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Juha85
Beasts of Burden
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Posted - 2007.12.23 19:39:00 -
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 Originally by: Zyrla Bladestorm
Imho, snake implant sets and there ability to take an already fairly extreme fitting that results in "quite good" performance and make it utterly ridiculous are going to make it very difficult to balance speed decently.
The huge boost they give means that the uber setups (And the bulk of the complaints about speed they produce) will not leave the game untill such time as the normal ones have been nerfed pretty much to uselessness.
And this is why the snake implants should be revisited. Same goes to all pirate implants to be honest. One possibility is to make them somehow stacking nerfed with mods. Or just remove the insane set bonuses..
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Juha85
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Posted - 2007.12.23 21:06:00 -
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Actually I already see alot less of vagas compared to few months back
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Juha85
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Posted - 2007.12.23 22:06:00 -
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Well.. the ishtar can go around 4km/s and do 475 dps while doing so and sustaining its cap with a cap booster for alot longer than a vagas cap would ever last. Yes, its dps can be killed. And if you would opt not to fit a cap booster you could actually fit a web on the ishtar which should help you if you are about to be caught. And you can also fit a neut with the cap booster.
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Juha85
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Posted - 2007.12.23 22:21:00 -
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Originally by: turnschuh
reduce mwd speed bonus to 200-300%
reduce webber bonus to 50%-60%
all problems solved.
And also make the mwd easier to sustain then.. or nerf the ab bonus
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Juha85
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Posted - 2007.12.23 23:30:00 -
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I think he means low grade snakes when u look at the price
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Juha85
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Posted - 2007.12.23 23:33:00 -
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Originally by: Goumindong
Originally by: Juha85
I think he means low grade snakes when u look at the price
Didnt the LP store changes drasticially cut snake implant price?
Well its been a while since I last checked snake prices but im pretty sure a low grade set was a bit below a billion and a high grade somewhere between 2-3bil
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Juha85
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Posted - 2007.12.23 23:40:00 -
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Had to check the snake set.. yes you can get a snake set for 1.5bil but in order to get the omega it costs 3bil total.
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Posted - 2007.12.25 14:26:00 -
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Originally by: Inflexible
Originally by: Semkhet
I never said that vaga's aren't extensively used. I say that as soon they are NOT in gang, they seldom represent a threat for a similar or bigger ship.
They are much more used and still have comparable losses, see the problem?
Originally by: Semkhet
And as soon a vaga is ganged, their effectiveness is a moot point because they are NOT the ship which will deliver the main DPS which will bring down the target.
Vaga don't need uber DPS, because he always dictates if there will be fight or not. And THATS what makes him overpowered. Did you even bother to read entire thread?
Originally by: Semkhet
AAA is the most interesting since the set of stats is much more complete. Just check the number of destroyed vagas for the last 3 days... And we are talking about an invulnerable ship right? 
Of course they lose some - look how much they use them. But they have insane survival ratio.
And I have one final question for you: Are you trying to troll or are you simply ignorant?
What part do you not understand about minmatar and especially the vagabond. Minmatar are the race that specializes in speed and hit&run tactics. Especially the vagabond, it's the intented role of the ship. If you take away the vaga's option of running away you leave the ship without a role at all. It can't do damage, it can't tank ... It can only tackle & run. By all means nerf the speed of a vaga but give it one more dmg bonus and another gun.
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