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ian papabear
The 0bvious Mining Corp
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Posted - 2012.02.08 10:33:00 -
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so two nights i was sitting outside jita buying items for my nightmare, and low and behold out comes a thanotos undocking from jita 4 4.... it warped off to the cluster gates then came back and sat in front of the station and released all its fighters... i know that carriers were once built in high sec but from what im hearing they werent build in jita... so how did this player manage to have his carrier in jita? |
eddie valvetino
Snuff Box
0
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Posted - 2012.02.08 10:35:00 -
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not sure
but i'm fairly sure using caps in combat in high sec is an exploit
Edd |
baltec1
569
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Posted - 2012.02.08 10:37:00 -
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That is a very old ship and has not been seen for quite some time. |
Cebraio
Starfire Oasis
4
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Posted - 2012.02.08 10:39:00 -
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Pretty sure they also have been built in Jita and they can stay there, if they stick to the rules. |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
2403
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Posted - 2012.02.08 11:48:00 -
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That ship should be moved as it has never been "legal", that is a GM screwup.
Carriers have only been able to be produced in systems up to 0.7 (while the arrays were anchored) - and since Jita is 0.9 the only way for it to get there is it being reimbursed by a GM that didn't check the system.
Petition it.
/c
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1989
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Posted - 2012.02.08 11:54:00 -
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stranger things have happened
i.e. a nulli secunda titan in Rens (cripes) yeah no i'm not actually running for csm7
got you lol!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Cebraio
Starfire Oasis
4
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Posted - 2012.02.08 12:12:00 -
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Chribba wrote:That ship should be moved as it has never been "legal", that is a GM screwup.
Carriers have only been able to be produced in systems up to 0.7 (while the arrays were anchored) - and since Jita is 0.9 the only way for it to get there is it being reimbursed by a GM that didn't check the system.
Petition it.
/c Ok, I didn't know it wasn't built there. Still, I don't think its mere existence is a reason to petition and remove it. (Unless he used the fighters for combat.) Don't be so jealous about it Chribba.
I think it's nice to have some capitals in high sec to show them to the new players. |
Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
62
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Posted - 2012.02.08 12:29:00 -
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Cebraio wrote: I think it's nice to have some capitals in high sec to show them to the new players.
As long as it was not used in combat, I'm sure quite a few of the newer players got a thrill seeing it there.
I also dont see a problem with it, gives the game some 'history'.
Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
2404
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Posted - 2012.02.08 13:03:00 -
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No jealousy here, since i have my fleet of capitals in high-sec already. And while yes it's nice for new people to see them, imo it's all about the history and the rarity of said items and their history of days past.
GMs reimbursing them left and right (yeah I know that's not really the case) makes them less "historic" imo and it they don't really have any history, just a GM not paying attention when reimbursing a ship.
True ships are imo far more historic since they are the from the old days. New pilots can get the whole history of it as well, how at a point in time things could be built there, and even put a RP on it saying like concord changed the restrictions etc.
/c
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Dard Reguloni
Double-Down Narwhals Ate My Duck
0
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Posted - 2012.02.08 13:05:00 -
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I too saw it yesterday, not entirely sure how it got to Jita, as i don't think you were ever able to build cap ships in a .9 system. According to the article linked above,
"Please note that it was never possible to create Carriers in systems with security status higher than 0.7. Carriers that somehow find their way into 0.8 and higher will be moved into lowsec by Gamemasters"
It did not however aggress anyone. Simply showing off is not against the rules. |
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Cebraio
Starfire Oasis
4
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Posted - 2012.02.08 13:12:00 -
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@Chribba: Good point, that the appearance of capitals in 0.8 and above actually contradicts the history of the whole carriers in Hi-Sec history.
But then what about the Veldnaught in Amarr? It would have to go as well?
Edit: I see, it was possible to build dreadnoughts in 1.0 back in 2005, but it's never been possible to build carriers in 0.8 and above. |
Sverige Pahis
Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation
644
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Posted - 2012.02.08 13:46:00 -
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Chribba wrote:No jealousy here, since i have my fleet of capitals in high-sec already. And while yes it's nice for new people to see them, imo it's all about the history and the rarity of said items and their history of days past.
GMs reimbursing them left and right (yeah I know that's not really the case) makes them less "historic" imo and it they don't really have any history, just a GM not paying attention when reimbursing a ship.
True ships are imo far more historic since they are the from the old days. New pilots can get the whole history of it as well, how at a point in time things could be built there, and even put a RP on it saying like concord changed the restrictions etc.
/c
There's absolutely no reason why you should have a monopoly on capitals in highsec. You come off as jealous. |
Ifly Uwalk
Concentrated Evil Mining For Profit Alliance
159
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Posted - 2012.02.08 14:16:00 -
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Sverige Pahis wrote:Chribba wrote:No jealousy here, since i have my fleet of capitals in high-sec already. And while yes it's nice for new people to see them, imo it's all about the history and the rarity of said items and their history of days past.
