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Venkul Mul
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.12.29 07:46:00 -
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 Originally by: Karyuudo Tydraad
Have you considered that they didn't want you in their space? They're trying to discourage people coming into it. That's a plenty good reason to pod.
Not that you need a reason.
Yes, but then they shouldn't cry that there is no people in 0.0/low sec as most of them do.
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Science Lord
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Posted - 2007.12.29 07:58:00 -
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Originally by: Kader
I just find that shooting on sight anyone who trespass your "house" is very texan....
I guess we were all brought up differently 
^^ This 
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Mrsticks
Minmatar
RNCGM Inc.
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Posted - 2007.12.29 07:59:00 -
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Originally by: Kader
I just find that shooting on sight anyone who trespass your "house" is very texan....
I guess we were all brought up differently
^^ This
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Hannobaal
Gallente
Igneus Auctorita
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.12.29 08:35:00 -
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Originally by: Venkul Mul
Yes, but then they shouldn't cry that there is no people in 0.0
No one does. Certainly not the people who live there, at least.
See, in 0.0, unlike low-sec, most people aren't there for simple piracy. If they are there for the resources, they obviously don't want more people. If they are there for the whole alliance empire-building sovereignity game, they want more people but only if you're moving there to join them. Otherwise, why would they care? And if they are there to shoot stuff, there is no shortage of war in 0.0, and certainly lone hapless empire dwellers in frigates don't contribute much of anything to their fun anyway.
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Ashmorg
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Posted - 2007.12.29 09:08:00 -
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Originally by: Hannobaal
Originally by: Venkul Mul
Yes, but then they shouldn't cry that there is no people in 0.0
No one does. Certainly not the people who live there, at least.
See, in 0.0, unlike low-sec, most people aren't there for simple piracy. If they are there for the resources, they obviously don't want more people. If they are there for the whole alliance empire-building sovereignity game, they want more people but only if you're moving there to join them. Otherwise, why would they care? And if they are there to shoot stuff, there is no shortage of war in 0.0, and certainly lone hapless empire dwellers in frigates don't contribute much of anything to their fun anyway.
What he said. Pirates complain that there is no one in Lowsec. No one is complaining that there are no targets in 0.0.
Coalition is complaining that BoB has retreated too fast and they have to shoot too many undefended POSes, and most FCs have to deal with bloodthirsty killers whining about a lack of targets during any alliance or sub-group's prime-time, but there are no lack of targets in 0.0.
0.0 is too crowded as it is (I could use 5 or so Dysprosium moons, and a few -0.9 systems to myself). We don't need you, especially by your lonesome. Come back when you've learned the game
/obvious alt
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Shaarek
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Posted - 2007.12.29 09:36:00 -
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Edited by: Shaarek on 29/12/2007 09:36:17
Anyways, That was my though on it.
I read so many post about how people are getting more and more afraid for going in 0.0
And how EvE becomes a game full of "carebears" (OH NOOEEZZZZ)...
But if you r NOT complaining, then this post isn't for you.
ALT AGAIN (Kader)
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Lunadi
Minmatar
Solar Trade
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Posted - 2007.12.29 10:01:00 -
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Originally by: umop 3pisdn
The main reasons to shoot everything and anything are:
A) Boredom, there is no penalty for shooting and you dont know when the next target is going to show up
B) Killmails, delicious killmails.
lol. I would agree that these are the main reasons, but hardly find it interesting ;-). It's much more fun when there something that stands behind shooting other than that.
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Lady Beauvoir
Slutty Witches
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Posted - 2007.12.29 11:19:00 -
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Edited by: Lady Beauvoir on 29/12/2007 11:20:49
Originally by: Kader
I just find that shooting on sight anyone who trespass your "house" is very texan....
I guess we were all brought up differently
Well, I hate RL analogies, but if someone came to your "house" armed to teeth, you might be more inclined to shoot them on sight instead of opening the door. Even a frigate is enough to take out miners and haulers, it can scout the area and cyno in a capital fleet.
But enough of that.
