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DarknessInc
Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy
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Posted - 2007.12.31 10:49:00 -
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Ohh yea. And a comparison to the AR-15's round to that of an AK 47
Quote:
The AK-47 was designed to use the 7.62x39 mm Russian cartridge, whereas the M16 was designed for the 5.56x45 mm NATO.
A brief comparison between cartridges reveals the higher-velocity American cartridge has a significant edge in long range performance, and the Russian cartridge, with a heavier projectile, has better terminal performance due to its heavier weight. The heavier Russian projectile is also better in circumstances where the bullet has to pass through any material. This can prove important in heavy underbrush (which can deflect the lighter 5.56 mm round) but can cause problems in urban combat, where the 7.62 mm projectile might go through a wall that the 5.56 mm bullet can not penetrate, thus possibly causing civilian casualties. Conversely, this allows the shooter to fire through light wall materials such as drywall and cinder-blocks and into an opponent using them as cover.
Quote: The AK-47 was never meant to be an accurate rifle beyond 600 meters since in mobile warfare, distances were covered rather quickly. It also had the advantage of not needing particularly experienced soldiers to be effective - it required very little maintenance, and accuracy wasnĘt very important which was ideal for the large conscript-based Soviet army.
My point? the AR-15 is beaten by the Ak47/74, which is a much more tactically superior choice in a 'zombie' invasion, due to the lack of high maintenance (where you gonna get trained on repairing a AR-15 or getting the replacement parts for something when it breaks)
Originally by: Viator Pilot Now I will go back to agents, already without the desire of adventures on the ass :)
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Avery Fatwallet
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Posted - 2007.12.31 14:50:00 -
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i just discovered that the place i live is a freakin deathtrap: im surrounded by churches, cemetaries and hospitals!
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Avery Fatwallet
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Posted - 2007.12.31 18:34:00 -
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ZOMG NOW I GOT IT! THIS IS A TRAP!
according to wikipedia the word "zombie" originates from a creole word meaning something like "returned spirit". and we all know that saying certain words can invoke stuff.
i heard thats why god has so many names in hebrew.
anyways, this is just a plot to get people to say (think?) the word "zombie" as often as possible, so we invoke the spirits of the dead... now that alone isnt a problem yet.
the problem is the fireworks. i heard the ancient chinese used fireworks at their new year celebrations to scare the ghosts away... so basically we invoke the dead and tell them to **** off right away..
can you see where this is going
thats right.
its going to alaska.
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Fink Angel
Caldari The Merry Men
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Posted - 2007.12.31 18:39:00 -
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Edited by: Fink Angel on 31/12/2007 18:40:15
Originally by: DarknessInc Firearm related stuff
Seeing as bullets generally pass through zombies and just tear them up a bit, can I recommend:
Door Breaching Slug (towards the bottom) Heckler & Koch Grenade Machine Gun
Edit: Grenade Machine Gun Video -
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Sakura Nihil
Stimulus
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Posted - 2007.12.31 18:43:00 -
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Edited by: Sakura Nihil on 31/12/2007 18:45:45
Originally by: DarknessInc
Originally by: Sakura Nihil Comments?
My only comment is change that AR-15 to either an AK74 or an AK47. Very nice rifle with ammo almost anywhere, devasting versus fleshed objects, and requires little to no maintenance whatsoever. And a child can use them without any training beside how to aim and shoot. And maybe how to compensate for the recoil too
EDIT: ohh yea. And if you CAN find a Dragunov, maybe you'll be lucky in a gunstore or something. nab that too. Same like an AK. Little maintenance required, unless you grab one of the poser Dragunov's that have been being sold on the internet as Dragunov's, but arent really REAL Dragunov's
True enough, they'll be a bit harder to find in the US though. Not impossible though.
