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Hubris
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.01.02 22:52:00 -
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Our BoB spy just got this crude recording of Blacklight's now famous "We planned it all" speech.
Its somewhat disturbing as to why he would use such a horrible fake accent that seems to swing from middle eastern to chinese in one sentence. Oh well at least we have it for the historical records.
video link "We planned it all"
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Quote: Originally Posted by Blacklight In terms of likely outcomes and consequences for BoB the first thing you have to remember is that we've been setting this war and it's climax up for over two years now. Why on earth do you think we've been acting all arrogant, rubbing people's noses in it, kicking sand in everyone's faces and generally ****ing everyone off for so long?
People seem to forget that we wanted this war, we wanted these odds, we wanted the challenge, we wanted this much pressure and we wanted to risk everything. Why? So we could engineer the most epic conflict Eve has ever seen, create the best player driven content in any MMO ever and ensure both you (yes all of you, even Mittani Razz) and we have the most fun ever. The likes of Molle, Galavet, Thol, Coranor and myself have been dreaming of this and working towards it for years.
I can tell you for sure that forcing us out of Delve won't kill us, as a group of corporations and people we work too well together, have too much history together, have too much fun together and enjoy each other's company too much to just go our seperate ways.
Even if we have a few months off doing our own thing as a break if/when we get forced out of Delve, you'll see BoB back in action again somewhere. We've been gaming together for close on four years now, losing this war (and remember we've been working towards this climax for two years now) and losing the rest of our territory will just push us into a new phase, new style, new goals, new challenges and more fun.
I for one will most certainly hold my head up high, stick a finger up at everyone and laugh when I say "we went down fighting in Delve and look how many of you ******* it took to do it... I hope you all had as much fun as we did" Razz
If you think having someone like 0utbreak landing on your doorstep is painful, look forward to having a territory-less BNC, RKK, Evol, DICE and Finfleet landing on your doorstep, it'll be like having a high speed gravel enema in space.
In terms of what happens after this war politically, I hope we see a rash of much smaller territorial wars, much shorter positive standings lists all round and see the demise of massive multi-alliance power blocks (at least for a while).
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steveid
SkyMarshal Logistics iMune Empire
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Posted - 2008.01.02 22:57:00 -
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first
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Louis Lane
Minmatar Imperium Holding corp
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Posted - 2008.01.02 22:57:00 -
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rofl now he and bob are going to act like they planned for 2 years to lose it all. the arrogance is stifling.
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Golden Helmet
Caldari Dangerously Insane
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Posted - 2008.01.02 22:58:00 -
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They didn't want those regions anyway.
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Gneeznow
Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.01.02 22:58:00 -
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Stop posting forever.
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fewl
Caldari Frontier Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.02 23:01:00 -
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i actually believe it was planned.
i dont believe the arrogance was planned, just some bob are just plain arrogant.
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Kaleeb
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.01.02 23:02:00 -
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Originally by: Hubris Our BoB spy just got this crude recording of Blacklight's now famous "We planned it all" speech.
Its somewhat disturbing as to why he would use such a horrible fake accent that seems to swing from middle eastern to chinese in one sentence.
Hmm this is not really surprising, Blacklight is rarely sober i'm told
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blkmajik
ZiTek Deepspace Explorations Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.01.02 23:05:00 -
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Edited by: blkmajik on 02/01/2008 23:06:53 i thought he quit eve already?
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Kriz Lupin
Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.01.02 23:09:00 -
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We all know Gneeze planned this from the start. Stop pretending BoB had anything to do with it Hubris.
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DoctorGonzo
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.02 23:15:00 -
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The video in the op is rubbish, I much prefer the one where he loses his Raven passed out at the keyboard. It's much funnier and more relevant if you know that man. Was it Mafia way back in 2004/05?
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Scavok
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.02 23:16:00 -
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It's like reading lotka.org. The funny thing is that half of BoB is former LV, who folded faster than ASCN, D2, V, and hell, even RISE. So yeah maybe BoB won't die, but the bandwagon will go ride bikes.
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Backdoor Bandit
Minmatar Gay Rights League
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Posted - 2008.01.02 23:23:00 -
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Outbreak landed on my doorstep once, but they were all pretty drunk and only whisk got punched.
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Fry Fortune
Ultrapolite Socialites GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.02 23:23:00 -
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We don't want bob dead, we just want their stations.
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Crimsonjade
Infected Below Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.02 23:29:00 -
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i would suggest you a life soon. putting that much time into utter crap is what we expect from goons.
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Scatim Helicon
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.02 23:29:00 -
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Originally by: Fry Fortune We don't want bob dead, we just want their stations.
what no get out we want them dead
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MAXSuicide
Cosmic Fusion When Fat Kids Attack
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Posted - 2008.01.02 23:32:00 -
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i hope his prediction of an end to multi alliance powerblocs turns out to be true tbfh.
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Pat McCrotch
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Posted - 2008.01.02 23:33:00 -
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Originally by: Scavok Edited by: Scavok on 02/01/2008 23:17:46 It's like reading lotka.org. The funny thing is that half of BoB is former LV, who folded and split faster than ASCN, D2, V, and hell, even RISE. So yeah maybe BoB won't die, but the bandwagon will go ride bikes.
You are right, BoB did take a lot of LV, but they took the part that wanted to continue the fight.
Basically you can say that BoB has amassed all the players that wanted the fight to rage on and it was the turncoats...errr carebears that killed the alliances that you mention. |
Fry Fortune
Ultrapolite Socialites GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.02 23:33:00 -
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Originally by: Scatim Helicon
Originally by: Fry Fortune We don't want bob dead, we just want their stations.
what no get out we want them dead
Dude they will just **** off to their 5man "band of brothers" alliance like "The Five" and all their other failed incarnations
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Halkin
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.01.02 23:38:00 -
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Originally by: Fry Fortune
Originally by: Scatim Helicon
Originally by: Fry Fortune We don't want bob dead, we just want their stations.
what no get out we want them dead
Dude they will just **** off to their 5man "band of brothers" alliance like "The Five" and all their other failed incarnations
bpe:\o/:
Originally by: InigoMontoya - re: iMune alliance situation I would sue Concord for breach of contract, you paid the fees, where is your pew pew?
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Meihui
Gallente MH Munitions Industries
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Posted - 2008.01.02 23:42:00 -
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I too will aim to fail! Check back in late 2008 for victory report + video. o7
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Avernus
Gallente Imperium Technologies
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Posted - 2008.01.02 23:44:00 -
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Quote: and see the demise of massive multi-alliance power blocks
^ Gets my vote.
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DaiTengu
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.02 23:53:00 -
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Edited by: DaiTengu on 02/01/2008 23:53:06 With this announcement they're well on their way to controlling all of 0.0 space!
That's their ultimate goal, right? Or did I mis-read that article in the NYTimes?
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ElCoCo
KIA Corp KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.02 23:59:00 -
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Originally by: Meihui I too will aim to fail! Check back in late 2008 for victory report + video. o7
I realy shouldn't post here, but that was too funny. |
PraetorNZ
The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.01.03 00:05:00 -
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\o/ bob is winning. they wanted all of this lol
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Hrin
Minmatar Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 00:06:00 -
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Why does every failing alliance say the same things? At least BoB is original with them claiming they engineered this. Too bad they were supposed to win.
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SunglassesInSpace
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 00:07:00 -
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Dance, puppets! DANCE!
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MAXSuicide
Cosmic Fusion When Fat Kids Attack
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Posted - 2008.01.03 00:10:00 -
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Originally by: DaiTengu Edited by: DaiTengu on 02/01/2008 23:53:06 With this announcement they're well on their way to controlling all of 0.0 space!
That's their ultimate goal, right? Or did I mis-read that article in the NYTimes?
media always blow things out of proportion dai..
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DaiTengu
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 00:13:00 -
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Originally by: MAXSuicide
Originally by: DaiTengu Edited by: DaiTengu on 02/01/2008 23:53:06 With this announcement they're well on their way to controlling all of 0.0 space!
That's their ultimate goal, right? Or did I mis-read that article in the NYTimes?
media always blow things out of proportion dai..
They must have twisted Molle's quote from "It is our ultimate goal to be free of owning 0.0 space".
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George Petsch
Caldari Thundercats RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.03 00:14:00 -
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So where is the MC role change appreciation speech then?
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DaiTengu
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 00:17:00 -
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Originally by: George Petsch So where is the MC role change appreciation speech then?
I guess "traitors and backstabbers" no longer means what I thought it meant. Instead it means "puppets who are doing exactly what we want them to do".
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Hubris
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.01.03 00:19:00 -
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Edited by: Hubris on 03/01/2008 00:19:46
Originally by: George Petsch So where is the MC role change appreciation speech then?
The spies were only able to get rumors and tiny bits of old episodes of "Murder She Wrote" before MC made their own announcement. Damn lazy spies. not enough time. -
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Stinkywrix
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 00:20:00 -
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Edited by: Stinkywrix on 03/01/2008 00:21:13 So how did the T20 scandal factor into bobs plan to lose?
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George Petsch
Caldari Thundercats RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.03 00:21:00 -
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Originally by: Stinkywrix So how did the T20 revelations factor into bobs plan to lose?
In terms of losing credibility it worked quite well tbh...
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k1Lz
FinFleet Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 00:22:00 -
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EPIC :)
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Kirex
Vale Heavy Industries Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2008.01.03 00:23:00 -
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You're all laughing now.... but you wont be laughing when a territory-less BNC, RKK, Evol, DICE and Finfleet land on your doorstep. Just wait.
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Nez Perces
Amarr Metatron Inc.
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Posted - 2008.01.03 00:23:00 -
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Originally by: Stinkywrix
So how did the T20 scandal factor into bobs plan to lose?
Duh..... like... T20, being the good bobbit he was, was persuaded to take one for the team.. in order to kickstart the master plan..... you guys are so slow sometimes...
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Lasakywa
Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2008.01.03 00:25:00 -
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Originally by: "Originally Posted by Blacklight"
If you think having someone like 0utbreak landing on your doorstep is painful, look forward to having a territory-less Finfleet landing on your doorstep
Yes, finfleet is sooo stronger then 0utbreak
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Orree
Gallente Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.01.03 00:30:00 -
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Originally by: Avernus
Quote: and see the demise of massive multi-alliance power blocks
^ Gets my vote.
Mine too...but given the high stakes and high cost associated with 0.0 infrastructure, it's really hard to envision a situation where large power blocs don't exist. I do hope things do winds down to smaller, regional conficts, though. No doubt about it.
Personally, I believe BoB itself is stronger than most (if not all) other single alliance in the game. Therefore, when they choose to atack someone in the future, it stands to reason that the attacked entity is going to call as many friends as it can to try to survive. That doesn't even taken into account the inevitable friends of BoB (every alliance has friends). Of course, the key (as always these days) is how much does an invaded entity want to keep its space? We've seen plenty of examples of alliances pulling up stakes without much of a fight.
Failing to rally everything to stop BoB in the future really just means we start the whole cycle again.
It will be interesting to see how things end up working out, to be sure.
"How much easier it is to be critical than to be correct." ---Benjamin Disraeli |
jam6549
Our Leitmotif
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Posted - 2008.01.03 00:31:00 -
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if this crap is true, seems like the sort of thing they would do. I mean come on, who wants to fight easily? That makes the game boring! Much more fun when you're on the run :P
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The Mittani
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 00:38:00 -
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you see they were only faking outrage when all their allies finally abandoned them because they never ACTUALLY wanted allies
i must bow before ~*DA PUPPETMASTAS*~ in bob srsly
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Hitme Harder
HERRO KITTY
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Posted - 2008.01.03 00:54:00 -
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This contradicts everything ever written by a bob member in the past 4 years.
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MAXSuicide
Cosmic Fusion When Fat Kids Attack
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Posted - 2008.01.03 00:56:00 -
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Originally by: Lasakywa
Originally by: "Originally Posted by Blacklight"
If you think having someone like 0utbreak landing on your doorstep is painful, look forward to having a territory-less Finfleet landing on your doorstep
Yes, finfleet is sooo stronger then 0utbreak
neither, tbh.
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Louis Lane
Minmatar Imperium Holding corp
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Posted - 2008.01.03 00:56:00 -
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Originally by: Pat McCrotch
Originally by: Scavok Edited by: Scavok on 02/01/2008 23:17:46 It's like reading lotka.org. The funny thing is that half of BoB is former LV, who folded and split faster than ASCN, D2, V, and hell, even RISE. So yeah maybe BoB won't die, but the bandwagon will go ride bikes.
You are right, BoB did take a lot of LV, but they took the part that wanted to continue the fight.
Basically you can say that BoB has amassed all the players that wanted the fight to rage on and it was the turncoats...errr carebears that killed the alliances that you mention.
lol bob took the part that had all the titans and major assets.
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Lowa
Gallente North Star Networks Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.01.03 01:01:00 -
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Originally by: DoctorGonzo The video in the op is rubbish, I much prefer the one where he loses his Raven passed out at the keyboard. It's much funnier and more relevant if you know that man. Was it Mafia way back in 2004/05?
QFT! That was and still is funny!
And just to comment on the OP; The words and the way it has played out may have changed but the content and plan is the same as when I heard it the first time; BoB planned for epic things inluding scenarios like they are facing now for a long time.
You either believe them or not, I know what I know. Fire it up.
Cheers, Lowa
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YouShallKnowFear
Fourty-Two
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Posted - 2008.01.03 01:02:00 -
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Originally by: The Mittani you see they were only faking outrage when all their allies finally abandoned them because they never ACTUALLY wanted allies
i must bow before ~*DA PUPPETMASTAS*~ in bob srsly
Originally by: "Clurk Brodon" It seems everyone forgot what Kugutsumen wrote on his blog after hacking into the BoB internal forum last year :
http://kugutsumen.blogspot.com/2006/12/bob-is-afraid-of-aaa-goons-ra-d2.html
Monday, 25 December 2006
Quote: DB Preacher reminded everyone that the original plan was: 1. attack ascn, **** them off, take out capital fleet. 2. attack d2-, **** them off, take out capital fleet. 3. Spend next year in delve with all of eve attacking us. Sir Molle rectified dbp's post saying that it was supposed to be D2 first.
As Kugutsumen can hardly be called a BoB pet, I think it proves Molle said the truth: that's what they planned for all along.
For a spymaster you're pretty out of the know.
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Ungdall
Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 01:04:00 -
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I'd like everyone to note, when ever goonfleet dies, we planned it.
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Hast
Applied Eugenics Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2008.01.03 01:06:00 -
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this thread sucks and so does the recording
Originally by: omeega PICTURE TOO BIG, KGB INCOMING HAVE FUN.
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OSughhi
Romanian Army of ManiaCS
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Posted - 2008.01.03 01:08:00 -
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I was confused by op name, believed the topic is Rubish.
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Attak
Trioptimum The Reckoning.
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Posted - 2008.01.03 01:09:00 -
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We'd been planning for FREGE to leave the drone regions and disband ever since we formed up and moved to the drone regions.
This was of course part of a plan hatched by BoB years ago to manipulate the entire game so that they would lose all their space and emerge the ultimate victors.
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Valora
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 01:19:00 -
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Whats a pendulum?
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Nez Perces
Amarr Metatron Inc.
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Posted - 2008.01.03 01:19:00 -
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Edited by: Nez Perces on 03/01/2008 01:21:14
Originally by: Lowa
And just to comment on the OP; The words and the way it has played out may have changed but the content and plan is the same as when I heard it the first time; BoB planned for epic things inluding scenarios like they are facing now for a long time.
It is possible that BoB had visualised an epic slugfest where they would engage the whole of EVE, and make a heroic stand against unsourmantable odds and inflict possibly mortal wounds on their enemies.
However, I for one am positive that in no shape or form did they envisage Goonswarm as the vocal ringleaders of the whole affair. There is too much doublethink in this whole "we planned it this way" angle, for it to be *real*.
I doubt having GS ram BoB's defeat down their throats is going to be very palatable, thats if BoB are defeated which I don't yet believe is a foregone conclusion, or at least not as simple as many are making out to be.
[edit: typo]
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hired goon
Infinite Improbability Inc Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2008.01.03 01:39:00 -
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Originally by: Kirex You're all laughing now.... but you wont be laughing when a territory-less BNC, RKK, Evol, DICE and Finfleet land on your doorstep. Just wait.
Yeah we know. We're all dead, we just don't know it yet. -omg-
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Orangir
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 01:41:00 -
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Originally by: Lowa
QFT! That was and still is funny!
And just to comment on the OP; The words and the way it has played out may have changed but the content and plan is the same as when I heard it the first time; BoB planned for epic things inluding scenarios like they are facing now for a long time.
You either believe them or not, I know what I know. Fire it up.
Cheers, Lowa
Right, BoB has had this planned all from the start. Which is why we have page after page of posts from BoB's internal forums indicating that their one and only desire was to control all of 0.0 and be imaginary space tyrants? That's all irrelevant though because some people just have a "feeling" that BoB has had this all mapped out, they just know what they know, right?
Every alliance plans for epic things, but saying that BoB "planned" to lose everything and get completely and utterly embarrassed by an alliance they once claimed was dead and buried is the most pathetic backpedaling we've seen since LV's original "we didn't want that space anyway".
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hired goon
Infinite Improbability Inc Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2008.01.03 01:46:00 -
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Originally by: Orangir
Originally by: Lowa
QFT! That was and still is funny!
And just to comment on the OP; The words and the way it has played out may have changed but the content and plan is the same as when I heard it the first time; BoB planned for epic things inluding scenarios like they are facing now for a long time.
You either believe them or not, I know what I know. Fire it up.
Cheers, Lowa
Right, BoB has had this planned all from the start. Which is why we have page after page of posts from BoB's internal forums indicating that their one and only desire was to control all of 0.0 and be imaginary space tyrants? That's all irrelevant though because some people just have a "feeling" that BoB has had this all mapped out, they just know what they know, right?
Every alliance plans for epic things, but saying that BoB "planned" to lose everything and get completely and utterly embarrassed by an alliance they once claimed was dead and buried is the most pathetic backpedaling we've seen since LV's original "we didn't want that space anyway".
Also, remember, "Goonswarm will never be able to build up in 0.0 space in any way ever again." -omg-
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Carnap
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Posted - 2008.01.03 01:46:00 -
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Hot dongue salad jumped off the Tallahatchie Bridge.
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Kymlicka
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 01:52:00 -
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Originally by: Carnap Hot dongue salad jumped off the Tallahatchie Bridge.
Quoting for dongues, salad, and truth.
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Kyrie Elaison
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2008.01.03 01:53:00 -
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Originally by: Kirex You're all laughing now.... but you wont be laughing when a territory-less BNC, RKK, Evol, DICE and Finfleet land on your doorstep. Just wait.
Touche, the homeless are no laughing matter.
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Cvuos
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 02:01:00 -
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Originally by: Kymlicka
Originally by: Carnap Hot dongue salad jumped off the Tallahatchie Bridge.
Quoting for dongues, salad, and truth.
Quoting for dongues only.
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Franga
NQX Innovations
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Posted - 2008.01.03 02:01:00 -
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Originally by: Kymlicka
Originally by: Carnap Hot dongue salad jumped off the Tallahatchie Bridge.
Quoting for dongues, salad, and truth.
Totally.
Originally by: Rachel Vend ... with 100% reliability in most cases ...
General Aesthetics Changes Thread |
Shoukei
Caldari Boobs Ahoy
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Posted - 2008.01.03 02:05:00 -
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Quote: Originally Posted by Blacklight In terms of likely outcomes and consequences for BoB the first thing you have to remember is that we've been setting this war and it's climax up for over two years now. Why on earth do you think we've been acting all arrogant, rubbing people's noses in it, kicking sand in everyone's faces and generally ****ing everyone off for so long?
People seem to forget that we wanted this war, we wanted these odds, we wanted the challenge, we wanted this much pressure and we wanted to risk everything. Why? So we could engineer the most epic conflict Eve has ever seen, create the best player driven content in any MMO ever and ensure both you (yes all of you, even Mittani Razz) and we have the most fun ever. The likes of Molle, Galavet, Thol, Coranor and myself have been dreaming of this and working towards it for years.
I can tell you for sure that forcing us out of Delve won't kill us, as a group of corporations and people we work too well together, have too much history together, have too much fun together and enjoy each other's company too much to just go our seperate ways.
Even if we have a few months off doing our own thing as a break if/when we get forced out of Delve, you'll see BoB back in action again somewhere. We've been gaming together for close on four years now, losing this war (and remember we've been working towards this climax for two years now) and losing the rest of our territory will just push us into a new phase, new style, new goals, new challenges and more fun.
I for one will most certainly hold my head up high, stick a finger up at everyone and laugh when I say "we went down fighting in Delve and look how many of you ******* it took to do it... I hope you all had as much fun as we did" Razz
If you think having someone like 0utbreak landing on your doorstep is painful, look forward to having a territory-less BNC, RKK, Evol, DICE and Finfleet landing on your doorstep, it'll be like having a high speed gravel enema in space.
In terms of what happens after this war politically, I hope we see a rash of much smaller territorial wars, much shorter positive standings lists all round and see the demise of massive multi-alliance power blocks (at least for a while).
this was posted on Monday, 25 December 2006
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Martin VanBuren
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 02:07:00 -
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I have to wonder why, if BoB wanted to lose so badly from the start, so many of their veterans, such as Blacklight and Farjung, 'quit' eve and left the game when they started losing?*
*Winning?
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DaiTengu
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 02:10:00 -
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Originally by: Martin VanBuren I have to wonder why, if BoB wanted to lose so badly from the start, so many of their veterans, such as Blacklight and Farjung, 'quit' eve and left the game when they started losing?*
*Winning?
It's real simple, you see... they 'quit' to encourage the enemy so that they could lose space faster.
Soon they will control all of 0.0
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Lunas Feelgood
S.A.S
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Posted - 2008.01.03 02:11:00 -
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LMAO is that the best they can come up with
BOB has got one purpose and thats to win with whatever metagaming trick they could use..
This has got to be the most pathetic excuse for losing a war ever ..
I got a quiestion to soem of the bob grunts do you actually belive this **** some of you ******** leaders say??
If so I really want to be you future bank maneger.
Anyway thx for the laugh blacklight Signature
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JeanPaul Sartre
26th of July Movement
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Posted - 2008.01.03 02:19:00 -
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Quite possibly the least amusing vid featuring Comical Ali I have ever had the misfortune to switch off after less than one minute played.
And trust me.. I've sat through less than 60 seconds of some real howlers before.
Post better parodies please. --
Quote: If a victory is told in detail, one can no longer distinguish it from a defeat.
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Will Hunter
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Originally by: JeanPaul Sartre Quite possibly the least amusing vid featuring Comical Ali I have ever had the misfortune to switch off after less than one minute played.
And trust me.. I've sat through less than 60 seconds of some real howlers before.
Post better parodies please.
its you, you are the better parody
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duckmonster
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 03:08:00 -
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Originally by: Kirex You're all laughing now.... but you wont be laughing when a territory-less BNC, RKK, Evol, DICE and Finfleet land on your doorstep. Just wait.
I'm afraid if they turn up in scalding pass looking for Soup and Blankets, they will be stiff out of luck. Our blankets all have smallpox.
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Moonlight Express
Amarr Moonlight Express Inc.
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Posted - 2008.01.03 03:24:00 -
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Originally by: duckmonster
Originally by: Kirex You're all laughing now.... but you wont be laughing when a territory-less BNC, RKK, Evol, DICE and Finfleet land on your doorstep. Just wait.
I'm afraid if they turn up in scalding pass looking for Soup and Blankets, they will be stiff out of luck. Our blankets all have smallpox.
I'm sure they won't be hard to find. Just look in local.
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Dahin
Maza Nostra oooh Shiny
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Posted - 2008.01.03 03:56:00 -
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I was actually counting the pages till lunas replied. 3! You're getting old man.
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DigitalCommunist
Obsidian Core
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Posted - 2008.01.03 04:41:00 -
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Propaganda aside, that is actually true. No matter how much you want to satirize it.
I started writing a reply to the SHC thread where you got it from, but it was locked. But to summarize, I think a statement like the one BL made (and similar) manages to cheese the enemy off real good. If you're attacking, and someone is clearly losing, the last thing you want them to be is proud of themselves. You want them to eat crow, bend over, feel the karma, taste their medicine, etc etc.. And instead they're grinning, mooning or giving the finger.
But this isn't even the first, second or third time EVE's been through the "impending demise of BoB". All you're ever doing with a force of numbers is giving their players a massive ego stroke, and keeping the alliance the center of attention. I would be interested in seeing what effect this had on witless newbies coming to EVE. Would certainly explain the myth and legend parts of BoB's image :p
The only thing different now is you might succeed in changing public perception of BoB from 12ft-giant-that-farts-lightning to underdog-RAstyle-pariah-martyrhero. Not sure what to say of that, but given the choice most people want to be the latter.
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Lunas Feelgood
S.A.S
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Posted - 2008.01.03 05:06:00 -
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Edited by: Lunas Feelgood on 03/01/2008 05:06:29
Originally by: DigitalCommunist Propaganda aside, that is actually true. No matter how much you want to satirize it.
But this isn't even the first, second or third time EVE's been through the "impending demise of BoB". All you're ever doing with a force of numbers is giving their players a massive ego stroke, and keeping the alliance the center of attention. I would be interested in seeing what effect this had on witless newbies coming to EVE. Would certainly explain the myth and legend parts of BoB's image :p
The only thing different now is you might succeed in changing public perception of BoB from 12ft-giant-that-farts-lightning to underdog-RAstyle-pariah-martyrhero. Not sure what to say of that, but given the choice most people want to be the latter.
I'm pretty irritated not being involved in this somehow, cause fighting the war of all wars (again) for either side (again) seems like the best reason to overdose on caffeine and epic.
God give me a break digi dear.
The last 3 years of every action bob has taken has been to create an empire. An empire whos only goal was to dominate EVE and there is so much evidence to back it up..
Bob has never acted the way they did becuase they like to fight. They have acted the way they did becuase they like to win. You want evididence lets just take a few example.
Bob vs FA.. Infiltrating FA with alts so they could offline a tower that basically made FA to quit. This was not done by a big wish to fight but the sole purpose was to win with whatever it took. I think it was the first example in EVE where metagaming was introduced.
EC- 600 man blob lead by bob against Trust. A direct assault on G & Iron. This 600man blob was not created becuase bob wanted to fight it was created becuase they wanted to win.
BOB vs ASCN I have never seen a more dirty war in EVE ever.. Every aspect of matagaming from spies to TS infiltration, forum propaganda was done to avoid fighting a long war vs ASCN. BOb wanted to win they didnt wanted to fight them.
And the list goes on and on digi.
So when you and blacklight comes here and directly lie to all of us just so you can try to come up with and excuse to why you are losing this war then im starting to think wtf is going on?? As fare as I know evol has allways hated liers..
Also a final argument. Why in gods name has several of the old timers including one CEO mr hippocrit himself, AKA blackligh been gone from the game since bob started to lose this wars of all wars? you know why because he is a guy that dont like to fight he likes to win..
The only one in hole of bob that like to fight is thol and crew and what in gods name they are still doing with you muppets is beyond me.
So this hole story some of the bob leaders are trying to come up with instead of just dealing with there own incompetence and realisied they are about to lose the war fair and squar they got bet by a newer and much better opponent in anyway. Maybe not in big fleet fights mostly becuase you got thol but they beat you in a pure tactical way. And thats impressiv.
On a final note at the end of ASCN all the muppets leaders in there came up with all sort of excuses on why they lost And if i recall right many of you guys was laughing you asses off. And now its happening to you and instead of just admiting that you are about to gte beat by a better opponent you come up with this utter bull****??
