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0raven0 Duragon Pioneer Group GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.12.30 05:35:00 - [1] Quote: Skill Training - Queue or Dual training This could enable players to either queue skills so that when one level finishes the next level in that skill starts training automatically, or another preset skill starts training automatically. Dual training would enable you to have a primary long-term skill in training with a secondary short-term skill sharing the training time. After a level in the secondary skill has trained, the primary skill trains at full speed again. This has been something they mentioned would happen for over a year, and its still on the drawing board, not even in development or anything. Does anyone know for when this is planned to arrive? ------ Quote: tuxford: AT LEAST ITS SPEELED CORRECTLY tuxford: spelled* Oveur: rofl
Tek'a Rain Gallente Collegium Mechanicae	Posted - 2007.12.30 06:11:00 - [2] Dunno if they Ever said it Would happen, outside a mention that they may, possibly, consider looking over and investigating the situation, working on an action plan to control and regulate the off-chance that they could, in fact, think about it. maybe.
Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Elite	Posted - 2007.12.30 06:24:00 - [3] Originally by: Tek'a Rain Dunno if they Ever said it Would happen, outside a mention that they may, possibly, consider looking over and investigating the situation, working on an action plan to control and regulate the off-chance that they could, in fact, think about it. maybe. Or to shorten it down, keep praying. Welcome to EvE
DroneBay Diva The Fated Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.12.30 06:40:00 - [4] Never going to happen. _____________________________________________________________________________
0raven0 Duragon Pioneer Group GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.12.30 15:29:00 - [5] Why do you think it would never happen. And yes when they were originally talking about it they said it would definitely happen and happen soon. ------ Quote: tuxford: AT LEAST ITS SPEELED CORRECTLY tuxford: spelled* Oveur: rofl
Niccolado Starwalker Shadow Templars	Posted - 2007.12.30 15:52:00 - [6] Edited by: Niccolado Starwalker on 30/12/2007 15:52:20 Originally by: 0raven0 Quote: Skill Training - Queue or Dual training This could enable players to either queue skills so that when one level finishes the next level in that skill starts training automatically, or another preset skill starts training automatically. Dual training would enable you to have a primary long-term skill in training with a secondary short-term skill sharing the training time. After a level in the secondary skill has trained, the primary skill trains at full speed again. This has been something they mentioned would happen for over a year, and its still on the drawing board, not even in development or anything. Does anyone know for when this is planned to arrive? If you call the drawingboard an ideaboard you are closer to what it really is. Its a section for ideas that might be introduced, or ideas CCP are fiddling with, and wants input on. I dont think any ideas appearing in this section means the same as it will be introduced. Originally by: Abrazzar OP needs to delete his boot.ini.
Taint Caldari The Ankou The Reckoning.	Posted - 2007.12.30 16:18:00 - [7] hope it comes in a 1000 years, Goons buy your chars if the ones you have dont got SP enough.
Triath Lon Caldari Keepers of Balance Legion of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2007.12.30 16:26:00 - [8] Originally by: Taint hope it comes in a 1000 years, Goons buy your chars if the ones you have dont got SP enough. I think that Taint guy has some hostility harbored towards Goons... and doesn't understand, why skill queue is important to us all. ________ Sig will, eventually, appear here.
Verone Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.12.30 16:26:00 - [9] Originally by: 0raven0 Why do you think it would never happen. Because CCP actually want people to log in and play the game, not sit and queue skills to go inactive for months at a time. >>> TRIBUTE TO A FALLEN WINGMAN <<<
Lazuran Gallente Time And ISK Sink Corporation	Posted - 2007.12.30 16:34:00 - [10] Originally by: Verone Originally by: 0raven0 Why do you think it would never happen. Because CCP actually want people to log in and play the game, not sit and queue skills to go inactive for months at a time. Then they could at least make a skill queue that you can fill for up to 24h ... It's awful that people have the choice of either staying up 2h / logging on from work or training some skill they don't need right now... Disclaimer: I do not speak for the fanbois.
Zeknichov Life. Universe. Everything.	Posted - 2007.12.30 18:55:00 - [11] Originally by: Verone Originally by: 0raven0 Why do you think it would never happen. Because CCP actually want people to log in and play the game, not sit and queue skills to go inactive for months at a time. Here's a solution. You can't queue skills past 30 days. That was easy.
