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Admiral Pelleon
Caldari White Shadow Imperium Burning Horizons
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Posted - 2007.12.29 03:18:00 -
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Originally by: Shagarina yeah you're right.
I have no idea on how to get into warp.. how could I have been so dumb. it was me all along.
sorry for wasting your time.. yeah, nothing to do with what looked like a bubble in lowsec, nothing to do with perma tanking dictors, it was just me, .. hey perhaps i was on AP all the way through, and was coasting to the gate... yeah maybe that was it.. doh! how stupid of me..
you're obviously very experience player to figure all that out without actually being there.. I bow to your obvious superiorty, and skill in knowing all.
Thank you. I salute you for your honesty. ________
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Kessiaan
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Posted - 2007.12.29 03:30:00 -
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Despite the fact that WCS are obsolete with Trinity, most of the old tips still apply.
1) Scout. Use a throwaway alt scout (trial accounts work great if you don't have a 2nd paid account) for best results since you can follow behind. 2) Use the starmap to identify trouble spots. Good gate camps of any sort tend to make giant ugly red spots when you color stars by ships destroyed in the last hour.
You used to be able to stab up a hauler, throw on some shield extenders and a cloak and expect to be OK 99% of the time if you did the above, but with the new heavy dictors this is no longer the case.
I suggest using a T2 blockade runner, fitted with polycarb rigs, nanofibers and istabs in the lows, ECM in the mids (NO SHIELD EXTENDERS!), and a cloak in the highs and you should be able to align while cloaked and get to warp way before anyone can lock you. If you can't use T2 indys I'd suggest a completely unfitted throwaway hauler. Be sure to fully insure it of course, and still do the above. ----- My in Eve Profile My BattleClinic Page |
Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2007.12.29 03:31:00 -
[33]
Fail fountain.
Stand underneath and bathe in the fail.
Mmm. -
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Shagarina
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Posted - 2007.12.29 03:33:00 -
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Originally by: Admiral Pelleon
Thank you. I salute you for your honesty.
thought you would like it :) I take it you're for empire ganking pirates with bubbles then? take a trip to rancer, have fun.
the point is, it isnt FUN. we know risks in 0.0 they have camps and bubbles and you scout them out, and much more wary.. Bubbles in empire beyond ugly, ********, and even if it was focused and negated stabs.. guess what.. screwed up, not fun. BROKEN!!!!
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Shagarina
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Posted - 2007.12.29 03:37:00 -
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Originally by: Kessiaan Despite the fact that WCS are obsolete with Trinity, most of the old tips still apply.
1) Scout. Use a throwaway alt scout (trial accounts work great if you don't have a 2nd paid account) for best results since you can follow behind. 2) Use the starmap to identify trouble spots. Good gate camps of any sort tend to make giant ugly red spots when you color stars by ships destroyed in the last hour.
You used to be able to stab up a hauler, throw on some shield extenders and a cloak and expect to be OK 99% of the time if you did the above, but with the new heavy dictors this is no longer the case.
I suggest using a T2 blockade runner, fitted with polycarb rigs, nanofibers and istabs in the lows, ECM in the mids (NO SHIELD EXTENDERS!), and a cloak in the highs and you should be able to align while cloaked and get to warp way before anyone can lock you. If you can't use T2 indys I'd suggest a completely unfitted throwaway hauler. Be sure to fully insure it of course, and still do the above.
Love my crane :) run blockades in that many a time, but now, not a chance if bubbles and wcs are negated with hvy dictors. I once broke through a bubble with 32 strong d2 gang in that, not a hope in hell now.
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Bob Niac
Gallente Meridian Dynamics PURGE.
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Posted - 2007.12.29 03:38:00 -
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On a somewhat more constructive note......
Aura says 2 things when warping. "Warping to xxx" and "warp Drive Active"
Did you hear/see both?
