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FastLearner
Fury Holdings Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2007.12.17 15:23:00 -
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Originally by: Ufl I am disappointed that the Banks do not want to take part in being brokers, since it would be in their best interest.
I run one of the current banks and I'll tell you precisely why I'm not interested in being involved:
1. I don't have a clue who you are - and you've provided no references to verifiable prior achievements. So, on balance, I'd rather trust someone running an IPO than you. 2. I just don't see how your collateral idea would work for most legitimate IPOS.
Let me expand on point 2. I see IPOs as, broadly, falling into two categories:
1. "Role-play" IPOs - where there's no genuine need to raise ISK. These MAY be suitable for your venture - but they're of no interest to me. 2. IPOs where there;s a genuine need to actually raise ISK - due to whoever's running the IPO not having the funds themselves. I just don't see how your system helps them raise their funds.
Take my own first IPO as an example. I had about 8.5 billion in assets but needed to raise 6.5 billion more to take advance of an opening I saw. My assets were already tied up running the business - a POS for research, a freighter and a bunch of stock mainly. If I had 6.5 billion ISK lieing around I'd not have bothered starting an IPO. If I had a valuable asset such as a T2 BPO I'd have gone to BMBE for a loan. I launched an IPO precisely because I DIDN'T have the money that I needed to raise. Now if I had the ISK but wanted to run a "pretend"/"role-play" IPO then obviously your system could possibly have worked - but I'm trying to make ISK for myself: giving ISK to share-holders at a cost to myself isn't something I'm interested in.
I distrust people who DO give away ISK for no reason: I don't distrust them in the sense of believing that they're scammers. I dustrust them in the sense that they've already shown bad business judgment with their own ISK - so I have no expectation they'd act in a more busines--like manner were they entrusted with my ISK. Anyone who sells shares to replace ISK they already had (but gave to an exclamation mark as collateral) isn't someone I have any desire to do business with.
Which makes the trust thing irrelevant to me: your whole modus operandi is based upon companies acting in a fashion which makes no sense for them from a financial perspective. So even IF I trusted you, I have no intention of doing business with anyone whose business judgment is unsound enough to be one of your customers.
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Kylar Renpurs
Dusk Blade
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Posted - 2007.12.17 15:24:00 -
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I got a better idea:
You tell me why I should stop making the NUEX and go trade on the RSEX and EGSE instead. At the same time, you tell me how many people have scammed others on both those boards - I think it will answer your own question.
I'm not telling you to stop making it. I'm saying I'm an existing lister with RESX. I listed with RESX because they were a well-known and reputable name, and needed little effort from myself, I simply showed my IPO thread, no need for any ISK or assets or anything, no user accounts, and bang. My shareholders can now trade my shares between themselves and the public.
What I'm asking you to do is show why I should leave RESX and come to you.
On an aside, I've posted once in any of your topics Ulf. I'm ignoring the slander you say is in these threads. My first reaction is that you're hostile to my question. Amidst everything going on, I'll ignore that even.
So my question stands. Show me this proof that RESX scams. If you show me that, everything else won't matter to me.
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Kirjava
Lothian Quay Industries Zzz
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Posted - 2007.12.17 15:25:00 -
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Originally by: Ufl You tell me why I should stop making the NUEX and go trade on the RSEX and EGSE instead.
They are allready well established and the operators much respected in this sharp business forum. Being one of the new guys here I can tell who is new who is bull****ting and who knows that they are talking about. You need to start humble before working yourself up to high and mighty. Take Hexxx for instance, I would wager he is the most respected and objective person on this form and when he has concerns about you we all listen because he has proved himself to be in general correct.
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At the same time, you tell me how many people have scammed others on both those boards - I think it will answer your own question.
Why should we care when scamming is an inherent part of the game? We aren't sheep, we review things and do our homework before investing and if it becomes a scam, what realisticly can we do? Would YOU reimburse 40B isk that Wylker scammed? Why would he go through you when YOU could scam 80B? Why would he have needed to raise 40B if he needed to give you 40B to get 40B?
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Ufl
Caldari Nucon
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Posted - 2007.12.17 15:26:00 -
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Originally by: Kylar Renpurs
Quote:
I got a better idea:
You tell me why I should stop making the NUEX and go trade on the RSEX and EGSE instead. At the same time, you tell me how many people have scammed others on both those boards - I think it will answer your own question.
