnt even know who Chribba is. --
Balogh Gallente Real-time EVE Stock Exchange	Posted - 2007.12.17 07:55:00 - [5] Originally by: Ufl [i]In other news our Google ranking has climbed an astonishing 4 pages - we are currently searchable on the first page by searching for "Eve Stock Exchange." I'm sorry, but this is not true. Disregarding results from the same site, a Google search for eve stock exchange returns the following results: 1. EVE Forums 2. RESX 3. EGSE 12. NUCON Note that I do not include quotes in the search query. Using quotes searches for pages containing the exact phrase, instead of pages containing all words in any order. ________________ Real-time EVE Stock Exchange, Blog Feature request: Share transfer log
Riethe	Posted - 2007.12.17 08:01:00 - [6] He said first page, not first result. It is true. You fail at reading comprehension.
Ray McCormack hirr	Posted - 2007.12.17 08:03:00 - [7] Name and shame, or it didn't happen. Ask me about Secured ISK Loans from the BMBE.
Balogh Gallente Real-time EVE Stock Exchange	Posted - 2007.12.17 08:06:00 - [8] Originally by: Riethe He said first page, not first result. It is true. You fail at reading comprehension. Google shows 10 results per page. As 12 is larger than 10, it's not shown at the first page. ________________ Real-time EVE Stock Exchange, Blog Feature request: Share transfer log
Ray McCormack hirr	Posted - 2007.12.17 08:08:00 - [9] Originally by: Balogh Originally by: Riethe He said first page, not first result. It is true. You fail at reading comprehension. Google shows 10 results per page. As 12 is larger than 10, it's not shown at the first page. Pwned. Riethe, instead of trying to be such an arse all the time, start thinking before you post. Often you post sense, but your attitude stinks. Ask me about Secured ISK Loans from the BMBE.
Riethe	Posted - 2007.12.17 08:15:00 - [10] I only present an attitude when other's do as well. It's only in response to his attempt to discredit this person. Also, I didn't make my post without checking google results myself. I have "Nucon Corporation - EVE Online Stock Exchange" On the first page of the same google search that Balogh posted. However, it's important to note that google's search engine actually determines results based on location. How exactly? No clue, but it's entirely possible that balogh is either 1) running an extension that modifies his google output or 2) is in a location that simply doesn't have the same results as myself or Ufl.
Balogh Gallente Real-time EVE Stock Exchange	Posted - 2007.12.17 08:21:00 - [11] Originally by: Riethe However, it's important to note that google's search engine actually determines results based on location. How exactly? No clue, but it's entirely possible that balogh is either 1) running an extension that modifies his google output or 2) is in a location that simply doesn't have the same results as myself or Ufl. I believe that if you use Google's search history feature, Google ranks frequently visited sites higher. I have attempted to disable this feature by logging out before performing said search query. ________________ Real-time EVE Stock Exchange, Blog Feature request: Share transfer log
Balogh Gallente Real-time EVE Stock Exchange	Posted - 2007.12.17 08:24:00 - [12] Since we're going the screenshot route: http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/3552/picture1qw5.png ________________ Real-time EVE Stock Exchange, Blog Feature request: Share transfer log
Riethe	Posted - 2007.12.17 08:24:00 - [13] I'm logged out as well, still getting it on the first page. Like I said, depending on your region it's ultimately subjective. Though Ufl probably had no knowledge of that and trying to discredit him on such a silly claim is just unfair. I see it on the first page just as he does, and many others do as well. It's also entirely possible that many people do not.
Motivated Prophet Zerodot Schools Power Corrupts Industry's	Posted - 2007.12.17 08:40:00 - [14] How cute! It's almost as though Ufl thinks he's a real stock exchange. Aren't you just a pwecious wittle thing, yes you are! MP -- Proud steward of 47 billion isk in public money, and counting. Ask me about mineral ~~compression~~expansion! WTF?
Shinhan Phoenix Knights Dark Nebula Galactic Empire	Posted - 2007.12.17 08:44:00 - [15] Originally by: Balogh Originally by: Riethe He said first page, not first result. It is true. You fail at reading comprehension. Google shows 10 results per page. As 12 is larger than 10, it's not shown at the first page. -- Selling apples, 1 signature each. ѼѼѼѼѼѼѼ
Riethe	Posted - 2007.12.17 08:55:00 - [16] Originally by: Shinhan Originally by: Balogh Originally by: Riethe He said first page, not first result. It is true. You fail at reading comprehension. Google shows 10 results per page. As 12 is larger than 10, it's not shown at the first page.
Ambo 2nd Outcasters	Posted - 2007.12.17 09:30:00 - [17] Ignoring the page ranking thing for a min. Where are these CEOs? What are thier business plans? I find it very strange that anyone would launch an IPO without posting at least somthing about it in here. I wish you luck with this but your arrogance and stuborn refusal to answer straight questions or listen to advice have seriously damaged what little credibility you had. -------------------------------------- Trader? Investor? Just want to track your finances? Check out EMMA
Shinhan Phoenix Knights Dark Nebula Galactic Empire	Posted - 2007.12.17 10:00:00 - [18] Originally by: Ambo Where are these CEOs? What are thier business plans? His target audience is people who dont even know Market Discussion forum exists. They wont even think to come here, and Ufl will of course not direct them here as it would be counter productive. Why do I think that? Because people who know about MD will come here before doing an IPO or investing and do some background research. After which they will of course find out what is the NUEX definition of "secured". define:secured -- Selling apples, 1 signature each. ѼѼѼѼѼѼѼ
LaVista Vista Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz	Posted - 2007.12.17 10:10:00 - [19] Hi Ufail. Im extremely interested in the your corporation, new con. Where can i sign up for your newsletter? Also, where do i invest my monies? I have maybe 65 bill to invest. Is that something you would be interested in? Best Regards New Cons biggest fan LaVista Vista This signature is brought to you by EBankÖ, free space for moderators to brag.
Kirjava Lothian Quay Industries Zzz	Posted - 2007.12.17 10:41:00 - [20] /me is confused What does UFL do and why should investors invest in him? Actualy, afaik - what makes hum better than selling directly through these forums (which I did) or through a different broker? ~Nyron
Daeva Vios PhaseShifter Technologies Legion of Honor	Posted - 2007.12.17 11:29:00 - [21] Originally by: Kirjava /me is confused What does UFL do and why should investors invest in him? Actualy, afaik - what makes hum better than selling directly through these forums (which I did) or through a different broker? 1) Ufl draws individuals with insufficient knowledge of the EVE economy into an arrangement where he "manages" their shares and ostensibly provides some form of security, to "improve their reputation" by giving them a way to get their name out. 2) What makes him better is that he is among them and not among us, I guess, exploiting the outmoded "us vs them" mindset among many newbies and otherwise clueless (not intended as derogatory) groups among the EVE populace. He is taking advantage of ignorance and displaying his own, proud as a peacock. I've wasted more time on this than I intended to.
Ricdic Caldari Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz	Posted - 2007.12.17 12:15:00 - [22] My favourite part is where he shows up out of nowhere and completely ignores the two existing stock exchanges and when hearing about them discredits them explaining how much more superior his is. Balogh made a bit of a stab at him in this or another thread and frankly I think it was more than acceptable. I too would be pretty annoyed if some stranger came into my backyard and told me how to mow my lawns. http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=500043 Largest Empire Research Alliance in EVE!
