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Stalac
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Posted - 2008.01.02 14:05:00 -
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As a new member to eve i have noticed these two words being used quite often, it seems to me that since an online rpg like eve allows people to act out their fantasies not only without consequence but also in relative anonymity, that people may well choose to play the style that they most desire to, without fear of being judged. Some eve players build, create and prospect, while others take delight in harassing and living off said players backs, i cant help but wondering if those who steal and delight in ill gotten gain would love to do so in real life, if only they were'nt scared of the law, or judgment of their peers. if anyone has a psychological background i would be deeply interested if there is any truth to this nagging idea i have, or whether there is no substance to it whatsoever. This is a tongue in cheek question btw, just a bit of fun :)
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Spaceman Jack
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Posted - 2008.01.02 14:08:00 -
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Of course... half of these people would sh*t a brick of they tried to gank someone in RL.
But that is the beauty of games.
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Riho
Northen Breeze
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Posted - 2008.01.02 14:09:00 -
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i can be a real ass ingame... i mean.. shoot anything that moves.. gank haulers in hi sec etc etc.
in rl... i dont even think about that stuff.. im quite "normal" in real life.
doesnt mean that if i do this stuff ingame means im a mass murderer/bank robber in rl
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Seems that there's a new game that seems to be very popular whit whiners these days. Its called EFT Online.
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Gaven Blands
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Posted - 2008.01.02 14:09:00 -
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I find that the people who behave like knobs are knobs.
And the last person who said he wanted to get me in RL, I gave him my address.
I'm still waiting.
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Meloric
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Posted - 2008.01.02 14:14:00 -
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Well part of it could be attributed to their deepseated angst about their mother but probably most of it is related to the fact that this is a Role Playing Game.
So, I would expect Pirates to be heartless basturds that try to kill me and take my loot at any and every chance possible.
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Miss Ore
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Posted - 2008.01.02 14:14:00 -
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 Originally by: Gaven Blands
And the last person who said he wanted to get me in RL, I gave him my address.
I'm still waiting.
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Everyone Dies
Caldari
Lucky Tampon
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Posted - 2008.01.02 14:15:00 -
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I gank people in game and I gank people in RL.
I fire them from their jobs. I don't care if they are pregnant, have children or dying of cancer if they aren't doing their job correctly they get the boot.
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Drake Dracoli
Incarnation of Evil
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Posted - 2008.01.02 14:20:00 -
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One of my corp members, who is a space pirate, is applying to go to the Police Academy.
Be afraid, be very afraid. 
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techzer0
IDLE GUNS
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Posted - 2008.01.02 14:24:00 -
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I work for the government... that's kinda like being a griefer, right?
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Jaketh Ivanes
Amarr
Do Or Die And Live Or Try
The Kano Organisation
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Posted - 2008.01.02 14:37:00 -
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It is easy to blame the griefers, that they can (and are allowed to) leech on your hard work. But the only true reason they can do that, is because you allow them to.
CCP may have given griefers a tool to do their thing, but they have also give you the same tools to grief the griefers.
I my self couldn't hurt a fly in or out of game, unless it was for a cause. Taking for the sake of taking, is not fun in my book.
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Lorz0r
You're Doing It Wrong
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Posted - 2008.01.02 14:41:00 -
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well being in the armed forces i've thought if i could shoot someone and the answer is yeah i could.
but not for phat lootz though ;(
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000Hunter000
Gallente
Magners Marauders
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Posted - 2008.01.02 14:44:00 -
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The actions of some people have me fear for them... i can't help but wonder and think that if u act like a jerk in EVE how likely it is this person is a jerk in RL as well... or atleast mentally a bit unstable.
Sadly we are not as evolved as we would like to be 
CCP, let us pay the online shop with Direct Debit!!!
Magners is now recruiting, evemail me or Dagazbo ingame.
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Dromidas Shadowmoon
Minmatar
Storm Legion
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Posted - 2008.01.02 14:46:00 -
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Most people wouldn't even consider doing the things they do in games in real life, but I believe its only because of society. Were it as relatively lawless in real life as it is in eve, then you would see the exact same things happen in real life.
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PhantomVyper
Darkness Inc.
Blood Blind
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Posted - 2008.01.02 14:49:00 -
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Originally by: Stalac
As a new member to eve i have noticed these two words being used quite often, it seems to me that since an online rpg like eve allows people to act out their fantasies not only without consequence but also in relative anonymity, that people may well choose to play the style that they most desire to, without fear of being judged. Some eve players build, create and prospect, while others take delight in harassing and living off said players backs, i cant help but wondering if those who steal and delight in ill gotten gain would love to do so in real life, if only they were'nt scared of the law, or judgment of their peers. if anyone has a psychological background i would be deeply interested if there is any truth to this nagging idea i have, or whether there is no substance to it whatsoever. This is a tongue in cheek question btw, just a bit of fun :)
Yes, you're quite right and I completly agree with you![/sarcasm]
Either that or the ppl that roleplay bad guys in the game are just as normal as everyone else and just have a higher IQ than the average whinie carebear that allows them to distinguish between what is a GAME and what is RL...