EVE is also about empire building: that means claiming a space for you and your friends to do whatever you please. Then you build infrastructure and stations. If you just let anybody in to reap the fruits of your labor, there's very little point in doing all that work as anyone can just step in and take what he wants. Thus, people tend to discourage others from coming to their space by shooting the repeatedly in the face until they decide to stay away. Everyone doesn't understand or heed requests/warnings to leave the space, but they generally don't have a choice in the matter if you shoot them to bits.
There are and have been attempts to do something different as well; usually such organizations have a political agenda to operate in a different mannner. For example, ISS and Tge Big Blue used to operate and CVA operates on policy that anyone is welcome to their space, given that they do not shoot the inhabitants and behave themselves. In general, they perceive that the increased trade and taxes are more beneficial than a closed economy with only the alliance controlling the space uses it. There are drawbacks as well, but it's a tradeoff of sorts.
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DeadDuck
Amarr
Amarr Border Defense Consortium
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.29 11:34:00 -
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In Providence CVA + Silph + Paxton + Severance and others, practice NRDS ( Not Red Dont Shoot ) policy so neutrals are not shot there. Of course if you are caught pirating that will change really fast.
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Xaen
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.12.29 19:58:00 -
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Originally by: Richard Phallus
Originally by: Xaen
Big part of the reason people don't go is it's almost certain to get you blow'd up due to camps at the choke points.
CCP wants people to use 0.0. Players constantly tell other players to go there (see this thread even). Yet it's almost certain death.
People will listen to their own experience before they'll listen to some forum jackass telling them to move to 0.0.
When someone says "move to 0.0" they don't mean pack up your stuff in a hauler and seat yourself out there. They mean find a few hundred of your closest friends form a corp/alliance and go take some nullsec systems.
If you're sick of getting popped at the choke points take them away from the people that are presently doing the popping. Of course by that I mean you and those few hundred of your friends do take it, and then hold it for when they try and take it back.
I mostly play solo. I can and do bust through gate camps, but I rarely have enough firepower to break the camps entirely or supplant anyone's camp. But if you abandon your bubbles, expect to lose them.
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BurningSensation
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Posted - 2007.12.30 03:17:00 -
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you sir ARE a carebear...you are not a pvper. The very fact that you posted this ludicrous topic illustrates that point. People shoot because they can....it's as simple as that. Don't over think this one.....
You go to 0.0 becuse it's fun. Even if you don't like killing...the lack of security makes it so much more fun when you don't die...
Stay in high-sec and quit crying the fact that you are pretending to not be a carebear irritates me...
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Ackaroth
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.12.30 04:15:00 -
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Originally by: Kader
I just find that shooting on sight anyone who trespass your "house" is very texan....
I guess we were all brought up differently
Hey, watch what you say about Texans.
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Militis Kolosok
Caldari
Praetorian BlackGuard
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Posted - 2007.12.30 04:32:00 -
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It's pretty easy to avoid getting popped if you are smart and fly an interceptor or something that can warp cloaked.
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SiJira
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Posted - 2007.12.30 15:43:00 -
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people dont go to 0.0 because veldspar is found in 1.0
people do go to 0.0 because fun pvp can not
guess which group is smaller across the average player population?
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Thunderguts
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2007.12.31 18:45:00 -
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OP, come fly your frigate in my alliance's space any time. Send me an eve-mail before you do, tell me what gate you'll be jumping in from, and what time. Be sure to bring some expensive blueprints, those are like passports in 0.0, you'll be welcome anywhere.
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DigitalCommunist
Obsidian Core
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Posted - 2007.12.31 18:54:00 -
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Crap, all this time I needed a reason to murder witless newbies in the face and watch them write tear-filled eulogies to EVE?
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Lazuran
Gallente
Time And ISK Sink Corporation
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Posted - 2007.12.31 19:03:00 -
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Originally by: DeadDuck
In Providence CVA + Silph + Paxton + Severance and others, practice NRDS ( Not Red Dont Shoot ) policy so neutrals are not shot there. Of course if you are caught pirating that will change really fast.
Does NRDS apply to NPC corps as well?
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