Kirjava Lothian Quay Industries Zzz	Posted - 2007.12.17 13:17:00 - [23] Okay I will bite - who are these 2 CEO's that actualy sighned up for this? ~Nyron
Astorothe Aperture Science Industries	Posted - 2007.12.17 13:25:00 - [24] Edited by: Astorothe on 17/12/2007 13:25:27 Hi Ufl. It will be interesting - to say the least - to see how this unwinds over the course of a few months. Any chance of getting the CEOs to post here for information's sake? Could go a long way to establishing third-party credibility if they are already established/trusted CEOs. Sincerely, (edit - freaking typos - its late here) Eve Corp & Fansite Web design, development and hosting services for ISK - contact me in game
Ufl Caldari Nucon	Posted - 2007.12.17 13:34:00 - [25] I believe this answers most questions: All IPO and News information will be available one the NEWSWIRE. If the CEO's decide to post here that is their business, we have our own IPO center. Best Regards Ufl Nucon Stock Exchange [OUR VISION]
Ufl Caldari Nucon	Posted - 2007.12.17 13:36:00 - [26] Originally by: Ricdic My favourite part is where he shows up out of nowhere and completely ignores the two existing stock exchanges and when hearing about them discredits them explaining how much more superior his is. It is superior. I cant think of any reason to trade on any other exchange... Sing up today to trade securely with insured shares! Best Regards Ufl Nucon Stock Exchange [OUR VISION]
Astorothe Aperture Science Industries	Posted - 2007.12.17 13:43:00 - [27] Originally by: Ufl Edited by: Ufl on 17/12/2007 13:36:25 I believe this answers most questions: All IPO and News information will be available one the NEWSWIRE. If the CEO's decide to post here that is their business, we have our own IPO center for a reason. Thanks for the response. Unfortunately by posting only on your forums, we can't verify the identities. But I appreciate that its not for you to force them to post here. Just saying it would have gone a long way. Cheers. CEO Aperture Science Industries Eve Corp Web design, development and hosting services for ISK - contact me in game
Daeva Vios PhaseShifter Technologies Legion of Honor	Posted - 2007.12.17 13:43:00 - [28] Originally by: Ufl I cant think of any reason to trade on any other exchange... unless I wanted to get scammed. Sign up today to trade securely with insured shares! Of course, it is only in the best interests of your scam not to think of any reasons. I'm sure most everyone here, however, can think of several. Shall I begin? You are a sham. You are ignorant. You are insufferably arrogant. You intentionally disregard attempts to assist you. You answer constructive criticism with hostility. You are unknown. You are untrusted by the majority of the market community. You are arrogant (oops, I said that twice huh?) I hope someone else can add something.
Hexxx Minmatar	Posted - 2007.12.17 13:43:00 - [29] Originally by: Ufl Edited by: Ufl on 17/12/2007 13:36:25 I believe this answers most questions: All IPO and News information will be available one the NEWSWIRE. If the CEO's decide to post here that is their business, we have our own IPO center for a reason. No, it doesn't answer the question and you know that very well. There is ONE Corp listed on your exchange right now and that's yours. There is no second, and frankly...passing your IPO off as one of the "two" is a little erroneous. Consulting, IPO Template, and Stock/Bond definitions.
LaVista Vista Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz	Posted - 2007.12.17 13:51:00 - [30] Originally by: LaVista Vista Hi Ufail. Im extremely interested in the your corporation, new con. Where can i sign up for your newsletter? Also, where do i invest my monies? I have maybe 65 bill to invest. Is that something you would be interested in? Best Regards New Cons biggest fan LaVista Vista Ufail, im extremely excited about your answer. I appreciate it very much. We just need to finish the last details, and ill invest the 65bill. Thanks for the business LaVista Vista This signature is brought to you by EBankÖ, free space for moderators to brag.
Treelox Amarr Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party	Posted - 2007.12.17 14:05:00 - [31] Originally by: Ufl It is superior. I cant think of any reason to trade on any other exchange... unless I wanted to get scammed. You know I doubt you even knew about the other exchanges until we pointed them out to you in your first threads 3-4weeks ago. That said, I doubt you have even done any homework to see how they work and how they have not become scamtastic of fraudulent. Granted RESX had a bit a rough time getting started, because it was a one man operation and there were trust issues, but unlike you Ufl, Balogh actually went the distance, answered questions got people to vouch for him. You...you Ufl you just keep throwing what sounds like fluf back in the face of serious questions, keep repeating the party line, a sad joke, and then you wonder why we start in on you like we are now. --
Ufl Caldari Nucon	Posted - 2007.12.17 14:07:00 - [32] Originally by: Daeva Vios Edited by: Daeva Vios on 17/12/2007 13:50:11 Originally by: Ufl I cant think of any reason to trade on any other exchange... unless I wanted to get scammed. Sign up today to trade securely with insured shares! Of course, it is only in the best interests of your scam not to think of any reasons. Actually, one of the methods used by scams is to attempt to cast doubt on institutions that have proven themselves reliable, therefore making themselves seem like a better alternative. I'm sure most everyone here, however, can think of several reasons (aside from the scam part) to use the tried and true exchanges over your scam. Shall I begin? You are a sham. You are ignorant. You are insufferably arrogant. You intentionally disregard attempts to assist you. You answer constructive criticism with hostility. You are unknown. You are untrusted by the majority of the market community. You are arrogant (oops, I said that twice huh?) I hope someone else can add something. Slander Slander Slander Slander You have no basis. Thank you. Dont like the NUEX? Go trade on the RSEX or EGSE and get scammed, its not my perogative its yours. Best Regards Ufl Nucon Stock Exchange [OUR VISION]
Ufl Caldari Nucon	Posted - 2007.12.17 14:08:00 - [33] Originally by: Treelox Originally by: Ufl It is superior. I cant think of any reason to trade on any other exchange... unless I wanted to get scammed. You know I doubt you even knew about the other exchanges until we pointed them out to you in your first threads 3-4weeks ago. That said, I doubt you have even done any homework to see how they work and how they have not become scamtastic of fraudulent. Granted RESX had a bit a rough time getting started, because it was a one man operation and there were trust issues, but unlike you Ufl, Balogh actually went the distance, answered questions got people to vouch for him. You...you Ufl you just keep throwing what sounds like fluf back in the face of serious questions, keep repeating the party line, a sad joke, and then you wonder why we start in on you like we are now. Or I saw the other exchanges and laughed excessively hard when it said "THEY ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THE STOCK IF ITS A SCAM" Go invest your money there. Its like going to swim in a pool that has a sign that says "MAY CONTAIN ACID, NOT OUR FAULT" Best Regards Ufl Nucon Stock Exchange [OUR VISION]
Daeva Vios PhaseShifter Technologies Legion of Honor	Posted - 2007.12.17 14:10:00 - [34] Someone should make your face the new Scam warning label. That'd be too funny.
LaVista Vista Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz	Posted - 2007.12.17 14:11:00 - [35] Originally by: Ufl Go trade on the RSEX or EGSE and get scammed, its not my perogative its yours. This is the worst bull**** i have seen in a loooong time. This signature is brought to you by EBankÖ, free space for moderators to brag.
Kylar Renpurs Dusk Blade	Posted - 2007.12.17 14:13:00 - [36] Edited by: Kylar Renpurs on 17/12/2007 14:13:06 Quote: Or I saw the other exchanges and laughed excessively hard when it said "THEY ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THE STOCK IF ITS A SCAM" Go invest your money there. So let me get this straight: Corporation A lists their shares with you. Corporation B purchases 2 million isk worth of shares through you. Corporation A scams the money and runs off. You will refund the 2 million corporation B spent on the shares? I find that incredibly hard to believe. Improve Market Competition!