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Taua Roqa
Minmatar
Eve University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2008.01.02 14:54:00 -
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I am much better behaved in EvE than real life, afterall it takes a lot more than a database manager to ban you from RL!
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Stalac
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Posted - 2008.01.02 14:55:00 -
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I am essentially thinking of subconcious desire, i am aware most people wouldnt act on it. Nice to see i touched a sore spot with you though :)
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Idhan
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Posted - 2008.01.02 14:56:00 -
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last post meant for phantom viper
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Taua Roqa
Minmatar
Eve University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2008.01.02 15:02:00 -
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Originally by: Dromidas Shadowmoon
Most people wouldn't even consider doing the things they do in games in real life, but I believe its only because of society. Were it as relatively lawless in real life as it is in eve, then you would see the exact same things happen in real life.
I've actually blown a car up and it's fun as hell - destruction is FUN - people in RL are carebears, accumulating craploads of stuff to make them happier when they can't see how futile it is, how they are being used, then they cry when someone comes along and makes off with their bang and olufsen hifi, seriously lol. Eve is a lot like RL, mostly full of carebears with a small minority saying 'damn, i ain't doing that crap!'
It's just the food chain innit, like how people farm cows and sheep, people farm other people for money.
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Drake Dracoli
Incarnation of Evil
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Posted - 2008.01.02 15:06:00 -
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At least for me, MMOs are way to reach a sort of personal fantasy of what I can't be in real life. EVE Online allows me to be whatever I want to be, a dashing space pirate, a dangerous entrepreneur, or a rouge mercenary. I'm a pretty generous, and good-natured guy in real life, and I even some times feel guilty when I pop and pod some people.
But hey, I'm making the game interesting. Without people like me, there would be no conflict in the EVE Online. And that's what makes EVE an interesting game to play - conflict.
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Raise thy weapons on this day
Ye shall not die alone
Fight and die; let valkyries fly
For they shall take thee home! |
Stakhanov
Metafarmers
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Posted - 2008.01.02 15:07:00 -
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I think it would be easier to profile people from their earliest years , when they're kids playing cops & robbers. While those playing cops will probably become productive members of the society , those inclined to play robbers should be closely watched , and turned to a therapist before they grow too strong a criminal mindset. If nothing is done , this seemingly innocent "playing" will in time turn them into hardened criminals.
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umop 3pisdn
Minmatar
Fnck the blob.
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Posted - 2008.01.02 15:07:00 -
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I dont think so, i'm pretty nice in RL but i kill a lot of carebears ingame...
When i first started pvping i felt very guilty when i won, unless they attacked me first, even if it was a close fight, however you just get used to it or numb... whichever
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PhantomVyper
Darkness Inc.
Blood Blind
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Posted - 2008.01.02 15:10:00 -
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Originally by: Stalac
I am essentially thinking of subconcious desire, i am aware most people wouldnt act on it. Nice to see i touched a sore spot with you though :)
Ok, since this was for me I'll reply.
You didn't touch a sore spot, I realize you are new to the game, but we get at least 1 thread like this every weak, thats why my reply was so harsh.
Now as to your alegation of subconscious desires: I would like to eject some RL ppl into space and / or watch them beeing burned alive namelly child molesters, rapists and other charming folks like that. In rl, I'm just a normal guy, I even commit random acts of kindness to strangers and small animals.
The reason I choose to be a pirate / low-life scum in EVE is because that gamestyle allows me the biggest amount of freedom whille doing what I like (PVP), without beeing tied to the politics of EVE. I will kill and pod (or ransom), anyone that gets in my way if I can, but I will also offer advice on how to avoid it next time and have even reimbursed some ppl that actually didn't knew what they where doing when they jumped into my particular low-sec system.
I suspect that most EVE pirates are like me, certainly all that I've found so far have been, they are also alot more laid back and suportive to their corpmates than almost any member of a so called good-guy corp.
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Z3r0n
THE LEGION OF STEEL WARRIORS....
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.01.02 15:11:00 -
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I also don't think there is muc correlation between in-game and real life violence. I for one love to shoot things in EVE and in real life i prefer a sword.. you see? No problem what so ever.
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Andrest Disch
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.01.02 15:18:00 -
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Edited by: Andrest Disch on 02/01/2008 15:17:49
Living off the backs of those people?
