
SoftRevolution
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Posted - 2008.01.02 16:40:00 -
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Edited by: SoftRevolution on 02/01/2008 16:42:59
Originally by: Idhan
Originally by: SoftRevolution Edited by: SoftRevolution on 02/01/2008 15:33:52 That's a stupid comparison really.
You're assuming that the motivations and outcomes for ingame griefing are the same as for out of game crime.
actually i was putting forward the possible suggestion that a desire to grief ingame may be linked to a desire to grief in real life.
If I grief someone in a computer game what I am doing is adversely effecting their leisure time. There's no real damage being done. Worst case scenario for them they'll log in a huff and go do something else. What I get out of it is the satisfaction of winding someone up. I haven't done any real harm to them. If they consider that I have they have real problems with perspective.
You get the satisfaction of winding some one up, why?
Unless you're limiting your enquiry to crime of a similar nature it's not a good question to ask.
Can you think of any crimes of a similar nature?
not crimes, but i can think of similar actions, petty bullying in a work enviroment for example.
Your comparison only works if you see someone's internet spaceshps as being the same as their real property which is obviously a tad idiotic.
Considering people pay to play the game, and spend loads of time doing so, (and as any eve citizen will tell me time is money)you could consider their ships as their property, its not that idiotic, see? unlike yourself i managed to answer you without calling you names, or implying youre an idiot :)
Quote: cant help but wondering if those who steal and delight in ill gotten gain would love to do so in real life, if only they were'nt scared of the law, or judgment of their peers.
You mention crime quite specifically in your first post and as I said you appear to be assuming similar motivations for griefing ingame and crime out of crime.
There's any number of possible explanations for antisocial behaviour in real life ranging from low grade brain damage, too much testosterone, genetic tendancies to poor upbringing to class struggle to "some people are just evil". As far as I can tell from my admitedly very limited reading around the subject there's no real concensus or generalised account of movitvation for all unpleasant behaviour.
Workplace bullying has real outcomes. People are stuck working with you. Workplace bullying also leads to lawsuits and unpleasantness of that nature if left unchecked. It also increases absenteeism and employee turnover. So that's tangible financial harm. Physical harm too if you buy into the idea that it causes stress.
I get satisfaction from winding people up because I am human.
It's a computer game. If you don't enjoy time you spend playing it, you probably shouldn't be playing it. People spend time mining or missioning for their internet spaceships for fun, voluntarily, in an environment where no bones are made about the potential for that work to be wiped out under particular circumstances. You may as well run around on a Counter-Strike server asking why you can't all get along and why everybodies got to be shooting at you 
I don't think you're an idiot. It's an interesting question. I just think you've framed it in a very sloppy manner and made some rather large generalisations and assumptions. EVE RELATED CONTENT |