Ufl Caldari Nucon	Posted - 2007.12.17 14:15:00 - [37] Edited by: Ufl on 17/12/2007 14:16:10 Edited by: Ufl on 17/12/2007 14:15:16 Originally by: Kylar Renpurs Edited by: Kylar Renpurs on 17/12/2007 14:13:06 Quote: Or I saw the other exchanges and laughed excessively hard when it said "THEY ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THE STOCK IF ITS A SCAM" Go invest your money there. So let me get this straight: Corporation A lists their shares with you. Corporation B purchases 2 million isk worth of shares through you. Corporation A scams the money and runs off. You will refund the 2 million corporation B spent on the shares? I find that incredibly hard to believe. Yes because when Corporation A lists their shares - that CEO - needs to provide collateral to create his share price. It can be 100,000 ISK, 1Mil, 1Bil, whatever he wants versus shares issued to create his price. If he ever tries to run off he loses his collateral... Insurance. When people buy shares they can decide wether to take the money from sold shares and use it to build the corp or put the money towards the share price, effectively increasing the value. Essentially we gave Corp A a reason NOT to run off. Best Regards Ufl Nucon Stock Exchange [OUR VISION]
LaVista Vista Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz	Posted - 2007.12.17 14:20:00 - [38] Originally by: Ufl Edited by: Ufl on 17/12/2007 14:16:10 Edited by: Ufl on 17/12/2007 14:15:16 Originally by: Kylar Renpurs Edited by: Kylar Renpurs on 17/12/2007 14:13:06 Quote: Or I saw the other exchanges and laughed excessively hard when it said "THEY ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THE STOCK IF ITS A SCAM" Go invest your money there. So let me get this straight: Corporation A lists their shares with you. Corporation B purchases 2 million isk worth of shares through you. Corporation A scams the money and runs off. You will refund the 2 million corporation B spent on the shares? I find that incredibly hard to believe. Yes because when Corporation A lists their shares - that CEO - needs to provide collateral to create his share price. It can be 100,000 ISK, 1Mil, 1Bil, whatever he wants versus shares issued to create his price. If he ever tries to run off he loses his collateral... Insurance. When people buy shares they can decide wether to take the money from sold shares and use it to build the corp or put the money towards the share price, effectively increasing the value. Essentially we gave Corp A a reason NOT to run off. Tell me. Why would Corp a put up a such security? If corp a already had the isk they ask for trough the IPO, why would they ask for public money? Then they could do it themselfs, and earn all the profit themself instead of paying random people. This signature is brought to you by EBankÖ, free space for moderators to brag.
Ray McCormack hirr	Posted - 2007.12.17 14:22:00 - [39] Originally by: Ufl Essentially we gave Corp A a reason NOT to run off. And force everyone to place all their trust in you, rather than offer them the ability to spread their risk over multiple CEOs. I've yet to see you respond to this, and have yet to see any evidence of your supposed qualifications in the logic you purport. Ask me about Secured ISK Loans from the BMBE.
Ufl Caldari Nucon	Posted - 2007.12.17 14:24:00 - [40] Originally by: LaVista Vista Originally by: Ufl Edited by: Ufl on 17/12/2007 14:16:10 Edited by: Ufl on 17/12/2007 14:15:16 Originally by: Kylar Renpurs Edited by: Kylar Renpurs on 17/12/2007 14:13:06 Quote: Or I saw the other exchanges and laughed excessively hard when it said "THEY ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THE STOCK IF ITS A SCAM" Go invest your money there. So let me get this straight: Corporation A lists their shares with you. Corporation B purchases 2 million isk worth of shares through you. Corporation A scams the money and runs off. You will refund the 2 million corporation B spent on the shares? I find that incredibly hard to believe. Yes because when Corporation A lists their shares - that CEO - needs to provide collateral to create his share price. It can be 100,000 ISK, 1Mil, 1Bil, whatever he wants versus shares issued to create his price. If he ever tries to run off he loses his collateral... Insurance. When people buy shares they can decide wether to take the money from sold shares and use it to build the corp or put the money towards the share price, effectively increasing the value. Essentially we gave Corp A a reason NOT to run off. Tell me. Why would Corp a put up a such security? If corp a already had the isk they ask for trough the IPO, why would they ask for public money? Then they could do it themselfs, and earn all the profit themself instead of paying random people. Why? Because they build share value. Why? Because they attract more investors. Why? Because they will receive more funding. Why? Because their stock will become competitively bought, thus increasing the share price. Why? Because the business plan works only for profit and insures against loss and scam. Why? Because hoarding ISK for yourself wont help you establish more investors. I put up 1Mil to back NUCO - do I have more than that - of course, far more, but that is what I keep in my personal wallet to generate profit, and of that profit a certain percentage makes it to the NUCO Net Assets to increase share value. Eventually it will create speculation and increase share price naturally while insuring against share price decreases. Best Regards Ufl Nucon Stock Exchange [OUR VISION]
Ufl Caldari Nucon	Posted - 2007.12.17 14:27:00 - [41] Originally by: Ray McCormack Originally by: Ufl Essentially we gave Corp A a reason NOT to run off. And force everyone to place all their trust in you, rather than offer them the ability to spread their risk over multiple CEOs. I've yet to see you respond to this, and have yet to see any evidence of your supposed qualifications in the logic you purport. I did respond to this exact concept: I created the Broker application for a reason, and created a Broker Screen on the website that lets brokers access trades, execute them, etc. Has anyone stepped up to the plate? No. No one seems to realize that I will soon need to trust OTHER players to run this for me while I am not awake and other players in other time zones want to trade 24/7. It would be sad to see in-game recruits become more involved than those here who have already proven they love the market and everything in it. Best Regards Ufl Nucon Stock Exchange [OUR VISION]
Treelox Amarr Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party	Posted - 2007.12.17 14:32:00 - [42] Originally by: Ufl Dont like the NUEX? Go trade on the RSEX or EGSE and get scammed, its not my perogative its yours. I see you like to engage in slander aswell..... --
LaVista Vista Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz	Posted - 2007.12.17 14:35:00 - [43] Originally by: Ufl Originally by: LaVista Vista Originally by: Ufl Edited by: Ufl on 17/12/2007 14:16:10 Edited by: Ufl on 17/12/2007 14:15:16 Originally by: Kylar Renpurs Edited by: Kylar Renpurs on 17/12/2007 14:13:06 Quote: Or I saw the other exchanges and laughed excessively hard when it said "THEY ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THE STOCK IF ITS A SCAM" Go invest your money there. So let me get this straight: Corporation A lists their shares with you. Corporation B purchases 2 million isk worth of shares through you. Corporation A scams the money and runs off. You will refund the 2 million corporation B spent on the shares? I find that incredibly hard to believe. Yes because when Corporation A lists their shares - that CEO - needs to provide collateral to create his share price. It can be 100,000 ISK, 1Mil, 1Bil, whatever he wants versus shares issued to create his price. If he ever tries to run off he loses his collateral... Insurance. When people buy shares they can decide wether to take the money from sold shares and use it to build the corp or put the money towards the share price, effectively increasing the value. Essentially we gave Corp A a reason NOT to run off. Tell me. Why would Corp a put up a such security? If corp a already had the isk they ask for trough the IPO, why would they ask for public money? Then they could do it themselfs, and earn all the profit themself instead of paying random people. Why? Because they build share value. Why? Because they attract more investors. Why? Because they will receive more funding. Why? Because their stock will become competitively bought, thus increasing the share price. Why? Because the business plan works only for profit and insures against loss and scam. Why? Because hoarding ISK for yourself wont help you establish more investors. I put up 1Mil to back NUCO - do I have more than that - of course, far more, but that is what I keep in my personal wallet to generate profit, and of that profit a certain percentage makes it to the NUCO Net Assets to increase share value. Eventually it will create speculation and increase share price naturally while insuring against share price decreases. Neither of the points are relevant or make sense This signature is brought to you by EBankÖ, free space for moderators to brag.