I'm not telling you to stop making it. I'm saying I'm an existing lister with RESX. I listed with RESX because they were a well-known and reputable name, and needed little effort from myself, I simply showed my IPO thread, no need for any ISK or assets or anything, no user accounts, and bang. My shareholders can now trade my shares between themselves and the public.
What I'm asking you to do is show why I should leave RESX and come to you.
On an aside, I've posted once in any of your topics Ulf. I'm ignoring the slander you say is in these threads. My first reaction is that you're hostile to my question. Amidst everything going on, I'll ignore that even.
So my question stands. Show me this proof that RESX scams. If you show me that, everything else won't matter to me.
The exchange itself does not "scam" but the IPOs that post there do scam and people have lost money. I may be wrong but from what I know a lot of IPO's have made off like pirates with treasure chests.
Voice chat will be up soon for those willing to actually speak with me. Best Regards Ufl Nucon Stock Exchange [OUR VISION]
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Daeva Vios
PhaseShifter Technologies Legion of Honor
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Posted - 2007.12.17 15:27:00 -
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I don't believe anyone here has actually told you to stop.
You can continue on as you please, really. It makes very little difference, except that you'll further distance yourself from your single greatest source of support.
You've alienated 98% of your client base, and lost out on several hundred billion potential isk for your trouble.
Despite this, nobody has yet told you to stop. I think at this point you're simply no longer entertaining to most of us.
That was really all you had going for you.
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LaVista Vista
Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz
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Posted - 2007.12.17 15:28:00 -
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Originally by: Ufl
Voice chat will be up soon for those willing to actually speak with me.
No need. Come join the ebank teamspeak server :) Just convo me ingame, and ill give you the details.
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Kirjava
Lothian Quay Industries Zzz
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Posted - 2007.12.17 15:28:00 -
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Originally by: Daeva Vios I don't believe anyone here has actually told you to stop.
We haven't had a Drama Llama here since Wylker, we got bored methinks.
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Ufl
Caldari Nucon
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Posted - 2007.12.17 15:29:00 -
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Originally by: Kirjava Edited by: Kirjava on 17/12/2007 15:26:39
Originally by: Ufl You tell me why I should stop making the NUEX and go trade on the RSEX and EGSE instead.
They are allready well established and the operators much respected in this sharp business forum. Even though I am one of the new guys here I can tell who is new who is bull****ting and who knows that they are talking about. You need to start humble before working yourself up to high and mighty. Take Hexxx for instance, I would wager he is the most respected and objective person on this form and when he has concerns about you we all listen because he has proved himself to be in general correct.
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At the same time, you tell me how many people have scammed others on both those boards - I think it will answer your own question.
Why should we care when scamming is an inherent part of the game? We aren't sheep, we review things and do our homework before investing and if it becomes a scam, what realisticly can we do? Would YOU reimburse 40B isk that Wylker scammed? Why would he go through you when YOU could scam 80B? Why would he have needed to raise 40B if he needed to give you 40B to get 40B?
If Wylker had used NUEX he would have to put up his own personal collateral, and receive investments based on what he provided. And if this was the situation he would not have scammed anyone because there would be no profits to "take" from others.
Yes if NUEX held 40B and he made off with his original 40B then we would distribute the 40B among shareholders as insurance. Best Regards Ufl Nucon Stock Exchange [OUR VISION]
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Ufl
Caldari Nucon
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Posted - 2007.12.17 15:31:00 -
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Originally by: Daeva Vios I don't believe anyone here has actually told you to stop.
You can continue on as you please, really. It makes very little difference, except that you'll further distance yourself from your single greatest source of support.
You've alienated 98% of your client base, and lost out on several hundred billion potential isk for your trouble.
Despite this, nobody has yet told you to stop. I think at this point you're simply no longer entertaining to most of us.
That was really all you had going for you.
I dont want money, I dont want ISK, I dont want investments.
I want people to sign up and use this service.
If you chose not to it is your own loss.
I will continue to market the service, and as I have seen so far, continue to find interested players. Best Regards Ufl Nucon Stock Exchange [OUR VISION]
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Matalino
Gallente Ki Tech Industries
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Posted - 2007.12.17 16:39:00 -
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Sorry if I missed it somewhere, but what are these two new IPO's that are to be launched today?
I see much fussing over the start of NuCon, but I do not see anything about the 2 new CEO's and their Corporations?
Where do I go to learn more about the corporations that have signed up to be traded on NuCon?