GMs reimbursing them left and right (yeah I know that's not really the case) makes them less "historic" imo and it they don't really have any history, just a GM not paying attention when reimbursing a ship.
True ships are imo far more historic since they are the from the old days. New pilots can get the whole history of it as well, how at a point in time things could be built there, and even put a RP on it saying like concord changed the restrictions etc.
/c There's absolutely no reason why you should have a monopoly on capitals in highsec. You come off as jealous. No he doesn't. He comes off as someone who's concerned about the history of high-sec capitals. I bet he has no problem with the Sobaseki Phoenix. |
eddie valvetino
Snuff Box
0
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Posted - 2012.02.08 14:52:00 -
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Jint Hikaru wrote:Cebraio wrote: I think it's nice to have some capitals in high sec to show them to the new players.
As long as it was not used in combat, I'm sure quite a few of the newer players got a thrill seeing it there. I also dont see a problem with it, gives the game some 'history'.
I have to say, I fully agree with this, if the ship is not being used in combat or to assist combat ships, via reps, gang bonuses or any projected mods, does it really matter?
I also agree, that there is something pretty cool for a newer player to "see" their first capital ship, even better for them if they don't then die
Edd |
Aiwha
101st Space Marine Force Nulli Secunda
127
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Posted - 2012.02.08 16:10:00 -
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Andski wrote:stranger things have happened
i.e. a nulli secunda titan in Rens (cripes)
Party don't start till our titans jump in. Regards,
LCpl. Aiwha-á Senior Recruiter |
Serene Repose
Perkone Caldari State
222
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Posted - 2012.02.08 17:20:00 -
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Chribba wrote:No jealousy here, since i have my fleet of capitals in high-sec already. And while yes it's nice for new people to see them, imo it's all about the history and the rarity of said items and their history of days past.
GMs reimbursing them left and right (yeah I know that's not really the case) makes them less "historic" imo and it they don't really have any history, just a GM not paying attention when reimbursing a ship.
True ships are imo far more historic since they are the from the old days. New pilots can get the whole history of it as well, how at a point in time things could be built there, and even put a RP on it saying like concord changed the restrictions etc.
/c Hear! Hear! Nice to learn someone gave folks a blast from the past...pardon the pun. It was merely a flyby.
Smokestack lightnin' shinin' just like gold. |
supersexysucker
Uber Awesome Fantastico Awesomeness Group
58
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Posted - 2012.02.08 18:06:00 -
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Thread needs more tears bout a cap in jita. Who cares...
Worried about caps in HS, then move them *ALL* to lowsec. |
Bloodpetal
Mimidae Risk Solutions
428
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Posted - 2012.02.08 20:21:00 -
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Ifly Uwalk wrote: No he doesn't. He comes off as someone who's concerned about the history of high-sec capitals. I bet he has no problem with the Sobaseki Phoenix.
Chribba jealousy is best jealousy. Mimidae Risk Solutions Recruiting |
Xercodo
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Dark Matter Coalition
873
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Posted - 2012.02.08 20:42:00 -
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Like this? The Drake is a Lie |
R0Y4L
Scifried Strategic Military Industries
4
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Posted - 2012.02.08 20:51:00 -
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its fine .. anyone that had a capital in highsec before they made the changes/restrictions got to keep it there ... there are 2 revs in amarr system that ive seen and a carrier aswell IF-á YOU-á-á DONT-á WANNA-á DIE-á DONT-á FLY-á-á |
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leich
Sad Panda'z Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
13
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Posted - 2012.02.10 19:02:00 -
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There was also an explioit a few patches back
it allowed people to put caps into the cargo hold of ships.
i know quiet a few were moved into high sec in this way.
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Sloppy Podfarts
Hedion University Amarr Empire
6
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Posted - 2012.02.10 19:04:00 -
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leich wrote:There was also an explioit a few patches back
it allowed people to put caps into the cargo hold of ships.
i know quiet a few were moved into high sec in this way.
Shady.
I like it. |
Mashie Saldana
Veto. Veto Corp
404
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Posted - 2012.02.10 19:15:00 -
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You want a cap ship in highsec? All it takes is a bit of patience.
Step 1, set medical clone to high sec station of interest. Step 2, undock in the ship you want moving and log out at a safe. Step 3, unsub for 6 months. Step 4, resub and enjoy your ship now docked in your clone station.
There are a LOT of super carriers docked in highsec due to this "feature". Dominique Vasilkovsky Mashie Saldana Monica Foulkes |
Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
337
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Posted - 2012.02.10 23:55:00 -
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Cebraio wrote:Chribba wrote:That ship should be moved as it has never been "legal", that is a GM screwup.