Ufl Caldari Nucon	Posted - 2007.12.17 14:35:00 - [44] Originally by: Treelox Originally by: Ufl Dont like the NUEX? Go trade on the RSEX or EGSE and get scammed, its not my perogative its yours. I see you like to engage in slander aswell..... Fact. Best Regards Ufl Nucon Stock Exchange [OUR VISION]
Treelox Amarr Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party	Posted - 2007.12.17 14:37:00 - [45] Originally by: Ufl Originally by: Ray McCormack Originally by: Ufl Essentially we gave Corp A a reason NOT to run off. And force everyone to place all their trust in you, rather than offer them the ability to spread their risk over multiple CEOs. I've yet to see you respond to this, and have yet to see any evidence of your supposed qualifications in the logic you purport. I did respond to this exact concept: I created the Broker application for a reason, and created a Broker Screen on the website that lets brokers access trades, execute them, etc. Has anyone stepped up to the plate? No. No one seems to realize that I will soon need to trust OTHER players to run this for me while I am not awake and other players in other time zones want to trade 24/7. It would be sad to see in-game recruits become more involved than those here who have already proven they love the market and everything in it. You realise if you answered Ray's question you might actually get some brokers from "those here who have already proven they love the market and everything in it", ie the MD crowd. It is the continual failure to asnwer this most basic question that keeps causing people to scoff at your business plan. --
May Shiko	Posted - 2007.12.17 14:39:00 - [46] Originally by: Ufl No one seems to realize that I will soon need to trust OTHER players to run this for me while I am not awake and other players in other time zones want to trade 24/7. Yet you're against 3rd party audits/security of the collateral you want to collect from the corporations and hold onto. You do realize how hypocritical this is right?
Ricdic Caldari Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz	Posted - 2007.12.17 14:44:00 - [47] Well, at least we can be assured that in the event of a scam by the CEO our isk would be safe. In the event of a scam by U Fail, we lose all our isk, the ceo's lose all their isk, and there are no share tracking abilities. It's like both isk/corporations/investors never existed. Frankly I don't know why we keep pushing on with this. Nucon is either a hardcore scam or a corporation founded by someone with serious learning deficiences. To the point where he is telling people RESX and EGSE will scam whilst he will not, when he will be put in charge of twice as much money per corp (ceo security as well), and he is some no-name alt, is a joke. I recommended to Hexxx earlier today that he should wash his hands with Nucon, farting into a 2L Coca-Cola bottle would be more constructive as an option at fuel savings when Mad Max comes true. I now recommend this to everyone else. Feel free to keep the entertainment up but don't waste your time trying to give him the benefit of the doubt as there is nothing left. http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=500043 Largest Empire Research Alliance in EVE!
Ufl Caldari Nucon	Posted - 2007.12.17 14:45:00 - [48] Originally by: May Shiko Originally by: Ufl No one seems to realize that I will soon need to trust OTHER players to run this for me while I am not awake and other players in other time zones want to trade 24/7. Yet you're against 3rd party audits/security of the collateral you want to collect from the corporations and hold onto. You do realize how hypocritical this is right? Who said I was against 3rd party audits/security. Im pretty sure in a post I made clear the brokers will "collect collateral" .. Ill go find the quote if I must but I know it is posted. Again, someone needs to step up to the plate and no one has. I am disappointed that the Banks do not want to take part in being brokers, since it would be in their best interest. Best Regards Ufl Nucon Stock Exchange [OUR VISION]
Ufl Caldari Nucon	Posted - 2007.12.17 14:46:00 - [49] Originally by: Ricdic as there is nothing left. Or not. Best Regards Ufl Nucon Stock Exchange [OUR VISION]
Ufl Caldari Nucon	Posted - 2007.12.17 14:47:00 - [50] Originally by: Ricdic scam by U Fail, we lose all our isk, the ceo's lose all their isk, and there are no share tracking abilities. SLANDER SLANDER SLANDER NO BASIS THANK YOU. Best Regards Ufl Nucon Stock Exchange [OUR VISION]
Treelox Amarr Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party	Posted - 2007.12.17 14:50:00 - [51] Originally by: Ufl Originally by: Ricdic scam by U Fail, we lose all our isk, the ceo's lose all their isk, and there are no share tracking abilities. SLANDER SLANDER SLANDER NO BASIS THANK YOU. ohhh caps...it must be more true1!!!1!! --
LaVista Vista Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz	Posted - 2007.12.17 14:50:00 - [52] Originally by: Ufl Originally by: Ricdic scam by U Fail, we lose all our isk, the ceo's lose all their isk, and there are no share tracking abilities. SLANDER SLANDER SLANDER NO BASIS THANK YOU. Nice caps. You have just ruined your own name. Seriously, why dont you give up? At first the fact that you dont just give up at first is amazing. But at this point, its just pretty annoying. This signature is brought to you by EBankÖ, free space for moderators to brag.
Ufl Caldari Nucon	Posted - 2007.12.17 14:52:00 - [53] Edited by: Ufl on 17/12/2007 14:52:43 Originally by: LaVista Vista Originally by: Ufl Originally by: Ricdic scam by U Fail, we lose all our isk, the ceo's lose all their isk, and there are no share tracking abilities. SLANDER SLANDER SLANDER NO BASIS THANK YOU. Nice caps. You have just ruined your own name. Seriously, why dont you give up? At first the fact that you dont just give up at first is amazing. But at this point, its just pretty annoying. Give up..?! Is that what you do when the times get rough? I just got started... If you are already irritated by me then you best get used to it, Ill be here a looong time. Best Regards Ufl Nucon Stock Exchange [OUR VISION]
LaVista Vista Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz	Posted - 2007.12.17 14:55:00 - [54] Originally by: Ufl Edited by: Ufl on 17/12/2007 14:52:43 Originally by: LaVista Vista Originally by: Ufl Originally by: Ricdic scam by U Fail, we lose all our isk, the ceo's lose all their isk, and there are no share tracking abilities. SLANDER SLANDER SLANDER NO BASIS THANK YOU. Nice caps. You have just ruined your own name. Seriously, why dont you give up? At first the fact that you dont just give up at first is amazing. But at this point, its just pretty annoying. Give up..?! Is that what you do when the times get rough? I just got started... If you are already irritated by me then you best get used to it, Ill be here a looong time. At least i dont look stupid trying to keep alive This signature is brought to you by EBankÖ, free space for moderators to brag.
Ricdic Caldari Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz	Posted - 2007.12.17 15:01:00 - [55] Originally by: Ufl Originally by: Ricdic scam by U Fail, we lose all our isk, the ceo's lose all their isk, and there are no share tracking abilities. SLANDER SLANDER SLANDER NO BASIS THANK YOU. Try to quote in context. I advised on a valid issue that can occur, in that you can double scam due to the way you run things. Obviously your response either shows you as incapacitated to respond or you have no idea how to counter. Just go back to spamming Jita and getting blasted by the locals. Is that really how you want to run your corporation? Will you still be happy to be spamming Jita in 4 months as well? http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=500043 Largest Empire Research Alliance in EVE!
Kirjava Lothian Quay Industries Zzz	Posted - 2007.12.17 15:08:00 - [56] ~Nyron
Kylar Renpurs Dusk Blade	Posted - 2007.12.17 15:10:00 - [57] Edited by: Kylar Renpurs on 17/12/2007 15:13:52 Quote: Rolling Eyes Fact. Ok. Fact. Where is it. Show me that RESX has scammed. I list with them and would be very interested to see this fact. Do not contact me in game. Post it here. If RESX scams, then I feel everyone should know about it. EDIT: I said out of game before and meant in-game. It's 2am. Improve Market Competition!
Dr Slurm General Commodities	Posted - 2007.12.17 15:11:00 - [58] Edited by: Dr Slurm on 17/12/2007 15:11:41 this is getting pretty pathetic. It doesn't really surprise me the OP has resorted to libeling the other exchanges in an effort to make his own attempt look better. For the record this is all libel, slander is spoken. It's better then Quafe!