Originally by: DarknessInc EDIT2: I just remembered. GOODYEAR BLIMP!!! How cool would it be to be in the Goodyear Blimp, with zombies beneath you, and you can fly anywhere. Or even better. Get a Skyscraper, barricade the first floor and then all the stairwells leading up. And make a garden on the roof where sunlight can hit it. Tada. But then the problem is RAIN. Might work for places like London or wherever gets alot of rain
Both are viable options in different degrees. The blimp could be used as a mobile fortress in the sky, and isn't too difficult to fly in theory - problem is supplies. Just like a ship at sea, you'd need a supply base to take care of you, not to mention that you would need to maintain the blimp over time.
The skyscraper is better. You can get a garden, cisterns, and latrines setup depending on the configuration, especially if you're not subject to nasty weather (read: hurricanes, tornadoes, etc.). Trick, like anything, is long-term. Can the food your gardens grow sustain you, how much ammo do you have left, etc.
The other thing is that I'm already trained in M-16 use and maintenance, so that's not the problem. If I were a pure civilian off the street without this knowledge, I'd definitely go for an AK, but knowing how to take care of the M-16 and AR-15 by extension allows me more options.
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Gyfrex
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Posted - 2007.12.31 18:54:00 -
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Personally if I was going to take a rifle, I'd want something small lightweight and accurate, or I'd want something huge innaccurate and very fast firing...so I'd either take something like an SA-80 (bullpup config = shorter + im already trained on one) or an M4, or if I felt so inclined M60 xD ---
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Micheal Dietrich
Caldari The Delta Source
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Posted - 2007.12.31 19:03:00 -
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Forget a gun due to lack of ammunition?!?!?! I've got a 1000 rounds for my ak sitting right by the door and that's just one box! Gun shops have pallets of these. Just grab a big cargo truck and load up the smash into a store and collect some food.
After that sit behind your 20' tall double layered reinforced fence and take potshots at zombies all day while enjoy a nice glass of wine.
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy
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Posted - 2007.12.31 20:04:00 -
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Everyone missing the point that to kill a zombie (for a second time) you gotta cause head trauma! Shotgun FTW!!!
Originally by: Tarminic
Okay, that's it. You are on the KOS list, and you better pray that I don't have access to a locater agent.
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Gyfrex
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Posted - 2007.12.31 20:11:00 -
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Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny Everyone missing the point that to kill a zombie (for a second time) you gotta cause head trauma! Shotgun FTW!!!
Yeah but shotguns need to be close, why not just use some huge caliber rifle (M82 anyone?) and enjoy the turkey shoot from afar while drinking copious amounts of booze and watching old red dwarf episodes ---
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Sister Impotentata
Elite Angels Of Death
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Posted - 2007.12.31 20:11:00 -
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Originally by: Micheal Dietrich
After that sit behind your 20' tall double layered reinforced fence and take potshots at zombies all day while enjoy a nice glass of wine.
Well if I've got one of those, and we're looking for headshots, I'll take some .22 LR and a nice scoped competition rifle. That way my baby sister, or perhaps my dog, can spell me while I use the loo. ----- TANSTAAFL
Originally by: Patricia Arquette
There were lots of stars at night. purple and red and yellow and on fire You don't see that. You might still see it in the desert.
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Micheal Dietrich
Caldari The Delta Source
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Posted - 2007.12.31 20:12:00 -
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Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny Everyone missing the point that to kill a zombie (for a second time) you gotta cause head trauma! Shotgun FTW!!!
Well if all you need is a little head trauma I'll just reloop the Paris Hilton music video
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Gyfrex
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Posted - 2007.12.31 20:14:00 -
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Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Well if all you need is a little head trauma I'll just reloop the Paris Hilton music video
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy
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Posted - 2007.12.31 20:32:00 -
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Originally by: Micheal Dietrich
Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny Everyone missing the point that to kill a zombie (for a second time) you gotta cause head trauma! Shotgun FTW!!!