Carriers have only been able to be produced in systems up to 0.7 (while the arrays were anchored) - and since Jita is 0.9 the only way for it to get there is it being reimbursed by a GM that didn't check the system.
Petition it.
/c Ok, I didn't know it wasn't built there. Still, I don't think its mere existence is a reason to petition and remove it. (Unless he used the fighters for combat.) Don't be so jealous about it Chribba. I think it's nice to have some capitals in high sec to show them to the new players. Yah... I agree with these guys. There are a lot of ways to scam and be tricky in this game. I wish I had been smart enough to buy a high sec cap before selling them was disallowed. Sadly I was not. GM screwup or not, I like seeing unusual ships in places they shouldn't be. Leave the high sec caps alone I say... they have enough rules to deal with...
...and now that I think about it... isn't there a ship in some system called the "Veldnought" or something?
...and isn't that a cap? ...in high sec?
EDIT: Didn't read responces in thread after quote... but it still holds. Hate the game not the playa' C
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K33dra
0ne Percent. Transmission Lost
1
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Posted - 2012.02.22 15:26:00 -
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Mashie Saldana wrote:You want a cap ship in highsec? All it takes is a bit of patience.
Step 1, set medical clone to high sec station of interest. Step 2, undock in the ship you want moving and log out at a safe. Step 3, unsub for 6 months. Step 4, resub and enjoy your ship now docked in your clone station.
There are a LOT of super carriers docked in highsec due to this "feature".
that is the best explanation for how i ended up in jita with the thanny
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/190/keedra2.gif/
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Schmacos tryne
Norsk Testosteron
15
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Posted - 2012.02.22 15:41:00 -
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Who gives crap about history, This is about the future not the past.
Elements which doesen't belong in the game according to current rules should be (re)moved/reimbursed. But as usual CCP is to god dam CHICKEN to do something proper for once.
As mentioned in this thread a lot of these "caps" are there due to errors and shady methods. So the BIG question is, why does CCP allow these things???
Oh yeah I forgot... Some players are more worth then others <--- CCP POKE |
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GM Homonoia
Game Masters C C P Alliance
289
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Posted - 2012.02.22 16:40:00 -
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Mashie Saldana wrote:You want a cap ship in highsec? All it takes is a bit of patience.
Step 1, set medical clone to high sec station of interest. Step 2, undock in the ship you want moving and log out at a safe. Step 3, unsub for 6 months. Step 4, resub and enjoy your ship now docked in your clone station.
There are a LOT of super carriers docked in highsec due to this "feature".
This is pretty much the cause for almost all cases where a capital ship ends up in high sec space. This is a very old mechanic, predating capital ships, that had some unintended consequences. This hole will be closed at some point in time. Up until then, please file a petition if your capital ship (or someone else's) ends up in high sec that way and a GM will correct the issue. Senior GM Homonoia | Info Group | Senior Game Master |
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Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
815
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Posted - 2012.02.22 16:46:00 -
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Aiwha wrote:Andski wrote:stranger things have happened
i.e. a nulli secunda titan in Rens (cripes) Party don't start till our titans jump in.
Too late PL is already there with 300 giant dildos, 200 plate pussies and their hundreds of cockroaches
They're followed by Raiden with about same fleet in back up just in case. |
Jen'isand Rul
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.02.22 16:52:00 -
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K33dra wrote:Mashie Saldana wrote:You want a cap ship in highsec? All it takes is a bit of patience.
Step 1, set medical clone to high sec station of interest. Step 2, undock in the ship you want moving and log out at a safe. Step 3, unsub for 6 months. Step 4, resub and enjoy your ship now docked in your clone station.
There are a LOT of super carriers docked in highsec due to this "feature". that is the best explanation for how i ended up in jita with the thanny http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/190/keedra2.gif/
Ah i see. Well i gotta say as a new player (had another character, but disliked the name) the one goal that's on my horizon, that I want to accomplish the most, is getting a highsec capital and mining with it. I see that you aren't allowed to buy or sell highsec capitals, does this mean there's no way for me to ever attain one of eve's iconic ships with the guarantee it won't be placed in lowsec?
I understand that since I wasn't around in the days of the highsec capital I may not be able to achieve my goal, but it's nice to dream right? (don't answer)
(please note I'd want to get an original capital which was made in highsec, and the transfer would have to basically be ccp approved) |
Schmacos tryne
Norsk Testosteron
15
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Posted - 2012.02.22 16:56:00 -
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GM Homonoia wrote:Mashie Saldana wrote:You want a cap ship in highsec? All it takes is a bit of patience.
Step 1, set medical clone to high sec station of interest. Step 2, undock in the ship you want moving and log out at a safe. Step 3, unsub for 6 months. Step 4, resub and enjoy your ship now docked in your clone station.