Also, HACtors; HICs; HD; w/e can use a script that, when used directly on a player, make the entire system a DED deadspace zone. No Warping. No MWD. No 0.0 limitation. Oh, and no special animation. (The graphic remains a bubble.)
Sooooo .. In all likelihood you got smacked with a sensor boosting dictor using an ARM to pimp slap you into oblivion. This also probably happened the instant BEFORE the server recognized you had aligned properly.
Short Version: Check Logs, if nothing is suspect we shall dine in hell.
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Admiral Pelleon
Caldari White Shadow Imperium Burning Horizons
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Posted - 2007.12.29 03:38:00 -
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Originally by: Shagarina
Originally by: Admiral Pelleon
Thank you. I salute you for your honesty.
thought you would like it :) I take it you're for empire ganking pirates with bubbles then? take a trip to rancer, have fun.
the point is, it isnt FUN. we know risks in 0.0 they have camps and bubbles and you scout them out, and much more wary.. Bubbles in empire beyond ugly, ********, and even if it was focused and negated stabs.. guess what.. screwed up, not fun. BROKEN!!!!
There are no bubbles in low sec, you're just wrong. ________
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Siriyana
Astrum Contract Services Group
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Posted - 2007.12.29 03:38:00 -
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Originally by: Shagarina
sorry for wasting your time.. yeah, nothing to do with what looked like a bubble in lowsec, nothing to do with perma tanking dictors,
#1- You do know there's a graphical bug that makes the heavy dictors look like there is a bubble around them even when they're using the focused script, right? Just checking, you know, to make sure you saw this.
#2- How do you know he was perma-tanking? Did you sit and watch him forever? How do you know his tank wouldn't only last 15 minutes or so? Even if his tank was enough to withstand the damage, he's sacrificing a lot of firepower to do that. ----- CEO, Astrum Contract Services Group
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Grytok
moon7empler Ev0ke
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Posted - 2007.12.29 03:50:00 -
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My Alt's not flying a Devoter, but a Broadsword. I can passive-permatank Sentries in it very well :)
But there is one thing I cannot, no matter how hard I try: Using the Warp Disruption Field Generator without the Focused Script loaded other then in 0.0 is just not possible.
With a T2 Sensorbooster and Scan Resolution Script loaded I'll be able to get a Destroyer scrammed anytime before he's entering warp. With the Focused Warp Disruption Script I've no penalties other then I can't be remotely repped. The penalties to speed only apply, if I use the unscripted Warp Disruption Field Generator! So it's no problem to outrun your little Destroyer.
Graphics are bugged, but c'mon, thats pretty pointless here.
JFYI. .
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Kessiaan
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Posted - 2007.12.29 03:51:00 -
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Honestly I think the lowsec heavy dictor pilots are taking a bigger risk than the average joe in lowsec anyway.
Big, expensive ship equals big, expensive target. ----- My in Eve Profile My BattleClinic Page |
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SoftRevolution
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Posted - 2007.12.29 03:55:00 -
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Can someone confirm or deny that HICs can stop ships midwarp in low sec? EVE RELATED CONTENT |
Wu Xiang
Prospero Incorperated
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Posted - 2007.12.29 04:00:00 -
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As it stands bubbles cant be deployed in empire, or it shouldnt be capable. If you think this has happened, petition, don't come to the forums whining about it.
What proberbly happened is he had sensor boosters and a focused scram and the graphic glitch still hasn't been fixed.