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Central Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2008.01.03 05:06:00 -
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Edited by: Victor Vision on 03/01/2008 05:13:33
Originally by: DigitalCommunist Propaganda aside, that is actually true. No matter how much you want to satirize it.
I started writing a reply to the SHC thread where you got it from, but it was locked. But to summarize, I think a statement like the one BL made (and similar) manages to cheese the enemy off real good. If you're attacking, and someone is clearly losing, the last thing you want them to be is proud of themselves. You want them to eat crow, bend over, feel the karma, taste their medicine, etc etc.. And instead they're grinning, mooning or giving the finger.
But this isn't even the first, second or third time EVE's been through the "impending demise of BoB". All you're ever doing with a force of numbers is giving their players a massive ego stroke, and keeping the alliance the center of attention. I would be interested in seeing what effect this had on witless newbies coming to EVE. Would certainly explain the myth and legend parts of BoB's image :p
The only thing different now is you might succeed in changing public perception of BoB from 12ft-giant-that-farts-lightning to underdog-RAstyle-pariah-martyrhero. Not sure what to say of that, but given the choice most people want to be the latter.
I'm pretty irritated not being involved in this somehow, cause fighting the war of all wars (again) for either side (again) seems like the best reason to overdose on caffeine and epic.
First of all, good to see you post in CAOD. It is not so bad here after all, if you got a slight sense of humour onboard
Of course, I disagree with most of what you said. The coalition is not intimidated by BoBs continued arrogance. In fact, this displayed arrogance seems rather funny instead. In a tragic way.
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snerdly
snerd LTD
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Posted - 2008.01.03 05:12:00 -
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Edited by: snerdly on 03/01/2008 05:14:02
Originally by: DigitalCommunist Propaganda aside, that is actually true. No matter how much you want to satirize it.
I started writing a reply to the SHC thread where you got it from, but it was locked. But to summarize, I think a statement like the one BL made (and similar) manages to cheese the enemy off real good. If you're attacking, and someone is clearly losing, the last thing you want them to be is proud of themselves. You want them to eat crow, bend over, feel the karma, taste their medicine, etc etc.. And instead they're grinning, mooning or giving the finger.
But this isn't even the first, second or third time EVE's been through the "impending demise of BoB". All you're ever doing with a force of numbers is giving their players a massive ego stroke, and keeping the alliance the center of attention. I would be interested in seeing what effect this had on witless newbies coming to EVE. Would certainly explain the myth and legend parts of BoB's image :p
The only thing different now is you might succeed in changing public perception of BoB from 12ft-giant-that-farts-lightning to underdog-RAstyle-pariah-martyrhero. Not sure what to say of that, but given the choice most people want to be the latter.
I'm pretty irritated not being involved in this somehow, cause fighting the war of all wars (again) for either side (again) seems like the best reason to overdose on caffeine and epic.
Counter-quote! Hyaaaaaaa!
Originally by: Endie Whoah, I haven't read Scrapheap Challenge in a long time, and now I remember why. The fact that every single poster isn't snorting their drinks out their nose in amazed hilarity shows just how weak their critical reading skills are.
Suddenly Wagaa, Coranor, Molly and a couple other of the incompetent Bob mouthpieces come out with this "yeah well this is how we planned it all haha everything is proceeding as intended" nonsense, within hours of each other with each spouting minor variations on the same script, and people don't say "um, guys, that sounds kinda forced. Did you have a meeting?"
We've seen the outrage, the despondency, the impotent fury. I mean, Molly, you do know we read your forums, yes? I've watched Bob's offensive and then defensive campaigns peter out as their members tire of losing ships or of not being able to fight. I've seen their prime-time participation go down, down, down... And we've all seen the repeat losers from laughable corps we've already defeated that have been allowed to join in the hopes of keeping their numbers up.
This "hay guys we're having the best time ever instant PvP" doesn't gel with what we're actually seeing. Of course, there will be a few empire-based players that don't see it, don't educate themselves about the context, and still believe it. But surely nobody involved in the fight actually buys this horse****?
Also, to add something of my own... Digi, 'public perception' of BoB is not a rosy as you seem to think.
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Vasili Z
Beasts of Burden YouWhat
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Posted - 2008.01.03 05:15:00 -
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Originally by: Lunas Feelgood they got bet by a newer and much better opponent in anyway. Maybe not in big fleet fights mostly becuase you got thol but they beat you in a pure tactical way. And thats impressiv.
Hahaha, oh man, you slay me. That's a knee-slapper right there. -------
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Lunas Feelgood
S.A.S
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Posted - 2008.01.03 05:17:00 -
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Originally by: Vasili Z
Originally by: Lunas Feelgood they got bet by a newer and much better opponent in anyway. Maybe not in big fleet fights mostly becuase you got thol but they beat you in a pure tactical way. And thats impressiv.
Hahaha, oh man, you slay me. That's a knee-slapper right there.
I hear one-liners doubles you chances to get layd this year dear..
Btw thats just a rumor, personally i dont belive it Signature
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Vasili Z
Beasts of Burden YouWhat
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Posted - 2008.01.03 05:21:00 -
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Originally by: Lunas Feelgood
Originally by: Vasili Z
Originally by: Lunas Feelgood they got bet by a newer and much better opponent in anyway. Maybe not in big fleet fights mostly becuase you got thol but they beat you in a pure tactical way. And thats impressiv.
Hahaha, oh man, you slay me. That's a knee-slapper right there.
I hear one-liners doubles you chances to get layd this year dear..
Btw thats just a rumor, personally i dont belive it
You obviously hear, and think, a lot of stupid ****. -------
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Lunas Feelgood
S.A.S
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Posted - 2008.01.03 05:23:00 -
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Originally by: Vasili Z
Originally by: Lunas Feelgood
Originally by: Vasili Z
Originally by: Lunas Feelgood they got bet by a newer and much better opponent in anyway. Maybe not in big fleet fights mostly becuase you got thol but they beat you in a pure tactical way. And thats impressiv.
Hahaha, oh man, you slay me. That's a knee-slapper right there.
I hear one-liners doubles you chances to get layd this year dear..
Btw thats just a rumor, personally i dont belive it
You obviously hear, and think, a lot of stupid ****.
I got that line from wildcard after i personally saved you pathetic alliance in XZH from the goons. Signature
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Xiang TaSkalin
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 05:25:00 -
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Originally by: Lunas Feelgood
Originally by: Vasili Z
Originally by: Lunas Feelgood
Originally by: Vasili Z
Originally by: Lunas Feelgood they got bet by a newer and much better opponent in anyway. Maybe not in big fleet fights mostly becuase you got thol but they beat you in a pure tactical way. And thats impressiv.
Hahaha, oh man, you slay me. That's a knee-slapper right there.
I hear one-liners doubles you chances to get layd this year dear..
Btw thats just a rumor, personally i dont belive it
You obviously hear, and think, a lot of stupid ****.
I got that line from wildcard after i personally saved you pathetic alliance in XZH from the goons.
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Death Merchant
InterGalactic Corp. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2008.01.03 05:28:00 -
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Its called an escape clause. A lot of alliances use them. Its like invading someone and saying its a holiday or vacation. If you get beat back and leave you can say its just as you planned. If you decide to leave because they don't undock or don't give easy kills anymore, you can say thats what you planned. If you decide to stay permanently you can say "nice region, well take it".
Let me say that I think BoB is far from dead. I just think that they are planning an escape route. You know like the bajillion references to "what happens when BoB comes to your space", and "we have no region so we can go live in yours". When they first came north to fight PA, they didn't have space either(unless you count fountain). However eventually the guys and gals who do the industrial lifting will need a place to set up Rorquals/Hulks/POS. If they find that place, I see them surviving and becoming better than their peak(8 region?). However they have also made it so that it's in a lot of people's best interest that they not recover. Who knows, we make look back in a few months and this first year + could be just the beginning of the war. We will see.
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Victor Vision
Central Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2008.01.03 05:30:00 -
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Originally by: Vasili Z
Originally by: Lunas Feelgood
Originally by: Vasili Z
Originally by: Lunas Feelgood they got bet by a newer and much better opponent in anyway. Maybe not in big fleet fights mostly becuase you got thol but they beat you in a pure tactical way. And thats impressiv.
Hahaha, oh man, you slay me. That's a knee-slapper right there.
I hear one-liners doubles you chances to get layd this year dear..
Btw thats just a rumor, personally i dont belive it
You obviously hear, and think, a lot of stupid ****.
Vasili, YouWhat?
Seriously, BoB and the likes of YouWhat have become running gags in the game. Not meant as a flame, mere observation.
Sometimes it is a good thing to realize when you lost.
There is no need to lay siege on Delve. Why do you and your masters not come and play with the coalition? On coalition turf?
Scared?
Sun Tzu said, attack the enemy where he least expects it, and do it rapidly when there is a chance.
Bring it.
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TrevorReznik
Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 05:37:00 -
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bob's plan since rev2 hit: run away from RSF and hide behind their pets, refusing to engage in bad situations because they'd rather lose regions than a fleet fight
i also remember when bob used to field 60-70 man fleets in us timezone and come shoot goons, odd that those have essentially disappeared
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Vasili Z
Beasts of Burden YouWhat
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Posted - 2008.01.03 05:49:00 -
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Originally by: Lunas Feelgood
Originally by: Vasili Z
Originally by: Lunas Feelgood
Originally by: Vasili Z
Originally by: Lunas Feelgood they got bet by a newer and much better opponent in anyway. Maybe not in big fleet fights mostly becuase you got thol but they beat you in a pure tactical way. And thats impressiv.
Hahaha, oh man, you slay me. That's a knee-slapper right there.
I hear one-liners doubles you chances to get layd this year dear..
Btw thats just a rumor, personally i dont belive it
You obviously hear, and think, a lot of stupid ****.
I got that line from wildcard after i personally saved you pathetic alliance in XZH from the goons.
Hey look, skewed bitter remarks about my alliance ticker simply because you can't deal with what I said in the CAOD forum *yawn*, been there, done that. Lay off the forum juice. Kablammo! -------
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Erik Amirault
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 05:51:00 -
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So I guess Youwhat won because they got fights every time they logged in. So I guess CORM won because they got fights every time they logged in. So I guess ISS won because they got fights every time they logged in. So I guess RISE won because they got fights every time they logged in.
Everybody's a winner! Yay!
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Darkrydar
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 06:08:00 -
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Originally by: Lunas Feelgood LMAO is that the best they can come up with
BOB has got one purpose and thats to win with whatever metagaming trick they could use..
This has got to be the most pathetic excuse for losing a war ever ..
I got a quiestion to soem of the bob grunts do you actually belive this **** some of you ******** leaders say??
If so I really want to be you future bank maneger.
Anyway thx for the laugh blacklight
I can always count on your obsession-laced dribble to be added to every Bob thread you see. It's good to know something never will change.
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Darkrydar
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 06:10:00 -
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Originally by: TrevorReznik bob's plan since rev2 hit: run away from RSF and hide behind their pets, refusing to engage in bad situations because they'd rather lose regions than a fleet fight
i also remember when bob used to field 60-70 man fleets in us timezone and come shoot goons, odd that those have essentially disappeared
Where abouts is your goonfleet? USTZ is liek chasing ghosts atm. All your pets can do is cloak and hide.
Hey wasn't that your fleet op that we chased down on the USTZ and destroyed a few nights ago?
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Lunas Feelgood
S.A.S
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Posted - 2008.01.03 06:11:00 -
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Originally by: Darkrydar
Originally by: Lunas Feelgood LMAO is that the best they can come up with
BOB has got one purpose and thats to win with whatever metagaming trick they could use..
This has got to be the most pathetic excuse for losing a war ever ..
I got a quiestion to soem of the bob grunts do you actually belive this **** some of you ******** leaders say??
If so I really want to be you future bank maneger.
Anyway thx for the laugh blacklight
I can always count on your obsession-laced dribble to be added to every Bob thread you see. It's good to know something never will change.
And who are you dear??
Are you one of those new bobbits who has been in bob 1/2 year 1 year? And suddenly think you know me??
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Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 06:15:00 -
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Originally by: Lunas Feelgood
Originally by: Darkrydar
Originally by: Lunas Feelgood LMAO is that the best they can come up with
BOB has got one purpose and thats to win with whatever metagaming trick they could use..
This has got to be the most pathetic excuse for losing a war ever ..
I got a quiestion to soem of the bob grunts do you actually belive this **** some of you ******** leaders say??
If so I really want to be you future bank maneger.
Anyway thx for the laugh blacklight
I can always count on your obsession-laced dribble to be added to every Bob thread you see. It's good to know something never will change.
And who are you dear??
Are you one of those new bobbits who has been in bob 1/2 year 1 year? And suddenly think you know me??
I remember helping crush your little crap alliance NBSI I think up north. I remember your ill formed dribble from then and it hasn't gotten any better. Aren't you the guy that posted with your main when trying to flame us with an alt as well?
Oh and I've been in BOB as long as DICE has, so...
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Darkrydar
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 06:16:00 -
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Originally by: Victor Vision
Sometimes it is a good thing to realize when you lost.
There is no need to lay siege on Delve. Why do you and your masters not come and play with the coalition? On coalition turf?
Scared?
Sun Tzu said, attack the enemy where he least expects it, and do it rapidly when there is a chance.
Bring it.
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Lunas Feelgood
S.A.S
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Posted - 2008.01.03 06:17:00 -
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Edited by: Lunas Feelgood on 03/01/2008 06:17:59
Originally by: Darkrydar
Originally by: Lunas Feelgood
Originally by: Darkrydar
Originally by: Lunas Feelgood LMAO is that the best they can come up with
BOB has got one purpose and thats to win with whatever metagaming trick they could use..
This has got to be the most pathetic excuse for losing a war ever ..
I got a quiestion to soem of the bob grunts do you actually belive this **** some of you ******** leaders say??
If so I really want to be you future bank maneger.
Anyway thx for the laugh blacklight
I can always count on your obsession-laced dribble to be added to every Bob thread you see. It's good to know something never will change.
And who are you dear??
Are you one of those new bobbits who has been in bob 1/2 year 1 year? And suddenly think you know me??
I remember helping crush your little crap alliance NBSI I think up north. I remember your ill formed dribble from then and it hasn't gotten any better. Aren't you the guy that posted with your main when trying to flame us with an alt as well?
Oh and I've been in BOB as long as DICE has, so...
Wow weird i have never meet you before then ever.. Are you like one of those secret ultimate bad ass FC who you never see?
Btw for the destruction of NBSI we had planned that we wanted all of EVE to shoot us.. And then go out with a bang Signature
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Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 06:20:00 -
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Originally by: Lunas Feelgood
Wow weird i have never meet you before then ever.. Are you like one of those secret ultimate bad ass FC who you never see?
Btw for the destruction of NBSI we had planned that we wanted all of EVE to shoot us.. And then go out with a bang
At least you could flame we with your alt or something...
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duckmonster
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 06:23:00 -
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Originally by: Erik Amirault So I guess Youwhat won because they got fights every time they logged in. So I guess CORM won because they got fights every time they logged in. So I guess ISS won because they got fights every time they logged in. So I guess RISE won because they got fights every time they logged in.
Everybody's a winner! Yay!
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S.A.S
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Posted - 2008.01.03 06:25:00 -
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Originally by: Darkrydar
Originally by: Lunas Feelgood
Wow weird i have never meet you before then ever.. Are you like one of those secret ultimate bad ass FC who you never see?
Btw for the destruction of NBSI we had planned that we wanted all of EVE to shoot us.. And then go out with a bang
At least you could flame we with your alt or something...
man you comebacks are getting better and better dear I surrender
Btw i just did a little check on you . you was in shinra at the 5 vs NBSI war. If i recall right shinra pulled out in the middle of the empire war and formed LV??
So why in gods name are you taking credit for something you wasnt even part off??
Anyway ill ask my god friend dave who you are you have made me quite curious
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Central Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2008.01.03 06:38:00 -
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Originally by: Darkrydar
Originally by: Victor Vision
Sometimes it is a good thing to realize when you lost.
There is no need to lay siege on Delve. Why do you and your masters not come and play with the coalition? On coalition turf?
Scared?
Sun Tzu said, attack the enemy where he least expects it, and do it rapidly when there is a chance.
Bring it.
Gold
Isn't it.
I knew you would like it.
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Darkrydar
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 06:44:00 -
[93]
Originally by: Lunas Feelgood
Originally by: Darkrydar
Originally by: Lunas Feelgood
Wow weird i have never meet you before then ever.. Are you like one of those secret ultimate bad ass FC who you never see?
Btw for the destruction of NBSI we had planned that we wanted all of EVE to shoot us.. And then go out with a bang
At least you could flame we with your alt or something...
man you comebacks are getting better and better dear I surrender
Btw i just did a little check on you . you was in shinra at the 5 vs NBSI war. If i recall right shinra pulled out in the middle of the empire war and formed LV??
So why in gods name are you taking credit for something you wasnt even part off??
Anyway ill ask my god friend dave who you are you have made me quite curious
Probably because I was actually in ATUK at that time?
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Vile rat
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 07:26:00 -
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Originally by: Darkrydar Where abouts is your goonfleet? USTZ is liek chasing ghosts atm. All your pets can do is cloak and hide.
Hey wasn't that your fleet op that we chased down on the USTZ and destroyed a few nights ago?
For best results I'd check around 25S/FAT/49-
I have a hunch you might know where those systems are.
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Twoside
Gallente Seven. Enuma Elish.
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Posted - 2008.01.03 07:28:00 -
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Originally by: Darkrydar
Originally by: Lunas Feelgood
Wow weird i have never meet you before then ever.. Are you like one of those secret ultimate bad ass FC who you never see?
Btw for the destruction of NBSI we had planned that we wanted all of EVE to shoot us.. And then go out with a bang
At least you could flame we with your alt or something...
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Malken
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Edited by: Malken on 03/01/2008 07:29:56
Originally by: Vile rat
Originally by: Darkrydar Where abouts is your goonfleet? USTZ is liek chasing ghosts atm. All your pets can do is cloak and hide.
Hey wasn't that your fleet op that we chased down on the USTZ and destroyed a few nights ago?
For best results I'd check around 25S/FAT/49-
I have a hunch you might know where those systems are.
he might not know it though. the bobbits have a habit of repressing some memories only to replace them with their own versions later on and then try and preach them as gospel.
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Araviel
Gallente Epic.
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Posted - 2008.01.03 08:12:00 -
[97]
ooh, isnt that speach over one yeard old now?, you just found it now?, great spying there
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pershphanie
Deadly Addiction
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Posted - 2008.01.03 08:33:00 -
[98]
Originally by: DoctorGonzo The video in the op is rubbish, I much prefer the one where he loses his Raven passed out at the keyboard. It's much funnier and more relevant if you know that man. Was it Mafia way back in 2004/05?
GODS. was on TS when it happened. quite the moment for us.
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OldPueblo
DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 08:42:00 -
[99]
"Guys we only want fights don't you understand we just love to pvp all day long."
/opens cyno & doomsdays enemy fleet /sips v8 /posts on forums
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Araviel
Gallente Epic.
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Posted - 2008.01.03 08:44:00 -
[100]
Originally by: DigitalCommunist
I'm pretty irritated not being involved in this somehow, cause fighting the war of all wars (again) for either side (again) seems like the best reason to overdose on caffeine and epic.
same here digi, but it got so laggy and RL spilled over a bit to much to.
right now im hoping the war will be over soon so i can go and do some skirmishes vs old bob friends, that would be fun and i know they would apreciate it to, and no way im joining the bandwagoon
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The Mittani
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 09:48:00 -
[101]
bobs current propaganda attempt is much like dbp's personal arc of failure:
1. chestbeat about how awesome he is 2. lose mothership to russians 3. quit
but with bob its like:
1. chestbeat about how they wanted to lose all this space 2. lose all this space 3. be unhappy that people dont believe them on caod 4. post on scrapheap a lot 5. go play wow
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Chowdown
Gallente Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 09:52:00 -
[102]
Originally by: The Mittani 4. post on scrapheap a lot
We didn't want coad anyway
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The Mittani
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 10:09:00 -
[103]
Originally by: Chowdown
Originally by: The Mittani 4. post on scrapheap a lot
We didn't want coad anyway
~*rollin wit' da punches*~
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Drasked
North Face Force
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Posted - 2008.01.03 10:18:00 -
[104]
I think the common misconception in this thread is the difference between "losing space" and "losing"
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pershphanie
Deadly Addiction
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Posted - 2008.01.03 10:21:00 -
[105]
Originally by: Drasked I think the common misconception in this thread is the difference between "losing space" and "losing"
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Voculus
E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2008.01.03 10:30:00 -
[106]
Originally by: Orangir Right, BoB has had this planned all from the start. Which is why we have page after page of posts from BoB's internal forums indicating that their one and only desire was to control all of 0.0 and be imaginary space tyrants? That's all irrelevant though because some people just have a "feeling" that BoB has had this all mapped out, they just know what they know, right?
Every alliance plans for epic things, but saying that BoB "planned" to lose everything and get completely and utterly embarrassed by an alliance they once claimed was dead and buried is the most pathetic backpedaling we've seen since LV's original "we didn't want that space anyway".
That says it all right there. Bobbits are so arrogant and disconnected from everyone else in Eve, they actually believe they are so good they can say, "Even though we're losing, we're actually winning." _________________________________________________________
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Zorland
Minmatar Detinus Republic
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Posted - 2008.01.03 10:47:00 -
[107]
Originally by: Voculus
Originally by: Orangir Right, BoB has had this planned all from the start. Which is why we have page after page of posts from BoB's internal forums indicating that their one and only desire was to control all of 0.0 and be imaginary space tyrants? That's all irrelevant though because some people just have a "feeling" that BoB has had this all mapped out, they just know what they know, right?
Every alliance plans for epic things, but saying that BoB "planned" to lose everything and get completely and utterly embarrassed by an alliance they once claimed was dead and buried is the most pathetic backpedaling we've seen since LV's original "we didn't want that space anyway".
That says it all right there. Bobbits are so arrogant and disconnected from everyone else in Eve, they actually believe they are so good they can say, "Even though we're losing, we're actually winning."
If they are not so good there wouldn't be so many butthurt people posting here and rooting for them to die. But since you all are so bitter they must be doing something right.
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Gorefacer
Caldari Resurrection
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Posted - 2008.01.03 10:55:00 -
[108]
Originally by: Orangir
Originally by: Lowa
QFT! That was and still is funny!
And just to comment on the OP; The words and the way it has played out may have changed but the content and plan is the same as when I heard it the first time; BoB planned for epic things inluding scenarios like they are facing now for a long time.
You either believe them or not, I know what I know. Fire it up.
Cheers, Lowa
Right, BoB has had this planned all from the start. Which is why we have page after page of posts from BoB's internal forums indicating that their one and only desire was to control all of 0.0 and be imaginary space tyrants? That's all irrelevant though because some people just have a "feeling" that BoB has had this all mapped out, they just know what they know, right?
Every alliance plans for epic things, but saying that BoB "planned" to lose everything and get completely and utterly embarrassed by an alliance they once claimed was dead and buried is the most pathetic backpedaling we've seen since LV's original "we didn't want that space anyway".
Orangir, nothing anyone says on these forums embarrasses anyone ever at all.
Good job on the recruiting, finding/keeping friends, and propaganda (seriously actually, it's gotten you guys where you are). Goons do what they do well, BoB does what they do well. I don't see all this "embarrassment" that many keep bringing up.
Keep taking the game all chill and having fun.
I can believe that BoB may have had a similar scenario as a potential outcome of their actions in their mind this whole time, but it's pretty obvious that everything wasn't masterminded to the last detail.
BoB beat you guys down, and you guys rebounded and amassed a group that have beat them down back, good jobs all around, but the main difference I see on these boards is that BoB is looking forward to "epic" fights, while Goons* are still bitter and want to see BoB suffer at any cost.
Oh also, we've all already seen the "Goonswarm plans to 'fail' after we decide we've done what we wanted to with BoB" posts.
* All goons referred to in this post do not necessarily refer to the individual opinion of every Goon member. Rather the word is used to reference the general opinion I think the goons have after reading the small sample of goon posts on CAOD. This caveat was included as to not hurt goon feelings and hear the "there are 5000 goons and only a few post on CAOD" type posts.
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Zataaki
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 11:14:00 -
[109]
Originally by: Gorefacer but the main difference I see on these boards is that BoB is looking forward to "epic" fights
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thebold
MASS
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Posted - 2008.01.03 11:19:00 -
[110]
Well looks true, the power corp that formed into ATUK was more obsessed with claiming the X PVPers of CA and growing in pure strength and economical growth so that it could self sustain its leadership whilst attacking the North while BOB was in the south...
Molles opaque arrogence, the consistent evidence that they have always planned where they roughly want to be in the future by picking on its targets to wipe out potential power blocks. Coupled by the fact that some people in EVE really know what a solid corp is and the fact they don't really die like a conventional corp in EVE.
To tell the truth the all the enemies of BOB are now blinded by there own arrogance to see some truth into this, however no entity lasts for ever.
Bravo, may you die in a blaze of glory.
Now stay out of Stain Molle!
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SirMolle
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 11:26:00 -
[111]
People, people, people, now, dont be upset about the fact that we actually enjoy this, and, that we actually want it.
Just feel content with the fact that YOU are fulfilling our goals.
I'll repeat what i've said elsewhere; Epic wars and fights is what made us, epic wars and fights are not ever going to break us.
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I'l Duce
Minmatar Ch'an Zen
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Posted - 2008.01.03 11:31:00 -
[112]
Originally by: SirMolle People, people, people, now, dont be upset about the fact that we actually enjoy this, and, that we actually want it.
Just feel content with the fact that YOU are fulfilling our goals.
I'll repeat what i've said elsewhere; Epic wars and fights is what made us, epic wars and fights are not ever going to break us.
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SunglassesInSpace
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 11:32:00 -
[113]
Originally by: SirMolle People, people, people, now, dont be upset about the fact that we actually enjoy this, and, that we actually want it.
Just feel content with the fact that YOU are fulfilling our goals.
I'll repeat what i've said elsewhere; Epic wars and fights is what made us, epic wars and fights are not ever going to break us.
*Runs away through 5(?) regions*
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Hast
Applied Eugenics Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2008.01.03 11:35:00 -
[114]
the fact that Molle still can get this reaction proves that he is right. And some of you people are really ******* angry too
Originally by: omeega PICTURE TOO BIG, KGB INCOMING HAVE FUN.
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Sapapaya
Caldari Division Solaris
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Posted - 2008.01.03 11:36:00 -
[115]
Originally by: SunglassesInSpace
Originally by: SirMolle People, people, people, now, dont be upset about the fact that we actually enjoy this, and, that we actually want it.
Just feel content with the fact that YOU are fulfilling our goals.
I'll repeat what i've said elsewhere; Epic wars and fights is what made us, epic wars and fights are not ever going to break us.
*Runs away through 5(?) regions*
AHAHAHAH goon, remember me which region you conquered without 545446546546464 alliances/corps/cats/dogs to protect your ass....????
Syndicate! Oh wait
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RuleoftheBone
Minmatar Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.01.03 11:38:00 -
[116]
Edited by: RuleoftheBone on 03/01/2008 11:40:14
Originally by: SirMolle People, people, people, now, dont be upset about the fact that we actually enjoy this, and, that we actually want it.
Just feel content with the fact that YOU are fulfilling our goals.
I'll repeat what i've said elsewhere; Epic wars and fights is what made us, epic wars and fights are not ever going to break us.
"Your all dead...you just don't know it yet"
Remember that little gem? FYI I was rooting for you fellas but no amount of wierd spin changes the fact that should you lose-the winners write the history. Now get back to backing up that statement you so boldly made and enough of the silly "we didn't want this we wanted that" crap .