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Treelox
Amarr Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party
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Posted - 2007.12.17 16:44:00 -
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Originally by: Matalino Sorry if I missed it somewhere, but what are these two new IPO's that are to be launched today?
I see much fussing over the start of NuCon, but I do not see anything about the 2 new CEO's and their Corporations?
Where do I go to learn more about the corporations that have signed up to be traded on NuCon?
You have to join nucons message boards and service to get access to their newswire. Private sources of information for an Intial Public Offering....... --
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Matalino
Gallente Ki Tech Industries
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Posted - 2007.12.17 16:55:00 -
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Originally by: Treelox
Originally by: Matalino Sorry if I missed it somewhere, but what are these two new IPO's that are to be launched today?
I see much fussing over the start of NuCon, but I do not see anything about the 2 new CEO's and their Corporations?
Where do I go to learn more about the corporations that have signed up to be traded on NuCon?
You have to join nucons message boards and service to get access to their newswire. Private sources of information for an Intial Public Offering.......
I see. That of course makes perfect sense. 
Ufl, can you confirm that you have no intention of allowing us to evaluate the quality of corporations offered on your exchange until after we enroll with your exchange?
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Shadarle
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Posted - 2007.12.17 17:20:00 -
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Originally by: FastLearner
Originally by: Ufl I am disappointed that the Banks do not want to take part in being brokers, since it would be in their best interest.
I run one of the current banks and I'll tell you precisely why I'm not interested in being involved:
1. I don't have a clue who you are - and you've provided no references to verifiable prior achievements. So, on balance, I'd rather trust someone running an IPO than you. 2. I just don't see how your collateral idea would work for most legitimate IPOS.
Let me expand on point 2. I see IPOs as, broadly, falling into two categories:
1. "Role-play" IPOs - where there's no genuine need to raise ISK. These MAY be suitable for your venture - but they're of no interest to me. 2. IPOs where there;s a genuine need to actually raise ISK - due to whoever's running the IPO not having the funds themselves. I just don't see how your system helps them raise their funds.
Take my own first IPO as an example. I had about 8.5 billion in assets but needed to raise 6.5 billion more to take advance of an opening I saw. My assets were already tied up running the business - a POS for research, a freighter and a bunch of stock mainly. If I had 6.5 billion ISK lieing around I'd not have bothered starting an IPO. If I had a valuable asset such as a T2 BPO I'd have gone to BMBE for a loan. I launched an IPO precisely because I DIDN'T have the money that I needed to raise. Now if I had the ISK but wanted to run a "pretend"/"role-play" IPO then obviously your system could possibly have worked - but I'm trying to make ISK for myself: giving ISK to share-holders at a cost to myself isn't something I'm interested in.
I distrust people who DO give away ISK for no reason: I don't distrust them in the sense of believing that they're scammers. I dustrust them in the sense that they've already shown bad business judgment with their own ISK - so I have no expectation they'd act in a more busines--like manner were they entrusted with my ISK. Anyone who sells shares to replace ISK they already had (but gave to an exclamation mark as collateral) isn't someone I have any desire to do business with.
Which makes the trust thing irrelevant to me: your whole modus operandi is based upon companies acting in a fashion which makes no sense for them from a financial perspective. So even IF I trusted you, I have no intention of doing business with anyone whose business judgment is unsound enough to be one of your customers.
Respond to this as it is 100% the way I feel about things as well.
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Balogh
Gallente Real-time EVE Stock Exchange
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Posted - 2007.12.17 17:56:00 -
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Originally by: Ufl If Wylker had used NUEX he would have to put up his own personal collateral, and receive investments based on what he provided. And if this was the situation he would not have scammed anyone because there would be no profits to "take" from others.
Yes if NUEX held 40B and he made off with his original 40B then we would distribute the 40B among shareholders as insurance.
No public corporation or IPO will gain anythnig from listing on NUEX if they have to provide the capital they want to raise. It's just pointless, because if they have the capital already, no IPO is needed at all. ________________ Real-time EVE Stock Exchange, Blog Feature request: Share transfer log |

Shadarle
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Posted - 2007.12.17 17:58:00 -
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Originally by: Balogh
Originally by: Ufl If Wylker had used NUEX he would have to put up his own personal collateral, and receive investments based on what he provided. And if this was the situation he would not have scammed anyone because there would be no profits to "take" from others.
Yes if NUEX held 40B and he made off with his original 40B then we would distribute the 40B among shareholders as insurance.