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Matrixcvd
Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.12.29 04:05:00 -
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Originally by: Shagarina dont you guys get it..
if a game aint fun, people dont play... if you implement a mechanic that ****es people off.. they leave.. I have two accounts, right now, lowsec is not possible to fly through, I was in a fast ship, with warp core stabs, and inertial, I was pulled out of warp after it initiated, which indicates that its broken.
stop replying with the usual, give me your stuff, and yes get with it..
you guys have to understand basic FUNdementals. I play to enjoy and yes pvp is part, but when you have something that can permatank sentries in a .4 with a -10 sec rating, you have something that is fundementally broken. If I stop playing, and go play another MMO they in all likelyhood will end up getting my time ( here the key is time more than money, but one leads to the other)
so come on and stop sucking on your mother teet still and grow up
-shagarina
Cancel your accounts, Your loss is our fun. Your pain is our pleasure, get over it. Your game of safe flying in low sec is not part of a pirates plan. Learn to deal. TBH i thought this new addition was going to be hated by quite a large number of noob pilots and wondered why CCP would introduce a solo camper but alas, i love it. Cheers to the pirates who kill these guys. I will drink one for every forum post like this
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Aceoil
Murder-Death-Kill
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Posted - 2007.12.29 04:05:00 -
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so you ran through lowsec without a cloaking device on your ship?
You got pointed by a ship that has a scrambling device on it? Oh no.
Would you still be complaining if you got scrambled and pointed by 4 drakes?
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Shagarina
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Posted - 2007.12.29 04:08:00 -
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Edited by: Shagarina on 29/12/2007 04:08:57 Tri are still ****s it seems
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Matrixcvd
Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.12.29 04:12:00 -
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Originally by: Shagarina Edited by: Shagarina on 29/12/2007 04:08:57 Tri are still ****s it seems
and you sir are with out a ship, i take evil names over no ship any day
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Fall Girl
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Posted - 2007.12.29 04:14:00 -
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Originally by: Shagarina dont you guys get it..
if a game aint fun, people dont play... if you implement a mechanic that ****es people off.. they leave.. I have two accounts, right now, lowsec is not possible to fly through, I was in a fast ship, with warp core stabs, and inertial, I was pulled out of warp after it initiated, which indicates that its broken.
stop replying with the usual, give me your stuff, and yes get with it..
you guys have to understand basic FUNdementals. I play to enjoy and yes pvp is part, but when you have something that can permatank sentries in a .4 with a -10 sec rating, you have something that is fundementally broken. If I stop playing, and go play another MMO they in all likelyhood will end up getting my time ( here the key is time more than money, but one leads to the other)
so come on and stop sucking on your mother teet still and grow up
-shagarina
EVE isnt a single player game. Get some friends and pew pew them.
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Wylker
Caldari Pyrrhus Sicarii
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Posted - 2007.12.29 04:19:00 -
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I claim this one, it was my broadsword, and no I didn't pull you out of warp. It doesnt take that long for a cruiser to lock a hauler. BTW, your stuff was worth like 25 mil tops. I grabbed like 3 items and popped the wreck it was such poor loot.
Finally, blinky reds will probably pod you in lowsec
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Shagarina
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Posted - 2007.12.29 04:19:00 -
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I just checked my log.
I think something fishy is going on..
I initiated warp from cloak, yet, he is shooting me 3 seconds before the log indicates I initiated warp.. he starts warp scramming me before I even get the warp message off. So he is what, shooting me before warp initated ? if I am cloaked then he locked me before I decloaked ? we're talking 3 seconds from decloak till warp initated message. that he actually locked me in that time too very strange if you ask me...
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[ 2007.12.29 01:20:38 ] (combat) Woodbine [BL3H](Devoter) lands a hit on you which glances off, causing no real damage. [ 2007.12.29 01:20:38 ] (combat) Woodbine [BL3H](Devoter) lands a hit on you which glances off, causing no real damage. [ 2007.12.29 01:20:38 ] (combat) Woodbine [BL3H](Devoter) barely misses you. [ 2007.12.29 01:20:38 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Woodbine [BL3H](Devoter) hits you, doing 85.4 damage. [ 2007.12.29 01:20:40 ] (notify) Woodbine [BL3H](Devoter) has started trying to warp scramble you! [ 2007.12.29 01:20:41 ] (notify) Warping to Stargate (Olettiers) [ 2007.12.29 01:20:41 ] (combat) Woodbine [BL3H](Devoter) barely misses you. [ 2007.12.29 01:20:41 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Woodbine [BL3H](Devoter) lightly hits you, doing 35.4 damage. [ 2007.12.29 01:20:41 ] (combat) Woodbine [BL3H](Devoter) barely misses you. [ 2007.12.29 01:20:41 ] (combat) Woodbine [BL3H](Devoter) barely misses you. [ 2007.12.29 01:20:41 ] (notify) Unable to perform because you are warp scrambled.