I certainly did not enjoy watching LV go down the tubes and I'm sure plenty of your grunts feel the same. Playing to lose makes zero sense.
**EDIT**Then again...having drawn certain pilots from LV into your fold it's easy to see how your head may have gotten buried in the sand. They are experts at that .
"Lead Me..Follow Me..Or get the **** out of my way" General George Patton USA
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Pesadel0
Vagabundos
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Posted - 2008.01.03 11:39:00 -
[117]
Originally by: Hast the fact that Molle still can get this reaction proves that he is right. And some of you people are really ******* angry too
Yeah he still is the dark overlord.
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Cippalippus Primus
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 11:40:00 -
[118]
I still don't believe this was planned, even though it makes sense as it keeps the BoB playerbase entertained and gives them all the fights they want, close to their home- but it's very hard to believe it was planned.
It might have been considered as an option, a plan to turtle up and still have fun while losing the war; something that every alliance has. But to believe that Band of Brothers conquered all those regions, installed client alliances everywhere, just to give them up and fight in Delve... well, I'm not buying this one.
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Neoromi
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Posted - 2008.01.03 11:41:00 -
[119]
Source lol
Monday, 25 December 2006
Quote: DB Preacher reminded everyone that the original plan was:
1. attack ascn, **** them off, take out capital fleet. 2. attack d2-, **** them off, take out capital fleet. 3. Spend next year in delve with all of eve attacking us.
Sir Molle rectified dbp's post saying that it was supposed to be D2 first.
lol at all the goonies foaming at the mouth.
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Fire Hawk
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 11:45:00 -
[120]
Edited by: Fire Hawk on 03/01/2008 11:46:11 OK, we know you all hate us and stuff... OK, we know you so strong all together that we will loose our space...
But, is it so hard to understand that we are having fun ?
What? You so naive that you think the statement "our goal is to control all 0.0" was purely true and not maint to create an epic war like this ?
How many are you against us now ? Every hour, we have a new form-up and action. Damn it, isnt what we all want ?
What is space needed for ? Mining?Ratting?
PS/EDIT : Dont bother quoting me, my post dont need replies to replies.
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Araviel
Gallente Epic.
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Posted - 2008.01.03 11:46:00 -
[121]
Originally by: SirMolle People, people, people, now, dont be upset about the fact that we actually enjoy this, and, that we actually want it.
Just feel content with the fact that YOU are fulfilling our goals.
I'll repeat what i've said elsewhere; Epic wars and fights is what made us, epic wars and fights are not ever going to break us.
This Song is for you Molle
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Vile rat
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 11:49:00 -
[122]
Originally by: SirMolle People, people, people, now, dont be upset about the fact that we actually enjoy this, and, that we actually want it.
Just feel content with the fact that YOU are fulfilling our goals.
I'll repeat what i've said elsewhere; Epic wars and fights is what made us, epic wars and fights are not ever going to break us.
Who are you again?
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o2bu4once
Amarr Dark Angel Battalion
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Posted - 2008.01.03 11:49:00 -
[123]
Originally by: SirMolle People, people, people, now, dont be upset about the fact that we actually enjoy this, and, that we actually want it.
Just feel content with the fact that YOU are fulfilling our goals.
I'll repeat what i've said elsewhere; Epic wars and fights is what made us, epic wars and fights are not ever going to break us.
Dice is in BoB, no one can plan for the utter crap that comes out of most of those guys in local.They were in The 5 and couldn't control themselves.That is ofc unless they are getting owned...then they seem to get pretty quiet.
All and all you have to say something to save some grace.The fight is far from over...however you keep on making your goals in EVE and this war different.
You went from saying Goons would never be allowed to ever build up in 0.0 or EVE too wanting all the fights to coem to you.To "vaccuming" back to one major regoin to try and get a better foot hold.Now we hear your alt posts of "OMG jsut wait till they have no home".The smallest force can be effective roaming....so can 10 man nano gangs.Who cares.
Fact is you have lost many battles in this war.Space,fleet fights,super caps and dedicated leaders.Talk all you want those that have access to threads and info game chats know,but keep the act up and your pilots will to fight strong.Your going to need it.
When does BoB plan to attack empire?Rememeber those plans?I bet not, as what is happening now with the group you said would never build anything in EVE is falling right into your plan.
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Mr Rive
Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.01.03 11:52:00 -
[124]
GUYS, GUYS DONT YOU GET IT? For BoB, it isnt about holding space, it isnt about winning all the time, its all about having fun, theyve been saying this for years!
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thebold
MASS
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Posted - 2008.01.03 11:52:00 -
[125]
Originally by: Vile rat Who are you again?
He is The Only SirMolle.
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Sergeant Spot
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 11:53:00 -
[126]
Edited by: Sergeant Spot on 03/01/2008 11:54:53 I remember chatting with other BoB on TS several times over the last couple of years, wondering when the hell some other alliance or group would finally give BoB a really solid challenge. I also remember the conclusion that sooner or latter we would tick off enough folks that simple numbers would do the trick, and I remember folks LOOKING FORWARD TO IT.
It did not take rocket science to see this coming.
As for lost space that has been highly developed, I and a number of other BoB (such as Blacklight among others...) played "Mankind" before Eve. In Mankind, players would spend a year building their fortress systems, all in the certain knowledge that they would be wiped from the game in glorious battle some day.
As in Mankind, an Alliance in Eve can only destroy itself.
I remember in Mankind, my guild's recurring enemy "Mordor" (many Mordor joined BoB in Eve....) acting like BoB, arrogant, claiming ownership of the whole galaxy, attacking were ever they wanted, building the most powerful fortresses the game had seen to that date, and then enventually being wiped completely from the map by a vast array of enemies.
Then Mordor rebuilt, came back, and defeated the enemies it had lost to.
They did it all deliberately.
I was a long running enemy of Mordor in Mankind, fighting them for years. In Eve I teamed up with them immediately, along with a number of my Mankind @alliance guildmates. Great enemies make great Corp mates.
In Short, core BoB member have a LONG history, in many cases PRE-DATING EVE, of LIKING to fight, LIKING a challenge, and are perfectly willing to keep pushing till they get one, even if means laying all their in game assets on the line.
Are there aspects of the last few years I and others would like to change. Yes. But never for an instant think we dont welcome a challenge.
EDIT: Warning: Mankind was great game for its day, but it was also flawed. Also, its creator, VIBES, went bankrupt, and Chinese company purchased the game. Word of advice: dont play it. Its not the game it once was.
Play nice while you butcher each other.
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Fire Hawk
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 11:53:00 -
[127]
Originally by: Araviel
Originally by: SirMolle People, people, people, now, dont be upset about the fact that we actually enjoy this, and, that we actually want it.
Just feel content with the fact that YOU are fulfilling our goals.
I'll repeat what i've said elsewhere; Epic wars and fights is what made us, epic wars and fights are not ever going to break us.
This Song is for you Molle
For my own curiosity, how much time you waited a SirMolle post to make this lowend "youtube song quote&post" ?
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Vile rat
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 11:54:00 -
[128]
Originally by: thebold
Originally by: Vile rat Who are you again?
He is The Only SirMolle.
Oh. Somebody important?
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Baxalusx
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 11:57:00 -
[129]
Originally by: SirMolle People, people, people, now, dont be upset about the fact that we actually enjoy this, and, that we actually want it.
Just feel content with the fact that YOU are fulfilling our goals.
I'll repeat what i've said elsewhere; Epic wars and fights is what made us, epic wars and fights are not ever going to break us.
after all this time of fighting us, you just still don't get it
which is why our coalition will continue to defecate on your alliance ---------
~THE ARTIST FORMERLY KNOWN AS ICORION~ |
thebold
MASS
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Posted - 2008.01.03 11:58:00 -
[130]
Originally by: Vile rat Oh. Somebody important?
He is going to become the almost perpetual thorn in your side.
May I also take this time to recommend sir that you book a doctors appointment for a cat scan, there might be something wrong inside of your head.
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Hast
Applied Eugenics Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2008.01.03 11:58:00 -
[131]
Originally by: Baxalusx
Originally by: SirMolle People, people, people, now, dont be upset about the fact that we actually enjoy this, and, that we actually want it.
Just feel content with the fact that YOU are fulfilling our goals.
I'll repeat what i've said elsewhere; Epic wars and fights is what made us, epic wars and fights are not ever going to break us.
after all this time of fighting us, you just still don't get it
which is why our coalition will continue to defecate on your alliance
wow, that some really fancy words you know.
Originally by: omeega PICTURE TOO BIG, KGB INCOMING HAVE FUN.
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Drasked
North Face Force
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Posted - 2008.01.03 12:00:00 -
[132]
Originally by: pershphanie
Originally by: Drasked I think the common misconception in this thread is the difference between "losing space" and "losing"
dude.. didnt you get the memo? bob is waaaay dead.
Ok, so that is what you call "your members being more exited and active as ever before and people that quit comming back for action"
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Vile rat
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 12:02:00 -
[133]
Originally by: thebold
Originally by: Vile rat Oh. Somebody important?
He is going to become the almost perpetual thorn in your side.
May I also take this time to recommend sir that you book a doctors appointment for a cat scan, there might be something wrong inside of your head.
I'm drawing a serious blank here
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Araviel
Gallente Epic.
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Posted - 2008.01.03 12:06:00 -
[134]
Originally by: Fire Hawk
Originally by: Araviel
Originally by: SirMolle People, people, people, now, dont be upset about the fact that we actually enjoy this, and, that we actually want it.
Just feel content with the fact that YOU are fulfilling our goals.
I'll repeat what i've said elsewhere; Epic wars and fights is what made us, epic wars and fights are not ever going to break us.
This Song is for you Molle
For my own curiosity, how much time you waited a SirMolle post to make this lowend "youtube song quote&post" ?
haha, actually i was just lisstening to it while reading the post and thought it was fitting
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Crean NaVar
Cataclysm Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.01.03 12:07:00 -
[135]
Originally by: SirMolle People, people, people, now, dont be upset about the fact that we actually enjoy this, and, that we actually want it.
Just feel content with the fact that YOU are fulfilling our goals.
I'll repeat what i've said elsewhere; Epic wars and fights is what made us, epic wars and fights are not ever going to break us.
All this idle talk of epic wars and fights, seeking a challenge, ... was contradicted by your ingame actions a thousand times. You left this path ages ago. It¦s only convenient that your demise is brought to you with the same means you introduced to this game.
Your primary goal was to win. Whatever it takes. You failed.
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mama guru
Gallente Corp 1 Allstars Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.01.03 12:11:00 -
[136]
Originally by: Sergeant Spot Edited by: Sergeant Spot on 03/01/2008 11:54:53 I remember chatting with other BoB on TS several times over the last couple of years, wondering when the hell some other alliance or group would finally give BoB a really solid challenge. I also remember the conclusion that sooner or latter we would tick off enough folks that simple numbers would do the trick, and I remember folks LOOKING FORWARD TO IT.
It did not take rocket science to see this coming.
As for lost space that has been highly developed, I and a number of other BoB (such as Blacklight among others...) played "Mankind" before Eve. In Mankind, players would spend a year building their fortress systems, all in the certain knowledge that they would be wiped from the game in glorious battle some day.
As in Mankind, an Alliance in Eve can only destroy itself.
I remember in Mankind, my guild's recurring enemy "Mordor" (many Mordor joined BoB in Eve....) acting like BoB, arrogant, claiming ownership of the whole galaxy, attacking were ever they wanted, building the most powerful fortresses the game had seen to that date, and then enventually being wiped completely from the map by a vast array of enemies.
Then Mordor rebuilt, came back, and defeated the enemies it had lost to.
They did it all deliberately.
I was a long running enemy of Mordor in Mankind, fighting them for years. In Eve I teamed up with them immediately, along with a number of my Mankind @alliance guildmates. Great enemies make great Corp mates.
In Short, core BoB member have a LONG history, in many cases PRE-DATING EVE, of LIKING to fight, LIKING a challenge, and are perfectly willing to keep pushing till they get one, even if means laying all their in game assets on the line.
Are there aspects of the last few years I and others would like to change. Yes. But never for an instant think we dont welcome a challenge.
EDIT: Warning: Mankind was great game for its day, but it was also flawed. Also, its creator, VIBES, went bankrupt, and Chinese company purchased the game. Word of advice: dont play it. Its not the game it once was.
You forgot to add "Goons" to your equasion. *signature removed - please email us to find out why (include a link) - Jacques([email protected]) EVE is like the "Fisherman's Friend" of MMOs. If it's too hard, you are too weak. |
I'l Duce
Minmatar Ch'an Zen
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Posted - 2008.01.03 12:12:00 -
[137]
Good fights is all we wants.. BRING IT!!
Damnit, they brought it! Retreat!
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Beyond Horizon
Black Omega Security
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Posted - 2008.01.03 12:13:00 -
[138]
Quote: Originally Posted by Blacklight
If you think having someone like 0utbreak landing on your doorstep is painful, look forward to having a territory-less BNC, RKK, Evol, DICE and Finfleet landing on your doorstep, it'll be like having a high speed gravel enema in space.
Mmm, FinFleet... sooo scawwy... is it the same corp who failed, along with their 2000 alliance buddies, to overthrow 150-200 active RA PvPers? And yes, I was there. -
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mama guru
Gallente Corp 1 Allstars Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.01.03 12:16:00 -
[139]
Originally by: thebold
Originally by: Vile rat Oh. Somebody important?
He is going to become the almost perpetual thorn in your side.
May I also take this time to recommend sir that you book a doctors appointment for a cat scan, there might be something wrong inside of your head.
Stop posting. I wont even say why. *signature removed - please email us to find out why (include a link) - Jacques([email protected]) EVE is like the "Fisherman's Friend" of MMOs. If it's too hard, you are too weak. |
Don Z0LA
Caldari TunDraGon
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Posted - 2008.01.03 12:19:00 -
[140]
Originally by: SirMolle People, people, people, now, dont be upset about the fact that we actually enjoy this, and, that we actually want it.
Just feel content with the fact that YOU are fulfilling our goals.
I'll repeat what i've said elsewhere; Epic wars and fights is what made us, epic wars and fights are not ever going to break us.
most definately! that is the reason for all those metagaming EPIC fights, for EPIC betrayals, EPIC spying, EPIC smacktalking and gloating on forums for killing inustrial alliances, for EPIC blobs in EC, epic t20`s, thats the reason for EPIC bitterness after MC "betrayal" (thou i dont get it why get ****ed off when thats what you actually wanted them to do? or you just like to roleplay?), etc, etc. we all believe you, we really do. at least i do. er wait...
its true that there are players in bob who were made by some epic fights back in the days (m0ovolution particulary, and some beside them), but majority are just wannabes, playing for win at any cost... and i guess this is the way to get their moral back, if you repeat a lie thousand times, it becomes true... when you explain them nicely, that this was the plan all the time and that everything is going as planned they will be happy again, as we can already see by more and more posts they make...
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Dave White
Beagle Corp
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Posted - 2008.01.03 12:21:00 -
[141]
Originally by: Gneeznow Stop posting forever.
Originally by: Illyria Ambri Goonie posts are like coke... sure its entertaining in the beginning.. but the more you get the lower your IQ becomes. |
o2bu4once
Amarr Dark Angel Battalion
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Posted - 2008.01.03 12:21:00 -
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See I think most can understand the concept.Then again I think this is why BoB is at where it's at.You sit here and try to explain too people what you ment by saying what you or what your leaders did.We get the concept, stop being BoB and trying to explain it to us like we can't in some way comprehend or grasp your strategy.
We just don't fully believe you.We rememeber more posts about taking all of EVE and controling our online experiences.
That's fine, you want huge epic battles.You want people coming for you.Great.Though to say you planned all of this is just laughable.
Keep explaining it over and over...maybe those that KNOW and are privy will stop and think "OH NOW I GET IT...."
one thing I think is intresting SUAS(if i'm correct still) is leading alot of what GOONS do.Molle is ofc the figure head in most of what BoB does.SUAS started to challenge Molle's clan/corp big time in HomeWorld.Taking first place on the ladder etc.Molle and crew soon left that game.It's nice to see too people skilled at what they do going at it again.Lets see how this one turns out.
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Egne Ver
Caldari The Reckoning
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Posted - 2008.01.03 12:25:00 -
[143]
Edited by: Egne Ver on 03/01/2008 12:26:07 ItÆs true, it was planed. I know because back in 2005 it was decided that BOB would do anything to win. Knowing that cheating was defiantly rampant and that nothing they ever did would amount to anything, a few agents infiltrated BOB to sow this seed. It worked perfectly, at the 2006 BBQ the plan came to crowning success. When the announcement that in order to win, we must loose became the theme that year we knew it was just a matter of time.
btw, we planed your planning this
Originally by: CCP kieron If you feel we as an entity are corrupt and abhorrent, we bid you good luck in finding a game and company that suits your interests.
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Beyond Horizon
Black Omega Security
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Posted - 2008.01.03 12:27:00 -
[144]
Originally by: Mr Rive GUYS, GUYS DONT YOU GET IT? For BoB, it isnt about holding space, it isnt about winning all the time, its all about having fun, theyve been saying this for years!
this -
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Don Z0LA
Caldari TunDraGon
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Posted - 2008.01.03 12:31:00 -
[145]
Originally by: Dave White
Originally by: Gneeznow Stop posting forever.
slightly offtopic, but can you tell me the name of girl in your sig plz ?
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Dafuzz
Gallente Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 12:34:00 -
[146]
Originally by: Mr Rive GUYS, GUYS DONT YOU GET IT?
I GET IT
Originally by: Mr Rive For BoB, it isnt about holding space,
The reason we hold/held space is to get fights, and oft times we use space to support our infrastructure as resources allow.
Originally by: Mr Rive it isnt about winning all the time,
What winning is for one, isn't necessarily what winning is for another. As long as we get fights, we win. That is what the whole concept is formed up on, and has been the plan all along. It doesn't matter the cost, all isk is generated to gain fights, and to have the best of the best equipment in order to have the edge in combat.
Originally by: Mr Rive its all about having fun, theyve been saying this for years!
Yes, it is all about having fun.
Check back on my postings here on Eve-o. I have fun posting, and I have fun generating resources in game as well. It is what I do.
I love to see the ships/modules I have built blowing things up, and being blown up. I also love selling ships and mods to my enemies, sometimes for a huge profit, sometimes for barely any profit, depending on their strength at the time.
After all, if you share cheap ships with the enemy, they will throw them to your PVP'rs and die in them, creating fun for the people I play with.
-Dfz --
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Cheng Kung
Amarr The Black Dragon Society
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Posted - 2008.01.03 12:36:00 -
[147]
If BoB looses: This was part of the masterplan! We didn't want x anyway!
When Goons loose: We don't care, we only play for lulz!
Both very funny tbh.
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Will Hunter
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 12:43:00 -
[148]
Originally by: SirMolle People, people, people, now, dont be upset about the fact that we actually enjoy this, and, that we actually want it.
Just feel content with the fact that YOU are fulfilling our goals.
I'll repeat what i've said elsewhere; Epic wars and fights is what made us, epic wars and fights are not ever going to break us.
7/10 for the troll
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Dafuzz
Gallente Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 12:44:00 -
[149]
Originally by: Beyond Horizon
Originally by: Dafuzz
Originally by: Mr Rive For BoB, it isnt about holding space,
The reason we hold/held space is to get fights, and oft times we use space to support our infrastructure as resources allow.
We dont hold any space and still Dian makes threads on CAOD on how we spanked you
Your group used to hold space, or tried to.
Did those threads urinate in your cheerios in da mornin as you read them, and cause you to want to come kill us with a foul taste in your mouth?
I suspect yes.
Mission accomplished.
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Jallem Sims
Minmatar Exploring Blind
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Posted - 2008.01.03 12:45:00 -
[150]
Originally by: Egne Ver Edited by: Egne Ver on 03/01/2008 12:26:07 ItÆs true, it was planed. I know because back in 2005 it was decided that BOB would do anything to win. Knowing that cheating was defiantly rampant and that nothing they ever did would amount to anything, a few agents infiltrated BOB to sow this seed. It worked perfectly, at the 2006 BBQ the plan came to crowning success. When the announcement that in order to win, we must loose became the theme that year we knew it was just a matter of time.
btw, we planed your planning this
and the deep undertone is realised.... who sir do you think set in motion your tasks/plans
it was me.. the ultimate planner. Oh, yeah this char was created recently, cause i got bored of the last 30 i built up and sold for isk, to build up my titan force... i have hidden it from you all....
this is my plan. epic
no seriously EPIC!
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Beyond Horizon
Black Omega Security
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Posted - 2008.01.03 12:52:00 -
[151]
Originally by: Dafuzz
Originally by: Beyond Horizon
Originally by: Dafuzz
Originally by: Mr Rive For BoB, it isnt about holding space,
The reason we hold/held space is to get fights, and oft times we use space to support our infrastructure as resources allow.
We dont hold any space and still Dian makes threads on CAOD on how we spanked you
Your group used to hold space, or tried to.
Did those threads urinate in your cheerios in da mornin as you read them, and cause you to want to come kill us with a foul taste in your mouth?
I suspect yes.
Mission accomplished.
What? You remind me South Park characters, saying something absolutely ******** with a smart face and believing it yourself as if it was a revelation from God himself.
And PL never ever ever ever contested space dude, get your facts straight.
I dont care whom to shoot, be it goons or bob, I'm just here for the kills. -
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Callie Nefarious
UA Industry Red Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.03 12:52:00 -
[152]
Originally by: Dafuzz
Your group used to hold space, or tried to.
Did those threads urinate in your cheerios in da mornin as you read them, and cause you to want to come kill us with a foul taste in your mouth?
I suspect yes.
Mission accomplished.
Your speech is clever as always ma darlin. <3 Daffuz sig nerfed by ebil mods |
Nahia Senne
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 12:55:00 -
[153]
This thread still going even after it was debunked by none other than Kugutsumen?
Heres something to refresh peoples memory: Kugutsumen's blog posted in 2006
Quote:
DB Preacher reminded everyone that the original plan was:
1. attack ascn, **** them off, take out capital fleet. 2. attack d2-, **** them off, take out capital fleet. 3. Spend next year in delve with all of eve attacking us.
Funky, isn't it, when Kugutsumen's work gives valid credibility to everything BoB is saying and discredits everything coalition is trying to say.
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Patso Tappaja
Paisti
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Posted - 2008.01.03 12:55:00 -
[154]
Edited by: Patso Tappaja on 03/01/2008 12:55:34 "We did it just for teh lulz and we got over 40k players cry and flame us on the forums as we caused massive havoc ingame." (c) BoB
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Gungankllr
Caldari Salient Uprising
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Posted - 2008.01.03 12:57:00 -
[155]
I'm not sure which is wierder, the fact that BoB made a public 180 or that they actually believe what they're saying now.
Last year it was "We're going to control all of 0.0" or "You dance to our tune" or "We control your game" etc etc
Sorry guys, but you can't seriously think that everyone that reads this forum are that simple minded, do you?
To come on here now (When you've lost all those regions you conquered over the years) and try to say it's all part of a grand plan or strategy is the most ludicrous thing I've ever seen gracing the forums.
BoB started out wanting good fights, then they devolved A LONG TIME AGO into wanting to conquer everything.
BoB has always lived by being on the offensive somewhere, it's always easier to attack than defend. If you did want some epic conflict, you would have wanted it in somebody else's space.
If you're attacking, your broke guys get to mine and rat to replace ships, whereas the defenders can't. You guys have always done that, which is one of the reasons why you were successful in the past.
Anyhow, keep telling yourselves this is what you wanted, while people keep digging up old forum posts you've made pointing out that before the Goons started invading you guys had continually said something completely different.
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Kaaii
Caldari Kaaii-Net Research Labs
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Posted - 2008.01.03 12:58:00 -
[156]
Originally by: Beyond Horizon
What? You remind me South Park characters, saying something absolutely ******** with a smart face and believing it yourself as if it was a revelation from God himself.
MLYAllies
According to Oveur, existing LSAA's already anchored will stay there. kieron Director of Community Relations,
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I'l Duce
Minmatar Ch'an Zen
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Posted - 2008.01.03 12:59:00 -
[157]
Originally by: Nahia Senne This thread still going even after it was debunked by none other than Kugutsumen?
Heres something to refresh peoples memory: Kugutsumen's blog posted in 2006
Quote:
DB Preacher reminded everyone that the original plan was:
1. attack ascn, **** them off, take out capital fleet. 2. attack d2-, **** them off, take out capital fleet. 3. Spend next year in delve with all of eve attacking us.
Funky, isn't it, when Kugutsumen's work gives valid credibility to everything BoB is saying and discredits everything coalition is trying to say.
If you throw around enough mouth trash over the years you'll end up with something to quote for every occasion ^-^
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Mr Rive
Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.01.03 13:01:00 -
[158]
Originally by: Dafuzz
Originally by: Mr Rive GUYS, GUYS DONT YOU GET IT?
I GET IT
Originally by: Mr Rive For BoB, it isnt about holding space,
The reason we hold/held space is to get fights, and oft times we use space to support our infrastructure as resources allow.
Originally by: Mr Rive it isnt about winning all the time,
What winning is for one, isn't necessarily what winning is for another. As long as we get fights, we win. That is what the whole concept is formed up on, and has been the plan all along. It doesn't matter the cost, all isk is generated to gain fights, and to have the best of the best equipment in order to have the edge in combat.
Originally by: Mr Rive its all about having fun, theyve been saying this for years!
Yes, it is all about having fun.
Check back on my postings here on Eve-o. I have fun posting, and I have fun generating resources in game as well. It is what I do.
I love to see the ships/modules I have built blowing things up, and being blown up. I also love selling ships and mods to my enemies, sometimes for a huge profit, sometimes for barely any profit, depending on their strength at the time.
After all, if you share cheap ships with the enemy, they will throw them to your PVP'rs and die in them, creating fun for the people I play with.
-Dfz
Oh yeah, and i agree with you, but this is not the public image that boB has been putting out until now, before, it was all about WORLD DOMINATION and all that, so to try and exuse yourself now by saying that we only wanted the space to lose it in a glorius way isnt going to wash with many people, including me.
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Dave White
Beagle Corp
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Posted - 2008.01.03 13:02:00 -
[159]
Originally by: Don Z0LA
Originally by: Dave White
Originally by: Gneeznow Stop posting forever.
slightly offtopic, but can you tell me the name of girl in your sig plz ?
Doutzen Kroes a Dutch model.
Originally by: Illyria Ambri Goonie posts are like coke... sure its entertaining in the beginning.. but the more you get the lower your IQ becomes. |
Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.01.03 13:02:00 -
[160]
Faithless: 'Misinformation is a weapon of mass destruction'
Originally by: ISD Cortes You're at liberty to use the rolling sig you had, as long as there's no chimeras covering the nether regions of voluptuous females. |
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Magorath
KR0M The Red Skull
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Posted - 2008.01.03 13:05:00 -
[161]
Dance puppets dance. Here comes the puppet master.
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Zenst
Gallente Omniscient Order
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Posted - 2008.01.03 13:06:00 -
[162]
Originally by: Hubris Our BoB spy just got this crude recording of Blacklight's now famous "We planned it all" speech.
Its somewhat disturbing as to why he would use such a horrible fake accent that seems to swing from middle eastern to chinese in one sentence. Oh well at least we have it for the historical records.
video link "We planned it all"
transcript
<SNIP>
Worst Blacklight impersonation EVER, Duffus has farted better ones on TS in the past - fact.
Indeed if I had as much spare time as you clearly do then I'd be busy doing my homework instead.
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Faithless F
Black Omega Security
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Posted - 2008.01.03 13:06:00 -
[163]
Originally by: Sokratesz Faithless: 'Misinformation is a weapon of mass destruction'
I hear this Faithless guy is very smart.