Ufl Caldari Nucon	Posted - 2007.12.17 15:15:00 - [59] Originally by: LaVista Vista Originally by: Ufl Edited by: Ufl on 17/12/2007 14:52:43 Originally by: LaVista Vista Originally by: Ufl Originally by: Ricdic scam by U Fail, we lose all our isk, the ceo's lose all their isk, and there are no share tracking abilities. SLANDER SLANDER SLANDER NO BASIS THANK YOU. Nice caps. You have just ruined your own name. Seriously, why dont you give up? At first the fact that you dont just give up at first is amazing. But at this point, its just pretty annoying. Give up..?! Is that what you do when the times get rough? I just got started... If you are already irritated by me then you best get used to it, Ill be here a looong time. At least i dont look stupid trying to keep alive Look stupid? You truly care about how things "look?" Enjoy your life for it will be quite fruitless. Best Regards Ufl Nucon Stock Exchange [OUR VISION]
LaVista Vista Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz	Posted - 2007.12.17 15:19:00 - [60] Originally by: Ufl Originally by: LaVista Vista Originally by: Ufl Edited by: Ufl on 17/12/2007 14:52:43 Originally by: LaVista Vista Originally by: Ufl Originally by: Ricdic scam by U Fail, we lose all our isk, the ceo's lose all their isk, and there are no share tracking abilities. SLANDER SLANDER SLANDER NO BASIS THANK YOU. Nice caps. You have just ruined your own name. Seriously, why dont you give up? At first the fact that you dont just give up at first is amazing. But at this point, its just pretty annoying. Give up..?! Is that what you do when the times get rough? I just got started... If you are already irritated by me then you best get used to it, Ill be here a looong time. At least i dont look stupid trying to keep alive Look stupid? You truly care about how things "look?" Enjoy your life for it will be quite fruitless. Despite some others, yes. And everybody will tell you, if your business doesnt look good, it will fail. Thats why New con is failing you see. It looks terrible, and the person behind it makes the corp looks even worse. This signature is brought to you by EBankÖ, free space for moderators to brag.
FastLearner Fury Holdings Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2007.12.17 15:23:00 - [61] Originally by: Ufl I am disappointed that the Banks do not want to take part in being brokers, since it would be in their best interest. I run one of the current banks and I'll tell you precisely why I'm not interested in being involved: 1. I don't have a clue who you are - and you've provided no references to verifiable prior achievements. So, on balance, I'd rather trust someone running an IPO than you. 2. I just don't see how your collateral idea would work for most legitimate IPOS. Let me expand on point 2. I see IPOs as, broadly, falling into two categories: 1. "Role-play" IPOs - where there's no genuine need to raise ISK. These MAY be suitable for your venture - but they're of no interest to me. 2. IPOs where there;s a genuine need to actually raise ISK - due to whoever's running the IPO not having the funds themselves. I just don't see how your system helps them raise their funds. Take my own first IPO as an example. I had about 8.5 billion in assets but needed to raise 6.5 billion more to take advance of an opening I saw. My assets were already tied up running the business - a POS for research, a freighter and a bunch of stock mainly. If I had 6.5 billion ISK lieing around I'd not have bothered starting an IPO. If I had a valuable asset such as a T2 BPO I'd have gone to BMBE for a loan. I launched an IPO precisely because I DIDN'T have the money that I needed to raise. Now if I had the ISK but wanted to run a "pretend"/"role-play" IPO then obviously your system could possibly have worked - but I'm trying to make ISK for myself: giving ISK to share-holders at a cost to myself isn't something I'm interested in. I distrust people who DO give away ISK for no reason: I don't distrust them in the sense of believing that they're scammers. I dustrust them in the sense that they've already shown bad business judgment with their own ISK - so I have no expectation they'd act in a more busines--like manner were they entrusted with my ISK. Anyone who sells shares to replace ISK they already had (but gave to an exclamation mark as collateral) isn't someone I have any desire to do business with. Which makes the trust thing irrelevant to me: your whole modus operandi is based upon companies acting in a fashion which makes no sense for them from a financial perspective. So even IF I trusted you, I have no intention of doing business with anyone whose business judgment is unsound enough to be one of your customers.
Kylar Renpurs Dusk Blade	Posted - 2007.12.17 15:24:00 - [62] Quote: I got a better idea: You tell me why I should stop making the NUEX and go trade on the RSEX and EGSE instead. At the same time, you tell me how many people have scammed others on both those boards - I think it will answer your own question. I'm not telling you to stop making it. I'm saying I'm an existing lister with RESX. I listed with RESX because they were a well-known and reputable name, and needed little effort from myself, I simply showed my IPO thread, no need for any ISK or assets or anything, no user accounts, and bang. My shareholders can now trade my shares between themselves and the public. What I'm asking you to do is show why I should leave RESX and come to you. On an aside, I've posted once in any of your topics Ulf. I'm ignoring the slander you say is in these threads. My first reaction is that you're hostile to my question. Amidst everything going on, I'll ignore that even. So my question stands. Show me this proof that RESX scams. If you show me that, everything else won't matter to me. Improve Market Competition!
Kirjava Lothian Quay Industries Zzz	Posted - 2007.12.17 15:25:00 - [63] Originally by: Ufl You tell me why I should stop making the NUEX and go trade on the RSEX and EGSE instead. They are allready well established and the operators much respected in this sharp business forum. Being one of the new guys here I can tell who is new who is bull**ting and who knows that they are talking about. You need to start humble before working yourself up to high and mighty. Take Hexxx for instance, I would wager he is the most respected and objective person on this form and when he has concerns about you we all listen because he has proved himself to be in general correct. Quote:** At the same time, you tell me how many people have scammed others on both those boards - I think it will answer your own question. Why should we care when scamming is an inherent part of the game? We aren't sheep, we review things and do our homework before investing and if it becomes a scam, what realisticly can we do? Would YOU reimburse 40B isk that Wylker scammed? Why would he go through you when YOU could scam 80B? Why would he have needed to raise 40B if he needed to give you 40B to get 40B? ~Nyron
Ufl Caldari Nucon	Posted - 2007.12.17 15:26:00 - [64] Originally by: Kylar Renpurs Quote: I got a better idea: You tell me why I should stop making the NUEX and go trade on the RSEX and EGSE instead. At the same time, you tell me how many people have scammed others on both those boards - I think it will answer your own question. I'm not telling you to stop making it. I'm saying I'm an existing lister with RESX. I listed with RESX because they were a well-known and reputable name, and needed little effort from myself, I simply showed my IPO thread, no need for any ISK or assets or anything, no user accounts, and bang. My shareholders can now trade my shares between themselves and the public. What I'm asking you to do is show why I should leave RESX and come to you. On an aside, I've posted once in any of your topics Ulf. I'm ignoring the slander you say is in these threads. My first reaction is that you're hostile to my question. Amidst everything going on, I'll ignore that even. So my question stands. Show me this proof that RESX scams. If you show me that, everything else won't matter to me. The exchange itself does not "scam" but the IPOs that post there do scam and people have lost money. I may be wrong but from what I know a lot of IPO's have made off like pirates with treasure chests. Voice chat will be up soon for those willing to actually speak with me. Best Regards Ufl Nucon Stock Exchange [OUR VISION]
Daeva Vios PhaseShifter Technologies Legion of Honor	Posted - 2007.12.17 15:27:00 - [65] I don't believe anyone here has actually told you to stop. You can continue on as you please, really. It makes very little difference, except that you'll further distance yourself from your single greatest source of support. You've alienated 98% of your client base, and lost out on several hundred billion potential isk for your trouble. Despite this, nobody has yet told you to stop. I think at this point you're simply no longer entertaining to most of us. That was really all you had going for you.
LaVista Vista Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz	Posted - 2007.12.17 15:28:00 - [66] Originally by: Ufl Voice chat will be up soon for those willing to actually speak with me. No need. Come join the ebank teamspeak server :) Just convo me ingame, and ill give you the details. This signature is brought to you by EBankÖ, free space for moderators to brag.