-shagarina
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Shagarina
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Posted - 2007.12.29 04:28:00 -
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Originally by: Matrixcvd
Originally by: Shagarina Edited by: Shagarina on 29/12/2007 04:08:57 Tri are still ****s it seems
and you sir are with out a ship, i take evil names over no ship any day
yeah, try and be constructive and we can avoid unpleasantries, plus I owe angel one too :) although I think we all do...
ships cheap and replacable, its principle here .. damn it does no one see this ?
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DOARota
Gallente Drones Of Annihilation. Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2007.12.29 04:42:00 -
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Your log only shows what happened as you tried to warp for the second time. Start from the beginning when you entered local...maybe one file back.
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Steely Dhan
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Posted - 2007.12.29 05:11:00 -
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Originally by: Wylker I claim this one, it was my broadsword, and no I didn't pull you out of warp. It doesnt take that long for a cruiser to lock a hauler. BTW, your stuff was worth like 25 mil tops. I grabbed like 3 items and popped the wreck it was such poor loot.
Finally, blinky reds will probably pod you in lowsec
What exactly are you claiming here? It seems it was woodbine in a devoter involved here.
. 2007.12.29 01:20:38 ] (combat) Woodbine [BL3H](Devoter) lands a hit on you which glances off, causing no real damage. |
Hannobaal
Gallente Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.12.29 05:23:00 -
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Originally by: Shagarina nothing wrong in using a destroyer get 3 lows, I fly around in lowsec fine, never been hit, first time I came across a heavy dictor though in lowsec.
-shagarina
May I suggest a frigate with inertial stabilizers instead?
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Celeste Coeval
The Gosimer and Scarab
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Posted - 2007.12.29 05:39:00 -
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Originally by: Crumplecorn Fail fountain.
Stand underneath and bathe in the fail.
Mmm.
Originally by: Death Kill Go travel or live in the rainforest if neccesary, just dont turn to religion as its a cul de sac.
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Vaal Erit
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Posted - 2007.12.29 05:56:00 -
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Originally by: Shagarina I just checked my log.
I think something fishy is going on..
I initiated warp from cloak, yet, he is shooting me 3 seconds before the log indicates I initiated warp.. he starts warp scramming me before I even get the warp message off. So he is what, shooting me before warp initated ? if I am cloaked then he locked me before I decloaked ? we're talking 3 seconds from decloak till warp initated message. that he actually locked me in that time too very strange if you ask me...
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[ 2007.12.29 01:20:38 ] (combat) Woodbine [BL3H](Devoter) lands a hit on you which glances off, causing no real damage. [ 2007.12.29 01:20:38 ] (combat) Woodbine [BL3H](Devoter) lands a hit on you which glances off, causing no real damage. [ 2007.12.29 01:20:38 ] (combat) Woodbine [BL3H](Devoter) barely misses you. [ 2007.12.29 01:20:38 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Woodbine [BL3H](Devoter) hits you, doing 85.4 damage. [ 2007.12.29 01:20:40 ] (notify) Woodbine [BL3H](Devoter) has started trying to warp scramble you! [ 2007.12.29 01:20:41 ] (notify) Warping to Stargate (Olettiers) [ 2007.12.29 01:20:41 ] (combat) Woodbine [BL3H](Devoter) barely misses you. [ 2007.12.29 01:20:41 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Woodbine [BL3H](Devoter) lightly hits you, doing 35.4 damage. [ 2007.12.29 01:20:41 ] (combat) Woodbine [BL3H](Devoter) barely misses you. [ 2007.12.29 01:20:41 ] (combat) Woodbine [BL3H](Devoter) barely misses you. [ 2007.12.29 01:20:41 ] (notify) Unable to perform because you are warp scrambled.