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Baxalusx
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 13:24:00 -
[164]
Edited by: Baxalusx on 03/01/2008 13:24:44
Originally by: Hast
Originally by: Baxalusx
Originally by: SirMolle People, people, people, now, dont be upset about the fact that we actually enjoy this, and, that we actually want it.
Just feel content with the fact that YOU are fulfilling our goals.
I'll repeat what i've said elsewhere; Epic wars and fights is what made us, epic wars and fights are not ever going to break us.
after all this time of fighting us, you just still don't get it
which is why our coalition will continue to defecate on your alliance
wow, that some really fancy words you know.
i never get to make any cool posts because if i back my posts up mittens will be like ARGH ICORION WHY ARE YOU LEAKING **** TO EVEO X(
you'd be surprised at some of the stuff i've written in the past year though, you've probably read a bunch of it! ---------
~THE ARTIST FORMERLY KNOWN AS ICORION~ |
Nahia Senne
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 13:26:00 -
[165]
Originally by: NO BRAKES
Originally by: Nahia Senne
And what do the peasants do? They try to discredit his life's work by parroting mindless coalition propaganda. To denounce your champion like this, even after he sacrificed his accounts to the cause, this is just sad.
Hey, I hear your alliance leader can divulge his personal details on the internet on command, why don't you go ask him about it.
Of course BoB knows the personal details of their enemies. Have you forgotten already that we are omnipotent? I must say, goons are letting in far too many terrible posters these days.
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Fire Hawk
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 13:26:00 -
[166]
Originally by: Tholarim Edited by: Tholarim on 03/01/2008 13:23:36
Originally by: Mochalatte So a guy hacks into your forums.You go to lengths to get him banned and try to counter hack him.Now this is the guy your falling back on a gospel. WOW!!!!The more bob types the sadder it is.
I can show you forum screenies of bob forums from last year about leadership implementing the pendulum. Would you believe us when we said our intent was to get every1 to attack us? I doubt it. That's why the best proof comes from the source you all believe to be the holy grail.
Even if God himself tell them the truth they will not beleive it.
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Cosmic Blunder
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Posted - 2008.01.03 13:27:00 -
[167]
*snip* Posting with an unidentified character and characters in NPC corporations in this forum is prohibited. If you wish to participate in the discussions here, be sure to have your corporation and or alliance status ticked in your forum settings. - Navigator ([email protected]) |
Dafuzz
Gallente Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 13:27:00 -
[168]
Originally by: Tholarim
Originally by: Mochalatte So a guy hacks into your forums.You go to lengths to get him banned and try to counter hack him.Now this is the guy your falling back on a gospel. WOW!!!!The more bob types the sadder it is.
I can show you forum screenies of bob forums from last year about leadership implementing the pendulum. Would you believe us when we said our intent was to get every1 to attack us? I doubt it. That's why the best proof comes from the source you all believe to be the holy grail.
IIRC, Mochalatte was an old skool FA hatemonger alt/fanboi, no sense replying to he/she/it tbh
It is already well established that the plan we made is out in the open. Now people aren't happy with the fact that we owned them when we gave them regions and a roadmap to delve, and it is showing by the tears of disbelief right here in this thread.
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Taurequis
Waylander 01
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Posted - 2008.01.03 13:28:00 -
[169]
Originally by: Dafuzz
Said it before, will say again. BoB hasn't defended before. It is something new. It sucks choosing a region somewhere, invading, hoping that people will fight us. Instead we sit for hours/days whilst people bore us as we take their space.
THEN, we fall back, (with a creative evac picture posted by a goon that made our point better than we could with our video even) created a vacuum, and let the real pubbies come and have the regions gratis without us defending, giving away stepping stones to our doorstep. NEXT, we plant a trail of breadcrumbs a mile wide all leading to Delve, so those who simply don't appear to get it will come too.
End result? Fights. Defense.
Lo,
The issue i see with the line you are promoting here is that you roped in a bunch of allies/pets/meatsheilds/whatever alliances like Fix, Rise, Xelas etc, in many cases made them pay in isk, and with the eventual distruction of their playing groups, to try and hold regions you never had any intention of actually defending.
Doesnt make you sound like a bunch of perticularly good allies does it? especially after we've seen all those "pep talk" logs from Bob directors etc...
"Sorry for all your efforts defending those regions friends, the actual plan was just not to bother and hole up in Delve, we just forgot to fill you in."
Best Regards,
Taur
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Mochalatte
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.01.03 13:30:00 -
[170]
Originally by: Tholarim Edited by: Tholarim on 03/01/2008 13:23:36
Originally by: Mochalatte So a guy hacks into your forums.You go to lengths to get him banned and try to counter hack him.Now this is the guy your falling back on a gospel. WOW!!!!The more bob types the sadder it is.
I can show you forum screenies of bob forums from last year about leadership implementing the pendulum. Would you believe us when we said our intent was to get every1 to attack us? I doubt it. That's why the best proof comes from the source you all believe to be the holy grail.
Keep repeating the the same stuff it will become true right?You didn't answer one of my questions.
Your now using a guy that you so badly detested.So badly tryed to get back as, as your proof.Make sense?However you wnt to try and slice it.
Do people need to pull countless posts on your forums and these about you taking over everything in game?About never letting goons become anything?
I can believe a person at face value9 no holy grail needed), but I also know more that the average bear. Why defend yourself over and over if you know the truth.It almost seems m8 that your trying to convince yourself.
Quote: metal dude [052506] You people canÆt dictate to others not to have an opinion on public topics.
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NO BRAKES
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 13:31:00 -
[171]
I guess we can just cherry pick through things that were posted a significant time in the past to prove our points and goals then.
Originally by: Sir Molle This is [sic] goodbye.
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Mochalatte
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.01.03 13:31:00 -
[172]
Originally by: Dafuzz
Originally by: Tholarim
Originally by: Mochalatte So a guy hacks into your forums.You go to lengths to get him banned and try to counter hack him.Now this is the guy your falling back on a gospel. WOW!!!!The more bob types the sadder it is.
I can show you forum screenies of bob forums from last year about leadership implementing the pendulum. Would you believe us when we said our intent was to get every1 to attack us? I doubt it. That's why the best proof comes from the source you all believe to be the holy grail.
IIRC, Mochalatte was an old skool FA hatemonger alt/fanboi, no sense replying to he/she/it tbh
It is already well established that the plan we made is out in the open. Now people aren't happy with the fact that we owned them when we gave them regions and a roadmap to delve, and it is showing by the tears of disbelief right here in this thread.
Calm down, why don't you let goonies become something in game about it?
Quote: metal dude [052506] You people canÆt dictate to others not to have an opinion on public topics.
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NO BRAKES
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 13:32:00 -
[173]
Ohh hey I guess your acceptance of Kugu's blog validates goon threadnaught attempts as well amirite?
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Baxalusx
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 13:32:00 -
[174]
Originally by: Dafuzz
Originally by: Tholarim
Originally by: Mochalatte So a guy hacks into your forums.You go to lengths to get him banned and try to counter hack him.Now this is the guy your falling back on a gospel. WOW!!!!The more bob types the sadder it is.
I can show you forum screenies of bob forums from last year about leadership implementing the pendulum. Would you believe us when we said our intent was to get every1 to attack us? I doubt it. That's why the best proof comes from the source you all believe to be the holy grail.
IIRC, Mochalatte was an old skool FA hatemonger alt/fanboi, no sense replying to he/she/it tbh
It is already well established that the plan we made is out in the open. Now people aren't happy with the fact that we owned them when we gave them regions and a roadmap to delve, and it is showing by the tears of disbelief right here in this thread.
13:27:00, 03/01/2008: BoB's inability to rationalize imminent defeat with self-image reaches critical mass. Severe psychosis sets in. ---------
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Neoromi
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Posted - 2008.01.03 13:33:00 -
[175]
LOL at the goonies desperatly trying to spin this, thanks im falling over from laughing.
signature removed - please email us to find out why (include a link to the image URL) - Jacques([email protected]) |
Fire Hawk
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 13:33:00 -
[176]
Originally by: Mochalatte
Originally by: Tholarim Edited by: Tholarim on 03/01/2008 13:23:36
Originally by: Mochalatte So a guy hacks into your forums.You go to lengths to get him banned and try to counter hack him.Now this is the guy your falling back on a gospel. WOW!!!!The more bob types the sadder it is.
I can show you forum screenies of bob forums from last year about leadership implementing the pendulum. Would you believe us when we said our intent was to get every1 to attack us? I doubt it. That's why the best proof comes from the source you all believe to be the holy grail.
Keep repeating the the same stuff it will become true right?You didn't answer one of my questions.
Your now using a guy that you so badly detested.So badly tryed to get back as, as your proof.Make sense?However you wnt to try and slice it.
Do people need to pull countless posts on your forums and these about you taking over everything in game?About never letting goons become anything?
I can believe a person at face value9 no holy grail needed), but I also know more that the average bear. Why defend yourself over and over if you know the truth.It almost seems m8 that your trying to convince yourself.
Exactly because he seemed to have more credibility than bob in that time and ironicaly gives full credibility to what we say today.
You understood ? "ironic", you know ... ?
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Nahia Senne
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 13:35:00 -
[177]
Originally by: Mochalatte Calm down, why don't you let goonies become something in game about it?
Hello to you, my throughly disgruntled and defeated BoB enemy of old. I savor your bitterness and pain. Come and do something about it.
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Fire Hawk
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 13:35:00 -
[178]
Originally by: NO BRAKES Ohh hey I guess your acceptance of Kugu's blog validates goon threadnaught attempts as well amirite?
Your repeat mode has definitly no brakes my friend.
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bitters much
Nekkid Inc.
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Posted - 2008.01.03 13:35:00 -
[179]
If you dig long enough in the forums you maybe will also find a BOB member stating somewhere that you love mining Veld in empire! I suggest you start your search for that now to be prepaired when your "current plan" comes reality
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Hast
Applied Eugenics Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2008.01.03 13:36:00 -
[180]
Originally by: Baxalusx Edited by: Baxalusx on 03/01/2008 13:24:44
Originally by: Hast
Originally by: Baxalusx
Originally by: SirMolle People, people, people, now, dont be upset about the fact that we actually enjoy this, and, that we actually want it.
Just feel content with the fact that YOU are fulfilling our goals.
I'll repeat what i've said elsewhere; Epic wars and fights is what made us, epic wars and fights are not ever going to break us.
after all this time of fighting us, you just still don't get it
which is why our coalition will continue to defecate on your alliance
wow, that some really fancy words you know.
i never get to make any cool posts because if i back my posts up mittens will be like ARGH ICORION WHY ARE YOU LEAKING **** TO EVEO X(
you'd be surprised at some of the stuff i've written in the past year though, you've probably read a bunch of it!
OMAGAWD YOU JUST LEAKED YOUR NAME TO CAOD.
mittens will have you for that :[
Originally by: omeega PICTURE TOO BIG, KGB INCOMING HAVE FUN.
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Jallem Sims
Minmatar Exploring Blind
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Posted - 2008.01.03 13:37:00 -
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seriously... its my plan of plans....
but i like the bob show of hands...
anyway.... who are these 90% ganging up on bob? Jeese, imagine the Lag if everyone did turn up... just how bob like it i guess.
Just a reminder of the Fat/25s/49- situation.... i know, part of the plan! All that lag, just to get everyone attacking you right?
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Baxalusx
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 13:38:00 -
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Originally by: Hast
Originally by: Baxalusx Edited by: Baxalusx on 03/01/2008 13:24:44
Originally by: Hast
Originally by: Baxalusx
Originally by: SirMolle People, people, people, now, dont be upset about the fact that we actually enjoy this, and, that we actually want it.
Just feel content with the fact that YOU are fulfilling our goals.
I'll repeat what i've said elsewhere; Epic wars and fights is what made us, epic wars and fights are not ever going to break us.
after all this time of fighting us, you just still don't get it
which is why our coalition will continue to defecate on your alliance
wow, that some really fancy words you know.
i never get to make any cool posts because if i back my posts up mittens will be like ARGH ICORION WHY ARE YOU LEAKING **** TO EVEO X(
you'd be surprised at some of the stuff i've written in the past year though, you've probably read a bunch of it!
OMAGAWD YOU JUST LEAKED YOUR NAME TO CAOD.
mittens will have you for that :[
maybe i lied
what now Hast ---------
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NO BRAKES
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 13:39:00 -
[183]
Originally by: Fire Hawk
Originally by: NO BRAKES Ohh hey I guess your acceptance of Kugu's blog validates goon threadnaught attempts as well amirite?
Your repeat mode has definitly no brakes my friend.
I could simply change my responses when things don't go the way I planned them to, then act like that was what I wanted to do/ say the whole time. Let me know how that works out for you.
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Jonny JoJo
Amarr The Imperial Guards Darkness Rising Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.03 13:39:00 -
[184]
So let me understand this
Bob make a plan on their forums that they were going to annoy everyone in eve, and get them to invade delve so they could fight there.
Coalation Forum hacker reveals this when this bob plan started. Yet coalaiton relise that they got played for fools and now deny that this forum hacker ....em.... revealed this plan?
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Posted - 2008.01.03 13:40:00 -
[185]
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General Tsao
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 13:41:00 -
[186]
Originally by: Jonny JoJo So let me understand this
Bob make a plan on their forums that they were going to annoy everyone in eve, and get them to invade delve so they could fight there.
Coalation Forum hacker reveals this when this bob plan started. Yet coalaiton relise that they got played for fools and now deny that this forum hacker ....em.... revealed this plan?
If taking multiple regions is getting played for a fool then call me what you like.
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Nahia Senne
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 13:41:00 -
[187]
Edited by: Nahia Senne on 03/01/2008 13:42:11
Originally by: bitters much If you dig long enough in the forums you maybe will also find a BOB member stating somewhere that you love mining Veld in empire! I suggest you start your search for that now to be prepaired when your "current plan" comes reality
Keywords are: BoB leadership, Master Plan, 2006, Ratified by Molle, Kug******, Hacked forums
For those who do not know Kug******. He used to be coalition champion. But now that his work does not suit coalition any more, they denounced him and tarnish his name with alts.
EDIT: Opps, i guess mods have banned the name.
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Mochalatte
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.01.03 13:41:00 -
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So this is also the official " lulz all our old allies and installed tenants/pets were mere fodder for our major plan" post?
Throwing a fit about MC calling them back stabbers.While for years saying they were true mercs.Then saying "omg how could you do this!!!" ironic it is...
WOW just keeps getting better.
Quote: metal dude [052506] You people canÆt dictate to others not to have an opinion on public topics.
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Jonny JoJo
Amarr The Imperial Guards Darkness Rising Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.03 13:42:00 -
[189]
Edited by: Jonny JoJo on 03/01/2008 13:43:30 Edited by: Jonny JoJo on 03/01/2008 13:43:02
Originally by: bitters much If you dig long enough in the forums you maybe will also find a BOB member stating somewhere that you love mining Veld in empire! I suggest you start your search for that now to be prepaired when your "current plan" comes reality
i think the issue here is that a bob leader told bob the plan, and this was revealed by the person whoes name cannot be said here. I dont see any bob leader post telling them to mine veldspar in empire.
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Dafuzz
Gallente Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 13:44:00 -
[190]
Originally by: Jonny JoJo So let me understand this
Bob make a plan on their forums that they were going to annoy everyone in eve, and get them to invade delve so they could fight there.
Coalation Forum hacker reveals this when this bob plan started. Yet coalaiton relise that they got played for fools and now deny that this forum hacker ....em.... revealed this plan?
That about sums it up.
There is ALOT more to the story, as we didn't think it would come quite this early, as different powers came into being during the time that were unforeseen, as well as other powerful alliances folding up, but basically, that is what happened.
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NATMav
F.R.E.E. Explorer Atrum Tempestas Foedus
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Posted - 2008.01.03 13:44:00 -
[191]
Originally by: SirMolle People, people, people, now, dont be upset about the fact that we actually enjoy this, and, that we actually want it.
Just feel content with the fact that YOU are fulfilling our goals.
I'll repeat what i've said elsewhere; Epic wars and fights is what made us, epic wars and fights are not ever going to break us.
Madeye alt spotted.
Regardless of BoB's "master plan" (the one that changes more often than the tides), one thing is for certain, they didn't plan to lose.
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NO BRAKES
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 13:44:00 -
[192]
Hey guys check out the hot new threads the emperor is wearing!
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Gnulpie
Minmatar Miner Tech
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Posted - 2008.01.03 13:45:00 -
[193]
The speech sounds as if they already lost Delve.
The first step towards defeat is to accept defeat as a realistic outcome. It is all a matter of mind!
When RA was down to one system I doubt you would have heared such a speak (in russian of course). Never give up. Don't accept defeat. Be master of your own fate.
If you accept being pushed around by other forces, if you accept and plan how things will be after your defeat, then you will be certainly defeated.
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Baxalusx
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 13:47:00 -
[194]
nobody is disputing that you did indeed plan this, we're saying that you never followed this plan until you started losing everything you own, and then you really started beating that drum hard all at once
so you see nobody is buying it because there's nothing to support it other than "we said something vaguely similar ages ago with few details, and the few details that were there ended up not matching reality"
is that simple enough or do we have to break down even further why bob posters are basically clinically delusional at this point? ---------
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Cvuos
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 13:48:00 -
[195]
I don't know why so many goons are getting so upset by this. It's the same old switcharoo that any alliance does when the going gets tough: Redefine the goals to make it look like you are winning. Blacklight got all when BoB started losing and didn't read the forums enough to see all the pets post exactly the same and of course all the predictions. (I personally called the "planned it all" thing when we were cleaning up 66-.)
Especially LV said it and that's half of BoB now.
- This is what we really want - All those regions are just a pain - When we are unleashed for pos warfare we will roam blabla freedom blah
Then if BoB beats us back to Scalding Pass, they'll be all "no we wanted those regions all the time, we just had to make you stretch your supply lines and make you confused and sun tzu and strategy". Then we beat them back to Delve again and it's "haha j/k totally trolled you didn't wanted nothing at all, gonna camps lowsec now say good bye to your trade routes".
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Nahia Senne
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 13:48:00 -
[196]
Originally by: Gnulpie The speech sounds as if they already lost Delve.
The first step towards defeat is to accept defeat as a realistic outcome. It is all a matter of mind!
When RA was down to one system I doubt you would have heared such a speak (in russian of course). Never give up. Don't accept defeat. Be master of your own fate.
If you accept being pushed around by other forces, if you accept and plan how things will be after your defeat, then you will be certainly defeated.
What leaked from RA forums at the time is much much too horrible to mention here. Coalition of the time was gloating so much, CAOD was starting to *****.
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Dafuzz
Gallente Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 13:48:00 -
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Originally by: NATMav Regardless of BoB's "master plan" (the one that changes more often than the tides), one thing is for certain, they didn't plan to lose.
Ahoy Nat, you are correct. We don't plan on losing anything really.
BoB has and always will be a nomadic alliance by nature.
It just so happens, it is better to build a fortress to get epic fights in one location, than it is to be spread around like a cold in a subway station to maybe find a fight.
Watch my constellation over the next few weeks in Delve. You know which one it is, I know ya do :)
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Baxalusx
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 13:48:00 -
[198]
it's like watching people claim nostradamus predicted the atomic bomb
stop it i cant take it anymore its so dumb ---------
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Mochalatte
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.01.03 13:53:00 -
[199]
they planned it all though.
They planned that to say goons would never rebuild.Just to let them and let them be the voice of the enemy at their door step. all planned.
Titan loss planned.Was to get you guys hungry for more.Letting the coalition kick out all their pets doing very little.All in "the plan" ofc it is.
lol
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Dafuzz
Gallente Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 13:54:00 -
[200]
Originally by: Baxalusx it's like watching people claim nostradamus predicted the atomic bomb
stop it i cant take it anymore its so dumb
A goon defeated at his own forum game.
Can't wait for the US people to get offa work to see this.
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GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 13:54:00 -
[201]
Originally by: Dafuzz
BoB has and always will be a nomadic alliance by nature.
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Dafuzz
Gallente Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 13:55:00 -
[202]
Originally by: Mochalatte they planned it all though.
They planned that to say goons would never rebuild.Just to let them and let them be the voice of the enemy at their door step. all planned.
Titan loss planned.Was to get you guys hungry for more.Letting the coalition kick out all their pets doing very little.All in "the plan" ofc it is.
lol
Titan loss wasn't planned, it was a pain in the rear, dear.
But then again, Shrike ain't known for keeping ships or pods long at all.
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Moon Kitten
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 13:57:00 -
[203]
Edited by: Moon Kitten on 03/01/2008 13:59:09 It's true that BoB move around a lot. I see them a lot in the north, east and south not to mention the drone regions and empire.
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YourShade
Boris Technica
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Posted - 2008.01.03 13:58:00 -
[204]
Edited by: YourShade on 03/01/2008 13:57:58
Originally by: NATMav
Regardless of BoB's "master plan" (the one that changes more often than the tides), one thing is for certain, they didn't plan to lose.
What you mean by "lose"?
"Win" would be control all the 0.0, fuel poses all the day, mine and rat to get a more fatty wallet when you already have a fatty one and have no more ennemies to fight? no more challenge?
Or "Win" would maybe be fight more, more BS killed on KB every day, be the ennemy of 80% of eve player, got so many small angry goonies on CAOD?
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Naruto Hunter
Maza Nostra oooh Shiny
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Posted - 2008.01.03 13:58:00 -
[205]
Quote: Originally Posted by Blacklight If you think having someone like 0utbreak landing on your doorstep is painful, look forward to having a territory-less BNC, RKK, Evol, DICE and Finfleet landing on your doorstep, it'll be like having a high speed gravel enema in space.
With all due respect to the rest Corporations in BoB, I loled at the prospect of a territory-less Finfleet landing on my doorstep.
WTB new pair of underwear.
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Dafuzz
Gallente Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 13:59:00 -
[206]
Originally by: Moon Kitten It's true that BoB move around a lot. I see them a lot in the north, west and south not to mention the drone regions and empire.
Yea, you guys chase us everywhere, we skeered!
STALKERS
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Moon Kitten
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 14:00:00 -
[207]
Originally by: Dafuzz
Originally by: Moon Kitten It's true that BoB move around a lot. I see them a lot in the north, west and south not to mention the drone regions and empire.
Yea, you guys chase us everywhere, we skeered!
STALKERS
It's hard to stalk bob though, since they are so nomadic.
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Dafuzz
Gallente Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 14:01:00 -
[208]
Originally by: Moon Kitten It's hard to stalk bob though, since they are so nomadic.
Well, with MetaMittens, you guys are good like that
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Chowdown
Gallente Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 14:01:00 -
[209]
Originally by: Cvuos Especially LV said it and that's half of BoB now.
You guys keep coming out with this fact, but the reality is LV make up no where near half of BoB. There is a section of former LV players within BoB but you are drastically overstating the figure, I would say that at any given time a BoB gang of 100 will have no more than 15 former LV players. Please feel free to prove me wrong
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Nahia Senne
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 14:01:00 -
[210]
Originally by: Baxalusx it's like watching people claim nostradamus predicted the atomic bomb
stop it i cant take it anymore its so dumb
And I must admit, we were obviously off by almost a year. All this was supposed to be happening much earlier. Nobody really expected that coalition would fail so horribly at F-T. Let alone that half of the powerblocks would just roll under the weight.
But lucky for us, what was left of the coalition managed to regroup. Then they managed to stop losing space by somehow cramming 500 people into one system. Then they managed keep giving us epic fights for almost 1 year. And now, our killboards are soooo overflowing it makes me feel soooo hot. We are averaging 3 fleet battles per day
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Baxalusx
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 14:03:00 -
[211]
Edited by: Baxalusx on 03/01/2008 14:03:02
Originally by: Dafuzz
Originally by: Baxalusx it's like watching people claim nostradamus predicted the atomic bomb
stop it i cant take it anymore its so dumb
A goon defeated at his own forum game.
Can't wait for the US people to get offa work to see this.
i figured i'd turn the tables on you on the forums as well
fair's fair; we have the game now, you get the forums! ---------
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bitters much
Nekkid Inc.
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Posted - 2008.01.03 14:03:00 -
[212]
Originally by: Chowdown
Originally by: Cvuos Especially LV said it and that's half of BoB now.
You guys keep coming out with this fact, but the reality is LV make up no where near half of BoB. There is a section of former LV players within BoB but you are drastically overstating the figure, I would say that at any given time a BoB gang of 100 will have no more than 15 former LV players. Please feel free to prove me wrong
Maybe because they are too busy gettin their stuff to safe space ?
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NO BRAKES
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 14:04:00 -
[213]
Originally by: Chowdown
Originally by: Cvuos Especially LV said it and that's half of BoB now.
You guys keep coming out with this fact, but the reality is LV make up no where near half of BoB. There is a section of former LV players within BoB but you are drastically overstating the figure, I would say that at any given time a BoB gang of 100 will have no more than 15 former LV players. Please feel free to prove me wrong
You're right. The other 30 LV that were supposed to be in the gang logged out because they weren't getting the cheap ganks they wanted.
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Dafuzz
Gallente Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 14:05:00 -
[214]
Originally by: Baxalusx
Originally by: Dafuzz
Originally by: Baxalusx it's like watching people claim nostradamus predicted the atomic bomb
stop it i cant take it anymore its so dumb
A goon defeated at his own forum game.
Can't wait for the US people to get offa work to see this.
i figured i'd turn the tables on you on the forums as well
fair's fair; we have the game now, you get the forums!
I am such a loser, should have seen your wisdom.
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Baxalusx
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 14:05:00 -
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Edited by: Baxalusx on 03/01/2008 14:05:29
Originally by: Nahia Senne
Originally by: Baxalusx it's like watching people claim nostradamus predicted the atomic bomb
stop it i cant take it anymore its so dumb
And I must admit, we were obviously off by almost a year. All this was supposed to be happening much earlier. Nobody really expected that coalition would fail so horribly at F-T. Let alone that half of the powerblocks would just roll under the weight.
But lucky for us, what was left of the coalition managed to regroup. Then they managed to stop losing space by somehow cramming 500 people into one system. Then they managed keep giving us epic fights for almost 1 year. And now, our killboards are soooo overflowing it makes me feel soooo hot. We are averaging 3 fleet battles per day
dont stop im so close ---------
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Nahia Senne
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 14:09:00 -
[216]
Originally by: Baxalusx dont stop im so close
Shooting large POS with battleships simply does not do it for me
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Baxalusx
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 14:09:00 -
[217]
Originally by: Nahia Senne
Originally by: Baxalusx dont stop im so close
Shooting large POS with battleships simply does not do it for me
OH GOD YES ---------
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Chowdown
Gallente Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 14:10:00 -
[218]
Edited by: Chowdown on 03/01/2008 14:10:05
Originally by: bitters much
Originally by: Chowdown
Originally by: Cvuos Especially LV said it and that's half of BoB now.
What do you mean its all still in Tenerifis isn't it amirite etc
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Callie Nefarious
UA Industry Red Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.03 14:13:00 -
[219]
Chill down guys. Then main reason why bob is fallin is well known. Dont not attack ra with bandwagon, that bandwagon will fall soon, no matter how many years/months/days it will take.. Russians are cursed, that's ****in reason
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GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 14:17:00 -
[220]
Originally by: Chowdown
Originally by: Cvuos Especially LV said it and that's half of BoB now.
What do you mean its all still in Tenerifis isn't it amirite etc
Guess you missed the 06 BBQ eh?
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Gungankllr
Caldari Salient Uprising
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Posted - 2008.01.03 14:18:00 -
[221]
Molle losing his Titan was done on purpose to draw you into a false sense of success, and to get you to attack Delve en masse.