There are a LOT of super carriers docked in highsec due to this "feature". This is pretty much the cause for almost all cases where a capital ship ends up in high sec space. This is a very old mechanic, predating capital ships, that had some unintended consequences. This hole will be closed at some point in time. Up until then, please file a petition if your capital ship (or someone else's) ends up in high sec that way and a GM will correct the issue.
Seems to me it would be a whole lot easier for you to move ALL unintended ships out of Hi-sec then waitiung for the players to do it for you. You do know that this opens up a loophole where say... popular player can keep their ships while the average player may not.
This is a job for YOU not for the playerbase. |
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Sardon Darkstar
DoubleDutchClan Apocalypse Now.
15
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Posted - 2012.02.22 18:17:00 -
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Hey, why not move both the clone and the cap to a station in Jove space, where he or she is greeted by a blob of angry Jovians at the undock? They can then place a bumper sticker on their shiney noob ship saying "I didn't want that carrier anyway". |
Jace Errata
Lawlz Brawlz
104
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Posted - 2012.02.22 18:25:00 -
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Schmacos tryne wrote:GM Homonoia wrote:Mashie Saldana wrote:You want a cap ship in highsec? All it takes is a bit of patience.
Step 1, set medical clone to high sec station of interest. Step 2, undock in the ship you want moving and log out at a safe. Step 3, unsub for 6 months. Step 4, resub and enjoy your ship now docked in your clone station.
There are a LOT of super carriers docked in highsec due to this "feature". This is pretty much the cause for almost all cases where a capital ship ends up in high sec space. This is a very old mechanic, predating capital ships, that had some unintended consequences. This hole will be closed at some point in time. Up until then, please file a petition if your capital ship (or someone else's) ends up in high sec that way and a GM will correct the issue. Seems to me it would be a whole lot easier for you to move ALL unintended ships out of Hi-sec then waitiung for the players to do it for you. You do know that this opens up a loophole where say... popular player can keep their ships while the average player may not. This is a job for YOU not for the playerbase. Dude..shut up. Nobody agrees with you in your thread, or here. Let's...just assume there's some kind of signature here, 'k? ... ... OH WAIT. Jace Errata on Twitter |
Marcus Harikari
Room Is Empty Enemy-Fleet
28
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Posted - 2012.02.22 18:35:00 -
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The carrier in question just ganked me and cost me a loss of over 100billion. I would like to be reimbursed and have the pilot perma-IP-banned from EVE and hopefully sent to rot in an icelandic jail. TYVM for listening, CCP. |
Schmacos tryne
Norsk Testosteron
15
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Posted - 2012.02.22 18:55:00 -
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Jace Errata wrote:Dude..shut up. Nobody agrees with you in your thread, or here.
Dude GFYS. CCP admitted the majority shouldn't be there now they have to do something about it. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
1027
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Posted - 2012.02.22 19:02:00 -
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Schmacos tryne wrote:Jace Errata wrote:Dude..shut up. Nobody agrees with you in your thread, or here. Dude GFYS. CCP admitted the majority shouldn't be there now they have to do something about it.
Actually, no they didn't. Read that post again.
They explained how it happens, that eventually they will tweak that mechanic so that it doesn't continue to happen, and any cap ship owner inconvenienced by this can petetion to get it moved if they wish.
In no way does it infer that they feel the need to remove those ships, which is what you would like people to believe.
Try again. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
1027
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Posted - 2012.02.22 19:05:00 -
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Marcus Harikari wrote:The carrier in question just ganked me and cost me a loss of over 100billion. I would like to be reimbursed and have the pilot perma-IP-banned from EVE and hopefully sent to rot in an icelandic jail. TYVM for listening, CCP.
If that were true, you would have sent in a petition to CCP... been reimbursed... and his carrier would have been removed.
..... but that didn't really happen now, did it. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
Schmacos tryne
Norsk Testosteron
15
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Posted - 2012.02.22 19:21:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:Schmacos tryne wrote:Jace Errata wrote:Dude..shut up. Nobody agrees with you in your thread, or here. Dude GFYS. CCP admitted the majority shouldn't be there now they have to do something about it. Actually, no they didn't. Read that post again. They explained how it happens, that eventually they will tweak that mechanic so that it doesn't continue to happen, and any cap ship owner inconvenienced by this can petition to get it moved if they wish. In no way does it infer that they feel the need to remove those ships, which is what you would like people to believe. Try again.
This is pretty much the cause for almost all cases where a capital ship ends up in high sec space. This is a very old mechanic, predating capital ships, that had some unintended consequences. This hole will be closed at some point in time. Up until then, please file a petition if your capital ship (or someone else's) ends up in high sec that way and a GM will correct the issue.
Correct the issue means to rectify i.e. make right or fix if you like the issue.