Kirjava Lothian Quay Industries Zzz	Posted - 2007.12.17 15:28:00 - [67] Originally by: Daeva Vios I don't believe anyone here has actually told you to stop. We haven't had a Drama Llama here since Wylker, we got bored methinks. ~Nyron
Ufl Caldari Nucon	Posted - 2007.12.17 15:29:00 - [68] Originally by: Kirjava Edited by: Kirjava on 17/12/2007 15:26:39 Originally by: Ufl You tell me why I should stop making the NUEX and go trade on the RSEX and EGSE instead. They are allready well established and the operators much respected in this sharp business forum. Even though I am one of the new guys here I can tell who is new who is bull**ting and who knows that they are talking about. You need to start humble before working yourself up to high and mighty. Take Hexxx for instance, I would wager he is the most respected and objective person on this form and when he has concerns about you we all listen because he has proved himself to be in general correct. Quote:** At the same time, you tell me how many people have scammed others on both those boards - I think it will answer your own question. Why should we care when scamming is an inherent part of the game? We aren't sheep, we review things and do our homework before investing and if it becomes a scam, what realisticly can we do? Would YOU reimburse 40B isk that Wylker scammed? Why would he go through you when YOU could scam 80B? Why would he have needed to raise 40B if he needed to give you 40B to get 40B? If Wylker had used NUEX he would have to put up his own personal collateral, and receive investments based on what he provided. And if this was the situation he would not have scammed anyone because there would be no profits to "take" from others. Yes if NUEX held 40B and he made off with his original 40B then we would distribute the 40B among shareholders as insurance. Best Regards Ufl Nucon Stock Exchange [OUR VISION]
Ufl Caldari Nucon	Posted - 2007.12.17 15:31:00 - [69] Originally by: Daeva Vios I don't believe anyone here has actually told you to stop. You can continue on as you please, really. It makes very little difference, except that you'll further distance yourself from your single greatest source of support. You've alienated 98% of your client base, and lost out on several hundred billion potential isk for your trouble. Despite this, nobody has yet told you to stop. I think at this point you're simply no longer entertaining to most of us. That was really all you had going for you. I dont want money, I dont want ISK, I dont want investments. I want people to sign up and use this service. If you chose not to it is your own loss. I will continue to market the service, and as I have seen so far, continue to find interested players. Best Regards Ufl Nucon Stock Exchange [OUR VISION]
Matalino Gallente Ki Tech Industries	Posted - 2007.12.17 16:39:00 - [70] Sorry if I missed it somewhere, but what are these two new IPO's that are to be launched today? I see much fussing over the start of NuCon, but I do not see anything about the 2 new CEO's and their Corporations? Where do I go to learn more about the corporations that have signed up to be traded on NuCon?
Treelox Amarr Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party	Posted - 2007.12.17 16:44:00 - [71] Originally by: Matalino Sorry if I missed it somewhere, but what are these two new IPO's that are to be launched today? I see much fussing over the start of NuCon, but I do not see anything about the 2 new CEO's and their Corporations? Where do I go to learn more about the corporations that have signed up to be traded on NuCon? You have to join nucons message boards and service to get access to their newswire. Private sources of information for an Intial Public Offering....... --
Matalino Gallente Ki Tech Industries	Posted - 2007.12.17 16:55:00 - [72] Originally by: Treelox Originally by: Matalino Sorry if I missed it somewhere, but what are these two new IPO's that are to be launched today? I see much fussing over the start of NuCon, but I do not see anything about the 2 new CEO's and their Corporations? Where do I go to learn more about the corporations that have signed up to be traded on NuCon? You have to join nucons message boards and service to get access to their newswire. Private sources of information for an Intial Public Offering....... I see. That of course makes perfect sense. Ufl, can you confirm that you have no intention of allowing us to evaluate the quality of corporations offered on your exchange until after we enroll with your exchange?
Shadarle	Posted - 2007.12.17 17:20:00 - [73] Originally by: FastLearner Originally by: Ufl I am disappointed that the Banks do not want to take part in being brokers, since it would be in their best interest. I run one of the current banks and I'll tell you precisely why I'm not interested in being involved: 1. I don't have a clue who you are - and you've provided no references to verifiable prior achievements. So, on balance, I'd rather trust someone running an IPO than you. 2. I just don't see how your collateral idea would work for most legitimate IPOS. Let me expand on point 2. I see IPOs as, broadly, falling into two categories: 1. "Role-play" IPOs - where there's no genuine need to raise ISK. These MAY be suitable for your venture - but they're of no interest to me. 2. IPOs where there;s a genuine need to actually raise ISK - due to whoever's running the IPO not having the funds themselves. I just don't see how your system helps them raise their funds. Take my own first IPO as an example. I had about 8.5 billion in assets but needed to raise 6.5 billion more to take advance of an opening I saw. My assets were already tied up running the business - a POS for research, a freighter and a bunch of stock mainly. If I had 6.5 billion ISK lieing around I'd not have bothered starting an IPO. If I had a valuable asset such as a T2 BPO I'd have gone to BMBE for a loan. I launched an IPO precisely because I DIDN'T have the money that I needed to raise. Now if I had the ISK but wanted to run a "pretend"/"role-play" IPO then obviously your system could possibly have worked - but I'm trying to make ISK for myself: giving ISK to share-holders at a cost to myself isn't something I'm interested in. I distrust people who DO give away ISK for no reason: I don't distrust them in the sense of believing that they're scammers. I dustrust them in the sense that they've already shown bad business judgment with their own ISK - so I have no expectation they'd act in a more busines--like manner were they entrusted with my ISK. Anyone who sells shares to replace ISK they already had (but gave to an exclamation mark as collateral) isn't someone I have any desire to do business with. Which makes the trust thing irrelevant to me: your whole modus operandi is based upon companies acting in a fashion which makes no sense for them from a financial perspective. So even IF I trusted you, I have no intention of doing business with anyone whose business judgment is unsound enough to be one of your customers. Respond to this as it is 100% the way I feel about things as well. Tanking Setups Compared Stacking Penalty / Resists Explained
Balogh Gallente Real-time EVE Stock Exchange	Posted - 2007.12.17 17:56:00 - [74] Originally by: Ufl If Wylker had used NUEX he would have to put up his own personal collateral, and receive investments based on what he provided. And if this was the situation he would not have scammed anyone because there would be no profits to "take" from others. Yes if NUEX held 40B and he made off with his original 40B then we would distribute the 40B among shareholders as insurance. No public corporation or IPO will gain anythnig from listing on NUEX if they have to provide the capital they want to raise. It's just pointless, because if they have the capital already, no IPO is needed at all. ________________ Real-time EVE Stock Exchange, Blog Feature request: Share transfer log
Shadarle	Posted - 2007.12.17 17:58:00 - [75] Originally by: Balogh Originally by: Ufl If Wylker had used NUEX he would have to put up his own personal collateral, and receive investments based on what he provided. And if this was the situation he would not have scammed anyone because there would be no profits to "take" from others. Yes if NUEX held 40B and he made off with his original 40B then we would distribute the 40B among shareholders as insurance. No public corporation or IPO will gain anythnig from listing on NUEX if they have to provide the capital they want to raise. It's just pointless, because if they have the capital already, no IPO is needed at all. Exactly, it's the point FL was making above. The entire concept behind NUEX makes no sense for any legitimate IPO launched for the reason of needing ISK. It only works for roleplay IPOs. Even then you lose lots of the roleplay value if you go that route. Tanking Setups Compared Stacking Penalty / Resists Explained
cosmoray	Posted - 2007.12.17 19:07:00 - [76] Edited by: cosmoray on 17/12/2007 19:08:33 Ufl, If I wanted to release an IPO and list my shares on your stock exchange, my IPO thread would read something like: Looking to raise 3 billion ISk for my IPO. 1.5 billion for capital for the IPO, and 1.5 billion to list on Nucon. The return on the 1.5 billion would be 7.5% a month. Please don't calculate ROI to include the 1.5 billion required to list on Nucon, because 3.75% ROI per month sounds crappy. Can you trust me, yes because the most I can steal from you is 1.5 billion, and the most Ufl can steal is 1.5 billion. The chances of both of us scamming have to be 1 in a million. Come on folks give me the money.
Matalino Gallente Ki Tech Industries	Posted - 2007.12.17 19:20:00 - [77] Originally by: cosmoray Can you trust me, yes because the most I can steal from you is 1.5 billion, and the most Ufl can steal is 1.5 billion. The chances of both of us scamming have to be 1 in a million. Unless of course ALL the corps opperating on NUEX are alts of Ufl. Then the chances of both scamming us are precisely 100%.