All too easy.
-dbp
Seriously, how can you guys type this crap out and not feel completely ******** when you read it?
And before you ask me the same question (because I know somebody will respond with some little gem like that) I've always tried to be as honest about things and called them like I see them.
I never painted you BoB guys in a ******** light, but jeesus, you can't seriously think that anybody is going to buy the whole "We did this all on purpose" angle?
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Taurequis
Waylander 01
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Posted - 2008.01.03 14:20:00 -
[222]
Originally by: Callie Nefarious Chill down guys. Then main reason why bob is fallin is well known. Dont not attack ra with bandwagon, that bandwagon will fall soon, no matter how many years/months/days it will take.. Russians are cursed, that's ****in reason
"CHOW, WE ARE STEALIN UR TARGETS" Dafuzz come to me, little bastard Hey darlin, do you know when ccp will introduce that station whorin feature? I want to live with ya on stations?
i hear that ccp are considering adding optional eyepatches and parrots to the models in ambulation especially for bob.
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Nahia Senne
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 14:21:00 -
[223]
Originally by: Callie Nefarious Chill down guys. Then main reason why bob is fallin is well known. Dont not attack ra with bandwagon, that bandwagon will fall soon, no matter how many years/months/days it will take.. Russians are cursed, that's ****in reason
BoB and FinFleet were no bandwagon. RA drowning themselves in coalition mega blobs, riddled with BoB spy's, was entertaining to see.
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Tholarim
Amarr Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 14:28:00 -
[224]
Originally by: Gungankllr Molle losing his Titan was done on purpose to draw you into a false sense of success, and to get you to attack Delve en masse.
All too easy.
-dbp
Seriously, how can you guys type this crap out and not feel completely Removed when you read it?
And before you ask me the same question (because I know somebody will respond with some little gem like that) I've always tried to be as honest about things and called them like I see them.
I never painted you BoB guys in a Removed light, but jeesus, you can't seriously think that anybody is going to buy the whole "We did this all on purpose" angle?
Yes we planned every event in the last 1,5 years down to the type of breakfast we have in the morning. In my case, i had to eat cooked potatoes this morning. DAMN YOU CORANOR. *snip* Signature unsuitable for forums. Please refrain from refering to ongoing investigations in your signature - Valorem |
Twoside
Gallente Seven. Enuma Elish.
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Posted - 2008.01.03 14:32:00 -
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Edited by: Twoside on 03/01/2008 14:32:19
Originally by: Nahia Senne Nobody really expected that coalition would fail so horribly at F-T. (...) But lucky for us, what was left of the coalition managed to regroup. Then they managed to stop losing space by somehow cramming 500 people into one system.
Cut down on sniffing glue, your logic is failing ;)
(or: it's l33t when you fill f-t up to almost the arbitrary system cap, but it's w34k when others do it?)
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Dafuzz
Gallente Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 14:33:00 -
[226]
Originally by: Tholarim Yes we planned every event in the last 1,5 years down to the type of breakfast we have in the morning. In my case, i had to eat cooked potatoes this morning. DAMN YOU CORANOR.
No no no no no no NO.
You forgot the onions and ketchup. Shame on you, your orders were updated 2 years ago.
@Gungan, dude...I perceive you as an honorable player. At least think about the "we did it on purpose angle" and realize the import of such actions to a group of PVP'rs and keeping them happy.
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Martinez
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 14:33:00 -
[227]
Originally by: Chowdown
Originally by: Cvuos Especially LV said it and that's half of BoB now.
You guys keep coming out with this fact, but the reality is LV make up no where near half of BoB. There is a section of former LV players within BoB but you are drastically overstating the figure, I would say that at any given time a BoB gang of 100 will have no more than 15 former LV players. Please feel free to prove me wrong
that is just goon running off at the mouth with their talking points. yes we know bob is dead, there are no real bob members left. anyone that joined after 2005 is a worthless wannabe. yeah yeah yeah we have heard it. Oddly though 4 out of 5 fights we loot the field no matter what the odds against us are. Truth hurts.
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Mr Rive
Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.01.03 14:33:00 -
[228]
Originally by: Tholarim
Originally by: Gungankllr DAMN YOU CORANOR.
This, a million times
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Fire Hawk
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 14:34:00 -
[229]
Originally by: Nahia Senne
Originally by: Baxalusx it's like watching people claim nostradamus predicted the atomic bomb
stop it i cant take it anymore its so dumb
And I must admit, we were obviously off by almost a year. All this was supposed to be happening much earlier. Nobody really expected that coalition would fail so horribly at F-T. Let alone that half of the powerblocks would just roll under the weight.
But lucky for us, what was left of the coalition managed to regroup. Then they managed to stop losing space by somehow cramming 500 people into one system. Then they managed keep giving us epic fights for almost 1 year. And now, our killboards are soooo overflowing it makes me feel soooo hot. We are averaging 3 fleet battles per day
Eve is a beautifull game, isnt-it ?
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GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 14:42:00 -
[230]
Edited by: NO BRAKES on 03/01/2008 14:43:43
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Vile rat
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 14:47:00 -
[231]
This is the most awesome combination of "Tha PuPPeTmaStEr!" and "We didn't want those regions anyways" I've ever seen. I'm really enjoying every bit of this thread.
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Nahia Senne
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 14:48:00 -
[232]
Originally by: Twoside Edited by: Twoside on 03/01/2008 14:32:19
Originally by: Nahia Senne Nobody really expected that coalition would fail so horribly at F-T. (...) But lucky for us, what was left of the coalition managed to regroup. Then they managed to stop losing space by somehow cramming 500 people into one system.
Cut down on sniffing glue, your logic is failing ;)
(or: it's l33t when you fill f-t up to almost the arbitrary system cap, but it's w34k when others do it?)
edit: was system cap
Thats fiction, heres the truth: System was never even close to 700, if it was even capped at all. Most coalition capitals just refused to jump in. They lied about their inability to jump in the same way D2 lied about the "missing" titan BPO, what started the entire mess.
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Myz Toyou
Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.01.03 14:49:00 -
[233]
Edited by: Myz Toyou on 03/01/2008 14:53:40 Latest News from NOL -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Your signature image exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected])
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NO BRAKES
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 14:49:00 -
[234]
Originally by: Nahia Senne
Originally by: Twoside Edited by: Twoside on 03/01/2008 14:32:19
Originally by: Nahia Senne Nobody really expected that coalition would fail so horribly at F-T. (...) But lucky for us, what was left of the coalition managed to regroup. Then they managed to stop losing space by somehow cramming 500 people into one system.
Cut down on sniffing glue, your logic is failing ;)
(or: it's l33t when you fill f-t up to almost the arbitrary system cap, but it's w34k when others do it?)
edit: was system cap
Thats fiction, heres the truth: System was never even close to 700, if it was even capped at all. Most coalition capitals just refused to jump in. They lied about their inability to jump in the same way D2 lied about the "missing" titan BPO, what started the entire mess.
We actually planned not to jump in about 4 days before, you weren't at the meeting though.
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Baxalusx
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 14:50:00 -
[235]
Originally by: Nahia Senne
Originally by: Twoside Edited by: Twoside on 03/01/2008 14:32:19
Originally by: Nahia Senne Nobody really expected that coalition would fail so horribly at F-T. (...) But lucky for us, what was left of the coalition managed to regroup. Then they managed to stop losing space by somehow cramming 500 people into one system.
Cut down on sniffing glue, your logic is failing ;)
(or: it's l33t when you fill f-t up to almost the arbitrary system cap, but it's w34k when others do it?)
edit: was system cap
Thats fiction, heres the truth: System was never even close to 700, if it was even capped at all. Most coalition capitals just refused to jump in. They lied about their inability to jump in the same way D2 lied about the "missing" titan BPO, what started the entire mess.
theres no way to communicate how funny this thread is via text
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Nahia Senne
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 14:52:00 -
[236]
Originally by: NO BRAKES We actually planned not to jump in about 4 days before, you weren't at the meeting though.
Goon issue rookie ship come with jump drives.
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Dafuzz
Gallente Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 14:54:00 -
[237]
Originally by: Vile rat This is the most awesome combination of "Tha PuPPeTmaStEr!" and "We didn't want those regions anyways" I've ever seen. I'm really enjoying every bit of this thread.
We do aim to please sir!
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TrevorReznik
Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 14:55:00 -
[238]
i like how bob keeps going 'well numbers are beating us, look at all the northerners+rsf+everyone else' ignoring that they got beat down in the south by the RSF/unl/a few others and had to flee in shame
sure they were outnumbered before but maybe if their older pvpers logged in and they didnt rely on a bunch of ex-lv/v/corm/rise/exe/random crap alliance pilots to do their heavy lifting they might not be in this situation
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Chowdown
Gallente Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 14:56:00 -
[239]
Edited by: Chowdown on 03/01/2008 14:56:08
Originally by: Dafuzz
Originally by: Vile rat This is the most awesome combination of "Tha PuPPeTmaStEr!" and "We didn't want those regions anyways" I've ever seen. I'm really enjoying every bit of this thread.
We do aim to please sir!
The mutual appreciation for this thread is giving me wood
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Dafuzz
Gallente Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 14:56:00 -
[240]
Originally by: TrevorReznik numbers are beating us
Lies, no one is beating us.
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Fire Hawk
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 14:58:00 -
[241]
Originally by: Vile rat This is the most awesome combination of "Tha PuPPeTmaStEr!" and "We didn't want those regions anyways" I've ever seen. I'm really enjoying every bit of this thread.
Awesome how you can't hold yourself posting even if you dont have any argument to point.
Keep enjoying.
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Chowdown
Gallente Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 14:58:00 -
[242]
Originally by: TrevorReznik i like how bob keeps going 'well numbers are beating us, look at all the northerners+rsf+everyone else' ignoring that they got beat down in the south by the RSF/unl/a few others and had to flee in shame
sure they were outnumbered before but maybe if their older pvpers logged in and they didnt rely on a bunch of ex-lv/v/corm/rise/exe/random crap alliance pilots to do their heavy lifting they might not be in this situation
Sorry do you mean RA, GOON, UNL, TCF, AAA, IAC while then coutning ex-lv (erm what) V who work in the GW.
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Tholarim
Amarr Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 15:00:00 -
[243]
Originally by: Dafuzz
Originally by: TrevorReznik numbers are beating us
Lies, no one is beating us.
we didn't want those beatings anyways. *snip* Signature unsuitable for forums. Please refrain from refering to ongoing investigations in your signature - Valorem |
Nahia Senne
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 15:01:00 -
[244]
Originally by: Fire Hawk
Originally by: Nahia Senne And I must admit, we were obviously off by almost a year. All this was supposed to be happening much earlier. Nobody really expected that coalition would fail so horribly at F-T. Let alone that half of the powerblocks would just roll under the weight.
But lucky for us, what was left of the coalition managed to regroup. Then they managed to stop losing space by somehow cramming 500 people into one system. Then they managed keep giving us epic fights for almost 1 year. And now, our killboards are soooo overflowing it makes me feel soooo hot. We are averaging 3 fleet battles per day
Eve is a beautifull game, isnt-it ?
And nothing beats having the front row seat to see it all
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Nekumi
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 15:04:00 -
[245]
Originally by: Fire Hawk
Originally by: Vile rat This is the most awesome combination of "Tha PuPPeTmaStEr!" and "We didn't want those regions anyways" I've ever seen. I'm really enjoying every bit of this thread.
Awesome how you can't hold yourself posting even if you dont have any argument to point.
Keep enjoying.
"I" "don't" "think" "you" "get" "goons"
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Erik Amirault
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 15:05:00 -
[246]
BoB losing has nothing to do with numbers and everything to do with invincible titans getting nerfed. They were literally all that kept the turd that is the GBC afloat.
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Erik Amirault
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 15:06:00 -
[247]
Be sure to drink your Ovaltine
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Ichi Hon
Gallente Madhatters Inc.
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Posted - 2008.01.03 15:08:00 -
[248]
I think most real PVP'ers would admit that they would enjoy being able to x up in their home system, fly 2-3 jumps, and get in on a 100v100+ fleet battle 2-3x every day, even if it means you are occasionally badly outnumbered or even lose. It sure as hell beats 40+ jump roaming gangs that find 4-5 ganks in 6 hours.
It would probably suck for alliances which are 50% industrialists & hangers-on, i.e. those that had this same opportunity and crumbled in a few months/weeks....but for groups of true 100% pvp'ers like BoB, AAA, etc this must be the sort of holy grail of EvE they look for, win or lose.
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TrevorReznik
Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 15:10:00 -
[249]
Originally by: Chowdown
Originally by: TrevorReznik i like how bob keeps going 'well numbers are beating us, look at all the northerners+rsf+everyone else' ignoring that they got beat down in the south by the RSF/unl/a few others and had to flee in shame
sure they were outnumbered before but maybe if their older pvpers logged in and they didnt rely on a bunch of ex-lv/v/corm/rise/exe/random crap alliance pilots to do their heavy lifting they might not be in this situation
Sorry do you mean RA, GOON, UNL, TCF, AAA, IAC while then coutning ex-lv (erm what) V who work in the GW.
was lv dying and joining bob part of the '06 bbq plan?
oh and also it's good you guys went to delve to get fights because the 9-9 <-> 77s trip was obviously way too far back when you guys held it
then again i guess most of the ex-lv guys are happy to lose space, it's pretty much all they know how to do
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Vile rat
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 15:10:00 -
[250]
Originally by: Fire Hawk
Originally by: Vile rat This is the most awesome combination of "Tha PuPPeTmaStEr!" and "We didn't want those regions anyways" I've ever seen. I'm really enjoying every bit of this thread.
Awesome how you can't hold yourself posting even if you dont have any argument to point.
Keep enjoying.
Oh I am!
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Fire Hawk
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 15:15:00 -
[251]
Originally by: Vile rat
Originally by: Fire Hawk
Originally by: Vile rat This is the most awesome combination of "Tha PuPPeTmaStEr!" and "We didn't want those regions anyways" I've ever seen. I'm really enjoying every bit of this thread.
Awesome how you can't hold yourself posting even if you dont have any argument to point.
Keep enjoying.
Oh I am!
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Shadowsword
COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2008.01.03 15:20:00 -
[252]
Originally by: Nahia Senne And I must admit, we were obviously off by almost a year. All this was supposed to be happening much earlier. Nobody really expected that coalition would fail so horribly at F-T. Let alone that half of the powerblocks would just roll under the weight.
Something doesn't add up with that theory. You make it sound like you planned for F-T to be attacked by the whole coalition. But, if I remember correctly Molle's announcement back then, you were surprised by the coalition thinking there was a titan being built in the system, and that we decided to play lemmings on it.
That doesn't sound like it was planned at all.
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But lucky for us, what was left of the coalition managed to regroup. Then they managed to stop losing space by somehow cramming 500 people into one system...
Your offensive was stopped and you started being pushed back the week Titans got their deserved nerf. But surely those two facts aren't linked, right? ------------------------------------------
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Chowdown
Gallente Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 15:20:00 -
[253]
Originally by: TrevorReznik
Originally by: Chowdown
Originally by: TrevorReznik i like how bob keeps going 'well numbers are beating us, look at all the northerners+rsf+everyone else' ignoring that they got beat down in the south by the RSF/unl/a few others and had to flee in shame
sure they were outnumbered before but maybe if their older pvpers logged in and they didnt rely on a bunch of ex-lv/v/corm/rise/exe/random crap alliance pilots to do their heavy lifting they might not be in this situation
Sorry do you mean RA, GOON, UNL, TCF, AAA, IAC while then coutning ex-lv (erm what) V who work in the GW.
was lv dying and joining bob part of the '06 bbq plan?
oh and also it's good you guys went to delve to get fights because the 9-9 <-> 77s trip was obviously way too far back when you guys held it
then again i guess most of the ex-lv guys are happy to lose space, it's pretty much all they know how to do
I don't think LV ever figured in BoBs plans as anything other than a target, BoB worked alongside LV to gets fights against you guys.
LV where equally accomplished at taking space and losing it, breifly removing RA from all 0.0 conquerable presence and then getting out bandwagonned and losing all of our space
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TeufelsBeitrag
Ore Mongers R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.01.03 15:25:00 -
[254]
I cant figure out how hiring the MC to distract/kill D2, installing pet alliances as buffers, hiring the MC again and towerspamming would help BoB, if they always wanted a good fight on their own doorstep. vv
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Erik Amirault
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 15:26:00 -
[255]
I know this is some kind of a joke and in reality BoB members can't be so stupid as to believe this new 'we meant to lose' line but I really want to believe they are really delusional nerds that can't get over being good at a video game.
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TrevorReznik
Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 15:29:00 -
[256]
if you want good fights come try and kill goon online larges, something bob is hilariously bad at doing, even prior to the titan nerf
but that might end up with losing a fight can't have that :((((
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Callie Nefarious
UA Industry Red Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.03 15:31:00 -
[257]
Edited by: Callie Nefarious on 03/01/2008 15:33:01
Originally by: Chowdown
I don't think LV ever figured in BoBs plans as anything other than a target, BoB worked alongside LV to gets fights against you guys.
LV where equally accomplished at taking space and losing it, breifly removing RA from all 0.0 conquerable presence and then getting out bandwagonned and losing all of our space
You did bandwagon RA, and after you got bandwagoned by RA, what a fail. And its a ****in FACT that you did same with RA (LV, -V-, CHIMP, KOS and other pet alliances, also ascn helped ya with cap fleet). So you kinda fail at this game chow. And hoho stealin titan from your own alliance is da good attitude, keep it up. I guess u will be first who leave bob. sig nerfed by ebil mods |
Avon
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 15:36:00 -
[258]
I'm frankly shocked that this whole thing comes as a surprise to anyone. I've been confessing to it at just about every Eve meet I have attended which involved consuming alcohol, which is to say every Eve meet I have attended.
What was unexpected for me was that we would still be fighting a year later against the wrong people.
The problem really came from overestimating our intended opponents. I was under the impression that were were going to go full force against ASCN, whilst insulting D2 in to attacking us from the north (by claiming that we choose to attack ASCN because D2 would have been too easy). ASCN would use its huge wealth and organisation to stall us (and they nearly did at the start), whilst D2 used it's PvP experience to charge towards Delve from the North. Unfortunately ASCN pretty much fell apart and D2 had apparently been swamped by ship builders rather than pilots. Shame really. I guess we expected D2 to have been more like Evoke are now, and things would have worked out very differently.
Anyway, yes, the plan has always been pretty much to provoke an epic Eve vs BoB struggle, as much to generate some content and interest to Eve as to actually get lots of pew-pew (although that is great too). I guess our goal would have been better achieved with different opponents (no offence to Goonswarm, but they are hardly the "epic content" I had in mind - I was thinking more Darth Vader than Jar-Jar Binks), and less lag; but they are still being achieved none the less.
With the turn of MC we may still get the Epic content, and I am keeping my fingers crossed on the Epic battles (which, it has to be said, have been much improved over recent days).
Yes, people got played - but it wasn't really a secret anyway. I'm sure many people were on to us pretty early on (in fact, I know some were, because we talked and laughed about it over drinks), I'm just shocked that so many people are having a hard time accepting that we are playing a game of internet spaceships, and trying to make it as fun and entertaining as possible. Without a bit of drama Eve would be so dull.
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Dafuzz
Gallente Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 15:36:00 -
[259]
Originally by: Callie Nefarious
Originally by: Chowdown
I don't think LV ever figured in BoBs plans as anything other than a target, BoB worked alongside LV to gets fights against you guys.
LV where equally accomplished at taking space and losing it, breifly removing RA from all 0.0 conquerable presence and then getting out bandwagonned and losing all of our space
You did bandwagon RA, and after you got bandwagoned by RA, what a fail. And its a ****in FACT that you did same with RA (LV, -V-, CHIMP, KOS and other pet alliances, also ascn helped ya with cap fleet). So you kinda fail at this game chow. And hoho stealin titan from your own alliance is da good attitude, keep it up. I guess u will be first who leave bob.
Bye bye Chowdown
HI CALLIE! a/s/l?
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Chowdown
Gallente Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 15:37:00 -
[260]
Originally by: Callie Nefarious Edited by: Callie Nefarious on 03/01/2008 15:33:01
Originally by: Chowdown
I don't think LV ever figured in BoBs plans as anything other than a target, BoB worked alongside LV to gets fights against you guys.
LV where equally accomplished at taking space and losing it, breifly removing RA from all 0.0 conquerable presence and then getting out bandwagonned and losing all of our space
You did bandwagon RA, and after you got bandwagoned by RA, what a fail. And its a ****in FACT that you did same with RA (LV, -V-, CHIMP, KOS and other pet alliances, also ascn helped ya with cap fleet). So you kinda fail at this game chow. And hoho stealin titan from your own alliance is da good attitude, keep it up. I guess u will be first who leave bob.
Your posts are not terrible, they are just BORING, well done on restating on what I said in my orginal post in your own spezzzzzial style. There was no outstanding debt when LV closed, so well done on not really understanding much
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Dafuzz
Gallente Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 15:39:00 -
[261]
Originally by: Avon I've been confessing to it at just about every Eve meet I have attended
I did this too, at Fanfest a couple years ago. Got the video people to shoot pictures of every BoB I could find inviting people to come take delve.
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Dafuzz
Gallente Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 15:40:00 -
[262]
Originally by: Chowdown Your posts are not terrible
Leave Callie alone and go lose an alliance or something
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Erik Amirault
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 15:41:00 -
[263]
Originally by: Avon I'm frankly shocked that this whole thing comes as a surprise to anyone. I've been confessing to it at just about every Eve meet I have attended which involved consuming alcohol, which is to say every Eve meet I have attended.
What was unexpected for me was that we would still be fighting a year later against the wrong people.
The problem really came from overestimating our intended opponents. I was under the impression that were were going to go full force against ASCN, whilst insulting D2 in to attacking us from the north (by claiming that we choose to attack ASCN because D2 would have been too easy). ASCN would use its huge wealth and organisation to stall us (and they nearly did at the start), whilst D2 used it's PvP experience to charge towards Delve from the North. Unfortunately ASCN pretty much fell apart and D2 had apparently been swamped by ship builders rather than pilots. Shame really. I guess we expected D2 to have been more like Evoke are now, and things would have worked out very differently.
Anyway, yes, the plan has always been pretty much to provoke an epic Eve vs BoB struggle, as much to generate some content and interest to Eve as to actually get lots of pew-pew (although that is great too). I guess our goal would have been better achieved with different opponents (no offence to Goonswarm, but they are hardly the "epic content" I had in mind - I was thinking more Darth Vader than Jar-Jar Binks), and less lag; but they are still being achieved none the less.
With the turn of MC we may still get the Epic content, and I am keeping my fingers crossed on the Epic battles (which, it has to be said, have been much improved over recent days).
Yes, people got played - but it wasn't really a secret anyway. I'm sure many people were on to us pretty early on (in fact, I know some were, because we talked and laughed about it over drinks), I'm just shocked that so many people are having a hard time accepting that we are playing a game of internet spaceships, and trying to make it as fun and entertaining as possible. Without a bit of drama Eve would be so dull.
The only thing you revealed at an Eve meet is that you're a tremendous nerd and you'll never feel the touch of a woman.
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Beyond Horizon
Black Omega Security
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Posted - 2008.01.03 15:42:00 -
[264]
Originally by: Erik Amirault I know this is some kind of a joke and in reality BoB members can't be so stupid as to believe this new 'we meant to lose' line but I really want to believe they are really delusional nerds that can't get over being good at a video game.
this -
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TrevorReznik
Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 15:42:00 -
[265]
Originally by: Avon
Anyway, yes, the plan has always been pretty much to provoke an epic Eve vs BoB struggle, as much to generate some content and interest to Eve as to actually get lots of pew-pew (although that is great too). I guess our goal would have been better achieved with different opponents (no offence to Goonswarm, but they are hardly the "epic content" I had in mind - I was thinking more Darth Vader than Jar-Jar Binks), and less lag; but they are still being achieved none the less.
With the turn of MC we may still get the Epic content, and I am keeping my fingers crossed on the Epic battles (which, it has to be said, have been much improved over recent days).
haha it must suck to lose to a bunch of people in t1 hulls that have a tiny cap fleet so you can't get your EPIC fights
also must suck to lose to a bunch of people who are significantly better and keep ganking your capitals with theirs so that you end up using dreads out of siege mode due to paranoia
if you really want epic fights against highly skilled players, rens 911 is waiting for you in empire
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Beyond Horizon
Black Omega Security
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Posted - 2008.01.03 15:45:00 -
[266]
Originally by: Erik Amirault
Originally by: Avon I'm frankly shocked that this whole thing comes as a surprise to anyone. I've been confessing to it at just about every Eve meet I have attended which involved consuming alcohol, which is to say every Eve meet I have attended.
What was unexpected for me was that we would still be fighting a year later against the wrong people.
The problem really came from overestimating our intended opponents. I was under the impression that were were going to go full force against ASCN, whilst insulting D2 in to attacking us from the north (by claiming that we choose to attack ASCN because D2 would have been too easy). ASCN would use its huge wealth and organisation to stall us (and they nearly did at the start), whilst D2 used it's PvP experience to charge towards Delve from the North. Unfortunately ASCN pretty much fell apart and D2 had apparently been swamped by ship builders rather than pilots. Shame really. I guess we expected D2 to have been more like Evoke are now, and things would have worked out very differently.
Anyway, yes, the plan has always been pretty much to provoke an epic Eve vs BoB struggle, as much to generate some content and interest to Eve as to actually get lots of pew-pew (although that is great too). I guess our goal would have been better achieved with different opponents (no offence to Goonswarm, but they are hardly the "epic content" I had in mind - I was thinking more Darth Vader than Jar-Jar Binks), and less lag; but they are still being achieved none the less.
With the turn of MC we may still get the Epic content, and I am keeping my fingers crossed on the Epic battles (which, it has to be said, have been much improved over recent days).
Yes, people got played - but it wasn't really a secret anyway. I'm sure many people were on to us pretty early on (in fact, I know some were, because we talked and laughed about it over drinks), I'm just shocked that so many people are having a hard time accepting that we are playing a game of internet spaceships, and trying to make it as fun and entertaining as possible. Without a bit of drama Eve would be so dull.
The only thing you revealed at an Eve meet is that you're a tremendous nerd and you'll never feel the touch of a woman.
AHAHAHAH THIS -
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TrevorReznik
Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 15:46:00 -
[267]
i feel really bad for all your logistics guys fueling and putting up towers everywhere if you never intended to fight anywhere but delve
quick guys we need to have 100% coverage on a 30+ moon system just in case goons attack it
*months pass*
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Dafuzz
Gallente Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 15:46:00 -
[268]
Originally by: Beyond Horizon AHAHAHAH THIS
You could at least come up with some original stuff by yourself, instead of quoting your overlords tbqh
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Beyond Horizon
Black Omega Security
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Posted - 2008.01.03 15:47:00 -
[269]
Trolling removed. Please stay on topic - Navigator -
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Dafuzz
Gallente Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 15:48:00 -
[270]
Originally by: Beyond Horizon Trolling removed. Please stay on topic - Navigator
Oh my, looks like I got under someone's skin.
PS: I win
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Voculus
E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2008.01.03 15:50:00 -
[271]
So blowing up offline titans, POS bowling, Using a doomsday on a 5-man gatecamp, and listening to enemy fleet movements on their voice comms so you don't have to risk anything, is all part of "looking for a fun fight"? Leet. _________________________________________________________
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Gnulpie
Minmatar Miner Tech
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Posted - 2008.01.03 15:50:00 -
[272]
Originally by: Martinez that is just goon running off at the mouth with their talking points. yes we know bob is dead, there are no real bob members left. anyone that joined after 2005 is a worthless wannabe. yeah yeah yeah we have heard it. Oddly though 4 out of 5 fights we loot the field no matter what the odds against us are. Truth hurts.