0raven0 Duragon Pioneer Group GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.12.30 19:26:00 - [12] Originally by: Verone Originally by: 0raven0 Why do you think it would never happen. Because CCP actually want people to log in and play the game, not sit and queue skills to go inactive for months at a time. people are already logging in just to change a skill and then logging off until it needs to be changed. implementing this would not change anything in the game. The people who log on just to change a skill simply would log on less than they already do, and the people who play a lot would still play a lot. ------ Quote: tuxford: AT LEAST ITS SPEELED CORRECTLY tuxford: spelled* Oveur: rofl
Xoduse Gallente Beasts of Burden YouWhat	Posted - 2007.12.30 19:46:00 - [13] Originally by: 0raven0 Originally by: Verone Originally by: 0raven0 Why do you think it would never happen. Because CCP actually want people to log in and play the game, not sit and queue skills to go inactive for months at a time. people are already logging in just to change a skill and then logging off until it needs to be changed. implementing this would not change anything in the game. The people who log on just to change a skill simply would log on less than they already do, and the people who play a lot would still play a lot. Exactly, the difference is we don't have to interrupt our real lives when we don't have the intention of playing in the first place. Not being able to queue past 30 days sounds great, but even 7days or 24 hours is fine too. It's a pain to start a new skill tree and have to change skills every few hours, somtimes minutes. I know a few friends who I failed to get interested in this game b/c they didn't like the fact that they'd have to log in all the time just to not fall behind in training. --------------------------------- Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed dimensions of 400x120 pixels -Valorem ([email protected])
Traeon Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.12.30 19:51:00 - [14] Edited by: Traeon on 30/12/2007 19:52:59 Quote: Then they could at least make a skill queue that you can fill for up to 24h ... It's awful that people have the choice of either staying up 2h / logging on from work or training some skill they don't need right now... Agreed. Let us queue as many skills as we want as long as the total training time of the queued skills doesn't exceed 24 hours, or even 48. I know CCP wants to open up the game for more people, this would be an important step to take, as it's pretty much impossible to train your skills in the beginning without having to constantly log on.
Xaen Caldari Thunder Muffin	Posted - 2007.12.30 19:52:00 - [15] Originally by: 0raven0 Why do you think it would never happen. And yes when they were originally talking about it they said it would definitely happen and happen soon. Because CCP's ** is all apart. Just listen to the latest audio dev blog. It's very enlightening in terms of how amateur their development process is. There's not even coordination between developers to make sure they don't make a single change inconsistently to different modules (see the module size changes for example). Or the fact that the enter button in the contract window doesn't start a search. You have to *** type your criteria, then click. -- Support fixing the EVE UI \| Suggest Jita fixes**
Tamia Clant New Dawn Corp New Eden Research	Posted - 2007.12.30 19:54:00 - [16] Originally by: Xoduse Originally by: 0raven0 Originally by: Verone Originally by: 0raven0 Why do you think it would never happen. Because CCP actually want people to log in and play the game, not sit and queue skills to go inactive for months at a time. people are already logging in just to change a skill and then logging off until it needs to be changed. implementing this would not change anything in the game. The people who log on just to change a skill simply would log on less than they already do, and the people who play a lot would still play a lot. Exactly, the difference is we don't have to interrupt our real lives when we don't have the intention of playing in the first place. Not being able to queue past 30 days sounds great, but even 7days or 24 hours is fine too. It's a pain to start a new skill tree and have to change skills every few hours, somtimes minutes. I know a few friends who I failed to get interested in this game b/c they didn't like the fact that they'd have to log in all the time just to not fall behind in training. Pretty much agreed on all points. Get a skill queue implemented CCP! Looking for queue-free research slots? Click here!
0raven0 Duragon Pioneer Group GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.12.30 19:58:00 - [17] omg, i just hit the report button instead of quote button on Tamia Clant's post 0_0 Anyway, I think the game would definitely gain more players if this was implemented. This = cash CCP, make it happen please. ------ Quote: tuxford: AT LEAST ITS SPEELED CORRECTLY tuxford: spelled* Oveur: rofl
Xaen Caldari Thunder Muffin	Posted - 2007.12.30 20:00:00 - [18] Originally by: Tamia Clant Pretty much agreed on all points. Get a skill queue implemented CCP! Agreed. I've never asked for a skill queue that I could fill up for 3 years of training, then cancel my account for two yeas, then come back and lose a titan due to lolexperience. I just want to be able to train five to ten 20 minute to 3 hour skills back to back without having to camp at my damn computer. I mean isn't that half the point of an offline training system? You don't have to grind? The way it works out you have to do something MORE boring. Sit there and babysit your character window. Yay! Fun! -- Support fixing the EVE UI \| Suggest Jita fixes
Nyx Avatar	Posted - 2007.12.30 20:02:00 - [19] Sad really I don't know of ONE player who wouldn't love this to be put in.... But what do the players opinion matter?
Selene Le'Cotiere Amarr I-Omniscient-I	Posted - 2007.12.30 20:04:00 - [20] Originally by: Verone Originally by: 0raven0 Why do you think it would never happen. Because CCP actually want people to log in and play the game, not sit and queue skills to go inactive for months at a time. Well, a fix for that is if you account goes inactive (i.e. not payed) skills you have training are stopped. _________ "Some would call me a Demon. Others, a Vampire. But if the truth be told... I'm a daughter of the moon and a Goddess among men."