No public corporation or IPO will gain anythnig from listing on NUEX if they have to provide the capital they want to raise. It's just pointless, because if they have the capital already, no IPO is needed at all.
Exactly, it's the point FL was making above. The entire concept behind NUEX makes no sense for any legitimate IPO launched for the reason of needing ISK. It only works for roleplay IPOs. Even then you lose lots of the roleplay value if you go that route.
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cosmoray
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Posted - 2007.12.17 19:07:00 -
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Edited by: cosmoray on 17/12/2007 19:08:33 Ufl, If I wanted to release an IPO and list my shares on your stock exchange, my IPO thread would read something like:
Looking to raise 3 billion ISk for my IPO. 1.5 billion for capital for the IPO, and 1.5 billion to list on Nucon.
The return on the 1.5 billion would be 7.5% a month. Please don't calculate ROI to include the 1.5 billion required to list on Nucon, because 3.75% ROI per month sounds crappy.
Can you trust me, yes because the most I can steal from you is 1.5 billion, and the most Ufl can steal is 1.5 billion. The chances of both of us scamming have to be 1 in a million.
Come on folks give me the money.
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Matalino
Gallente Ki Tech Industries
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Posted - 2007.12.17 19:20:00 -
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Originally by: cosmoray Can you trust me, yes because the most I can steal from you is 1.5 billion, and the most Ufl can steal is 1.5 billion. The chances of both of us scamming have to be 1 in a million.
Unless of course ALL the corps opperating on NUEX are alts of Ufl. Then the chances of both scamming us are precisely 100%.
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Atherin Gaius
Caldari Domini Umbrus VENOM Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.18 15:41:00 -
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Originally by: Ufl Edited by: Ufl on 17/12/2007 13:36:25 I believe this answers most questions: All IPO and News information will be available one the NEWSWIRE.
If the CEO's decide to post here that is their business, we have our own IPO center for a reason.
Considering that 75% or more of all EVE ISK is represented in this forum, you may want to use these forums as an established marketing tool to promote your clients, instead of expecting us to go to YET ANOTHER website to get information from someone that I have ZERO experience with or trust in.
At least here there is more opportunity to interact with the IPO owners and make a determination based on them and thier answers to tough questions NOT what you want us to know about them or how you decide to spin information to make it palpable to us.
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Pnuka
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.12.18 15:52:00 -
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eosfun
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.12.18 15:58:00 -
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Originally by: Ufl
Originally by: Daeva Vios Edited by: Daeva Vios on 17/12/2007 13:50:11
Originally by: Ufl
I cant think of any reason to trade on any other exchange... unless I wanted to get scammed.
Sign up today to trade securely with insured shares!
Of course, it is only in the best interests of your scam not to think of any reasons. Actually, one of the methods used by scams is to attempt to cast doubt on institutions that have proven themselves reliable, therefore making themselves seem like a better alternative.
I'm sure most everyone here, however, can think of several reasons (aside from the scam part) to use the tried and true exchanges over your scam.
Shall I begin?
You are a sham. You are ignorant. You are insufferably arrogant. You intentionally disregard attempts to assist you. You answer constructive criticism with hostility. You are unknown. You are untrusted by the majority of the market community. You are arrogant (oops, I said that twice huh?)
I hope someone else can add something.
Slander Slander Slander Slander You have no basis. Thank you.
Dont like the NUEX? Go trade on the RSEX or EGSE and get scammed, its not my perogative its yours.
It's not slander, it's Libel.
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Matalino
Gallente Ki Tech Industries
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Posted - 2007.12.18 16:22:00 -
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Edited by: Matalino on 18/12/2007 16:22:39
Originally by: Ufl http://www.NuconCorporation.com 2 New Corporations are preparing to launch IPO's on Dec. 17th 2007 There are 2 new CEO's who have joined the beginning of the NUEX BETA test and have decided to list their Corporations today, Dec. 17th 2007.
Why are these corporations not yet listed on the exchange? Or is this the wrong place to look for them?
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Minerva Vulcan
Caldari The Nexus Foundation Endless Horizon
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Posted - 2007.12.18 17:11:00 -
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Originally by: Ufl
Slander Slander Slander Slander You have no basis.