-shagarina
Definetly a sensor boosted Devoter. It's got 7 lows for extreme tanking and 3 meds for 3x SB IIs or 2x SB IIs and one cap injector.
You didn't get hit by the bubble since when you try to warp out of a bubble, it says something like" you cannot initiate warp because you are within 14,000m of a warp bubble, you must be at least 20,000m to warp"
You got hit by the focused warp disruptor which can scramble motherships/titans as well as ships with stabs on. Working as intended, bro. As for the timestamp, you can spawn next to a wreck, enemy ship or NPC ships and get decloaked afaik, also due to normal lag, messages can be off by a few seconds, hat's normal. Either way if you double clicked to move somehwere or tried to run back to the gate it wouldn't show up on that log so that doesn't prove anything. Stop posting because a lot of trolls can't control themselves.
If you really feel you have been wronged, petition it, but I can tell you 100% for sure it was not a bubble in lowsec.
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Gane Green
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.12.29 08:13:00 -
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Originally by: Shagarina
im in a destroyer, they are fast into warp. Its not an itty.
as for my skill, fu. I have 500+ kills with my alt, and you'd crap your pants if you saw him. No stranger to pvp, or on how to get a pod out after a wreck.
-shagarina
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Poaster Boy
Dafuzz Fan Club
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Posted - 2007.12.29 08:32:00 -
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Wow, I've never seen somebodt flame and troll their own thread so effectively. A few people have made legitimate points in this thread, and are immediately flamed by the OP. I think it is you sir, who need to grow the **** up and get off your mommy's *****.
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Setana Manoro
Gallente Firefly Inc.
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Posted - 2007.12.29 08:42:00 -
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Originally by: Shagarina yeah, maybe, but wtf.
im in a destroyer, they are fast into warp. Its not an itty.
if you think this is legit, well fine, good for you. Personally anything that can permatank sentries and travel 30km across the area of a gate to snag someone, well I feel this is complete *******s tbh.
but to also be able to lock my pod before I can even warp that out.. something is jacked up with the game.
as for my skill, fu. I have 500+ kills with my alt, and you'd crap your pants if you saw him. No stranger to pvp, or on how to get a pod out after a wreck.
-shagarina
Show him, i dear you. 500+ kill is nothing if you only fight in huge freakinb blobs where the individual skill of the pilot is diminished and gf's are not to be had.
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.12.29 08:51:00 -
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um are you ever going to reply to the fact that we've told you it wasn't a bubble?
petition it if you like.
in game.
but it wasn't a bubble. being pulled out of warp is when you hit warp and enter the warp tunnel. then 30 seonds later apon coming to the gate your 30 km away from the gate in a bubble!
the bubbles pulls you out of warp so you end up AFTER warp somewhere you didn't want to warp TO.
meaning it wasn't a bubble.
his lock time was lower than 1 second it seems by the way.
pink supporter! Future art director at CCP! or texture guy, either or :P http://www.digipen.edu/main/Gallery_Games_2004#Narbacular_Drop Was in class with these folks :P |
Cdr Foxbat
Vanguard Frontiers Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.12.29 09:19:00 -
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Quote: [ 2007.12.29 01:20:40 ] (notify) Woodbine [BL3H](Devoter) has started trying to warp scramble you!
Not a bubble - but due to all the data lagging and coming into you in one large packet everything between 38 and 41 happened at pretty much the same time. Server side or your side - doesn't matter realy - stuff like that happens.
Best bet is get over it and don't look like a fool - which tbh you are making yourself look atm.
Oh and avoiding Rancer is step 1 on the road to perfection.....
Originally by: Marduk Felzhen
Originally by: Vorian Atraties i bid my kidney...
i bid his other kidney
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