Indeed it is true that BoB wins most of the fleet battles. I don't know if it is 80% or 70% or 90%. But they win by far more fleet battles than they lose.
The really amazing thing is, that they still lose region after region despite these good numbers. Maybe the BoB HC should think about if they fight the right battles and not just some unimportant ones which maybe boost the morale and KBs but doesn't help on the grander scheme.
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Tholarim
Amarr Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 15:51:00 -
[273]
Originally by: Beyond Horizon
Originally by: Dafuzz
Originally by: Beyond Horizon AHAHAHAH THIS
You could at least come up with some original stuff by yourself, instead of quoting your overlords tbqh
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Beyond Horizon
Black Omega Security
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Dafuzz
Gallente Evolution Band of Brothers
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Originally by: Voculus So blowing up offline titans, POS bowling, Using a doomsday on a 5-man gatecamp, and listening to enemy fleet movements on their voice comms so you don't have to risk anything, is all part of "looking for a fun fight"? Leet.
Did it make people angry at us?
Check
Are people coming along and trying to gangbang us?
Check
Are we getting an average of three fleet battles a day?
Check
Win
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Beyond Horizon
Black Omega Security
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Kcel Chim
Caldari Arcane Technologies The Five
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Posted - 2008.01.03 15:54:00 -
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Edited by: Kcel Chim on 03/01/2008 15:54:31
Originally by: Beyond Horizon
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and in the context of the current discussion this means what exactly ?
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Hast
Applied Eugenics Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2008.01.03 16:01:00 -
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this thread is so much better now
Originally by: omeega PICTURE TOO BIG, KGB INCOMING HAVE FUN.
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Nekumi
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 16:05:00 -
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Faithless F
Black Omega Security
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Posted - 2008.01.03 16:05:00 -
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Look at all the BoB guys feeling offended and posting "funny" stuff to protect their nerdish friends
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Ichi Hon
Gallente Madhatters Inc.
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Posted - 2008.01.03 16:05:00 -
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Originally by: Voculus So blowing up offline titans, POS bowling, Using a doomsday on a 5-man gatecamp, and listening to enemy fleet movements on their voice comms so you don't have to risk anything, is all part of "looking for a fun fight"? Leet.
Getting fun fights for yourself is not the same as providing fun fights for your opponents. Sure, providing fun fights means they are more likely to show up....but there are other ways to motivate people to come fight you. Like ****ing them off.
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Dafuzz
Gallente Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 16:09:00 -
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Originally by: Faithless F Look at all the BoB guys feeling offended and posting "funny" stuff to protect their nerdish friends
It is next to impossible to offend me sir!
You can call me anything you want. I just prefer not to be called late to breakfast/lunch/dinner. Nerd works ok, rather apt tbqh especially when I am on a forum tear.
With that said, thank you for appreciating my/our candor and wit as we ride the failtrain to losing all of our regions.
'preciate the sentiment.
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Pesadel0
Vagabundos
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Posted - 2008.01.03 16:09:00 -
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A response from Molle and all *** gets loose.
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Faithless F
Black Omega Security
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Posted - 2008.01.03 16:12:00 -
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Originally by: Dafuzz
Originally by: Faithless F Look at all the BoB guys feeling offended and posting "funny" stuff to protect their nerdish friends
It is next to impossible to offend me sir!
You can call me anything you want. I just prefer not to be called late to breakfast/lunch/dinner. Nerd works ok, rather apt tbqh especially when I am on a forum tear.
With that said, thank you for appreciating my/our candor and wit as we ride the failtrain to losing all of our regions.
'preciate the sentiment.
Actually that comment was more about Galavet, but you know damn well without me who are the nerds in your alliance.
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DigitalCommunist
Obsidian Core
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Posted - 2008.01.03 16:13:00 -
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Originally by: Lunas Feelgood
Seriously digi
Wow, didn't think this would hit 10 pages in the time it took me to wake up. But since I'm such a filthy gentleman, I'll reply to you anyways.
To repeat, no matter how much you want to satirize it, its true. The reply I was originally going to throw in there used most of the examples you brought up, you're just putting a spin on it without knowing any of the causes for those events. This isn't something I decided to make up for laughs, because quote honestly - I didn't care what you thought about BoB when I was in it. I'm going to care even less now.
The fact that I'm not even lying or participating in this little bout (you seem to think I'm in this war, and losing it?), shows how utterly incomprehensible the EVE endgame is to you. You play for five years with the intention of playing another five, and you learn the story means more than the non-existent ending. You need some berries and cream for that anger Lunas Feelgood. _______________________________ Complex Fullerene Shards; why God? :| |
Avon
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 16:13:00 -
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Originally by: Faithless F Look at all the BoB guys feeling offended and posting "funny" stuff to protect their nerdish friends
I think it would be more accurate to say that my post, and the implications of it (re: goons getting played), so got under the skin of a GS member that he felt his only course of action was to lash out with personal insults, possibly due to a lack of a more mature coping mechanism.
Whilst I found the "nerd" attack marginally amusing, mostly due to the ironic nature of the medium used to make it, and the fact that my reading it, making probably equally applicable to both parties, I did find the questioning of my wife's gender both slightly offensive, and possibly dangerous to said poster.
Whilst I have been fortuante enough to experience her loving touch, I fear somewhat for those who would provoke her less tender contact.
She may not be a kickboxing supermodel, but she ain't far short.
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Hannobaal
Gallente Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 16:18:00 -
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You know, Mitanni propaganda is at least good, believable propaganda. Seems BoB fail at exactly everything they do these days.
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Alita Tiphares
Aztek Industries
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Posted - 2008.01.03 16:19:00 -
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haha goonies getting trolled
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Azzurian
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Posted - 2008.01.03 16:23:00 -
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Posted - 2008.01.03 16:23:00 -
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Shamis Orzoz
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.01.03 16:29:00 -
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Its common knowledge that BOB wanted all of eve to attack them. I'm certain that losing all their space wasn't part of the plan though.
They've spent many years winning all major conflicts by assembling huge blobs, and I think they forgot what it was like to actually have to fight a war when the cards aren't stacked heavily in their favor.
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djNME
DAB RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.03 16:37:00 -
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rofl,
Well I know I log onto this game for fights.As well as my corp mates and most of the alliance I roll with.So, respect on that point and this "master" plan.Keep bringing it and we both win.Even when one loses.Yeah I think thats what is being said.
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wicked cheese
Eth3real Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.01.03 16:43:00 -
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for bob to be the center of PVP attention for so many years and still claim "we never got a challange" says more about their overuse of metagaming and super caps than anything, imo.
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Emeline Cabernet
Amarr DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 16:44:00 -
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Sergeant Spot Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers Posted - 2006.07.29 07:55:00
During WWII all germans DID warrent having their country invaded, their armed forces utterly destroyed, their government utterly destroyed, and their senior leaders almost all put to death.
By tolerating terrorist in their presense many muslims DO warrent having bombs dropped near them, even fatally close, due to WILLINGLY being near known terrorist.
The Christain argument you make is stupid (I'm not Christain, I have no faith, but I get along fine with people who do).
You are not being judged for simply being with extreme offensive idiots. You are being judged because "you" "personally" "CHOOSE" to "remain" associated with offensive idiots.
Anyone can have the bad luck to be near an idiot when the idiot shows his true stupidity. What YOU "choose" to do then will dictate how you should be judged.
Saying "I don't like what they said, but I'm staying with them and fighting at their side" does not fly very well. -- yeah tell thelungs hes cool, and we've all forgotten the racist blog he used to have. ps, muslims rock.
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Tiberius Caesar
Sothebys
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Originally by: Emeline Cabernet Sergeant Spot Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers Posted - 2006.07.29 07:55:00
During WWII all germans DID warrent having their country invaded, their armed forces utterly destroyed, their government utterly destroyed, and their senior leaders almost all put to death.
By tolerating terrorist in their presense many muslims DO warrent having bombs dropped near them, even fatally close, due to WILLINGLY being near known terrorist.
The Christain argument you make is stupid (I'm not Christain, I have no faith, but I get along fine with people who do).
You are not being judged for simply being with extreme offensive idiots. You are being judged because "you" "personally" "CHOOSE" to "remain" associated with offensive idiots.
Anyone can have the bad luck to be near an idiot when the idiot shows his true stupidity. What YOU "choose" to do then will dictate how you should be judged.
Saying "I don't like what they said, but I'm staying with them and fighting at their side" does not fly very well. -- yeah tell thelungs hes cool, and we've all forgotten the racist blog he used to have. ps, muslims rock.
A morally outraged goon?
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
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Vanki Stormchaser
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 16:50:00 -
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Edited by: Vanki Stormchaser on 03/01/2008 16:50:13 Hey guys watch this
*talks trash in a bar and gets teeth kicked in*
DANCE, MY PUPPETS!!!
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Vanki Stormchaser
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 16:51:00 -
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Edited by: Vanki Stormchaser on 03/01/2008 16:50:54
Originally by: Tiberius Caesar
Originally by: Emeline Cabernet Sergeant Spot Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers Posted - 2006.07.29 07:55:00
During WWII all germans DID warrent having their country invaded, their armed forces utterly destroyed, their government utterly destroyed, and their senior leaders almost all put to death.
By tolerating terrorist in their presense many muslims DO warrent having bombs dropped near them, even fatally close, due to WILLINGLY being near known terrorist.
The Christain argument you make is stupid (I'm not Christain, I have no faith, but I get along fine with people who do).
You are not being judged for simply being with extreme offensive idiots. You are being judged because "you" "personally" "CHOOSE" to "remain" associated with offensive idiots.
Anyone can have the bad luck to be near an idiot when the idiot shows his true stupidity. What YOU "choose" to do then will dictate how you should be judged.
Saying "I don't like what they said, but I'm staying with them and fighting at their side" does not fly very well. -- yeah tell thelungs hes cool, and we've all forgotten the racist blog he used to have. ps, muslims rock.
A morally outraged goon?
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
how stupid are you
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Hast
Applied Eugenics Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2008.01.03 16:54:00 -
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Originally by: Vanki Stormchaser Edited by: Vanki Stormchaser on 03/01/2008 16:50:54
Originally by: Tiberius Caesar
Originally by: Emeline Cabernet Sergeant Spot Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers Posted - 2006.07.29 07:55:00
During WWII all germans DID warrent having their country invaded, their armed forces utterly destroyed, their government utterly destroyed, and their senior leaders almost all put to death.
By tolerating terrorist in their presense many muslims DO warrent having bombs dropped near them, even fatally close, due to WILLINGLY being near known terrorist.
The Christain argument you make is stupid (I'm not Christain, I have no faith, but I get along fine with people who do).
You are not being judged for simply being with extreme offensive idiots. You are being judged because "you" "personally" "CHOOSE" to "remain" associated with offensive idiots.
Anyone can have the bad luck to be near an idiot when the idiot shows his true stupidity. What YOU "choose" to do then will dictate how you should be judged.
Saying "I don't like what they said, but I'm staying with them and fighting at their side" does not fly very well. -- yeah tell thelungs hes cool, and we've all forgotten the racist blog he used to have. ps, muslims rock.
A morally outraged goon?
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
how stupid are you
every goon share the same opinion amirite? and everyone in BoB does to amirite? amirite? AM I DOING THIS RIGHT?
Originally by: omeega PICTURE TOO BIG, KGB INCOMING HAVE FUN.
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Victor Vision
Central Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2008.01.03 16:54:00 -
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Originally by: Dafuzz
Originally by: Voculus So blowing up offline titans, POS bowling, Using a doomsday on a 5-man gatecamp, and listening to enemy fleet movements on their voice comms so you don't have to risk anything, is all part of "looking for a fun fight"? Leet.
Did it make people angry at us?
Check
Are people coming along and trying to gangbang us?
Check
Are we getting an average of three fleet battles a day?
Check
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Ah, Dafuzz. Always fun to read your posts. This thread has developed well.
Let me just add one line to your reasoning:
Did BoB got more than they bargained for?
Check
I posted a quote of Goethe`s "The sorcerers apprentice" in another thread. It fits BoBs situation perfectly.
It describes someone who is full of himself, summons the spirits to mess with them, then gets overwhelmed by them unable to bring the spirits he called back under his control.
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Nahia Senne
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 16:57:00 -
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Originally by: Shamis Orzoz Its common knowledge that BOB wanted all of eve to attack them. I'm certain that losing all their space wasn't part of the plan though.
They've spent many years winning all major conflicts by assembling huge blobs, and I think they forgot what it was like to actually have to fight a war when the cards aren't stacked heavily in their favor.
Aww, I wanted to slam your petty smack post properly, but i couldn't bring myself to do it. Snigg used to be such an awesome pirate corp, and you guys at least undock to fight sometimes.
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Hast
Applied Eugenics Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2008.01.03 17:01:00 -
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Originally by: Shamis Orzoz Its common knowledge that BOB wanted all of eve to attack them. I'm certain that losing all their space wasn't part of the plan though.
They've spent many years winning all major conflicts by assembling huge blobs, and I think they forgot what it was like to actually have to fight a war when the cards aren't stacked heavily in their favor.
nice to see that someone have their head screwed on straight for once
even if he has a cauldron of hate
Originally by: omeega PICTURE TOO BIG, KGB INCOMING HAVE FUN.
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Aneu Angellus
Caldari DAB RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.03 17:03:00 -
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I find it quite amusing that BoB members are now sticking to the whole 'we planned this anyway' excuse. You are sticking to it so vividly that it could change peopleÆs minds and actually make them believe you, problem is though, now you have an anti-bob presence on the forums and it stops your propaganda dead in its tracks.
You claim to have played goons, your the ones loosing space, you claim to be right where you want to be, yet internally your command staff have issued hushed orders to 'trusted' members to bring more of their alts into the alliance so that the drop in membership wouldnÆt be noticed.
People can see through it now, and itÆs a just reward for prior indiscretions. Enjoy.
Aneu
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Avon
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 17:03:00 -
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Originally by: Victor Vision
Did BoB got more than they bargained for?
Check
Actually I'd say it fell far short of our expectations. We wanted the most Epic conflict with the greatest superpowers in Eve, but I guess what we ended up fighting is better than nothing.
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Avon
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 17:05:00 -
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Edited by: Avon on 03/01/2008 17:05:52
Originally by: Aneu Angellus
You claim to have played goons, your the ones loosing space, you claim to be right where you want to be, yet internally your command staff have issued hushed orders to 'trusted' members to bring more of their alts into the alliance so that the drop in membership wouldnÆt be noticed.
Actually Aneu, I handle the recruitment for BNC, and I am turning away more people than I accept.
And no, you aren't getting in, sorry.
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Orebuster
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 17:09:00 -
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OK, I can accept, as a hypothetical, that the RSF has played into the GBC's hands by taking over all of their space. I can accept that this was the plan all along, and causing the failure and destruction of all of the GBC's allies was also part of the plan.
The part I have trouble with is the "we're just looking for good fights". We're in Delve and the GBC (what is left of it) won't undock. You won't find a good fight cowering in station, you have to undock. Why have you wasted all your resources to play station simulator? Why have you made the RSF chase you down to your last system just so you can hide inside a station and proclaim victory?
Three RSF members held 12 hostiles in a system in Delve for 2 hours last night. At least 6 of those members were active. Were your 2-1 odds too overwhelming to be considered a good fight? You don't have to bring everyone, you could just bring as many as we bring.
How low the mighty have fallen. I remember when BoB membership, rightly or wrongly, was proud of inclusion into an "elite" group of pilots. If I recall correctly, there used to be a minimum skillpoint requirement. How many skillpoints does it take to huddle in a station?
Protip: If you don't want to get your expensive ships blown up, and you outnumber your enemy, jump in a t1 frig and blob them, you may die, but you may kill one of them, and at least it is more exciting than cowering in space while your leadership tells you, "this was the plan all along!" |
Aneu Angellus
Caldari DAB RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.03 17:09:00 -
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Originally by: Avon Edited by: Avon on 03/01/2008 17:05:52
Originally by: Aneu Angellus
You claim to have played goons, your the ones loosing space, you claim to be right where you want to be, yet internally your command staff have issued hushed orders to 'trusted' members to bring more of their alts into the alliance so that the drop in membership wouldnÆt be noticed.
Actually Aneu, I handle the recruitment for BNC, and I am turning away more people than I accept.
And no, you aren't getting in, sorry.
Come now Avon, we know BoB use almost anything to their advantage and try to minimize disadvantages, a drop in membership is a disadvantage since your 'public profile' would take a hit. You dont expect us to believe BoB wouldnt stoop to the point of getting its members alts into the corporations to equal out those leaving?
The day you see me with BoB tags is the day that someone else has my accounts - and that will never happen.
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Yussef
Amarr Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 17:14:00 -
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I sure hope more alliances have this master plan for us in the future.
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djNME
DAB RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.03 17:15:00 -
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Originally by: Aneu Angellus
Originally by: Avon Edited by: Avon on 03/01/2008 17:05:52
Originally by: Aneu Angellus
You claim to have played goons, your the ones loosing space, you claim to be right where you want to be, yet internally your command staff have issued hushed orders to 'trusted' members to bring more of their alts into the alliance so that the drop in membership wouldnÆt be noticed.
Actually Aneu, I handle the recruitment for BNC, and I am turning away more people than I accept.
And no, you aren't getting in, sorry.
Come now Avon, we know BoB use almost anything to their advantage and try to minimize disadvantages, a drop in membership is a disadvantage since your 'public profile' would take a hit. You dont expect us to believe BoB wouldnt stoop to the point of getting its members alts into the corporations to equal out those leaving?
The day you see me with BoB tags is the day that someone else has my accounts - and that will never happen.
Aneu
There's shyt to do in game.
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Avon
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 17:16:00 -
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Originally by: Aneu Angellus
Come now Avon, we know BoB use almost anything to their advantage and try to minimize disadvantages, a drop in membership is a disadvantage since your 'public profile' would take a hit. You dont expect us to believe BoB wouldnt stoop to the point of getting its members alts into the corporations to equal out those leaving?
Aneu, I am being absolutely straight with you. I have applications for BNC still pending that I haven't got around to, and they are not alts trying to up the numbers. There are lots of people who want to fight with BoB and be part of what is happening, and who can blame them? Win or lose, it is much better to be able to say you were there, taking part in the greatest conflict Eve has ever seen .. quite possibly that any MMOG has ever seen, rather than just sitting on the side-lines and throwing mud on the forums.
You might not want to believe it, and it may not suit your agenda, but BNC has more active members now than pretty much any time in the last year. I don't know how the other corps are doing for members, but if they are having any problems I have a whole bunch of applications that they can take off my hands.
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Avon
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 17:18:00 -
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Originally by: Yussef I sure hope more alliances have this master plan for us in the future.
Don't flatter yourself, the plan wasn't for you - you are just what we had to settle for.
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Moctobot
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 17:18:00 -
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Originally by: Avon
Originally by: Aneu Angellus
Come now Avon, we know BoB use almost anything to their advantage and try to minimize disadvantages, a drop in membership is a disadvantage since your 'public profile' would take a hit. You dont expect us to believe BoB wouldnt stoop to the point of getting its members alts into the corporations to equal out those leaving?
Aneu, I am being absolutely straight with you. I have applications for BNC still pending that I haven't got around to, and they are not alts trying to up the numbers. There are lots of people who want to fight with BoB and be part of what is happening, and who can blame them? Win or lose, it is much better to be able to say you were there, taking part in the greatest conflict Eve has ever seen .. quite possibly that any MMOG has ever seen, rather than just sitting on the side-lines and throwing mud on the forums.
You might not want to believe it, and it may not suit your agenda, but BNC has more active members now than pretty much any time in the last year. I don't know how the other corps are doing for members, but if they are having any problems I have a whole bunch of applications that they can take off my hands.
everyone wants in on the last voyage of the good ship failboat
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Avon
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 17:20:00 -
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Originally by: Moctobot
everyone wants in on the last voyage of the good ship failboat
Does it hurt so much that they'd rather join us than you that you feel you have to post about it?
Why yes, yes it would seem it does.
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Yussef
Amarr Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 17:22:00 -
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What's funny is the tipping point for this war was the t20 scandal. So is BoB trying to say is that they engineered that whole scandal to set off this conflict? And I guess CCP went along with it cause, sure even though it created a ton of headaches for them and lots of bad will, well they just REALLY like BoB more then their bottom line.
For christ sakes go out with SOME dignity.
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Teabreak
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.01.03 17:24:00 -
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Originally by: Avon
Originally by: Yussef I sure hope more alliances have this master plan for us in the future.
Don't flatter yourself, the plan wasn't for you - you are just what we had to settle for.
That must really suck for you then... you end up having to fight the goons... and still get your butts bounced all round eve!
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Moctobot
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 17:25:00 -
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Originally by: Avon
Originally by: Yussef I sure hope more alliances have this master plan for us in the future.
Don't flatter yourself, the plan wasn't for you - you are just what we had to settle for.
i love cognitive dissonance - if we are worse than you at this game then why are we winning while you are losing
it isnt numbers - you started out with just as many
the truth of the matter is that you left your pets in the lurch and they all died one by one until you stood alone and now you are gonna die alone
you guys were supposed to be my end game but i guess i bought the hype because you are all awful at this game in reality
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Aneu Angellus
Caldari DAB RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.03 17:26:00 -
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Originally by: Avon
Originally by: Moctobot
everyone wants in on the last voyage of the good ship failboat
Does it hurt so much that they'd rather join us than you that you feel you have to post about it?
Why yes, yes it would seem it does.
Just out of curiosity could you take a screenshot of your applications and blank out the names possibly? Im curious.
Aneu ________________
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Avon
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 17:26:00 -
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Originally by: Teabreak
That must really suck for you then... you end up having to fight the goons... and still get your butts bounced all round eve!
Fortunate then that they are just the rather unpleasant fascade of a rather more capable coalition, otherwise you would be correct, my e-dignity would be in tatters.
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Moctobot
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 17:28:00 -
[318]
Originally by: Avon
Originally by: Moctobot
everyone wants in on the last voyage of the good ship failboat
Does it hurt so much that they'd rather join us than you that you feel you have to post about it?
Why yes, yes it would seem it does.
yea man we are hurting for numbers
you sure are weapons grade stupid avon
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Avon
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 17:29:00 -
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Originally by: Aneu Angellus
Just out of curiosity could you take a screenshot of your applications and blank out the names possibly? Im curious.
Aneu
Wait. Did you just suggest I edit a screenshot in photoshop and then present it to you as evidence? Do you not see a possible weakness in that logic?
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snerdly
snerd LTD
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Posted - 2008.01.03 17:29:00 -
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Hi there BoB.
I suppose that is has been established that there was some sort of plan. What sort of plan? Very simple. The extent of the plan, it seems, was to get a large percentage of EVE against BoB.
That was the plan. The fact that is was predicted that BoB might have to fall back to Delve is irrelevant; that was realism talking. Your goal never was, and still is not, to fall back to Delve. Your goal was simply to get a large percentage of EVE against you.
What was this 'plan'? Well, it wasn't much of anything actually... Just keep acting aggressive and keep saying things like 'we want to take over the universe'. IN other words, just keep being BoB. (And no, being arrogant pr1cks wasn't part of the plan. You' act like arrogant pr1cks because you are arrogant pr1cks)
So, at the start of this war, your plan came to fruition. A large percentage of EVE was against you. You entered into the most epic fight EVE has ever seen. At this point, you did not know if you would win, or if you would lose. You did not know if you were end up defending your fortreses to the last, or smashing down the enemy's gates. You fought your hardest, and expected your allies to do the same. Turns out you're going to lose.
So. We win, you lose. Nothing about this plan changes that fact. Nothing about this plan should change anything about the victory the coalition is achieving.
Yes, you're rolling it out now as damage control. No, it doesn't matter.
Originally by: Securion Wolfheart
EVE might never again see such a good alliance as the one you are about to kill off, with the help of the rest of the scum and trash you have pulled together against BOB. |
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Nahia Senne
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 17:30:00 -
[321]
Originally by: Moctobot everyone wants in on the last voyage of the good ship failboat
Good ships don't sink, there is no rats to abandon it.
Only failboat would be applying to goonswarm and spending this entire war shooting large POS with a BS.
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Vanki Stormchaser
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 17:31:00 -
[322]
Originally by: Avon
Originally by: Aneu Angellus
Come now Avon, we know BoB use almost anything to their advantage and try to minimize disadvantages, a drop in membership is a disadvantage since your 'public profile' would take a hit. You dont expect us to believe BoB wouldnt stoop to the point of getting its members alts into the corporations to equal out those leaving?
Aneu, I am being absolutely straight with you. I have applications for BNC still pending that I haven't got around to, and they are not alts trying to up the numbers. There are lots of people who want to fight with BoB and be part of what is happening, and who can blame them? Win or lose, it is much better to be able to say you were there, taking part in the greatest conflict Eve has ever seen .. quite possibly that any MMOG has ever seen, rather than just sitting on the side-lines and throwing mud on the forums.
You might not want to believe it, and it may not suit your agenda, but BNC has more active members now than pretty much any time in the last year. I don't know how the other corps are doing for members, but if they are having any problems I have a whole bunch of applications that they can take off my hands.
How many of them are refugees from exe, rise, d-l, yw, corelli, cow, lv, v, mwa, iss, fix, soco, aftermath, tsc, bos, styx, hun
Being belligerent and getting killed is hardly a pinnacle of achievement. The fact that you guys are so proud of it is hilarious.
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Aneu Angellus
Caldari DAB RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.03 17:31:00 -
[323]
Originally by: Avon
Originally by: Aneu Angellus
Just out of curiosity could you take a screenshot of your applications and blank out the names possibly? Im curious.
Aneu
Wait. Did you just suggest I edit a screenshot in photoshop and then present it to you as evidence? Do you not see a possible weakness in that logic?
No not really, i didnt mention photoshop, you could use MS Paint for all i care, its quite easy to notice if dates have been copied and it would take quite some time to do. So, can you do it? Or leave the names in there, im sure those who have applied to join BoB wont mind since if they were accepted they would have it in their tags anyway.
Aneu ________________
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Yussef
Amarr Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 17:31:00 -
[324]
Originally by: Avon
Originally by: Teabreak
That must really suck for you then... you end up having to fight the goons... and still get your butts bounced all round eve!
Fortunate then that they are just the rather unpleasant fascade of a rather more capable coalition, otherwise you would be correct, my e-dignity would be in tatters.
BTW if the "we meant to do it line" ever breaks past your denial try "well we left fighting and our dignity was intact, so we win!" or "our K/D ratio kicked ass, so we win!" or "I needed to get outside more anyway, so we win!"
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Phrixus Zephyr
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.01.03 17:31:00 -
[325]
Originally by: Shoukei
Quote: Originally Posted by Blacklight In terms of likely outcomes and consequences for BoB the first thing you have to remember is that we've been setting this war and it's climax up for over two years now. Why on earth do you think we've been acting all arrogant, rubbing people's noses in it, kicking sand in everyone's faces and generally ****ing everyone off for so long?
People seem to forget that we wanted this war, we wanted these odds, we wanted the challenge, we wanted this much pressure and we wanted to risk everything. Why? So we could engineer the most epic conflict Eve has ever seen, create the best player driven content in any MMO ever and ensure both you (yes all of you, even Mittani Razz) and we have the most fun ever. The likes of Molle, Galavet, Thol, Coranor and myself have been dreaming of this and working towards it for years.
I can tell you for sure that forcing us out of Delve won't kill us, as a group of corporations and people we work too well together, have too much history together, have too much fun together and enjoy each other's company too much to just go our seperate ways.
