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Kader
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Posted - 2007.12.29 03:10:00 -
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I went to 0 sec many times with my little tech 1 frig. Because I KNOW I will get insta popped if I get locked on. There is no reason whatsoever to go in 0.0 sec with so many people roaming around just to pod the first trarget they can get.
People in 0.0 don't kill for isk, they pod because your there, simply.
It's like an Tribe that start killing all the bulls around without letting them reproduce....after a while there is a lot less bull to kill.
There is no role play, no valid reason to pod. Rats in low sec pod just to pod. And thats what make people more and more afraid to leave empire. Because even though you are not a target worth killing, you will get killed.
I'm not a carebear, I love pvp and I don't want CCP to change anything reguarding the pvp. I'm jusat wondering if getting the maximum amount of killmail really does matter in the end ?
The beauty of EvE is to be able to Kill anyone you want anytime you want in ).0, although I usually need a good reason (reward) to destroy a ship, its seems that 99% of the current pirate in low sec doesn't.
In the end it's not because you CAN kill that you SHOULD kill.
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Richard Phallus
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Posted - 2007.12.29 03:14:00 -
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You were in their space, that's reason enough to kill you. Proof that it was in fact their space, is you in your pod. |

Karyuudo Tydraad
Caldari Whiskey Pete's Drycleaning Services The Acquisition
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Posted - 2007.12.29 03:17:00 -
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Have you considered that they didn't want you in their space? They're trying to discourage people coming into it. That's a plenty good reason to pod.
Not that you need a reason.
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SumDum
AirHawk Alliance Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.12.29 03:18:00 -
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There are reasons to pop anyone and anything in 0.0, especially at choke points. Alt-spy and isk farmer reduction is a big one.
You want into 0.0? Get into a corp, form a gang and push your way in.
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Shaarek
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Posted - 2007.12.29 03:25:00 -
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Well then...fair enough..so why people complain ?
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2007.12.29 03:27:00 -
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Posting in a truth thread.
EVE could be far more interesting if it wasn't for the players. -
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AlleyKat
Gallente White-Noise
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Posted - 2007.12.29 03:27:00 -
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Originally by: Kader In the end it's not because you CAN kill that you SHOULD kill.
If you are not blue to someone, they should engage you.
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Desiderious
Gallente Black Star Corp
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Posted - 2007.12.29 03:30:00 -
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Originally by: Kader There is no role play, no valid reason to pod.
1) Could be an enemy spy or scout. 2) Whats "your space" mean if you cant do what you want in it? 3) Restrict others form using your areas resources. 4) Loot 5) Practice
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Strak Yogorn
Amarr Mind Warpers
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Posted - 2007.12.29 03:30:00 -
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seems to me mostly lowsec pewpew'ers whine about to few targets, when in fact, they are some of the problem that ppl wont go there anymore.
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Kader
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Posted - 2007.12.29 03:33:00 -
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I just find that shooting on sight anyone who trespass your "house" is very texan.... I guess we were all brought up differently 
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Farrellus Cameron
Sturmgrenadier Inc
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Posted - 2007.12.29 03:35:00 -
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Its a video game, nothing about it matters.
You can fly around in 0.0 in more then a frigate if you want to, but you need to know what you are doing. Yes, if you want to be as close to 100% certain you won't get caught and killed as you can, stick to a frigate. And that's why people stay in Empire, because they want to be as close to 100% safe as they can be. If that's how you want to play the game, fine.
In the end it is a MULTIPLAYER game. The best way to travel around 0.0 is with friends. ----------------------------------------------------
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Cadiz
Caldari No Quarter. Vae Victis.
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Posted - 2007.12.29 03:36:00 -
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Originally by: Strak Yogorn seems to me mostly lowsec pewpew'ers whine about to few targets, when in fact, they are some of the problem that ppl wont go there anymore.
Note the "lowsec" bit. Nullsec, on the other hand, is usually pretty good for targets... ------ Director, No Quarter "There is no problem that cannot be solved by the judicious application of violence." |

Kader
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Posted - 2007.12.29 03:36:00 -
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Originally by: Strak Yogorn seems to me mostly lowsec pewpew'ers whine about to few targets, when in fact, they are some of the problem that ppl wont go there anymore.
I hear so many whining from 0.0 rats or corp...but when I ask why people (that has no VALUE dead) are getting KoS'ed, it seems that theyre just "protecting" their home...
Well then, Don't complain I say.
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Kader
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Posted - 2007.12.29 03:39:00 -
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Originally by: Farrellus Cameron Its a video game, nothing about it matters.
You can fly around in 0.0 in more then a frigate if you want to, but you need to know what you are doing. Yes, if you want to be as close to 100% certain you won't get caught and killed as you can, stick to a frigate. And that's why people stay in Empire, because they want to be as close to 100% safe as they can be. If that's how you want to play the game, fine.
In the end it is a MULTIPLAYER game. The best way to travel around 0.0 is with friends.
I only fly in 0 what I can afford to lose, I cant afford to lose a cruiser :)
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Strak Yogorn
Amarr Mind Warpers
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Posted - 2007.12.29 03:41:00 -
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Originally by: Cadiz
Originally by: Strak Yogorn seems to me mostly lowsec pewpew'ers whine about to few targets, when in fact, they are some of the problem that ppl wont go there anymore.
Note the "lowsec" bit. Nullsec, on the other hand, is usually pretty good for targets...
i know, was to say that i mostly find lowsec dwellers whining, not 00 dwellers.
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Igetshotalot
THE LEGION OF STEEL WARRIORS.... R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.12.29 03:46:00 -
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you are an iidiot:)
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy
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Posted - 2007.12.29 03:50:00 -
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I never go to 0.0 without my Trunk Monkey!
Originally by: Tarminic
Okay, that's it. You are on the KOS list, and you better pray that I don't have access to a locater agent. 
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DaiTengu
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.12.29 03:52:00 -
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I don't venture into this forum often, but I thought I'd poke my head in and point out that this is one of the cutest threads I've seen in quite awhile.