This means that certain ships should not be there and will be removed if a GM is notified.
I however think this is bullshit and that the GM's should do this on a grand scale and show some guts for a change. "issue" gone. |
Doc Fury
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
396
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Posted - 2012.02.22 19:24:00 -
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Schmacos tryne wrote: I however think this is bullshit and that the GM's should do this on a grand scale and show some guts for a change. "issue" gone.
It's a good thing that CCP does not care what you think, just because you got a bad case of epeen envy.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'no.' |
Schmacos tryne
Norsk Testosteron
15
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Posted - 2012.02.22 19:35:00 -
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Doc Fury wrote:Schmacos tryne wrote: I however think this is bullshit and that the GM's should do this on a grand scale and show some guts for a change. "issue" gone.
It's a good thing that CCP does not care what you think, just because you got a bad case of epeen envy.
You woudn't happen to have one of those said ships would you? |
Jita Alt666
930
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Posted - 2012.02.22 19:38:00 -
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Chribba wrote:Wait, wait, wait, I'm the only one allowed to use Capitals in high security space. How dare some one else have the nerve to show their capitals in Empire. Petition it.
/c
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Doc Fury
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
398
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Posted - 2012.02.22 19:38:00 -
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Schmacos tryne wrote:Doc Fury wrote:Schmacos tryne wrote: I however think this is bullshit and that the GM's should do this on a grand scale and show some guts for a change. "issue" gone.
It's a good thing that CCP does not care what you think, just because you got a bad case of epeen envy. You woudn't happen to have one of those said ships would you?
Nope, but just like you, I'd love to have one.
The difference here is that I don't think that just because I can't have one, no one else should either.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'no.' |
Aldous Sancros
Carbon-16
3
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Posted - 2012.02.22 19:39:00 -
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Schmacos tryne wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:Schmacos tryne wrote:Jace Errata wrote:Dude..shut up. Nobody agrees with you in your thread, or here. Dude GFYS. CCP admitted the majority shouldn't be there now they have to do something about it. Actually, no they didn't. Read that post again. They explained how it happens, that eventually they will tweak that mechanic so that it doesn't continue to happen, and any cap ship owner inconvenienced by this can petition to get it moved if they wish. In no way does it infer that they feel the need to remove those ships, which is what you would like people to believe. Try again. This is pretty much the cause for almost all cases where a capital ship ends up in high sec space. This is a very old mechanic, predating capital ships, that had some unintended consequences. This hole will be closed at some point in time. Up until then, please file a petition if your capital ship (or someone else's) ends up in high sec that way and a GM will correct the issue. Correct the issue means to rectify i.e. make right or fix if you like the issue. This means that certain ships should not be there and will be removed if a GM is notified. I however think this is bullshit and that the GM's should do this on a grand scale and show some guts for a change. "issue" gone.
Failquote fails. As noted in your ridiculous other thread, this is a different matter. |
Marlona Sky
EntroPrelatial Vanguard EntroPraetorian Aegis
457
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Posted - 2012.02.22 19:55:00 -
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I want a Thanatos in high sec too.
So I can hold an event where players can kill me in it!
Still no way I plan on unsubbing for six months to get that trick to work though.
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Riley Moore
Sentinum Research
377
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Posted - 2012.02.22 20:13:00 -
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Just allow sub-supercaps in highsec :D Large volumes of highly researched Ammo, drones, charges and ship bpo's. Biggest BPO store in EVE! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=445524#post445524 |
Jenny Brownpants
Pilsener and Cameltoe Research Inc
0
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Posted - 2012.02.22 20:19:00 -
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Marlona Sky wrote:I want a Thanatos in high sec too. So I can hold an event where players can kill me in it! Still no way I plan on unsubbing for six months to get that trick to work though.
No need to unsub if it's still the same as 2009 Linky
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
1259
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Posted - 2012.02.22 20:55:00 -
[46] - Quote
If it takes a petition to move the ship out of highsec, then who is going to be the snitch who files it?
All this hurf and blurf over what? Oohh a 3D representation of a space ship construct that was really huge just flew by! OMG my game is ruined! Waaaah!
This reminds me of those housing "authorities" where people rat each other out because they put the wrong color curtains up or their dog is too big.
Some of you people deserve to be stuffed in a sack and beaten with little baseball bats just for caring.
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Krixtal Icefluxor
Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd
336
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Posted - 2012.02.22 20:58:00 -
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Sverige Pahis wrote:Chribba wrote:No jealousy here, since i have my fleet of capitals in high-sec already. And while yes it's nice for new people to see them, imo it's all about the history and the rarity of said items and their history of days past.
GMs reimbursing them left and right (yeah I know that's not really the case) makes them less "historic" imo and it they don't really have any history, just a GM not paying attention when reimbursing a ship.
