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Roime
UNFRL Fleet Operations CONSORTIUM UNIVERSALIS
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Posted - 2012.02.07 13:40:00 -
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You won the encounter.
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Roime
UNFRL Fleet Operations CONSORTIUM UNIVERSALIS
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Posted - 2012.02.07 13:49:00 -
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Valei Khurelem wrote:First, this isn't how a game should be, you may as well just show cinematics of noob frigates being killed constantly and gain ISK and skill points just for that. I should have the choice to not die and do as I please especially in a sandbox if it's not hurting anyone, I shouldn't be punished for subscribing later than the other guy which is what's happened here.
Are you serious?
In your version of the sandbox, the rules should be changed to please only you, and restrict others?
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Roime
UNFRL Fleet Operations CONSORTIUM UNIVERSALIS
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Posted - 2012.02.07 13:58:00 -
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Valei Khurelem wrote:
I do wonder at times whether people like you actually read before you post, my position has always been games like this should be a sandbox for everyone, not just for a select few, namely I don't think that gankers should have an automatic advantage over people or 0.0 alliances just because they have the biggest numbers.
I guess I need to spam this more on every thread I post in big capital letters so people get it.
I wonder if you read your own posts with any thought. You contradict yourself. You can't make a sandbox for everyone by imposing rules on some.
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Roime
UNFRL Fleet Operations CONSORTIUM UNIVERSALIS
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Posted - 2012.02.07 14:13:00 -
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Valei Khurelem wrote:It isn't imposing rules, it's giving people options, if someone's clever enough to dodge peoples stupid tactics as I was here then you should be able to get past them, the problem with EVE is CCP has essentially made the rule "I have the biggest ship in the whole region so you have to die now" that isn't what a sandbox should be, I just don't see why I should be forced to wear a cloak or fly in a pod/shuttle to do it because it's killing MY part of the game and I don't even want anything to do with the person trying to gank me.
You are confusing fundamental principles of violence with sandbox rules.
1) physically stronger opponent wins when all else is equal
2) larger numbers wins when all else is equal
This is how interaction between species work in ecosystems (natural world, the benchmark of all sandboxes) and the rules have their ground in physics.
Luckily, like you just demonstrated, smaller, physically weaker and fewer can affect the "all else" part, overcome the fundamental rules by their wits and cunning.
I think CCP has been quite sucessful in simulating these properties of interaction. And it still appears like you want to affect the options of player interaction to your personal benefit only. |

Roime
UNFRL Fleet Operations CONSORTIUM UNIVERSALIS
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Posted - 2012.02.07 14:41:00 -
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Valei Khurelem wrote:Quote: 1) physically stronger opponent wins when all else is equal
2) larger numbers wins when all else is equal
There have been thousands of examples throughout the history of our species and currently that completely prove both of these points wrong, as for your comment about me personally, this is a game, the point isn't survival the point is being able to progress and have fun, if I'm actually forced to log out of a game I have paid for because of another players actions, that isn't fun that's just stupid and unnecessary. It's like this whole stupid argument that is repeated on here where people seem to think that you should somehow be forced to work hard in a video game that is provided purely for entertainment and fun.
You didn't even read those two sentences or the rest of the post.
You seem to have decided the Point of EVE, a vague idea that most people don't agree on, and they don't have to, because it's a freaking sandbox.
Oh and no, you were not forced to log out of a game. You chose to use cowardly metagame measure to avoid losing. |

Roime
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Posted - 2012.02.07 15:37:00 -
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War Kitten wrote:
Nice troll though :)
Damn :D
Very good troll!
10/10
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