Even if we have a few months off doing our own thing as a break if/when we get forced out of Delve, you'll see BoB back in action again somewhere. We've been gaming together for close on four years now, losing this war (and remember we've been working towards this climax for two years now) and losing the rest of our territory will just push us into a new phase, new style, new goals, new challenges and more fun.
I for one will most certainly hold my head up high, stick a finger up at everyone and laugh when I say "we went down fighting in Delve and look how many of you ******* it took to do it... I hope you all had as much fun as we did" Razz
If you think having someone like 0utbreak landing on your doorstep is painful, look forward to having a territory-less BNC, RKK, Evol, DICE and Finfleet landing on your doorstep, it'll be like having a high speed gravel enema in space.
In terms of what happens after this war politically, I hope we see a rash of much smaller territorial wars, much shorter positive standings lists all round and see the demise of massive multi-alliance power blocks (at least for a while).
this was posted on Monday, 25 December 2006
Finfleet wern't in BoB on Monday, 25 December 2006.
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Orebuster
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 17:32:00 -
[326]
Originally by: Avon I don't know how the other corps are doing for members, but if they are having any problems I have a whole bunch of applications that they can take off my hands.
Let me guess, former FIX, RISE, CORM, GONAD, and LV pilots? No wonder you want to discard them.
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Moctobot
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 17:34:00 -
[327]
Originally by: Nahia Senne
Originally by: Moctobot everyone wants in on the last voyage of the good ship failboat
Good ships don't sink, there is no rats to abandon it.
man between this statement and the 'the wounded tiger is a tiger before it is wounded' statement you guys are getting zen as hell
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Baxalusx
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 17:35:00 -
[328]
You think you got it hard, Avon, that you didn't get the epic fight you expected? What about us? We fought our way, tooth and nail, through henchman after henchman, growing an outcast to a superpower. And when we finally got to the god damned villain, the whole point, he dies of a heart attack.
Don't tell goons about disappointing endgame content, because pot kettle black. ---------
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Tholarim
Amarr Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 17:35:00 -
[329]
Originally by: Moctobot it isnt numbers - you started out with just as many
That is the most common misconception out there. Numbers in alliances mean **** all. It's the alliance activity. Count the amount of alliances on coalition side able to field 80-100 man gangs, and do the same for GBC alliances. You can start the count whenever in the timescale of the conflict and will have to conclude that the coalition has always outnumberd the gbc on the field. Theoretical numbers mean **** all.
But keep believeing the hype. We all planned this anyways.
Now if only i could remember what i'm supposed to have for dinner tonight *snip* Signature unsuitable for forums. Please refrain from refering to ongoing investigations in your signature - Valorem |
Yussef
Amarr Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 17:36:00 -
[330]
Originally by: Moctobot
Originally by: Nahia Senne
Originally by: Moctobot everyone wants in on the last voyage of the good ship failboat
Good ships don't sink, there is no rats to abandon it.
man between this statement and the 'the wounded tiger is a tiger before it is wounded' statement you guys are getting zen as hell
Everyone turns to religion at the end.
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Jonny JoJo
Amarr The Imperial Guards Darkness Rising Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.03 17:36:00 -
[331]
Edited by: Jonny JoJo on 03/01/2008 17:36:47
Originally by: Orebuster
The part I have trouble with is the "we're just looking for good fights". We're in Delve and the GBC (what is left of it) won't undock. You won't find a good fight cowering in station, you have to undock. Why have you wasted all your resources to play station simulator? Why have you made the RSF chase you down to your last system just so you can hide inside a station and proclaim victory?
I looked in bob killboard and they were not in delve, as they were fighting MC by the looks of things in mc's region, or they were fighting smash/roadkill and so on.
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Snowden Vel
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 17:36:00 -
[332]
Originally by: Avon
Originally by: Aneu Angellus
Come now Avon, we know BoB use almost anything to their advantage and try to minimize disadvantages, a drop in membership is a disadvantage since your 'public profile' would take a hit. You dont expect us to believe BoB wouldnt stoop to the point of getting its members alts into the corporations to equal out those leaving?
Aneu, I am being absolutely straight with you. I have applications for BNC still pending that I haven't got around to, and they are not alts trying to up the numbers. There are lots of people who want to fight with BoB and be part of what is happening, and who can blame them? Win or lose, it is much better to be able to say you were there, taking part in the greatest conflict Eve has ever seen .. quite possibly that any MMOG has ever seen, rather than just sitting on the side-lines and throwing mud on the forums.
You might not want to believe it, and it may not suit your agenda, but BNC has more active members now than pretty much any time in the last year. I don't know how the other corps are doing for members, but if they are having any problems I have a whole bunch of applications that they can take off my hands.
It's funny that you're passing off your increase in applications as a sign of the GBC's good health when it's clearly the result of the complete collapse and disintegration of your pets.
http://www.eve-maps.com/outpostalert/alliancechart.asp?FilterType=Alliance&FilterBy=FIX
http://www.eve-maps.com/outpostalert/alliancechart.asp?FilterType=Alliance&FilterBy=STYX.
http://www.eve-maps.com/outpostalert/alliancechart.asp?FilterType=Alliance&FilterBy=-Y-
http://www.eve-maps.com/outpostalert/alliancechart.asp?FilterType=Alliance&FilterBy=AXE
http://www.eve-maps.com/outpostalert/alliancechart.asp?FilterType=Alliance&FilterBy=.EXE
(RISE totally folded, and I couldn't find CORM in the ranking, nor am I counting alliances that split from the GBC but may have had loyalists seek to stay)
All these pilots had to go somewhere, and the last refuge of the incompetent is now within BoB itself.
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snerdly
snerd LTD
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Posted - 2008.01.03 17:41:00 -
[333]
Originally by: Avon
Woah there cowboy!
I'm pretty sure the OP would be somewhat concerned by you claiming he is doing damage control for BoB.
That fact that I'm posting it in a thread not made by bob is irrelevant, idiot.
Try addressing what I said.
Originally by: Securion Wolfheart
EVE might never again see such a good alliance as the one you are about to kill off, with the help of the rest of the scum and trash you have pulled together against BOB. |
Shoukei
Caldari Boobs Ahoy
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Posted - 2008.01.03 17:42:00 -
[334]
Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr Finfleet wern't in BoB on Monday, 25 December 2006.
linky for you, so you can hang out with the cool crowd.
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Aneu Angellus
Caldari DAB RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.03 17:42:00 -
[335]
Originally by: Chowdown
Originally by: Aneu Angellus
Originally by: Avon Edited by: Avon on 03/01/2008 17:05:52
Originally by: Aneu Angellus
You claim to have played goons, your the ones loosing space, you claim to be right where you want to be, yet internally your command staff have issued hushed orders to 'trusted' members to bring more of their alts into the alliance so that the drop in membership wouldnÆt be noticed.
Actually Aneu, I handle the recruitment for BNC, and I am turning away more people than I accept.
And no, you aren't getting in, sorry.
Come now Avon, we know BoB use almost anything to their advantage and try to minimize disadvantages, a drop in membership is a disadvantage since your 'public profile' would take a hit. You dont expect us to believe BoB wouldnt stoop to the point of getting its members alts into the corporations to equal out those leaving?
The day you see me with BoB tags is the day that someone else has my accounts - and that will never happen.
Aneu
Amazingly accurate and high level intel Aneu I am very impressed, now if you would just provide some proof as to your accusation?
Im waiting on Avon im afraid... ________________
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eddie stobartian
Minmatar Rogue Technologies
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Posted - 2008.01.03 17:43:00 -
[336]
well i would'nt wanna be an ex bob pet right now...... knowing now you got played by bob for there own selfish endeavours....
still... live by the sword-die by the sword i suppose
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Tholarim
Amarr Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 17:44:00 -
[337]
Originally by: eddie stobartian well i would'nt wanna be an ex bob pet right now...... knowing now you got played by bob for there own selfish endeavours....
still... live by the sword-die by the sword i suppose
i see what you did there *snip* Signature unsuitable for forums. Please refrain from refering to ongoing investigations in your signature - Valorem |
Chowdown
Gallente Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 17:45:00 -
[338]
Edited by: Chowdown on 03/01/2008 17:45:18
Originally by: Aneu Angellus Stuff
What are you waiting for? You have no proof it is baseless rubbish
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Technix
Gallente DAB RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.03 17:46:00 -
[339]
Originally by: snerdly Hi there BoB.
I suppose that is has been established that there was some sort of plan. What sort of plan? Very simple. The extent of the plan, it seems, was to get a large percentage of EVE against BoB.
That was the plan. The fact that is was predicted that BoB might have to fall back to Delve is irrelevant; that was realism talking. Your goal never was, and still is not, to fall back to Delve. Your goal was simply to get a large percentage of EVE against you.
What was this 'plan'? Well, it wasn't much of anything actually... Just keep acting aggressive and keep saying things like 'we want to take over the universe'. IN other words, just keep being BoB. (And no, being arrogant pr1cks wasn't part of the plan. You' act like arrogant pr1cks because you are arrogant pr1cks)
So, at the start of this war, your plan came to fruition. A large percentage of EVE was against you. You entered into the most epic fight EVE has ever seen. At this point, you did not know if you would win, or if you would lose. You did not know if you were end up defending your fortreses to the last, or smashing down the enemy's gates. You fought your hardest, and expected your allies to do the same. Turns out you're going to lose.
So. We win, you lose. Nothing about this plan changes that fact. Nothing about this plan should change anything about the victory the coalition is achieving.
Yes, you're rolling it out now as damage control. No, it doesn't matter.
you and shamiz have won this thread sir!
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Moctobot
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 17:47:00 -
[340]
this is proof of my chowdown antimidas equivalence theorem which states that instead of gold everything that chowdown touches turns to ****
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Aneu Angellus
Caldari DAB RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.03 17:48:00 -
[341]
Originally by: Tholarim
Originally by: eddie stobartian well i would'nt wanna be an ex bob pet right now...... knowing now you got played by bob for there own selfish endeavours....
still... live by the sword-die by the sword i suppose
i see what you did there
Showed the exact internal workings of BoB in a centance... thats exactly what he did, in depth i guess you could say that BoB stepped on each of its 'friends' alienating them, making sure they died due to their 'plan' meaning they wanted just themselfs vs the rest of eve... its not a very nice thing and it shows MC made the right choice in what it did...
Aneu ________________
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Aneu Angellus
Caldari DAB RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.03 17:48:00 -
[342]
Originally by: Chowdown Edited by: Chowdown on 03/01/2008 17:45:18
Originally by: Aneu Angellus Stuff
What are you waiting for? You have no proof it is baseless rubbish
As i said, im waiting on Avon... ________________
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Phrixus Zephyr
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.01.03 17:55:00 -
[343]
I imagine there is truth to it, but there are also blatent lies which everyone will continue to see through.
At what point in any logs or mails posted does anyone refer to an RA/Goon/-A- alliance stomping all over everything? Its stated in various sources that BoBs idea of 'everyone' was D2 + pets and ASCN + pets. Which isn't really the same as what is happening now.
BoB didn't attack to '**** them off and kill their capitals' ASCN were attacked with territory grabbing clearly in mind. D2 were steamrolled by MC+ assorted allies who went straight for territory and stomped out any fight if it was at all possible.
I know taking territory away is a good way to get fight, but BoB never once looked as though that was their intention. Territory was taken, quickly fortified, pets installed. Comments were made of the desire to take all of 0.0. News articles stating the same thing were released. BoB continued to grab more space, they didn't stop for many fights, titans were used as often as humanly possible. Then the patch hit.
It may have been A plan, but it's not the plan you executed.
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Yussef
Amarr Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 17:58:00 -
[344]
Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr I imagine there is truth to it, but there are also blatent lies which everyone will continue to see through.
At what point in any logs or mails posted does anyone refer to an RA/Goon/-A- alliance stomping all over everything? Its stated in various sources that BoBs idea of 'everyone' was D2 + pets and ASCN + pets. Which isn't really the same as what is happening now.
BoB didn't attack to '**** them off and kill their capitals' ASCN were attacked with territory grabbing clearly in mind. D2 were steamrolled by MC+ assorted allies who went straight for territory and stomped out any fight if it was at all possible.
I know taking territory away is a good way to get fight, but BoB never once looked as though that was their intention. Territory was taken, quickly fortified, pets installed. Comments were made of the desire to take all of 0.0. News articles stating the same thing were released. BoB continued to grab more space, they didn't stop for many fights, titans were used as often as humanly possible. Then the patch hit.
It may have been A plan, but it's not the plan you executed.
BoB totally planned for you to write that post. They just pwned you hard.
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Tholarim
Amarr Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 17:58:00 -
[345]
Originally by: Aneu Angellus
Originally by: Tholarim
Originally by: eddie stobartian well i would'nt wanna be an ex bob pet right now...... knowing now you got played by bob for there own selfish endeavours....
still... live by the sword-die by the sword i suppose
i see what you did there
Showed the exact internal workings of BoB in a centance... thats exactly what he did, in depth i guess you could say that BoB stepped on each of its 'friends' alienating them, making sure they died due to their 'plan' meaning they wanted just themselfs vs the rest of eve... its not a very nice thing and it shows MC made the right choice in what it did...
Aneu
I laugh everytime you speak about friends. Our allies know how much we did or did not do to defend them. Let them be the judge. *snip* Signature unsuitable for forums. Please refrain from refering to ongoing investigations in your signature - Valorem |
Nahia Senne
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 18:00:00 -
[346]
Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr I imagine there is truth to it, but there are also blatent lies which everyone will continue to see through.
At what point in any logs or mails posted does anyone refer to an RA/Goon/-A- alliance stomping all over everything? Its stated in various sources that BoBs idea of 'everyone' was D2 + pets and ASCN + pets. Which isn't really the same as what is happening now.
BoB didn't attack to '**** them off and kill their capitals' ASCN were attacked with territory grabbing clearly in mind. D2 were steamrolled by MC+ assorted allies who went straight for territory and stomped out any fight if it was at all possible.
I know taking territory away is a good way to get fight, but BoB never once looked as though that was their intention. Territory was taken, quickly fortified, pets installed. Comments were made of the desire to take all of 0.0. News articles stating the same thing were released. BoB continued to grab more space, they didn't stop for many fights, titans were used as often as humanly possible. Then the patch hit.
It may have been A plan, but it's not the plan you executed.
Taking space is the only way to make people fight. Some simply cave in, some bring it. ASCN and D2 caved in. Coalition members you mentioned plus few dozens of other alliances you failed to mention kept fighting. You cannot deny that this is the greatest thing EvE has ever seen, and it keeps getting better.
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Moctobot
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 18:01:00 -
[347]
Edited by: Moctobot on 03/01/2008 18:04:44
Originally by: Tholarim
Originally by: Aneu Angellus
Originally by: Tholarim
Originally by: eddie stobartian well i would'nt wanna be an ex bob pet right now...... knowing now you got played by bob for there own selfish endeavours....
still... live by the sword-die by the sword i suppose
i see what you did there
Showed the exact internal workings of BoB in a centance... thats exactly what he did, in depth i guess you could say that BoB stepped on each of its 'friends' alienating them, making sure they died due to their 'plan' meaning they wanted just themselfs vs the rest of eve... its not a very nice thing and it shows MC made the right choice in what it did...
Aneu
I laugh everytime you speak about friends. Our allies know how much we did or did not do to defend them. Let them be the judge.
they must be appreciative of your support considering half of them are not in your alliance
(the ones in empire now)
{the other half joined your alliance}
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Yussef
Amarr Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 18:02:00 -
[348]
Edited by: Yussef on 03/01/2008 18:02:39 Edited by: Yussef on 03/01/2008 18:02:03
Originally by: Moctobot
Originally by: Tholarim
I laugh everytime you speak about friends. Our allies know how much we did or did not do to defend them. Let them be the judge.
they must be appreciative of your support considering half of them are not in your alliance
KABLAMMO!
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Aneu Angellus
Caldari DAB RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.03 18:02:00 -
[349]
Originally by: Tholarim
Originally by: Aneu Angellus
Originally by: Tholarim
Originally by: eddie stobartian well i would'nt wanna be an ex bob pet right now...... knowing now you got played by bob for there own selfish endeavours....
still... live by the sword-die by the sword i suppose
i see what you did there
Showed the exact internal workings of BoB in a centance... thats exactly what he did, in depth i guess you could say that BoB stepped on each of its 'friends' alienating them, making sure they died due to their 'plan' meaning they wanted just themselfs vs the rest of eve... its not a very nice thing and it shows MC made the right choice in what it did...
Aneu
I laugh everytime you speak about friends. Our allies know how much we did or did not do to defend them. Let them be the judge.
Like Lotka Volterra? When BoB went to help for a weekend then went back home? Like RISE when BoB called all their forces back to Delve? Like Fix, when bob was hardly seen in the defence of their systems and rather than attack people attacking allies decided to attack MC who were only destroying towers in PB.
Yes Thol, your allies know exactly how much you didnt do, and it shows.
Aneu ________________
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eddie stobartian
Minmatar Rogue Technologies
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Posted - 2008.01.03 18:05:00 -
[350]
I'm curious..
If this was indeed your plan you "cooked" up during sampling hot sausage at your 2006 bbq love in.... can we expect to see the return of the awe-inspiring DBP anytime soon?
I miss his rambling madness
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Will Hunter
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 18:05:00 -
[351]
Edited by: Will Hunter on 03/01/2008 18:06:26
Originally by: Avon
Originally by: snerdly
Yes, you're rolling it out now as damage control. No, it doesn't matter.
Woah there cowboy!
I'm pretty sure the OP would be somewhat concerned by you claiming he is doing damage control for BoB.
Ifeel prety dumb pointing the obvius, but i dont think you are stupid enought, to not figure that he is just mocking your current change of objetives.
If this is damage control or not, i dont care, the truth is some people are geting trolled out of it, is a good propaganda, but i bet what is more important ,is the fact that the gbc members are getting a huge moral bost out of it.
Your ''PLAN'' is very vague, open ended and filled to the brim with holes, that at least 50 posters or trolls have asked about, so there is no sense in trying to beat the dead horse. everyone belives what they want. If the outcome of this is a Delve owned by GS, and a lot of bob guys living in npc/low sec living the Veritas dream, everyone will be happy .
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Yussef
Amarr Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 18:06:00 -
[352]
I can now reveal it was Goonswarms master plan, using our BoB spies, to manipulate them into thinking that starting this war was a good idea. Your move BoB.
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Chowdown
Gallente Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 18:06:00 -
[353]
Originally by: Aneu Angellus
Originally by: Tholarim
Originally by: Aneu Angellus
Originally by: Tholarim
Originally by: eddie stobartian well i would'nt wanna be an ex bob pet right now...... knowing now you got played by bob for there own selfish endeavours....
still... live by the sword-die by the sword i suppose
i see what you did there
Showed the exact internal workings of BoB in a centance... thats exactly what he did, in depth i guess you could say that BoB stepped on each of its 'friends' alienating them, making sure they died due to their 'plan' meaning they wanted just themselfs vs the rest of eve... its not a very nice thing and it shows MC made the right choice in what it did...
Aneu
I laugh everytime you speak about friends. Our allies know how much we did or did not do to defend them. Let them be the judge.
Like Lotka Volterra? When BoB went to help for a weekend then went back home? Like RISE when BoB called all their forces back to Delve? Like Fix, when bob was hardly seen in the defence of their systems and rather than attack people attacking allies decided to attack MC who were only destroying towers in PB.
Yes Thol, your allies know exactly how much you didnt do, and it shows.
Aneu
In all of the cases you stated BoB were needed in two places at one time, it is not a case of neglect and you cannot spin it into one.
Now Aneu what are you waiting on from Avon? And where is your proof re your previous statement, you would not want everyone on these forum to think you are full of it, MS/CAP II stylee
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Baxalusx
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 18:07:00 -
[354]
Originally by: Tholarim
Originally by: Aneu Angellus
Originally by: Tholarim
Originally by: eddie stobartian well i would'nt wanna be an ex bob pet right now...... knowing now you got played by bob for there own selfish endeavours....
still... live by the sword-die by the sword i suppose
i see what you did there
Showed the exact internal workings of BoB in a centance... thats exactly what he did, in depth i guess you could say that BoB stepped on each of its 'friends' alienating them, making sure they died due to their 'plan' meaning they wanted just themselfs vs the rest of eve... its not a very nice thing and it shows MC made the right choice in what it did...
Aneu
I laugh everytime you speak about friends. Our allies know how much we did or did not do to defend them. Let them be the judge.
yes they do!
your pets openly discussed your inability to defend them and left for empire, your oldest ally finally turned their backs on you, people outside and with no knowledge of EVE widely condemning your alliance in the t20 scandal - irrespective of the validity of any of it, i think just about everyone has judged BoB ---------
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Chowdown
Gallente Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 18:14:00 -
[355]
Originally by: Aneu Angellus
Originally by: Chowdown Edited by: Chowdown on 03/01/2008 18:12:09
Originally by: Aneu Angellus Holy crap Hilarious GM statement
I am what? Proof for any of these statements would be great
You know exactly what im talking about
I really, really don't, I think you might of got a little excited.
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Aneu Angellus
Caldari DAB RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.03 18:16:00 -
[356]
Originally by: Chowdown
Originally by: Aneu Angellus
Originally by: Chowdown Edited by: Chowdown on 03/01/2008 18:12:09
Originally by: Aneu Angellus Holy crap Hilarious GM statement
I am what? Proof for any of these statements would be great
You know exactly what im talking about
I really, really don't, I think you might of got a little excited.
Is The Enslaver not your cousin Chowdown? ________________
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Ria Sotori
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 18:17:00 -
[357]
Originally by: Nahia Senne
Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr I imagine there is truth to it, but there are also blatent lies which everyone will continue to see through.
At what point in any logs or mails posted does anyone refer to an RA/Goon/-A- alliance stomping all over everything? Its stated in various sources that BoBs idea of 'everyone' was D2 + pets and ASCN + pets. Which isn't really the same as what is happening now.
BoB didn't attack to '**** them off and kill their capitals' ASCN were attacked with territory grabbing clearly in mind. D2 were steamrolled by MC+ assorted allies who went straight for territory and stomped out any fight if it was at all possible.
I know taking territory away is a good way to get fight, but BoB never once looked as though that was their intention. Territory was taken, quickly fortified, pets installed. Comments were made of the desire to take all of 0.0. News articles stating the same thing were released. BoB continued to grab more space, they didn't stop for many fights, titans were used as often as humanly possible. Then the patch hit.
It may have been A plan, but it's not the plan you executed.
Taking space is the only way to make people fight. Some simply cave in, some bring it. ASCN and D2 caved in. Coalition members you mentioned plus few dozens of other alliances you failed to mention kept fighting. You cannot deny that this is the greatest thing EvE has ever seen, and it keeps getting better.
As with most petulant ppl they keep trying to look for holes they can spin on.... hard fact of the matter is, when the original discussions took place RA were not considered much of a factor and LV was still alive as a bufferzone on them. Goons at that point in time and even today have yet to demonstrate the ability to accomplish anything militaristically solo other then shooting undefended POS and taking credit for the victories of there overlords.
Its really funny to read back thru some of the threads in COAD to hear the goons tell it anytime theres a victory against BOB they are the cause and all you other alliances including there own masters (RA) are just along for the ride on there coat tails. LOL
Just think boys and girls, the biggest event of all was the self appointed "Destroyers of Games" the Ebil Goons had to learn to play the game the EVE way and get real allies and develop and maintain agreements with others just to stay in 0.0 :) If nothing else we should all slap ourselves on the back for making them play our game instead of there own. fofofofofofofo
Black Nova Corp PMS Ganksquad 3-1 Odds are the only way Bufoonswarm will fight and they still lose and blame you. |
Chowdown
Gallente Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 18:17:00 -
[358]
Enslaver is not my cousin Aneu
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Aneu Angellus
Caldari DAB RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.03 18:18:00 -
[359]
Edited by: Aneu Angellus on 03/01/2008 18:17:50
Originally by: Chowdown Enslaver is not my cousin Aneu
Ok i believe you, honest. Now can you get Avon to give me that screenshot please? Thanks. ________________
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Chowdown
Gallente Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 18:20:00 -
[360]
Originally by: Aneu Angellus Edited by: Aneu Angellus on 03/01/2008 18:17:50
Originally by: Chowdown Enslaver is not my cousin Aneu
Ok i believe you, honest. Now can you get Avon to give me that screenshot please? Thanks.
Wow that was a strange accusation, moving on Avon I am sure will do what he likes so please feel free to encourage him. You however are reasponsible for your own actions, so provide some proof for your previous statements, (even the cousin one if you like )
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Moctobot
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 18:21:00 -
[361]
Originally by: Ria Sotori
Originally by: Nahia Senne
Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr I imagine there is truth to it, but there are also blatent lies which everyone will continue to see through.
At what point in any logs or mails posted does anyone refer to an RA/Goon/-A- alliance stomping all over everything? Its stated in various sources that BoBs idea of 'everyone' was D2 + pets and ASCN + pets. Which isn't really the same as what is happening now.
BoB didn't attack to '**** them off and kill their capitals' ASCN were attacked with territory grabbing clearly in mind. D2 were steamrolled by MC+ assorted allies who went straight for territory and stomped out any fight if it was at all possible.
I know taking territory away is a good way to get fight, but BoB never once looked as though that was their intention. Territory was taken, quickly fortified, pets installed. Comments were made of the desire to take all of 0.0. News articles stating the same thing were released. BoB continued to grab more space, they didn't stop for many fights, titans were used as often as humanly possible. Then the patch hit.
It may have been A plan, but it's not the plan you executed.
Taking space is the only way to make people fight. Some simply cave in, some bring it. ASCN and D2 caved in. Coalition members you mentioned plus few dozens of other alliances you failed to mention kept fighting. You cannot deny that this is the greatest thing EvE has ever seen, and it keeps getting better.
As with most petulant ppl they keep trying to look for holes they can spin on.... hard fact of the matter is, when the original discussions took place RA were not considered much of a factor and LV was still alive as a bufferzone on them. Goons at that point in time and even today have yet to demonstrate the ability to accomplish anything militaristically solo other then shooting undefended POS and taking credit for the victories of there overlords.
Its really funny to read back thru some of the threads in COAD to hear the goons tell it anytime theres a victory against BOB they are the cause and all you other alliances including there own masters (RA) are just along for the ride on there coat tails. LOL
Just think boys and girls, the biggest event of all was the self appointed "Destroyers of Games" the Ebil Goons had to learn to play the game the EVE way and get real allies and develop and maintain agreements with others just to stay in 0.0 :) If nothing else we should all slap ourselves on the back for making them play our game instead of there own. fofofofofofofo
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Avon
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 18:21:00 -
[362]
Edited by: Avon on 03/01/2008 18:20:58
Originally by: Aneu Angellus Edited by: Aneu Angellus on 03/01/2008 18:17:50
Originally by: Chowdown Enslaver is not my cousin Aneu
Ok i believe you, honest. Now can you get Avon to give me that screenshot please? Thanks.
I just got home and caught up with this thread.
If your amazing intel was any good whatsoever you would know why what you request would not help either one of us.
If your source has not informed you why, I suggest you get someone to apply to BNC and see what happens.
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Yussef
Amarr Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 18:21:00 -
[363]
Edited by: Yussef on 03/01/2008 18:21:39
Originally by: Ria Sotori
As with most petulant ppl they keep trying to look for holes they can spin on.... hard fact of the matter is, when the original discussions took place RA were not considered much of a factor and LV was still alive as a bufferzone on them. Goons at that point in time and even today have yet to demonstrate the ability to accomplish anything militaristically solo other then shooting undefended POS and taking credit for the victories of there overlords.