NightF0x Gallente Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.12.30 20:04:00 - [21] Edited by: NightF0x on 30/12/2007 20:05:41 Originally by: Nyx Avatar Sad really I don't know of ONE player who wouldn't love this to be put in... I hope that they don't implement it. Changing skills and having to work around a schedule is what makes skill training 24/7 somewhat exciting. You learn to exchange 2-3 hours of skill training for sleep. Hell last night I decided to let a skill run out at 3am rather than changing it to a longer one. Yeah I lost 5 hours of training time but I have learned that it doesn't really matter in the long haul. So what if you miss out on a few hours of training. It doesn't gimp your character. Remember SP training is not a race because there are people with a 4 year head start.
SiJira	Posted - 2007.12.30 20:13:00 - [22] either you start a long skill you might need or start a 2 hour skill you need immediately and deal with it Trashed sig, Shark was here
Xaen Caldari Thunder Muffin	Posted - 2007.12.30 20:16:00 - [23] Originally by: NightF0x Edited by: NightF0x on 30/12/2007 20:05:41 Originally by: Nyx Avatar Sad really I don't know of ONE player who wouldn't love this to be put in... I hope that they don't implement it. Changing skills and having to work around a schedule is what makes skill training 24/7 somewhat exciting. You learn to exchange 2-3 hours of skill training for sleep. Hell last night I decided to let a skill run out at 3am rather than changing it to a longer one. Yeah I lost 5 hours of training time but I have learned that it doesn't really matter in the long haul. So what if you miss out on a few hours of training. It doesn't gimp your character. Remember SP training is not a race because there are people with a 4 year head start. Don't want it? Don't use it. Let those of us that do want it use it. -- Support fixing the EVE UI \| Suggest Jita fixes
Strak Yogorn Amarr Mind Warpers	Posted - 2007.12.30 20:22:00 - [24] just train the skills like everyone else, this isnt an instant gratification game you know. theres already plenty of char farming going on as it is.
Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Elite	Posted - 2007.12.30 20:23:00 - [25] Originally by: NightF0x You learn to exchange 2-3 hours of skill training for sleep. Any game where you have to exchange sleep for something, is fataly flawed, it shouldnt be a question between sleep and game. Welcome to EvE
Xaen Caldari Thunder Muffin	Posted - 2007.12.30 20:27:00 - [26] Originally by: Strak Yogorn just train the skills like everyone else, this isnt an instant gratification game you know. theres already plenty of char farming going on as it is. Yeah cause we never want to do anything that makes a legal, if despised game activity easier even if it helps the 150,000 regular users. That would be silly! -- Support fixing the EVE UI \| Suggest Jita fixes
SiJira	Posted - 2007.12.30 20:31:00 - [27] Edited by: SiJira on 30/12/2007 20:33:12 Originally by: Xaen Yeah cause we never want to do anything that makes a legal, if despised game activity easier even if it helps the 150,000 regular users. That would be silly! Originally by: Blane Xero Any game where you have to exchange sleep for something, is fataly flawed, it shouldnt be a question between sleep and game. the game isnt flawed but the thinking is if you just started the game there are a number of skills at level 3 and 4 that you can train for over a day if you are older than two weeks and dont have any skills that train longer than two days you are doing something wrong also consider logging in - before - you go to sleep and changing a skill even if the previous one isnt finished - it might be a novel idea you didnt think of but it works Trashed sig, Shark was here
SiJira	Posted - 2007.12.30 20:41:00 - [28] Edited by: SiJira on 30/12/2007 20:41:55 Originally by: Xaen Cause if we don't play the game YOU do, we're doing it wrong! Nothing wrong with that perspective. Forgive me for having a real life and wanting the game to get better rather than forcing me to adapt to it by using less than optimal planning. If you don't like the idea, no one's going to force you to use the queue. right right you have a real life because you are stressed over losing a few sps in this internet spaceships game oh my im sorry lets all play your way and make this a meta game where you can train all your skills for the month on the 1st and then order all the items you need from 5 jumps around from a non player entity in an -mm-orpg yup lets pretend we are you and are not forcing a gamebreaking change on others and call the people disagreeing as the ones forcing others to play their way Trashed sig, Shark was here
Xaen Caldari Thunder Muffin	Posted - 2007.12.30 20:44:00 - [29] Originally by: SiJira right right you have a real life because you are stressed over losing a few sps in this internet spaceships game Flame. Originally by: SiJira oh my im sorry lets all play your way and make this a meta game where you can train all your skills for the month on the 1st and then order all the items you need from 5 jumps around from a non player entity in an -mm-orpg Straw man. Originally by: SiJira yup lets pretend we are you and are not forcing a gamebreaking change on others and call the people disagreeing as the ones forcing others to play their way appeal to emotion I nominate you for worst poster of the week! -- Support fixing the EVE UI \| Suggest Jita fixes
SiJira	Posted - 2007.12.30 20:56:00 - [30] Edited by: SiJira on 30/12/2007 20:57:03 Trashed sig, Shark was here

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