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Honnete Du Decimer
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Posted - 2012.02.08 22:42:00 -
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Serene Repose wrote:You really haven't been keeping up with the discussion, OP. If I've said it once, I've said it a thousand times. People in 0.0 are trying to tilt the game to make everyone else roll down the table to them so they can gank them. YOU SEE, it gets awful lonely out there with no one to gank. Even Goonwaffle broke under the boredom and fell for some hair-brained scheme of Mitt's to corner the ice market by ganking hulks at ice belts. They just wanted an excuse to come back into the higher sec areas to have something to break up the tedium of watching each other in 0.0, or spinning their ship trying to keep that "I'm a bada$$ for being here" feeling alive.
0.0 people don't want company out there to make life rosy. They want victims. They're so bored they'll chase a pod around. They're going stir crazy out there. I guess you discovered that first hand, though.
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Serene Repose
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.02.09 00:55:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Serene Repose wrote:Even Goonwaffle broke under the boredom and fell for some hair-brained scheme of Mitt's to corner the ice market by ganking hulks at ice belts. What's hair-brained about hurting your opponents while making an absolute fsckton of money at a very small cost, all while having fun in the process? Yeah, yeah. Some things look great on paper.
Smokestack lightnin' shinin' just like gold. |

Ai Shun
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Posted - 2012.02.09 01:30:00 -
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Valei Khurelem wrote:the point isn't survival the point is being able to progress and have fun, if I'm actually forced to log out of a game I have paid for because of another players actions, that isn't fun that's just stupid and unnecessary
Others have alluded to this, but despite the bluster I don't think you comprehend it yet.
- He is defending his space.
- This is fun for him.
- Your arbitrary rules would remove his fun.
- He would likely then log off and do something else.
Net result? He was forced to log out of a game he paid for because of another players actions. That is also stupid and unnecessary.
Yes, that makes a fair few assumptions; but it is done to illustrate why your statements are a tad hypocritical.
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Zirse
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
268
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Posted - 2012.02.09 01:57:00 -
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Serene Repose wrote:Tippia wrote:Serene Repose wrote:Even Goonwaffle broke under the boredom and fell for some hair-brained scheme of Mitt's to corner the ice market by ganking hulks at ice belts. What's hair-brained about hurting your opponents while making an absolute fsckton of money at a very small cost, all while having fun in the process? Yeah, yeah. Some things look great on paper.
You are so far from the truth it's laughable.
If people don't like sandboxes why do they feel it necessary to subscribe to EVE and **** up the forums with endless QQ. Go play swtor or something. |

Jhan Niber
EdgeGamers
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Posted - 2012.02.09 02:29:00 -
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Just remembered, they made a trailer about what you went through. You should watch it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGplrpWvz0I |

Har Farst
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.02.11 09:17:00 -
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Ok, Easy fix to your situation...
Join the "ouch" corp. "open university of celestial hardship"
they teach nullsec survival, def helped a few of the guys in my alts corp get set up. and the stuff they teach you is definate gold when it comes to doing anyhting in 0.0
great service... chk it out |

Valei Khurelem
297
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Posted - 2012.02.11 09:45:00 -
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Amazing how people call me hypocritical without any evidence and how this thread is still being kept going.
Quote:Your arbitrary rules would remove his fun.
I don't want arbitrary rules, all I want is more options for payback, that's what you lot don't seem to get, apparently, if I'm a noob in 0.0 space and solo, I'm supposed to just roll over and die, when I choose to ignore that rule a bunch of players decide to throw a hissy fit and completely ignore what I've written responding as I've written something else entirely.
At this rate, purely because of their attitudes and unwillingness to change 0.0 and low sec will remain dead forever.
Unlike you lot, I actually have evidence to back up what I say, a simple look on the map with pilot activity filtered proves I'm right.
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m602/Lethn/EVE7.jpg
Guess where the highest concentration of players is?
"don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP." -á - CCP Ytterbium |