Poor victimized Ufl. :( _______________________________ I need new voices in my head, To speak my secret evils with. I need new lovers in my bed, To be my friends and special pets. |

Assens Letta
Hunerian Science Institute Pax Atlantis
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Posted - 2007.12.19 05:53:00 -
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i give it to you mate, u really try hard at this, now.. for the tricky part.
i have noticed that KDA Enterprises is now listed on NUEX stock, so far so good, u delivered the 1st ppl joining the bandwagon... except.... atm you have been having a serious hard time (to say the least) in getting yourself seen has a security, most ppl accuse you of being a liability and a scammer, until you prove them right (running away with the any fools isk) or proving yourself right (conducting a serious business and still have it up and going 1y from now for instance) you have yet to accomplish anything in the world EvE, this is nor good nor bad, its what it is, going in your favour you have the fact that you created a sleek site, going against you seems to be your EvE community credit rating (judging by the MD forum it should be seen as CCC to say the least).
In order to make things improve you need some things (in my humble opinion)
1-have a more professional manner in the forums and the way you address ppl that have been a cornerstone of this community for some time. 2-accept criticism and use it to improve your own ideas. 3-respond on a direct way to the question being asked (these are you potential costumers, as in RL one tries not to scare them awayą I thinką). 4-have a number of credible corporations invest in your endeavour.
Nową for point 4, well I have looked into KDA Enterprisesą are they serious ? I meaną the 1st corporation you have listed is ran by a guy that has been on a corp he created for 8d, has been in EvE for about 16dą. is he serious ? are YOU serious ?!?
For a guy badly needing to establish credibility that isąerrrą. Suicide ? total mistake ?
In NUEX site Kaz De'Alak wrote and I quote: ōAny questions or issues may be posted on the KDAE forum, or feel free to contact me directlyö
Where is that forum ? why doesnĘt any entry appear in eve search by Kaz (that one is normal since he is newly created... with all the implies) ? why hasnĘt KDA posted anything on the forums ? do they have a real business plan besides what they posted on NUEX site ? do they have some type of RL expertise that will help them to do it ?
In order for credibility/trust (a very valuable commodity that u seem to have been throwing away) to be gained it takes a lot of hard work, in your situation KDA is just one more huge liability one that makes ppl think that the ones accusing you of being a scammer (I personally donĘt believe youĘre a scammer, but I would not invest a singly penny taking in consideration what I have seen, and would definitively not recommend your venture to anyone) are correct in their assessment, and tbh that KDA looks worst every time I look at it.
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Rho'varo
Parvo Universalis
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Posted - 2007.12.20 02:56:00 -
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Edited by: Rho''varo on 20/12/2007 03:03:11
Originally by: Assens Letta I have looked into KDA Enterprises... are they serious ? I meaną the 1st corporation you have listed is ran by a guy that has been on a corp he created for 8d, has been in EvE for about 16dą. is he serious ? are YOU serious ?!?
For a guy badly needing to establish credibility that is... errr... Suicide ? total mistake ?
I think you may be underestimating KDA Enterprises: there was more than three million ISK worth of KDAE stock sold on the exchange recently. Raising that kind of capital, the corporation will be able to buy more than one T1 frigate BPO.
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Havok Pierce
Gallente D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.12.20 06:56:00 -
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Edited by: Havok Pierce on 20/12/2007 07:02:23
Originally by: Rho'varo I think you may be underestimating KDA Enterprises: there was more than three million ISK worth of KDAE stock for sale on the exchange recently. Raising that kind of capital, the corporation will be able to buy more than one T1 frigate BPO.
Time to send an EVE-Mail to KDAE's CEO, asking a few pertinent questions.
And don't knock T1 frigate manufacturing :D
Originally by: CCP Wrangler There's a Community petition category??
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Riethe
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Posted - 2007.12.20 07:00:00 -
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Originally by: Rho'varo I think you may be underestimating KDA Enterprises: there was more than three million ISK worth of KDAE stock for sale on the exchange recently. Raising that kind of capital, the corporation will be able to buy more than one T1 frigate BPO.
You know, this makes you really start to question, at what point do you have to stop and say, "how much money do I really trust these people with?"
With that amount of ISK all in one place, all I can say is: be weary.
Someone amassing that amount of public funding can only be up to no good.
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Havok Pierce
Gallente D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.12.20 07:12:00 -
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Originally by: Riethe You know, this makes you really start to question, at what point do you have to stop and say, "how much money do I really trust these people with?"
With that amount of ISK all in one place, all I can say is: be weary.
Someone amassing that amount of public funding can only be up to no good.