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SumDum
AirHawk Alliance Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.12.29 03:53:00 -
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Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny I never go to 0.0 without my Trunk Monkey!
lol those are great!
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Igetshotalot
THE LEGION OF STEEL WARRIORS.... R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.12.29 04:40:00 -
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Edited by: Igetshotalot on 29/12/2007 04:40:47
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Xaen
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.12.29 05:05:00 -
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Originally by: Strak Yogorn seems to me mostly lowsec pewpew'ers whine about to few targets, when in fact, they are some of the problem that ppl wont go there anymore.
That's basically what I was gonna say.
Big part of the reason people don't go is it's almost certain to get you blow'd up due to camps at the choke points.
CCP wants people to use 0.0. Players constantly tell other players to go there (see this thread even). Yet it's almost certain death.
People will listen to their own experience before they'll listen to some forum jackass telling them to move to 0.0. -- Support fixing the EVE UI | Suggest Jita fixes
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Jennai
The Greater Goon GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.12.29 05:09:00 -
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I moved to 0.0 so I could shoot people.
if you have a problem with being shot, you shouldn't be in 0.0 (especially by yourself in a frigate)
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Richard Phallus
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Posted - 2007.12.29 05:14:00 -
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Edited by: Richard Phallus on 29/12/2007 05:14:22
Originally by: Xaen Big part of the reason people don't go is it's almost certain to get you blow'd up due to camps at the choke points.
CCP wants people to use 0.0. Players constantly tell other players to go there (see this thread even). Yet it's almost certain death.
People will listen to their own experience before they'll listen to some forum jackass telling them to move to 0.0.
When someone says "move to 0.0" they don't mean pack up your stuff in a hauler and seat yourself out there. They mean find a few hundred of your closest friends form a corp/alliance and go take some nullsec systems.
If you're sick of getting popped at the choke points take them away from the people that are presently doing the popping. Of course by that I mean you and those few hundred of your friends do take it, and then hold it for when they try and take it back.
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Dirk Magnum
FinFleet Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.12.29 05:20:00 -
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lolling at the very notion of this thread
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Celeste Coeval
The Gosimer and Scarab
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Posted - 2007.12.29 05:21:00 -
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huh?
Originally by: Death Kill Go travel or live in the rainforest if neccesary, just dont turn to religion as its a cul de sac.
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cal nereus
Bounty Hunter - Dark Legion Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2007.12.29 05:29:00 -
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Edited by: cal nereus on 29/12/2007 05:34:21 Edit: You know, on second thought, the OP has a good point.
We are like a bunch of predators running out of prey, but instead of conserving our prey, we slaughter the last remaining ones... I guess because the prey never runs out. Under the current way of doing things prey will usually be slim, but there will always be someone wandering into someone else's chunk of the 0.0 pie.  ---
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tinycat
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Posted - 2007.12.29 05:40:00 -
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0.0 is fine. Remove kill boards and low sec will be fine as well.
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy
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Posted - 2007.12.29 05:46:00 -
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Cal, just find a bottleneck system that you have to go through to get to a trade hub... targets come by all the time
Originally by: Tarminic
Okay, that's it. You are on the KOS list, and you better pray that I don't have access to a locater agent. 
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Hannobaal
Gallente Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.12.29 05:57:00 -
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If you're going to move to 0.0 on your own (it's possible) you better know all the tricks of how to get around safely and be able to take occasional losses. Otherwise join a corp/alliance that already lives there.
0.0 is a war zone and is meant to be. There are no sec status hits in 0.0. So, a lot of people that move out there do it because they like shooting stuff. Hostiles and neutrals are targets. That's just the way it is.
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umop 3pisdn
Minmatar Fnck the blob.
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Posted - 2007.12.29 07:40:00 -
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Originally by: Igetshotalot you are an iidiot:)
Quoting Roadkill looking smart.
To the op: They kill because they can, because its fun, if I kill someone who is genuinely a new player in their first ever cruiser i might feel bad and give them advice but other than that they should know better, its all fair in 0.0.
There are some roleplaying groups out there, like CVA and Jericho Fraction (or star.. whatever) who will only shoot reds, maybe try joining them and dont be part of the problem?
The main reasons to shoot everything and anything are: A) Boredom, there is no penalty for shooting and you dont know when the next target is going to show up B) Killmails, delicious killmails.
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