Atherin Gaius Caldari Domini Umbrus VENOM Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.18 15:41:00 - [78] Originally by: Ufl Edited by: Ufl on 17/12/2007 13:36:25 I believe this answers most questions: All IPO and News information will be available one the NEWSWIRE. If the CEO's decide to post here that is their business, we have our own IPO center for a reason. Considering that 75% or more of all EVE ISK is represented in this forum, you may want to use these forums as an established marketing tool to promote your clients, instead of expecting us to go to YET ANOTHER website to get information from someone that I have ZERO experience with or trust in. At least here there is more opportunity to interact with the IPO owners and make a determination based on them and thier answers to tough questions NOT what you want us to know about them or how you decide to spin information to make it palpable to us.
Pnuka GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.12.18 15:52:00 - [79]
eosfun Gallente	Posted - 2007.12.18 15:58:00 - [80] Originally by: Ufl Originally by: Daeva Vios Edited by: Daeva Vios on 17/12/2007 13:50:11 Originally by: Ufl I cant think of any reason to trade on any other exchange... unless I wanted to get scammed. Sign up today to trade securely with insured shares! Of course, it is only in the best interests of your scam not to think of any reasons. Actually, one of the methods used by scams is to attempt to cast doubt on institutions that have proven themselves reliable, therefore making themselves seem like a better alternative. I'm sure most everyone here, however, can think of several reasons (aside from the scam part) to use the tried and true exchanges over your scam. Shall I begin? You are a sham. You are ignorant. You are insufferably arrogant. You intentionally disregard attempts to assist you. You answer constructive criticism with hostility. You are unknown. You are untrusted by the majority of the market community. You are arrogant (oops, I said that twice huh?) I hope someone else can add something. Slander Slander Slander Slander You have no basis. Thank you. Dont like the NUEX? Go trade on the RSEX or EGSE and get scammed, its not my perogative its yours. It's not slander, it's Libel. EVE'S PORTAL Coming Soon, I swear :D
Matalino Gallente Ki Tech Industries	Posted - 2007.12.18 16:22:00 - [81] Edited by: Matalino on 18/12/2007 16:22:39 Originally by: Ufl http://www.NuconCorporation.com 2 New Corporations are preparing to launch IPO's on Dec. 17th 2007 There are 2 new CEO's who have joined the beginning of the NUEX BETA test and have decided to list their Corporations today, Dec. 17th 2007. Why are these corporations not yet listed on the exchange? Or is this the wrong place to look for them?
Minerva Vulcan Caldari The Nexus Foundation Endless Horizon	Posted - 2007.12.18 17:11:00 - [82] Originally by: Ufl Slander Slander Slander Slander You have no basis. Poor victimized Ufl. :( _______________________________ I need new voices in my head, To speak my secret evils with. I need new lovers in my bed, To be my friends and special pets.
Assens Letta Hunerian Science Institute Pax Atlantis	Posted - 2007.12.19 05:53:00 - [83] i give it to you mate, u really try hard at this, now.. for the tricky part. i have noticed that KDA Enterprises is now listed on NUEX stock, so far so good, u delivered the 1st ppl joining the bandwagon... except.... atm you have been having a serious hard time (to say the least) in getting yourself seen has a security, most ppl accuse you of being a liability and a scammer, until you prove them right (running away with the any fools isk) or proving yourself right (conducting a serious business and still have it up and going 1y from now for instance) you have yet to accomplish anything in the world EvE, this is nor good nor bad, its what it is, going in your favour you have the fact that you created a sleek site, going against you seems to be your EvE community credit rating (judging by the MD forum it should be seen as CCC to say the least). In order to make things improve you need some things (in my humble opinion) 1-have a more professional manner in the forums and the way you address ppl that have been a cornerstone of this community for some time. 2-accept criticism and use it to improve your own ideas. 3-respond on a direct way to the question being asked (these are you potential costumers, as in RL one tries not to scare them awayà I thinkà). 4-have a number of credible corporations invest in your endeavour. Nowà for point 4, well I have looked into KDA Enterprisesà are they serious ? I meanà the 1st corporation you have listed is ran by a guy that has been on a corp he created for 8d, has been in EvE for about 16dà. is he serious ? are YOU serious ?!? For a guy badly needing to establish credibility that isàerrrà. Suicide ? total mistake ? In NUEX site Kaz De'Alak wrote and I quote: ôAny questions or issues may be posted on the KDAE forum, or feel free to contact me directlyö Where is that forum ? why doesnÆt any entry appear in eve search by Kaz (that one is normal since he is newly created... with all the implies) ? why hasnÆt KDA posted anything on the forums ? do they have a real business plan besides what they posted on NUEX site ? do they have some type of RL expertise that will help them to do it ? In order for credibility/trust (a very valuable commodity that u seem to have been throwing away) to be gained it takes a lot of hard work, in your situation KDA is just one more huge liability one that makes ppl think that the ones accusing you of being a scammer (I personally donÆt believe youÆre a scammer, but I would not invest a singly penny taking in consideration what I have seen, and would definitively not recommend your venture to anyone) are correct in their assessment, and tbh that KDA looks worst every time I look at it.
Rho'varo Parvo Universalis	Posted - 2007.12.20 02:56:00 - [84] Edited by: Rho''varo on 20/12/2007 03:03:11 Originally by: Assens Letta I have looked into KDA Enterprises... are they serious ? I meanà the 1st corporation you have listed is ran by a guy that has been on a corp he created for 8d, has been in EvE for about 16dà. is he serious ? are YOU serious ?!? For a guy badly needing to establish credibility that is... errr... Suicide ? total mistake ? I think you may be underestimating KDA Enterprises: there was more than *three million* ISK worth of KDAE stock sold on the exchange recently. Raising that kind of capital, the corporation will be able to buy more than one** T1 frigate BPO.
Havok Pierce Gallente D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.12.20 06:56:00 - [85] Edited by: Havok Pierce on 20/12/2007 07:02:23 Originally by: Rho'varo I think you may be underestimating KDA Enterprises: there was more than *three million* ISK worth of KDAE stock for sale on the exchange recently. Raising that kind of capital, the corporation will be able to buy more than one T1 frigate BPO. Time to send an EVE-Mail to KDAE's CEO, asking a few pertinent questions. And don't knock T1 frigate manufacturing :D Originally by:** CCP Wrangler There's a Community petition category??
Riethe	Posted - 2007.12.20 07:00:00 - [86] Originally by: Rho'varo I think you may be underestimating KDA Enterprises: there was more than *three million* ISK worth of KDAE stock for sale on the exchange recently. Raising that kind of capital, the corporation will be able to buy more than one** T1 frigate BPO. You know, this makes you really start to question, at what point do you have to stop and say, "how much money do I really trust these people with?" With that amount of ISK all in one place, all I can say is: be weary. Someone amassing that amount of public funding can only be up to no good.
Havok Pierce Gallente D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.12.20 07:12:00 - [87] Originally by: Riethe You know, this makes you really start to question, at what point do you have to stop and say, "how much money do I really trust these people with?" With that amount of ISK all in one place, all I can say is: be weary. Someone amassing that amount of public funding can only be up to no good. Careful, Riethe, that way lay madness. Or just tears for those who didn't pick up on the blatant sarcasm. Originally by: CCP Wrangler There's a Community petition category??