True ships are imo far more historic since they are the from the old days. New pilots can get the whole history of it as well, how at a point in time things could be built there, and even put a RP on it saying like concord changed the restrictions etc.
/c There's absolutely no reason why you should have a monopoly on capitals in highsec. You come off as jealous.
WOW........just....WOW
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Ai Shun
300
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Posted - 2012.02.22 21:25:00 -
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Schmacos tryne wrote:Who gives crap about history, This is about the future not the past.
-- rant snip --
Oh yeah I forgot... Some players are more worth then others <--- CCP POKE
I care about the history of this game; it helps build a sense of continuity, growth and gives this community their roots. And you are right, some players are worth more than others.
For example, your reputation is pretty much ******. I don't see a list of the services you provide or the websites you host for this community. In fact, I see nothing from you except a bit of jealous, child-like whining.
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Schmacos tryne
Norsk Testosteron
15
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Posted - 2012.02.22 21:33:00 -
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Ai Shun wrote:Schmacos tryne wrote:Who gives crap about history, This is about the future not the past.
-- rant snip --
Oh yeah I forgot... Some players are more worth then others <--- CCP POKE I care about the history of this game; it helps build a sense of continuity, growth and gives this community their roots. And you are right, some players are worth more than others. For example, your reputation is pretty much ******. I don't see a list of the services you provide or the websites you host for this community. In fact, I see nothing from you except a bit of jealous, child-like whining.
Reputation??? Oh so this is a pop contets... I guess that's why you got themk perky pixels in your trenstestickle portrait then to harvest more fame from pimpleboys.
I was unavare of the fact that I had to provide a service to be allowed access to all the features in the game I pay for... I really had no idea.
If somone has so little to do that they spend their free time providing, that is their case. Do not let this... this self-sacrifice crap be a stature of how the ingame elements are distributed.
Then you are just seriously messed up. |
Doc Fury
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
400
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Posted - 2012.02.22 21:43:00 -
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Schmacos tryne wrote: I was unavare of the fact that I had to provide a service to be allowed access to all the features in the game I pay for...
You don't.
1. Locate legitimate high-sec cap owner.
2. Work out an amicable trade arrangement with player in #1
3. Wave around your new epeen (profit!)
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'no.' |
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Ai Shun
301
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Posted - 2012.02.22 23:20:00 -
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Schmacos tryne wrote:Reputation??? Oh so this is a pop contets... I guess that's why you got themk perky pixels in your trenstestickle portrait then to harvest more fame from pimpleboys.
I was unavare of the fact that I had to provide a service to be allowed access to all the features in the game I pay for... I really had no idea.
If somone has so little to do that they spend their free time providing, that is their case. Do not let this... this self-sacrifice crap be a stature of how the ingame elements are distributed.
Then you are just seriously messed up.
You asked if certain players are worth more than others. I just told you why some are worth more than others. That's just a reality of life. In my job, I am more valuable to the company than other employees who spend less time upskilling, researching and developing their professional skills. Simple fact.
You are less valuable than some of those Capital pilots because you contribute nothing beyond your $15. They bring in more advertising, reputation and community than you can ever hope to do. That makes them valuable and means that some, non-impacting game decisions can be allowed to swing in their favour.
It's called a sensible decision.
As to the carrier; it is a historical artefact that is allowed to remain there with a severe set of restrictions. It does not impact game-play.
Now stop being a petulant child. |
Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
228
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Posted - 2012.02.23 01:12:00 -
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Aiwha wrote:Andski wrote:stranger things have happened
i.e. a nulli secunda titan in Rens (cripes) Party don't start till our titans jump in.
Don't know how that could happen again, but it would be awesome, especially with the now not-lame jump-in effect.
(Outside Brutor Tribe Treasury in Rens)
Multiple "BANG!"
Everybody in local:
"What. The. F???"
Bring it, I say!
