Somehow, they've managed to make inbreeding work for them. Usually it results in the Hapsburgs, or southern banjo-playing Americans that vote Republican, but somehow they've arrived at the most gorgeous women on earth with their limited gene pool.

I was just googling 'hot and/or cold incest' and I guess Iceland qualified for the cold variety. I assure you I don't have any of the Gawker domains bookmarked.

Thats just PC propaganda, imposed by libfags. They want to import more ****** refugees "to fix that"

Thats just PC propaganda, imposed by libfags. They want to import more ****** refugees "to fix that"

Now you have to explain why you are looking up incest.

Research.

Couldn't you just ask your parents about it?

Also I believe a medical doctor friend of mine told me once that sleeping with ones cousin and having kids is not the same as incest and perfectly ok, by scientific standards.

southern banjo-playing Americans that vote Republican

So you'd rather take the chance a bone down with a cousin than have immigration? Or just "don't believe" in incest cause the bible said it was ok/ what's his face lived 600 years, and had 900 children. (true story read the old testament) Hmm the children of Adam and eve must have been awkward at first. Small wonder cain killed abel. He was sleeping with his sisterwife.

The doctor told you wrong, its OK in a certain sense but not entirely without consequence. Even 2nd or 3rd cousins having a child carries the same potential risk of inherited problems and birth defects of heavy drinking and smoking women in her 50s having a child.

The doctor told you wrong, its OK in a certain sense but not entirely without consequence. Even 2nd or 3rd cousins having a child carries the same potential risk of inherited problems and birth defects of heavy drinking and smoking women in her 50s having a child.

I believe my doctor friend more than you, also to equate heavy drinking and smoking during pregnancy in her 50's to having a child with your third cousin is just, the dumbest thing I have heard today.

Dont beleive me, see for yourself.

"41.2 percent of prereproductive deaths were associated with the expression of detrimental recessive genes, with equivalent values of 26.0, 14.9, and 8.1 percent for first cousins, first cousins once removed/double second cousins, and second cousins respectively."

http://www.jstor.org/pss/2137601

"A BBC report discussed Pakistanis in Britain, 55% of whom marry a first cousin.[190] Given the high rate of such marriages, many children come from repeat generations of first-cousin marriages. The report states that these children are 13 times more likely than the general population to produce children with genetic disorders, and one in ten children of first-cousin marriages in Birmingham either dies in infancy or develops a serious disability. The BBC also states that Pakistani-Britons, who account for some 3% of all births in the UK, produce "just under a third" of all British children with genetic illnesses. Published studies show that mean perinatal mortality in the Pakistani community of 15.7 per thousand significantly exceeds that in the indigenous population and all other ethnic groups in Britain. Congenital anomalies account for 41 percent of all British Pakistani infant deaths. The BBC story contained an interview with Myra Ali, whose parents and grandparents were all first cousins. She has a very rare recessive genetic condition, known as Epidermolysis bullosa which will cause her to lead a life of extreme physical suffering, limited human contact and probably an early death from skin cancer. Knowing that cousin marriages increase the probability of recessive genetic conditions, she is understandably against the practice. Finally, in 2010 the Telegraph reported that cousin marriage among the British Pakistani community resulted in 700 children being born every year with genetic disabilities."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/7957808/700-children-born-with-genetic-disabilities-due-to-cousin-marriages-every-year.html

"the average risk of birth defects in a child born of first cousins at 1.7GÇô2.8% over an average base risk for non-cousin couples of 3%, or about the same as that of any woman over age 40. In terms of mortality, a 1994 study found a mean excess pre-reproductive mortality rate of 4.4%, While another study published in 2009 suggests the rate may be closer to 3.5%. Put differently, first-cousin marriage entails a similar increased risk of birth defects and mortality as a woman faces when she gives birth at age 41 rather than at 30."

"After repeated generations of cousin marriage the actual genetic relationship between two people is closer than the most immediate relationship would suggest. In Pakistan, where there has been cousin marriage for generations and the current rate may exceed 50%,"

http://www.consang.net/images/d/dd/01AHBWeb3.pdf

Thats just some of the research, the possible effects include miscarriage, post natal and infant death and a huge list of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polygenic_traits.

I think those pretty much count as consequences.

Rejoice in your education!

Rejoice in my education? Ok where to begin, it is late so I will be brief, a your first source is something from somewhere back in 1994? Journal of science published peer review research I believe one suggesting that inbreeding on Iceland increased fertility, want a link? google it or use wiki page for inbreeding, yes there seems to be one second you proved my point yourself because if you took a few seconds to read what I wrote in that post you quote me on you'd see why I even went as far as calling someone "dumb".

Also from what I read according to latest data increased mortality is 3.5% by first cousin, wowzor, some say 4.4%, holy motha, and you even linked that to me with your post

That would equate to similar risk of someone having a childat the age of 41, whatever, and I believe smoking and alchohol abuse have a worse % of risk factor to pregnancy and birth defects. But don't quote me on that?!

But I agree there are risks, I do not agree that they are really worth taking note of especially when it comes to second or third cousin. Also, obviously it can't be that bad, we are discussing this on CCP forums, an Icelandic company and you are arguing with a Levi ...

Do you even know what's going on here? Let me break down in nice and easy to read and step by step.

1. You post anecdote about how medical doctor said it was perfectly "OK" to for cousins to have children

2. I post rebuttal and post an anecdote about the risks and consequence

3. You post rebuttal and call me dumb

4. I list links to research that points out lower risks for cousins having children roughly equivalent to an over 40s women having a child. There where further sources suggesting that after a generation or two the risks sky rocket far beyond that with consequences actually far worse than my smoking and drinking older mother with a greater risk of inheritable disorders, miscarriage, post natal and infant death

All i wanted to point out that its not medically "OK" it carries risks yet you had to be insulting.

What do you think the real reason is behind fanfest?


How many who go to fanfest are wondering why they pee funny for a week?