Atherin Gaius Caldari Domini Umbrus VENOM Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.20 18:29:00 - [88] Originally by: Ufl Originally by: Kylar Renpurs Edited by: Kylar Renpurs on 17/12/2007 15:13:52 Quote: Rolling Eyes Fact. Ok. Fact. Where is it. Show me that RESX has scammed. I list with them and would be very interested to see this fact. Do not contact me in game. Post it here. If RESX scams, then I feel everyone should know about it. EDIT: I said out of game before and meant in-game. It's 2am. I got a better idea: You tell me why I should stop making the NUEX and go trade on the RSEX and EGSE instead. At the same time, you tell me how many people have scammed others on both those boards - I think it will answer your own question. Umm, I think it was YOU that said that we would be scammed if we use those boards, so it is up to you to prove that. Instead you turn the question back on the person that asked you to prove your comments and them to do it for you. Must be because you don't know anything about what you are trying (quite poorly too) to talk about. You are the new business in the universe. You need to prove your self to US, not the other way around. We are the ones with the ISK that you want to get your stickly little fingers on AND we already have a process in place for IPOs and selling shares that we are comfortable with and trust. There is always room for improvement but you aren't providing any type of improvement over what we have now. If you want us or any of our IPOs to come your way you need to show us how you are better. You have failed to take the opportuinites presented to you to do this by people who have earned more trust in the EVE business community than you ever will. Instead you take these opportunities and turn them into a chance for you to name call. This is childish. Grow up and start acting like a businessman instead of spoiled child who is not getting his way.
Calgorac The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.12.20 23:22:00 - [89] I see you called me and all other CEO's on the Real exchanges scammer's above... My Corporation is traded on both of the Real eve stock exchanges. I currently hold Ten Billion in other peoples Isk and could probably have done the Bond offer for two, three, or even ten times more if I'd wanted to without going thru your fake exchange or offering any security for my bonds other than my word and the reputation I've earned in this game. I run my bond offer because, I want to do my little part to help build the legitimate Stock markets in eve... to see you slander them with your vile comments really upsets me. your whole concept simply makes my blood boil.. please just drop the idea already. Latest News
Riethe	Posted - 2007.12.20 23:57:00 - [90] Originally by: Calgorac Edited by: Calgorac on 20/12/2007 23:32:33 ulf, I see you called me and all other CEO's on the Real exchanges scammer's above... My Corporation is traded on both of the Real eve stock exchanges. I currently hold Ten Billion in other peoples Isk and could probably have done the Bond offer for two, three, or even ten times more if I'd wanted to without going thru your fake exchange or offering any security for my bonds other than my word and the reputation I've earned in this game. I run my bond offer because, I want to do my little part to help build the legitimate Stock markets in eve... to see you slander them with your vile comments really upsets me. your whole concept simply makes my blood boil.. but, im keeping my promise not to try burrying your threads again... but, its getting harder :(..... Y'know, I have to say, your attitude/mentality toward the whole situation is a lot worse than UFL's mentality here. Yeah, he doesn't quite get it, but considering the actions you take in response to it, you're a lot lower than he is as far as handling personal matters. The fact that you can delve to such levels makes me wonder how capable you really are of handling any sort of matters that have a personal conflict with your views or opinions. Perhaps you should take a step back and look at your actions, and for what? Because you disagree? So you spam an entire forum to try to "hide" his threads, and that's going to make him forget that he ever created them, and now they're gone forever? That's how we respond to things? What elementary school are we in? Oh, and you show up here to brag about how much money people would have trusted you with if you had requested it. On top of that, you bash Ufl and claim NUCON or NEWEX is a "fake exchange," with no backing other than the fact that UFL is doing a relatively horrible job at PR. Claiming that any of this makes your blood boil is pathetic. You're pathetic. You exhibit the same kind of flaws and weakness to emotion that Ufl does. And go and break your promise and spam the forums. There's a "report" button now that will conveniently be made use of. Poor UFL, though. I think it's a relatively neat idea, his stubbornness is destroying it, though. He needs to find a real life buddy or a close internet buddy that can run the front end of the whole operation. Someone who can be a little more personable. And it'd help if he was more willing to modify some of the current systems to be more appropriate for what the general public is seeking out of something like this.
eosfun Gallente	Posted - 2007.12.21 00:16:00 - [91] Ain't sayin you a grave digger, you ain't messin with no broke no broke. Ain't sayin you a grave digger, you ain't messin with no broke no broke. Quit digging your grave m8. :( EVE'S PORTAL Coming Soon, I swear :D
Trilori Caldari GearBox Fleet Svcs	Posted - 2007.12.24 20:08:00 - [92] Cache cleared.
Trilori Caldari GearBox Fleet Svcs	Posted - 2007.12.24 20:12:00 - [93] Cache cleared.
Trilori Caldari GearBox Fleet Svcs	Posted - 2007.12.24 20:20:00 - [94] BTW, KDA ran off.. if nobody knew YET... KDA hasn't been around the last few days. You probably might notice that GBFS (me, had intended to list) but after discussing with a trusted player whom I have played with in the past and still do and discussed with another knowledgable player whom I've recently begun doing business with (who also posted at least once here) They all question this concept and matters, I now do as well. I will not put any ISK into this, infact I don't really need an IPO. More ISK is nice, but I can earn that by doing business or wasting my real cash (which I like to do once in awhile) It IS possible KDA is an alt corp of NUCON to "prove" the concepts work when it doesn't because its his own ISK to begin with ha! By reading Hexxx's super old threads (with LOTS of resources and establishment, I don't know him he doesn't know me that has to be considered of course) he has constructed information and passed them properly and has answered questions without dodging them. Thank you for trying UFL :) if you really want to do better you're gonna have to bury it all learn from the trusted sources and never look back on NUCON (NEW CON!!!)
Wong Sun	Posted - 2007.12.24 22:06:00 - [95] Ill be a broker, mail me in game.
Caliwyrm O'Libr Red Eye .Inc.	Posted - 2007.12.24 22:30:00 - [96] Originally by: Wong Sun Ill be a broker, mail me in game. Woot, a 22 day old alt in a 2 man corp.. Can I trust you with all my ISK P-L-E-A-S-E? ======= Talk is cheap because supply always outweighs demand..
Trilori Caldari GearBox Fleet Svcs	Posted - 2007.12.25 14:46:00 - [97] I've already completely backed out of this, I'm going with what the community has to say. Anything I see on RESX and EBANK are good enough for me. People... don't waste your time on this, if you want to do something go to RESX, EGSG and EBANK. I don't know those corps well, but I am seeing high regard and excellent raves about these corporations. And the fact that I don't see this kind of crap when it comes to EBANK assures me something is right with EBANK.
Hexxx Minmatar	Posted - 2007.12.25 15:16:00 - [98] Originally by: Trilori I've already completely backed out of this, I'm going with what the community has to say. Anything I see on RESX and EBANK are good enough for me. People... don't waste your time on this, if you want to do something go to RESX, EGSG and EBANK. I don't know those corps well, but I am seeing high regard and excellent raves about these corporations. And the fact that I don't see this kind of crap when it comes to EBANK assures me something is right with EBANK. And just remember guys...do your own research too. Read up on RESX, EGSE, and EBANK to find out who runs them, how they work, and what they do. Also, don't forget FuryBank and BMBE. Together with EBANK, these are the "Big Three" Banks in EVE right now. Each has their own way of doing business and their own rates of return on investments. RESX also provides a small amount of interest on deposits as well, though it's primary business is as an Exchange. Consulting, IPO Template, and Stock/Bond definitions.
Trilori Caldari GearBox Fleet Svcs	Posted - 2007.12.26 04:57:00 - [99] Originally by: Hexxx Originally by: Trilori I've already completely backed out of this, I'm going with what the community has to say. Anything I see on RESX and EBANK are good enough for me. People... don't waste your time on this, if you want to do something go to RESX, EGSG and EBANK. I don't know those corps well, but I am seeing high regard and excellent raves about these corporations. And the fact that I don't see this kind of crap when it comes to EBANK assures me something is right with EBANK. Indeed reading is important, don't just take my word I know nothing. And just remember guys...do your own research too. Read up on RESX, EGSE, and EBANK to find out who runs them, how they work, and what they do. Also, don't forget FuryBank and BMBE. Together with EBANK, these are the "Big Three" Banks in EVE right now. Each has their own way of doing business and their own rates of return on investments. RESX also provides a small amount of interest on deposits as well, though it's primary business is as an Exchange.

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