I are kyute kitten! I are in ur mishun! Redoosin' teh lag by ninja'ing ur wrekz! (CCP: Make wrecks probable, and after 30min., tractorable.) |
Paragon Renegade
Wyvern Operations
317
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Posted - 2012.02.23 02:04:00 -
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ITT: People insulting Chribba
Did it really happen? The pie is a tautology |
Doggy Dogwoofwoof
Doggy Missions
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Posted - 2012.02.23 03:04:00 -
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Schmacos tryne wrote:Jace Errata wrote:Dude..shut up. Nobody agrees with you in your thread, or here. Dude GFYS. CCP admitted the majority shouldn't be there now they have to do something about it. actually, CCP DID do it once. Chirbba got angry and CCP reverted it. YOU CAN NOT HARM THE VELDNOUGHT MWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA |
T'amber Anomandari Demaleon
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Posted - 2012.02.23 03:27:00 -
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Doggy Dogwoofwoof wrote:Schmacos tryne wrote:Jace Errata wrote:Dude..shut up. Nobody agrees with you in your thread, or here. Dude GFYS. CCP admitted the majority shouldn't be there now they have to do something about it. actually, CCP DID do it once. Chirbba got angry and CCP reverted it. YOU CAN NOT HARM THE VELDNOUGHT MWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Doggy Dogwoofwoof
Doggy Missions
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Posted - 2012.02.23 03:40:00 -
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SHH, the bots dont know that |
BIGTEX123
Screaming War Eagles Incorporated
3
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Posted - 2012.02.23 04:27:00 -
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When I first started playing I saw one of the dreads in Amarr space and it freaked me out, thought he was going to kill me and how he hacked the game into letting him have it in high-sec. If only I knew how to take screenshots than... |
Taedrin
Kushan Industrial
347
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Posted - 2012.02.23 04:35:00 -
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Sverige Pahis wrote:Chribba wrote:No jealousy here, since i have my fleet of capitals in high-sec already. And while yes it's nice for new people to see them, imo it's all about the history and the rarity of said items and their history of days past.
GMs reimbursing them left and right (yeah I know that's not really the case) makes them less "historic" imo and it they don't really have any history, just a GM not paying attention when reimbursing a ship.
True ships are imo far more historic since they are the from the old days. New pilots can get the whole history of it as well, how at a point in time things could be built there, and even put a RP on it saying like concord changed the restrictions etc.
/c There's absolutely no reason why you should have a monopoly on capitals in highsec. You come off as jealous.
He's hardly jealous, there were actually many people who had high sec capitals. Biased? Probably.
The thing is that the rules are the rules - plain and simple. Chribba (and many others) get to keep their capitals in high sec because they were historic (and they were built there when they were allowed). The decision to leave these capitals in high sec was a public, official policy.
Capitals which are "accidentally" moved to high sec are moved back to low sec for two main reasons: 1) CCP wants to avoid potential public relations disasters like the T20 incident. 2) CCP has already moved other high sec capitals back to low sec after a GM accidentally moved them to high sec. It is in CCP's best interests to apply the rules consistently.
Why does Chribba get to keep his capitals in high sec? Because everyone else got to keep their capitals in high sec. As Chribba mentioned, a GM DID in fact move his veldnaught to low sec. It was moved back because they did not do the same thing to all of the other high sec capitals which had been built there. |
Ai Shun
303
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Posted - 2012.02.23 04:40:00 -
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Taedrin wrote:The thing is that the rules are the rules - plain and simple. Chribba (and many others) get to keep their capitals in high sec because they were historic (and they were built there when they were allowed). The decision to leave these capitals in high sec was a public, official policy.
+1
The relevant information can be found here.
/waves hand. These are not the capitals you were looking for.
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Alphaphi
Lost Society Get Off My Lawn
8
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Posted - 2012.02.23 11:18:00 -
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i would actually consider doing the unsub trick so i could get my niddy to high-sec as a mining carrier could be fun, but unsubbing for 6 months? doubt i would be capable of doing that.
oh well OT: i don't really see anything wrong with them being in hi-sec, but they should not use them for the intentional purpose (combat, logistics) |
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GM Homonoia
Game Masters C C P Alliance
289
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Posted - 2012.02.23 13:54:00 -
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GM Homonoia wrote:Mashie Saldana wrote:You want a cap ship in highsec? All it takes is a bit of patience.
Step 1, set medical clone to high sec station of interest. Step 2, undock in the ship you want moving and log out at a safe. Step 3, unsub for 6 months. Step 4, resub and enjoy your ship now docked in your clone station.
There are a LOT of super carriers docked in highsec due to this "feature". This is pretty much the cause for almost all cases where a capital ship ends up in high sec space. This is a very old mechanic, predating capital ships, that had some unintended consequences. This hole will be closed at some point in time. Up until then, please file a petition if your capital ship (or someone else's) ends up in high sec that way and a GM will correct the issue.
This issue has now been fixed. If you are undocked and in a ship that is not supposed to go to high sec, you will not be moved anymore. Senior GM Homonoia | Info Group | Senior Game Master |
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Cebraio
Starfire Oasis
32
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Posted - 2012.02.23 14:00:00 -
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GM Homonoia wrote:GM Homonoia wrote:Mashie Saldana wrote:You want a cap ship in highsec? All it takes is a bit of patience.
Step 1, set medical clone to high sec station of interest. Step 2, undock in the ship you want moving and log out at a safe. Step 3, unsub for 6 months. Step 4, resub and enjoy your ship now docked in your clone station.