Careful, Riethe, that way lay madness. Or just tears for those who didn't pick up on the blatant sarcasm.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler There's a Community petition category??
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Atherin Gaius
Caldari Domini Umbrus VENOM Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.20 18:29:00 -
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Originally by: Ufl
Originally by: Kylar Renpurs Edited by: Kylar Renpurs on 17/12/2007 15:13:52
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Rolling Eyes Fact.
Ok. Fact. Where is it. Show me that RESX has scammed. I list with them and would be very interested to see this fact.
Do not contact me in game. Post it here. If RESX scams, then I feel everyone should know about it.
EDIT: I said out of game before and meant in-game. It's 2am.
I got a better idea:
You tell me why I should stop making the NUEX and go trade on the RSEX and EGSE instead. At the same time, you tell me how many people have scammed others on both those boards - I think it will answer your own question.
Umm, I think it was YOU that said that we would be scammed if we use those boards, so it is up to you to prove that.
Instead you turn the question back on the person that asked you to prove your comments and them to do it for you. Must be because you don't know anything about what you are trying (quite poorly too) to talk about.
You are the new business in the universe. You need to prove your self to US, not the other way around. We are the ones with the ISK that you want to get your stickly little fingers on AND we already have a process in place for IPOs and selling shares that we are comfortable with and trust. There is always room for improvement but you aren't providing any type of improvement over what we have now.
If you want us or any of our IPOs to come your way you need to show us how you are better. You have failed to take the opportuinites presented to you to do this by people who have earned more trust in the EVE business community than you ever will. Instead you take these opportunities and turn them into a chance for you to name call.
This is childish. Grow up and start acting like a businessman instead of spoiled child who is not getting his way.
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Calgorac
The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.12.20 23:22:00 -
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I see you called me and all other CEO's on the Real exchanges scammer's above...
My Corporation is traded on both of the Real eve stock exchanges.
I currently hold Ten Billion in other peoples Isk and could probably have done the Bond offer for two, three, or even ten times more if I'd wanted to without going thru your fake exchange or offering any security for my bonds other than my word and the reputation I've earned in this game.
I run my bond offer because, I want to do my little part to help build the legitimate Stock markets in eve... to see you slander them with your vile comments really upsets me.
your whole concept simply makes my blood boil.. please just drop the idea already.
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Riethe
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Posted - 2007.12.20 23:57:00 -
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Originally by: Calgorac Edited by: Calgorac on 20/12/2007 23:32:33 ulf, I see you called me and all other CEO's on the Real exchanges scammer's above...
My Corporation is traded on both of the Real eve stock exchanges.
I currently hold Ten Billion in other peoples Isk and could probably have done the Bond offer for two, three, or even ten times more if I'd wanted to without going thru your fake exchange or offering any security for my bonds other than my word and the reputation I've earned in this game.
I run my bond offer because, I want to do my little part to help build the legitimate Stock markets in eve... to see you slander them with your vile comments really upsets me.
your whole concept simply makes my blood boil.. but, im keeping my promise not to try burrying your threads again...
but, its getting harder :(.....
Y'know, I have to say, your attitude/mentality toward the whole situation is a lot worse than UFL's mentality here.
Yeah, he doesn't quite get it, but considering the actions you take in response to it, you're a lot lower than he is as far as handling personal matters.
The fact that you can delve to such levels makes me wonder how capable you really are of handling any sort of matters that have a personal conflict with your views or opinions.
Perhaps you should take a step back and look at your actions, and for what? Because you disagree? So you spam an entire forum to try to "hide" his threads, and that's going to make him forget that he ever created them, and now they're gone forever?
That's how we respond to things? What elementary school are we in?
Oh, and you show up here to brag about how much money people would have trusted you with if you had requested it.
On top of that, you bash Ufl and claim NUCON or NEWEX is a "fake exchange," with no backing other than the fact that UFL is doing a relatively horrible job at PR.
Claiming that any of this makes your blood boil is pathetic.
You're pathetic. You exhibit the same kind of flaws and weakness to emotion that Ufl does.
And go and break your promise and spam the forums. There's a "report" button now that will conveniently be made use of.
Poor UFL, though. I think it's a relatively neat idea, his stubbornness is destroying it, though.
He needs to find a real life buddy or a close internet buddy that can run the front end of the whole operation. Someone who can be a little more personable.
And it'd help if he was more willing to modify some of the current systems to be more appropriate for what the general public is seeking out of something like this.
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