Without conflict and pirates, theere wouldn't be much of an economy. There wouldn't need to be loads of industrialists, of market players, of mission runners..
War is the game. War makes the game playable.
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Stalac
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Posted - 2008.01.02 15:19:00 -
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Originally by: PhantomVyper
Originally by: Stalac
I am essentially thinking of subconcious desire, i am aware most people wouldnt act on it. Nice to see i touched a sore spot with you though :)
Ok, since this was for me I'll reply.
You didn't touch a sore spot, I realize you are new to the game, but we get at least 1 thread like this every weak, thats why my reply was so harsh.
Now as to your alegation of subconscious desires: I would like to eject some RL ppl into space and / or watch them beeing burned alive namelly child molesters, rapists and other charming folks like that. In rl, I'm just a normal guy, I even commit random acts of kindness to strangers and small animals.
The reason I choose to be a pirate / low-life scum in EVE is because that gamestyle allows me the biggest amount of freedom whille doing what I like (PVP), without beeing tied to the politics of EVE. I will kill and pod (or ransom), anyone that gets in my way if I can, but I will also offer advice on how to avoid it next time and have even reimbursed some ppl that actually didn't knew what they where doing when they jumped into my particular low-sec system.
I suspect that most EVE pirates are like me, certainly all that I've found so far have been, they are also alot more laid back and suportive to their corpmates than almost any member of a so called good-guy corp.
Your second post was a lot fairer than your first, so i apologise for my rash comment.
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SoftRevolution
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Posted - 2008.01.02 15:32:00 -
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Edited by: SoftRevolution on 02/01/2008 15:33:52
That's a stupid comparison really.
You're assuming that the motivations and outcomes for ingame griefing are the same as for out of game crime.
If I grief someone in a computer game what I am doing is adversely effecting their leisure time. There's no real damage being done. Worst case scenario for them they'll log in a huff and go do something else. What I get out of it is the satisfaction of winding someone up. I haven't done any real harm to them. If they consider that I have they have real problems with perspective.
Unless you're limiting your enquiry to crime of a similar nature it's not a good question to ask.
Can you think of any crimes of a similar nature?
Your comparison only works if you see someone's internet spaceshps as being the same as their real property which is obviously a tad idiotic.
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Patsy kavanagh
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Posted - 2008.01.02 15:33:00 -
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Personally when i'm being bad in eve, its not that i'm playing out real life fantasys, its more that i'm doing things i'd never really do irl, thats why its escapism  |
Reacz
Caldari
Empirius Enigmus Navy
Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.01.02 15:35:00 -
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Most people use games to vent their anger, suffering and general dislike for their boss/friends/work collegues, whatever. I'd much rather people shot me on a computer game than in real life.
And before you ask me if I'm nutty because I like to shoot people in a space game with internet spaceships, I'll tell you that I'm prone to my bouts of violence and hatred just like any man, if that makes me slightly mental, so be it.
We're only human after all. ;)
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VicturusTeSaluto
Metafarmers
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Posted - 2008.01.02 15:42:00 -
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Originally by: Stalac
As a new member to eve i have noticed these two words being used quite often, it seems to me that since an online rpg like eve allows people to act out their fantasies not only without consequence but also in relative anonymity, that people may well choose to play the style that they most desire to, without fear of being judged. Some eve players build, create and prospect, while others take delight in harassing and living off said players backs, i cant help but wondering if those who steal and delight in ill gotten gain would love to do so in real life, if only they were'nt scared of the law, or judgment of their peers. if anyone has a psychological background i would be deeply interested if there is any truth to this nagging idea i have, or whether there is no substance to it whatsoever. This is a tongue in cheek question btw, just a bit of fun :)
No offense, but you are not the sharpest tool in the shed if you think this is anything but a game.
For instance, my old corporation- mainly pirates in EVE- but all EMT's and Paramedics in real life. Clearly a bunch of rotten, evil, demented bastards. 
It's a game, and the sole point of gaming has always been to KILL, KILL, KILL. If you do not like it, then play single player games.
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UGWidowmaker
Caldari
Setenta Corp
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Posted - 2008.01.02 15:47:00 -
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well if you look at it from a psycologist view i wouldent say it the way u do.. more like...
those who agress might be to nice in rl and need some atitude out in the game as they dont have the balls to do so in rl.. this goes for some not all ofc.. and then theres the cute carebear players.. well they might be real asses in rl and seek a place to relax before there temper goes nut.. this ofc dosent go for all aswell.. but in mmopg games people have a tendencie to play the oposit of there own self..
u can however never generalise. theres all aspect and its a study in rl worthy..
theres a lot of studies on this subject just google it..
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I am the widowmaker stay tuned.
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