Ai Shun
260
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Posted - 2012.02.11 09:57:00 -
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Valei Khurelem wrote:I don't want arbitrary rules, all I want is more options for payback, that's what you lot don't seem to get, apparently, if I'm a noob in 0.0 space and solo, I'm supposed to just roll over and die, when I choose to ignore that rule a bunch of players decide to throw a hissy fit and completely ignore what I've written responding as I've written something else entirely.
Yeah. I have the memory of a goldfish and never got past that one post.
Valei Khurelem wrote:First, this isn't how a game should be, you may as well just show cinematics of noob frigates being killed constantly and gain ISK and skill points just for that. I should have the choice to not die and do as I please especially in a sandbox if it's not hurting anyone, I shouldn't be punished for subscribing later than the other guy which is what's happened here.
Valei Khurelem wrote:What they should be doing is making PvE in 0.0 space much easier and more rewarding since the threat of gankers being everywhere alone is a lot to handle if you aren't in a corporation or alliance.
Several people listed options for you for payback. You kept on calling them trolls. It's actually fairly comedic. |

Valei Khurelem
297
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Posted - 2012.02.11 10:03:00 -
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So you're idea of an argument is to quote me and write one line? how is what I've said hypocritical? All the options that have been listed are useless for small gangs and solo player or newbies, how is it practical for a noob to train for covert ops for 30 days and have nothing else to do but mission running or ratting? It just isn't.
it isn't the fault of newbies and carebears that no one plays your game it's people like you, you're all whining about high sec now because no ones willing to play by your rules anymore.
"don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP." -á - CCP Ytterbium |

Hauling Hal
The Black Ops
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Posted - 2012.02.11 13:57:00 -
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Valei Khurelem wrote:There are currently 38,564 active players on the EVE server right now, I laugh at your majority.
15/38,564 > 1/38,564, so it is the majority in this debate. |
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Fredfredbug4
Kings of Kill EVE Animal Control
39
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Posted - 2012.02.11 15:24:00 -
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Solution: Join a nullsec corp who has their HQ in nullsec.
This way if you ever get popped you won't have to go through 17 jumps of null and low in your pod, but rather maybe 5 or so jumps if you decided to stay relatively close to your HQ while on the hunt. |

OT Smithers
Cult of Baal
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Posted - 2012.02.11 15:38:00 -
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Without reading all of the thread....
I will kill anything I can, including characters that appear to be new, including newb ships. I don't pat myself on the back for it or consider it a sign of PvP excellence, it's my job to make visiting my system as painful as possible.
However.....
If you are genuinely a new player send a private message to the person that is camping you or whatever, politely explain the situation and ask them for their help or even offer a small ransom. Many players, including "bloodthirsty pirates" will go out of their way to help new players -- or at the very least not kill them if they know. Obviously, it's on you whether or not to trust them, but from my experience most pirates will not violate a safe passage or ransom agreement.
And if they DO let you go, and lord knows I should not have to say this (but from my experience I do) say "Thank You." Courtesy is not a sign of weakness. |

Ettu Brute II
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
23
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Posted - 2012.02.12 03:48:00 -
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I'm a newcomer to MMO gaming and the much-quoted concept of a "sandbox" completely baffles me. To me the idea is self-contradictory. Take this comment:
Quote:It doesn't mean that you can do whatever you want. It means everyone can do whatever they want, If the "you" in the first sentence can't do what they want, the second sentence is untrue, because "everyone" must include whoever "you" is.
So a sandbox is an impossibility. |

gfldex
317
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Posted - 2012.02.12 04:00:00 -
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Valei Khurelem wrote:I just don't see why I should be forced to log out of a game and quit purely to prevent myself from being ganked because someone in their overpowered tech 2 battlecruiser thought it would be funny to station camp me then follow me through about 2 - 3 systems before finally giving up. These people don't even get to flaunt a spectacular killmail from killing noobs, so why do they even do it?
EVE Online is a highly competitive game. No matter how young, any competitor MUST DIE!
Also, shooting NPCs has no meaning in itself. Nothing in this game has a meaning in itself. It's our emotions that bring the meaning to it. Your suffering is the joy of your competitors.
The game has a tutorial that gives you a mining laser and a railgun and tells you to go shoot rocks and red crosses. It teaches you nothing else. It's been that way for 8 years, so are you really surprised that there are people who aren't aware that this is a pvp game? --Jafit McJafitson |
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