Well if all you need is a little head trauma I'll just reloop the Paris Hilton music video
Why not just drop a nuke then... same effect, but hurts less
Originally by: Tarminic
Okay, that's it. You are on the KOS list, and you better pray that I don't have access to a locater agent.
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Sister Impotentata
Elite Angels Of Death
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Posted - 2007.12.31 20:52:00 -
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It's the only way to be sure. ----- TANSTAAFL
Originally by: Patricia Arquette
There were lots of stars at night. purple and red and yellow and on fire You don't see that. You might still see it in the desert.
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Gladiator Jonny
Omniscient Order
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Posted - 2008.01.01 01:13:00 -
[75]
zombie plan....
find the bieggest brains first? mKES SENSE REALLY
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Sakura Nihil
Stimulus
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Posted - 2008.01.01 07:21:00 -
[76]
Wins the thread.
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy
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Posted - 2008.01.01 07:33:00 -
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Originally by: Sakura Nihil Wins the thread.
/signed
Originally by: Tarminic
Okay, that's it. You are on the KOS list, and you better pray that I don't have access to a locater agent.
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hattifnatt
Gallente The Movement
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Posted - 2008.01.01 14:02:00 -
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Originally by: Sakura Nihil Wins the thread.
Was posted on page 1 you fail. i suxz at grammar, k? |
DarknessInc
Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy
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Posted - 2008.01.01 15:26:00 -
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Edited by: DarknessInc on 01/01/2008 15:35:10
Originally by: Sakura Nihil Skyscraper stuff
If you can raid a home depot thingy and build a secure enough barricade down below to the point where its steel reinforced and its going to be a hard chance in hell a zombie would get through.
If possible you can try to get a skyscraper with a helipad for landing and refueling, convert the area AROUND the helipad into a garden, maybe even spend time clearing out and entire floor and coverting the outer area into a garden right next to the windows and such. Would take alot of time but if you take the time to set it up, you could get food. Dunno I gotta research the plans to make huge food factory gardens in skyscraper like buildings.
Its actually a bio-modern idea someone else thought up
Roof top Gardens
Originally by: Viator Pilot Now I will go back to agents, already without the desire of adventures on the ass :)
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Avery Fatwallet
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Posted - 2008.01.01 15:40:00 -
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Edited by: Avery Fatwallet on 01/01/2008 15:41:00 okay...
first of all... if you guys plan to hole up, well your choice. imho building a fortress is a bad idea for several reasons:
its a hotspot. survivors will notice. zombies will notice. in the end you just got a bog cluster**** waiting to happen. the situation will only get worse, if you stay concentrated in one place. the noise and moaning of the attacking/approaching zombies would only draw more zombies.
now even if youre fortified perfectly, theres a chance you overlooked one simple eventuality. and if its only the fact that piles of dead bodies will build a ramp to overcome your walls sooner or later.
skyscraper might be a bit better, but i wouldnt go there. were living in a postapocalyptic setting, and youre spending probably months to get a skyscraper up and running. well...
i think a skyscraper in a postapocalyptic setting is prone to earthquakes, weather and fire. id rather take a building... not as high. but then we got the piling bodies problem again.
well, to make a long story short: fortification might be a bad idea.
i think my zombie plan is developing into stealth, silence, light equipment and a biclyce with a set of full-rubber-tires (dunno english word. the ones without air in it. like rubber foam. drives without problem even when full of nails and glass. only a bit heavier.)
if i can get hold of a shotgun, ill probably take it with me. but ammo for shotguns is heavy and bulky (comparatively) since im not one of you freaks that is going to take a tank or hummvee or what not.
im always saying: if our world goes down, no reason to transfer the old problems into the new world.
