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Mitchell Schwitzer
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Posted - 2008.01.03 14:48:00 -
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Originally by: lofty29
Originally by: LaVista Vista For all its worth, i like to think my name is enough.
Who are you...? 
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Zaphod Jones
Minmatar Infinitus Odium The Church.
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Posted - 2008.01.03 15:10:00 -
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Originally by: Mitchell Schwitzer
Originally by: lofty29
Originally by: LaVista Vista For all its worth, i like to think my name is enough.
Who are you...? 
I know of both Lofty and LaVista and trust them both
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Kazuo Ishiguro
House of Marbles Zzz
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Posted - 2008.01.03 15:50:00 -
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Edited by: Kazuo Ishiguro on 03/01/2008 15:53:48 Here's a way of doing this in a fair, secure, independently verifiable and automated manner:
1. Choose a major public lottery. 2. Assign a positive integer to every possible draw from that lottery, starting from 1 and working upwards. 3. Compile a list of how many tickets have been bought, the purchasers, and the running total of tickets sold. 4. Find the number corresponding to the winning draw in the list of purchases and see who bought the range of tickets containing that number. That person is the winner.
Step 2 is the hard part - one approach (again using the UK national lottery as an example) is to convert each draw to a 49-digit binary number where the nth digit indicates whether or not ball n was drawn, then sort these numbers in ascending order. The good news is that you only have to do this once, and then the list can be used indefinitely.
This is quite similar to how the BIG lottery works, except that it sacrifices scalability in favour of increased security. Using the UK national lottery, however, still allows for almost 14m tickets to be sold for each draw, which should be enough for most purposes. You can scale the price of the tickets so that enough sell to make it probable that someone will have bought the winning ticket.
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Pitt Bull
Caldari Naval Reserve
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Posted - 2008.01.03 15:52:00 -
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Lotteries are the oldest, most widely-accepted scams of all time.
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LaVista Vista
Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz
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Posted - 2008.01.03 20:14:00 -
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Originally by: Pitt Bull Lotteries are the oldest, most widely-accepted scams of all time.
How is it any different from everything else?
When you buy a battleship in Jita, you are giving a person between 2 and 18(Yeah, you can make that kind of isk on a BS) million isk.
In this case, a lottery you just have several people buy that very same item, but only 1 person gets it.
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MisterBubbles
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Posted - 2008.01.03 20:25:00 -
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Originally by: LaVista Vista
It generates 15 numbers, and takes the average of them. Thats what i plan for using.
Well first off: As a lottery number generator that is simply broken.
Second: Who the frak are you?
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Kazuo Ishiguro
House of Marbles Zzz
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Posted - 2008.01.03 20:56:00 -
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LV still hasn't confirmed whether or not he's going to keep a set fee for himself afaik. If he runs a lottery for other reasons (for instance, encouraging more people to get EBANK accounts) and perhaps even gives away a minimum set amount each time, then people will at least show no long-term expected loss even if it usually takes them ages to break even. My research services Spreadsheets: Top speed calculation - Halo Implant stats |

LaVista Vista
Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz
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Posted - 2008.01.03 20:57:00 -
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Originally by: MisterBubbles
Originally by: LaVista Vista
It generates 15 numbers, and takes the average of them. Thats what i plan for using.
Well first off: As a lottery number generator that is simply broken.
Second: Who the frak are you?
First: it was a random crap idea i had. But when running it, i realised the results were too predictable. Thus i wanna use the lottery numbers.
Second: Post with your main, and i will tell you
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MisterBubbles
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Posted - 2008.01.03 21:12:00 -
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Originally by: LaVista Vista
Second: Post with your main, and i will tell you
Done. I've never understood this. What's the deal with throwing this phrase at responses that are negative?
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Boomershoot
Caldari Insurgent New Eden Tribe Deus Ex.
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Posted - 2008.01.03 21:24:00 -
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http://www.truepunk.com/hobowars/lotto.asp
it was (and is still) used for lottos in hobowars browser game
lol
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LaVista Vista
Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz
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Posted - 2008.01.03 21:37:00 -
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Originally by: Kazuo Ishiguro LV still hasn't confirmed whether or not he's going to keep a set fee for himself afaik. If he runs a lottery for other reasons (for instance, encouraging more people to get EBANK accounts) and perhaps even gives away a minimum set amount each time, then people will at least show no long-term expected loss even if it usually takes them ages to break even.
The idea for the lottery wasnt for me to make isk. Its merely for a secure way of running, indexing and handling lotteries.
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LaVista Vista
Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz
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Posted - 2008.01.03 21:39:00 -
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Originally by: MisterBubbles
Originally by: LaVista Vista
Second: Post with your main, and i will tell you
Done. I've never understood this. What's the deal with throwing this phrase at responses that are negative?
I just find it extremely fun how a 4month old character in a NPC corp asks the same question, which have been asked several times, and have been answered, when its got a very negative sound to it.
At least, do your homework. Eve-search is a start.
Also, if you havent heard of me, does it matter enough for you to ask the same answer as everybody else. Alot of people know and trust me. Im not trying to make you trust me.
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MisterBubbles
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Posted - 2008.01.03 21:50:00 -
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Originally by: LaVista Vista
I just find it extremely fun how a 4month old character in a NPC corp asks the same question, which have been asked several times, and have been answered, when its got a very negative sound to it.
I wasn't asking a question. I don't care who you are. I was pointing out that if you have to say, "I thought my name would be enough." then it's quite obviously not.
You still didn't answer my question about main.
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Czarny Iwan
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Posted - 2008.01.03 22:32:00 -
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Originally by: Zaphod Jones
Originally by: Mitchell Schwitzer
Originally by: lofty29
Originally by: LaVista Vista For all its worth, i like to think my name is enough.
Who are you...? 
I know of both Lofty and LaVista and trust them both
Who are you...? 
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