There are a LOT of super carriers docked in highsec due to this "feature". This is pretty much the cause for almost all cases where a capital ship ends up in high sec space. This is a very old mechanic, predating capital ships, that had some unintended consequences. This hole will be closed at some point in time. Up until then, please file a petition if your capital ship (or someone else's) ends up in high sec that way and a GM will correct the issue. This issue has now been fixed. If you are undocked and in a ship that is not supposed to go to high sec, you will not be moved anymore.
No, high-sec cap for me then.
But thanks for taking the decision of me, to unsub for 6 month. Nice and fast work Homonoia. |
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GM Homonoia
Game Masters C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2012.02.23 14:07:00 -
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Cebraio wrote:GM Homonoia wrote:GM Homonoia wrote:Mashie Saldana wrote:You want a cap ship in highsec? All it takes is a bit of patience.
Step 1, set medical clone to high sec station of interest. Step 2, undock in the ship you want moving and log out at a safe. Step 3, unsub for 6 months. Step 4, resub and enjoy your ship now docked in your clone station.
There are a LOT of super carriers docked in highsec due to this "feature". This is pretty much the cause for almost all cases where a capital ship ends up in high sec space. This is a very old mechanic, predating capital ships, that had some unintended consequences. This hole will be closed at some point in time. Up until then, please file a petition if your capital ship (or someone else's) ends up in high sec that way and a GM will correct the issue. This issue has now been fixed. If you are undocked and in a ship that is not supposed to go to high sec, you will not be moved anymore. No, high-sec cap for me then. But thanks for taking the decision of me, to unsub for 6 month. Nice and fast work Homonoia.
I cannot take the credit here; this was already being worked on long before this thread. But it is always nice when things work out. Senior GM Homonoia | Info Group | Senior Game Master |
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Mashie Saldana
Veto. Veto Corp
412
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Posted - 2012.02.23 14:34:00 -
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Nice, next step should be to do a database query for all supercaps currently docked and deal with them accordingly. Dominique Vasilkovsky Mashie Saldana Monica Foulkes |
Lord Ryan
True Xero
513
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Posted - 2012.02.23 16:06:00 -
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I thought you could only launch fighter in 0.2 and below.
-á"Nerf it cause I can't fly it". I want to fly a badass Mon Calamari stlye-ácruiser painted to match my Tron clothes. |
Astray Anzomi
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.02.23 17:34:00 -
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You know, as a new player not quite ready to head into the wilds, I would not the opportunity to see some of these larger ships. I am still quite awed at the size differences in the game already.
But I guess I have to wait till I get lots of skillpoints to be able to see them.
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Jita Alt666
932
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Posted - 2012.02.23 18:47:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:If it takes a petition to move the ship out of highsec, then who is going to be the snitch who files it?
All this hurf and blurf over what? Oohh a 3D representation of a space ship construct that was really huge just flew by! OMG my game is ruined! Waaaah!
This reminds me of those housing "authorities" where people rat each other out because they put the wrong color curtains up or their dog is too big.
Some of you people deserve to be stuffed in a sack and beaten with little baseball bats just for caring.
The meta gaming potential is there...
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Jhan Niber
EdgeGamers Dark Taboo
6
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Posted - 2012.02.23 19:00:00 -
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What a bunch of whining over nothing. |
Ai Shun
311
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Posted - 2012.02.23 21:49:00 -
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Alphaphi wrote:i don't really see anything wrong with them being in hi-sec, but they should not use them for the intentional purpose (combat, logistics)
The ones that are there may not be used for anything beyond showing off and mining. Any other use and you get shifted to low-sec and a nice friendly two week (?) ban to boot. |
Marlona Sky
EntroPrelatial Vanguard EntroPraetorian Aegis
462
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Posted - 2012.02.23 22:07:00 -
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Mashie Saldana wrote:Nice, next step should be to do a database query for all supercaps currently in game and deal with them accordingly.
FYP and...
Right click, delete.
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SkiD-MaRk
DEAD-ON
15
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Posted - 2012.02.24 00:27:00 -
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Schmacos tryne wrote:Ai Shun wrote:Schmacos tryne wrote:Who gives crap about history, This is about the future not the past.
-- rant snip --
Oh yeah I forgot... Some players are more worth then others <--- CCP POKE I care about the history of this game; it helps build a sense of continuity, growth and gives this community their roots. And you are right, some players are worth more than others. For example, your reputation is pretty much ******. I don't see a list of the services you provide or the websites you host for this community. In fact, I see nothing from you except a bit of jealous, child-like whining. Reputation??? Oh so this is a pop contets... I guess that's why you got themk perky pixels in your trenstestickle portrait then to harvest more fame from pimpleboys. I was unavare of the fact that I had to provide a service to be allowed access to all the features in the game I pay for... I really had no idea. If somone has so little to do that they spend their free time providing, that is their case. Do not let this... this self-sacrifice crap be a stature of how the ingame elements are distributed. Then you are just seriously messed up.
^ U be Butt Hurting
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