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DeMundus
The Establishment Establishment
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Posted - 2008.01.01 16:56:00 -
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Well as stated here in this post you have to cause head trauma to the Zombies - Id present 'em to my ex-girlfriend. Abandon all hope But take care of teh cake!11 - Immy |
The Jawbreaker
Minmatar Toys R Us
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Posted - 2008.01.01 17:14:00 -
[82]
first of i would call my brother and give him these precise instructions. "get over here and bring my vaseline a banana and some duct tape"
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Krexus
Amarr Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.01 17:18:00 -
[83]
Originally by: The Jawbreaker first of i would call my brother and give him these precise instructions. "get over here and bring my vaseline a banana and some duct tape"
Interesting.... why your brother?
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The Jawbreaker
Minmatar Toys R Us
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Posted - 2008.01.01 17:22:00 -
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Originally by: Krexus [Interesting.... why your brother?
i have a stash at his place for him to sa***uard incase i need it. you know vaseline doesn¦t grow on trees around here
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Kirjava
Lothian Quay Industries Zzz
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Posted - 2008.01.01 19:39:00 -
[85]
After a drunken new years debate over this, we came to the conclusion we would steal the Royal Yaught Brittania and try live there rounding up survivors to take back to Britain to remove the Zombies from there and rebuild civilisation from there.
~Nyron
Originally by: SoftRevolution Not liking Haruhi is like not liking puppies or rainbows or whisky.
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Dommie Jax
Caldari Bittercup LTD
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Posted - 2008.01.04 16:13:00 -
[86]
My plan to this is long oft thought out
I would head to my local police station, stopping off at Dale Barracks which lies between them, at the Dale barracks i would try to locate living people and a gun ( i would already have a large pointy knife from my kitchen before i set off adn would have robbed the Quad the guy round the corner from me keeps in his garage)
Once at police station i would then locate teh ARV and get the police issue weapons from there, i would then head into Chester to the supply store and obtain backpack and survival gear (change clothes for combats if necessary, also gasless heaters, cooking gear etc)
Sling these onto the back of my quad adn then head out, i would keep looking and see if i could find other living people, if encountering i would attempt evasion before fighting,
I would then with whatever survivors i have found head up to the queens Balmoral estate (nice walls around it, lots of hunting ground around and also its own sustainable hydroelectric power source)
Now hopefully i would have found some technically minded people, if necessary i would send a small recon group to locate a library etc and bring back technical supplies that may be needed
Now with luck having avoided detection for what should be no more than a week, it would be time to begin building supply dumps and 'Bravo' Sites around the area, with the firearms from ARV units and local army barracks we should be able to arm everyone
now to those people who say 'bullets run out' that why locating and securing the British Army Supply depot (down south somewhere massive warehouses full of military gear) in order to obtain supplies needed, would meanwhile be building a Day of the living dead (think it was that one , the last one george romaro made) mobile HQ that would be used to break out or re-inforce the main base
By then we would hopefully have several supply depots, quite a few survivors and access to an escape route, then its just a case of gathering together people
(one idea we had that is feasible but is time intensive is to use a local cargo container storage area to ship cargo containers to form barricade and bottlenecks in order to defend a perimeter that would allow teh main camp time to evacuate before the zombies overtake the perimeter)
After all in orde to prevent crossbreeding within a group of survivors you only need 5k people (50/50 men women) of breeding age, then just go mad breeding :)
Originally by: Lamiah You do realize that 1am in the morning for you is 11am for someone else in the world, right?
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Menkaure
Amarr Vanitas Corp.
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Posted - 2008.01.04 16:33:00 -
[87]
All we need is lots and lots of drills
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Bin Matar
Fallen Angel's Blade.
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Posted - 2008.01.04 18:14:00 -
[88]
Id treat their poor seeping wounds and fungal infections
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Tortun Nahme
Minmatar Heimatar Services Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.01.04 18:19:00 -
[89]
1: Lock the door 2: Play solitaire 3: ???? 4: Profit!
Originally by: Cecil Montague They should change that warning on entering low sec to:
"Go read Crime and Punishment for a few days then come back."
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Amantus
Gallente Murientor Tribe
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Posted - 2008.01.04 18:23:00 -
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I'd groan and shamble around. ------------
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