Its really funny to read back thru some of the threads in COAD to hear the goons tell it anytime theres a victory against BOB they are the cause and all you other alliances including there own masters (RA) are just along for the ride on there coat tails. LOL
Just think boys and girls, the biggest event of all was the self appointed "Destroyers of Games" the Ebil Goons had to learn to play the game the EVE way and get real allies and develop and maintain agreements with others just to stay in 0.0 :) If nothing else we should all slap ourselves on the back for making them play our game instead of there own. fofofofofofofo
It really bugs you that the peasants are winning huh?
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Galavet
Minmatar Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 18:21:00 -
[364]
Originally by: Aneu Angellus
Now now Chowdown, do we have to bring up your the cousin of a Games Master? Aneu
Alright! The real Aneu is back on the forums with his normal high level intel! I was starting to get worried...
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Aneu Angellus
Caldari DAB RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.03 18:22:00 -
[365]
Originally by: Chowdown
Originally by: Aneu Angellus Edited by: Aneu Angellus on 03/01/2008 18:17:50
Originally by: Chowdown Enslaver is not my cousin Aneu
Ok i believe you, honest. Now can you get Avon to give me that screenshot please? Thanks.
Wow that was a strange accusation, moving on Avon I am sure will do what he likes so please feel free to encourage him. You however are reasponsible for your own actions, so provide some proof for your previous statements, (even the cousin one if you like )
Ofcorse i like Chowdown, ofcorse i do. Give me time id like some impact behind it
Aneu ________________
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Nahia Senne
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 18:23:00 -
[366]
Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr Actually, yes i can. I was part of it for all of 2 weeks and it was boring. Either you lagged out and stared at a black screen for hours on end or you did nothing because there were 2 titans in system and another 3 within jump range.
Hence the not being involved.
Strange, I don't get nearly as much lag as you do. Maximum of 10 seconds on most occasions. I have to admit however that load times can be nasty when theres some 300 wrecks on the grid.
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Utterson
Chaotic Breed
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Posted - 2008.01.03 18:24:00 -
[367]
Goons get so emo about all this its really funny.
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Aneu Angellus
Caldari DAB RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.03 18:24:00 -
[368]
Originally by: Avon Edited by: Avon on 03/01/2008 18:20:58
Originally by: Aneu Angellus Edited by: Aneu Angellus on 03/01/2008 18:17:50
Originally by: Chowdown Enslaver is not my cousin Aneu
Ok i believe you, honest. Now can you get Avon to give me that screenshot please? Thanks.
I just got home and caught up with this thread.
If your amazing intel was any good whatsoever you would know why what you request would not help either one of us.
If your source has not informed you why, I suggest you get someone to apply to BNC and see what happens.
The screenshot was meant to backup your statements not mine. Its also great to see how the 'pack' mentality still works in bob. You start to hit a sore spot and they just come out of the woodwork.
Soon.
Aneu ________________
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Yussef
Amarr Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 18:25:00 -
[369]
Originally by: Utterson Goons get so emo about all this its really funny.
I'm cutting myself as I type this.
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Avon
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 18:27:00 -
[370]
Edited by: Avon on 03/01/2008 18:26:52
Originally by: Aneu Angellus
The screenshot was meant to backup your statements not mine. Its also great to see how the 'pack' mentality still works in bob. You start to hit a sore spot and they just come out of the woodwork.
Soon.
Aneu
If your intel source was any good he would have got you to ask for my eve-mail inbox, because he would have told you that is where applications would be found. You would already know that any applications made without prior approval are deleted as a matter of course.
I am starting to think that your intel sucks.
Eve-Online: The Text Adventure |
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Yussef
Amarr Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 18:28:00 -
[371]
Originally by: Avon Edited by: Avon on 03/01/2008 18:26:52
Originally by: Aneu Angellus
The screenshot was meant to backup your statements not mine. Its also great to see how the 'pack' mentality still works in bob. You start to hit a sore spot and they just come out of the woodwork.
Soon.
Aneu
If your intel source was any good he would have got you to ask for my eve-mail inbox, because he would have told you that is where applications would be found. You would already know that any applications made without prior approval are deleted as a matter of course.
I am starting to think that your intel sucks.
Yet another way BoB wins! BoB has discovered the key to ultimate victory...just change the terms when you start losing.
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Chowdown
Gallente Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 18:28:00 -
[372]
Originally by: Aneu Angellus
Originally by: Avon Edited by: Avon on 03/01/2008 18:20:58
Originally by: Aneu Angellus Edited by: Aneu Angellus on 03/01/2008 18:17:50
Originally by: Chowdown Enslaver is not my cousin Aneu
Ok i believe you, honest. Now can you get Avon to give me that screenshot please? Thanks.
I just got home and caught up with this thread.
If your amazing intel was any good whatsoever you would know why what you request would not help either one of us.
If your source has not informed you why, I suggest you get someone to apply to BNC and see what happens.
The screenshot was meant to backup your statements not mine. Its also great to see how the 'pack' mentality still works in bob. You start to hit a sore spot and they just come out of the woodwork.
Soon.
Aneu
Its only sore if it is true, your speculation though entertainly diverse and exciting has no real backing without you providing solid evidence. Until you do that you sound look like a derranged mad man on the street corner screaming out apocolyptic predicitions entertaining but ultimatley pointless.
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Kweel Nakashyn
Minmatar Aeden Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2008.01.03 18:28:00 -
[373]
So, actually, the original statement are made official (or so) ? So, basically in recruitement you are saying : "come with us, we have planned our failure for fun". And also "Dear allies, could you donate ISK to a planned lost cause ?". Again "Hahaha, we planned our loss since day -365 so we win". To me, you just pressed the autodestruct red button there.
Bob's actual new public relation say "somehow we should loose but we will be winning anyway".
TCF was outnumbered like you with more or less the same ratios. We perfectly know what kind of mechanical problems you could have (and this was fun btw. Not everyday, but was fun.). We stood from mid may 2006 to end oct 2006 if I recall correctly. At this time we never told we would win "for sure". We told "we hope we'll win but the situation is not entirelly under control". We told "gotcha, gotcha, hahaha" when we won battles and were not happy when we loose some but never something like "we're better than you, we are winning anyway".
Ask any "old" / semi-"old" TCF member what was in this campaign. There it's not seen as a victory. I have pride that we stood there all this time but never sees it as a victory. It is a failure, we grabed our stuff and came back in 0.0 npc regions, eating our hats, trying not to be asses.
Admit your pr logic is also just funny to read at first. Like ASCN's was. Or LV's was. Or any loosing side. It's now also strange when I try to understand it. But not that suprising now, since I read here and there comments about how your old pr always stated things like this : "winning anyway" (and btw, last stading winners anyway, this was true). The next step will be whines. This destroys alliances.
By judging it, it's just sound like someone who is loosing and is just blind at it. And the problem is it seems almost sincere.
To be sure that you won't reply, you admit you lost this pvp tournament, right ? Beware, a yes is admitting a loss, big one in Bob pr. And a No is just foolish, big loss in credibility. I guess then I'll be ignored, spinned down or trolled. The troll option is so 2006 so you'll want to avoid that. The spinning or the ignorance just seems to be the only option you have.
Your leaders try to prove faith there and I just hope for you now it's not stupidity or egotism. Anyway, the fun is coming right under your doors, to quote you. Black days are coming. 2isk
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Orebuster
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 18:34:00 -
[374]
Originally by: Sergeant Spot That BoB's goal is, and always has been, epic warfare, has been pretty much established.
As for other details....
--Did BoB "plan" to lose all its space?
No, and it might not happen either, but even if it does, its still just a detail within a successful plan.
--Did BoB "want" to lose all its space?
No, and it might not happen either, but even if it does, its still just a detail within a successful plan.
--Did BoB "plan or want" for the Goons to be the loud credit taking mouth for all the various foes we have?
No, but even so, its still just a detail within a successful plan.
--Did BoB "plan or want" to lose battles/space here and there between winning battles?
No, but even so, its still just a detail within a successful plan.
BoB's intent has been LONG known. Its not as if any of this is new information. Frankly, the whole thing COULD be a win/win situation for everyone involved, so long as you like epic warfare.
So, no matter what happens, it is still just a detail within a successful plan.
"Hey guys, our plan is to play Eve, whether in space or station simulator. We will maintain a subscription! As long as we pay a monthly subscription fee, we're winning!"
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Darko1107
Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2008.01.03 18:38:00 -
[375]
Tbh, people who think that BoB didnt want this need only look at serenity steels outpost rankings. BoB have lost dozens of stations, vast numbers of caps and even some super caps, they have lost however many regions and however many friends.
But how many members have they lost? Practically none. That little white graph has stood firm and strong.
Whether they thought they were guna lose thier space or not is another matter, but really, its not important, because once they lose it all, they are just guna find somewhere else to have fun.
What else can they do? Hands up who would accept a BoB corp into thier Alliance? Eve has practically forced them together, and together, they shall always be.
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Moctobot
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 18:39:00 -
[376]
Originally by: Avon
Originally by: Moctobot
this successful plan of yours doesnt seem to depend much on success which to me is odd but w/e
But you can't win Eve, that's kinda the point. Ultimately there is no success to be had.
All you can do is play the game in a way that brings you fun and entertainment.
I really thought you guys "got" Eve?
this post is like the end of the 80s movie sensation 'wargames' starring matthew broderick
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Moctobot
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 18:41:00 -
[377]
Originally by: Darko1107 Tbh, people who think that BoB didnt want this need only look at serenity steels outpost rankings.
these have not been updated since goonswarm became the number 1 ranked alliance (2 weeks ago)
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Yussef
Amarr Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 18:41:00 -
[378]
Originally by: Moctobot
Originally by: Avon
Originally by: Moctobot
this successful plan of yours doesnt seem to depend much on success which to me is odd but w/e
But you can't win Eve, that's kinda the point. Ultimately there is no success to be had.
All you can do is play the game in a way that brings you fun and entertainment.
I really thought you guys "got" Eve?
this post is like the end of the 80s movie sensation 'wargames' starring matthew broderick
W.H.O.P.P.E.R. understands why can't you?
Originally by: Sergeant Spot --Did BoB "plan" to lose all its space? No, and it might not happen either, but even if it does, its still just a detail within a success
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Darko1107
Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2008.01.03 18:42:00 -
[379]
Edited by: Darko1107 on 03/01/2008 18:42:43
Originally by: Moctobot
Originally by: Darko1107 Tbh, people who think that BoB didnt want this need only look at serenity steels outpost rankings.
these have not been updated since goonswarm became the number 1 ranked alliance (2 weeks ago)
Yeh i know Goons should be number 1 after BoB lost another bajillion stations, but you can still compare the unupdated pos/outpost levels to member levels.
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Powder
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 18:45:00 -
[380]
Originally by: DoctorGonzo The video in the op is rubbish, I much prefer the one where he loses his Raven passed out at the keyboard. It's much funnier and more relevant if you know that man. Was it Mafia way back in 2004/05?
was candy and the miami vice crew, and 2004 sounds about right to me
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snerdly
snerd LTD
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Posted - 2008.01.03 18:46:00 -
[381]
Goddamn, I go eat lunch and this thread jumps two pages... And you know what?
No one has bothered to respond to my post. The only response I got was from Avon, and was rather idiotic, to be honest. I just want a response. If someone from BoB would respond rationally, I'd really appreciate it.
My respect for you is at stake (OK, not really, I don't have any respect for you. I would appreciate it, though)
Here, lemme quote.
Originally by: snerdly Hi there BoB.
I suppose that is has been established that there was some sort of plan. What sort of plan? Very simple. The extent of the plan, it seems, was to get a large percentage of EVE against BoB.
That was the plan. The fact that is was predicted that BoB might have to fall back to Delve is irrelevant; that was realism talking. Your goal never was, and still is not, to fall back to Delve. Your goal was simply to get a large percentage of EVE against you.
What was this 'plan'? Well, it wasn't much of anything actually... Just keep acting aggressive and keep saying things like 'we want to take over the universe'. IN other words, just keep being BoB. (And no, being arrogant pr1cks wasn't part of the plan. You' act like arrogant pr1cks because you are arrogant pr1cks)
So, at the start of this war, your plan came to fruition. A large percentage of EVE was against you. You entered into the most epic fight EVE has ever seen. At this point, you did not know if you would win, or if you would lose. You did not know if you were end up defending your fortreses to the last, or smashing down the enemy's gates. You fought your hardest, and expected your allies to do the same. Turns out you're going to lose.
So. We win, you lose. Nothing about this plan changes that fact. Nothing about this plan should change anything about the victory the coalition is achieving.
Yes, you're rolling it out now as damage control. No, it doesn't matter.
Yes, I am ****ed. Yes, I am still rational. Answer.
Originally by: Securion Wolfheart
EVE might never again see such a good alliance as the one you are about to kill off, with the help of the rest of the scum and trash you have pulled together against BOB. |
Moctobot
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 18:46:00 -
[382]
Originally by: Darko1107 Edited by: Darko1107 on 03/01/2008 18:42:43
Originally by: Moctobot
Originally by: Darko1107 Tbh, people who think that BoB didnt want this need only look at serenity steels outpost rankings.
these have not been updated since goonswarm became the number 1 ranked alliance (2 weeks ago)
Yeh i know Goons should be number 1 after BoB lost another bajillion stations, but you can still compare the unupdated pos/outpost levels to member levels.
by killing off all of bobs pets we flooded them with the applications of said pets
they have acccepted several - i am not sure what point you are trying to make
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Hitme Harder
HERRO KITTY
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Posted - 2008.01.03 18:49:00 -
[383]
wow this thread is really bitter, hopped waaay too long
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Nlewis
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 18:49:00 -
[384]
how convenient
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Vanki Stormchaser
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 18:57:00 -
[385]
The only plan bob can reasonably claim is to troll goons on caod by pretending to be da PuPpEtMaStA
It's working well. There's no way the stuff they're saying is in earnest. It's too ridiculous.
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Yussef
Amarr Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 18:59:00 -
[386]
Edited by: Yussef on 03/01/2008 18:59:48 Control Freak
In psychology-related slang, control freak is a derogatory term for a person who attempts to impose excessive predictability and direction on others or on events, often associated with insecurity or a lack of trust. Frequently, a person labeled a "control freak" has a position of authority or superiority in a relationship; however, the person's obsessiveness extends beyond the acceptable range of control.
I believe what BoB really needs is a hug.
Originally by: Sergeant Spot --Did BoB "plan" to lose all its space? No, and it might not happen either, but even if it does, its still just a detail within a success
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Marmalade Joe
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 19:00:00 -
[387]
Seeing Chowdown defend Bob's not (really) helping LV when it was collapsing itt is pretty funny.
The rest of the thread, though. :cripes:
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Moctobot
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 19:01:00 -
[388]
*moderated*
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Danyael Tyren
Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 19:03:00 -
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EvE end-game is about taking and holding 0.0 Space, and the ensuing conflicts. If your conditions for winning at EvE do not include that, you are losing. Pretending otherwise just makes you look sad and desperate.
Pretending that you have perfectly engineered spectacular losses of vast swathes of space in order to make PvP more convenient for yourself is just silly and ridiculous. If you really wanted a fight, there were three different regions, stocked with former pets and infrastructure that would have gotten you precisely that.
I will tell you what happened to BoB. Time passed them by. Goons went from the horde of T1 frig, bookmark bombing noobs, to a vast horde of Capitals, T2 Snipers, and nano-hac gangs, backed by the likes of RA/TCF. The writing is on the wall where anyone willing or able to look can see.
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Nlewis
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 19:04:00 -
[390]
thread redeemed
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Yussef
Amarr Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 19:06:00 -
[391]
Originally by: Danyael Tyren EvE end-game is about taking and holding 0.0 Space, and the ensuing conflicts. If your conditions for winning at EvE do not include that, you are losing. Pretending otherwise just makes you look sad and desperate.
Pretending that you have perfectly engineered spectacular losses of vast swathes of space in order to make PvP more convenient for yourself is just silly and ridiculous. If you really wanted a fight, there were three different regions, stocked with former pets and infrastructure that would have gotten you precisely that.
I will tell you what happened to BoB. Time passed them by. Goons went from the horde of T1 frig, bookmark bombing noobs, to a vast horde of Capitals, T2 Snipers, and nano-hac gangs, backed by the likes of RA/TCF. The writing is on the wall where anyone willing or able to look can see.
Your response is totally a part of BoBs master plan.
Originally by: Sergeant Spot --Did BoB "plan" to lose all its space? No, and it might not happen either, but even if it does, its still just a detail within a success
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FireAnt
Caldari Wings of the Storm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 19:19:00 -
[392]
Originally by: TrevorReznik if you want good fights come try and kill goon online larges, something bob is hilariously bad at doing, even prior to the titan nerf
but that might end up with losing a fight can't have that :((((
I dont think you get EVE.
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Darkrydar
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 19:21:00 -
[393]
Originally by: Aneu Angellus
You claim to have played goons, your the ones loosing space, you claim to be right where you want to be, yet internally your command staff have issued hushed orders to 'trusted' members to bring more of their alts into the alliance so that the drop in membership wouldnÆt be noticed.
Aneu
Lol, wtf is this? This is probably the single dumbest line in this whole thread (so far). I honestly don't know how you can even make this stuff up.
Then again, I shouldn't be suprised. You're mr fake cap II bpo and mr missing moo battleship losses guy. Honestly, you should stick to posting with your alts as they have more credibility than your main does.
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Martinez
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 19:25:00 -
[394]
Originally by: Gnulpie
Originally by: Martinez that is just goon running off at the mouth with their talking points. yes we know bob is dead, there are no real bob members left. anyone that joined after 2005 is a worthless wannabe. yeah yeah yeah we have heard it. Oddly though 4 out of 5 fights we loot the field no matter what the odds against us are. Truth hurts.
Indeed it is true that BoB wins most of the fleet battles. I don't know if it is 80% or 70% or 90%. But they win by far more fleet battles than they lose.
The really amazing thing is, that they still lose region after region despite these good numbers. Maybe the BoB HC should think about if they fight the right battles and not just some unimportant ones which maybe boost the morale and KBs but doesn't help on the grander scheme.
Have you read any of this thread?
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Cvuos
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 19:25:00 -
[395]
Originally by: Marmalade Joe Seeing Chowdown defend Bob's not (really) helping LV when it was collapsing itt is pretty funny.
Yeah, isn't it funny? Almost like he set up his LV treason long before they actually fell. Just quietly moved his assets out, got the spare keys for the titan and stopped logging on for a while.
"oops we got bandwagoned soz m8s don't worry we will roam freely without pos shackles and kill goons I promise just hang tite" *steals titan* *joins BoB*
LV leadership was one of the most treasonous in game, they absolutely reamed their members (apart from finfleet). BoB knows this and none of them will get any serious leadership responsibilites.
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Will Hunter
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 19:31:00 -
[396]
Originally by: FireAnt
Originally by: TrevorReznik if you want good fights come try and kill goon online larges, something bob is hilariously bad at doing, even prior to the titan nerf
but that might end up with losing a fight can't have that :((((
I dont think you get EVE.
bob does, thats why they had to lost 7 regions to get pvp, after all it was imposible to get it in one of those said regions.
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eddie stobartian
Minmatar Rogue Technologies
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Posted - 2008.01.03 19:32:00 -
[397]
Just give BoB all there regions and stations back and go mine in empire... that should stick a rather large spanner in there grand plan
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Moon Kitten
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 19:35:00 -
[398]
Reverse psychology doesn't always work.
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Darkrydar
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 19:42:00 -
[399]
Originally by: Aneu Angellus
Originally by: Chowdown Edited by: Chowdown on 03/01/2008 18:12:09
Originally by: Aneu Angellus Holy crap Hilarious GM statement
I am what? Proof for any of these statements would be great
You know exactly what im talking about
The only thing worse than your posts is that sig. I bet your directors cringed the day you got unbanned.
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Hannobaal
Gallente Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 19:43:00 -
[400]
The ridiculous (and just incredibly bad) propaganda aside...
I don't really care what BoB want, planned, or enjoy. I just want them wiped out and dead as an alliance and I want to be a part (though very small) of making that happen. That's my goal in Eve at the moment.
I predict this thread will be useful for quotes for countless Goon "rubbing it in and kicking them when they're down" threads in CAOD once BoB have disbanded and evacuated to empire space though.
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Amerame
Section XIII
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Posted - 2008.01.03 19:48:00 -
[401]
I wonder if declaring "We're playing to lose" is such a great idea, for your allies and your alliance. The reason why BoB isn't bleeding members, yet, is because GBC's shrinking faster than you can say "failure cascade" and BoB's getting a few refugees from every alliance that bite the dust but now that BoB's been running out of allies completely, it might be somewhat different.
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Darkrydar
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 19:48:00 -
[402]
Originally by: snerdly Goddamn, I go eat lunch and this thread jumps two pages... And you know what?
No one has bothered to respond to my post. The only response I got was from Avon, and was rather idiotic, to be honest. I just want a response. If someone from BoB would respond rationally, I'd really appreciate it.
My respect for you is at stake (OK, not really, I don't have any respect for you. I would appreciate it, though)
Here, lemme quote.
Originally by: snerdly Hi there BoB.
I suppose that is has been established that there was some sort of plan. What sort of plan? Very simple. The extent of the plan, it seems, was to get a large percentage of EVE against BoB.
That was the plan. The fact that is was predicted that BoB might have to fall back to Delve is irrelevant; that was realism talking. Your goal never was, and still is not, to fall back to Delve. Your goal was simply to get a large percentage of EVE against you.
What was this 'plan'? Well, it wasn't much of anything actually... Just keep acting aggressive and keep saying things like 'we want to take over the universe'. IN other words, just keep being BoB. (And no, being arrogant pr1cks wasn't part of the plan. You' act like arrogant pr1cks because you are arrogant pr1cks)
So, at the start of this war, your plan came to fruition. A large percentage of EVE was against you. You entered into the most epic fight EVE has ever seen. At this point, you did not know if you would win, or if you would lose. You did not know if you were end up defending your fortreses to the last, or smashing down the enemy's gates. You fought your hardest, and expected your allies to do the same. Turns out you're going to lose.
So. We win, you lose. Nothing about this plan changes that fact. Nothing about this plan should change anything about the victory the coalition is achieving.
Yes, you're rolling it out now as damage control. No, it doesn't matter.
Yes, I am ****ed. Yes, I am still rational. Answer.
If you want answers to a real question, post with your main and I'll do my best to give you an answer. The fact that cowards like you hide behind alts is why CAOD has become utter crap.
If you believe what you post, use your main not some craptastic alt.
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Deathwings Oracle
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 19:49:00 -
[403]
Why is it no one can believe that BoB wanted a fight like this But it's totally believable that MC has us right where they want us by having us in PB and not undocking to fight us
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snerdly
snerd LTD
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Posted - 2008.01.03 19:50:00 -
[404]
Edited by: snerdly on 03/01/2008 19:53:10
Originally by: Darkrydar
If you want answers to a real question, post with your main and I'll do my best to give you an answer. The fact that cowards like you hide behind alts is why CAOD has become utter crap.
If you believe what you post, use your main not some craptastic alt.
That doesn't make any ******* sense. If the alt is posting rationally with a logical, reasoned question, how is he ****ting up CAOD?
GJ avoiding the question though.
(and if you must know, my main is in a noobcorp atm. Ergo, his posts would be removed.)
Originally by: Securion Wolfheart
EVE might never again see such a good alliance as the one you are about to kill off, with the help of the rest of the scum and trash you have pulled together against BOB. |
Darkrydar
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 19:55:00 -
[405]
Honest question:
Does anyone expect BOB to fold even if you take all the stations in Delve?
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Moctobot
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 19:56:00 -
[406]
Originally by: Deathwings Oracle Why is it no one can believe that BoB wanted a fight like this But it's totally believable that MC has us right where they want us by having us in PB and not undocking to fight us
if your diplomats were not complete prats you would not be camping in pb while querious and delve fall - why dont you come fight us if you just want fights
we have not seen a stand up fight from bob since 9-9 by my memory
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eddie stobartian
Minmatar Rogue Technologies
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Posted - 2008.01.03 19:58:00 -
[407]
Originally by: Darkrydar Honest question:
Does anyone expect BOB to fold even if you take all the stations in Delve?
it does'nt matter what people think will happen..... you will just claim it was your plan to fold as discussed at a bbq in 2006!
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Hannobaal
Gallente Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 19:59:00 -
[408]
Edited by: Hannobaal on 03/01/2008 19:59:28
Originally by: Deathwings Oracle Why is it no one can believe that BoB wanted a fight like this
Well, aside from the ridiculous "we meant to lose almost all our space and have the vast majority of 0.0 alliances gather around to gang-*****our sorry asses back to empire, we really did" part, the part about "now we get a lot of good fights" kind of kills it. Anyone who has fought you guys knows better.
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Darko1107
Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2008.01.03 19:59:00 -
[409]
Originally by: Moctobot
Originally by: Darko1107 Edited by: Darko1107 on 03/01/2008 18:42:43
Originally by: Moctobot
Originally by: Darko1107 Tbh, people who think that BoB didnt want this need only look at serenity steels outpost rankings.
these have not been updated since goonswarm became the number 1 ranked alliance (2 weeks ago)
Yeh i know Goons should be number 1 after BoB lost another bajillion stations, but you can still compare the unupdated pos/outpost levels to member levels.
by killing off all of bobs pets we flooded them with the applications of said pets
they have acccepted several - i am not sure what point you are trying to make
My pt is that practically any other alliance in BoB's position would have lost alot of thier player base by now.
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Moctobot
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 20:01:00 -
[410]
Originally by: Darkrydar Honest question:
Does anyone expect BOB to fold even if you take all the stations in Delve?
yes - but you will pull some sort of 'hahaha npc stations' card and your next move is to casually mention that freed from the shackles of owning space you will become our worst nightmares
ask every other corp who has said that how that has worked out for them - one day fnln is going to own your alliance name
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Darkrydar
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 20:01:00 -
[411]
Originally by: snerdly
That doesn't make any ******* sense. If the alt is posting rationally with a logical, reasoned question, how is he ****ting up CAOD?
Simple really, if you are afraid to stake your reputation on the words you write on some Internet spaceship forums your opinions, thoughts or questions are worthless. If you lack the courage of your convictions you don't deserve answers by those who do.
I didn't avoid your question. I point blank said I won't converse on a serious level with a cowardly flame alt, created only to circumvent the rules of this forum.
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Victor Vision
Central Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2008.01.03 20:02:00 -
[412]
Originally by: snerdly Edited by: snerdly on 03/01/2008 19:53:10
Originally by: Darkrydar
If you want answers to a real question, post with your main and I'll do my best to give you an answer. The fact that cowards like you hide behind alts is why CAOD has become utter crap.
If you believe what you post, use your main not some craptastic alt.
That doesn't make any ******* sense. If the alt is posting rationally with a logical, reasoned question, how is he ****ting up CAOD?
GJ avoiding the question though.
(and if you must know, my main is in a noobcorp atm. Ergo, his posts would be removed.)
snerdly, your post did get a response.
Here it is. Written by Sergeant Spot of Black Eclipse Corp in the Band of Brothers.
However, this response was found amusing by many. Including myself.
EVE War I-The Beginning - EVE History Wiki |
Deathwings Oracle
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 20:02:00 -
[413]
Originally by: Hannobaal Edited by: Hannobaal on 03/01/2008 19:59:28
Originally by: Deathwings Oracle Why is it no one can believe that BoB wanted a fight like this
Well, aside from the ridiculous "we meant to lose almost all our space and have the vast majority of 0.0 alliances gather around to gang-*****our sorry asses back to empire, we really did" part, the part about "now we get a lot of good fights" kind of kills it. Anyone who has fought you guys knows better.
Can you answer the second half of my post now to pls? Or do you not have an answer for that
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Cvuos
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 20:02:00 -
[414]
Originally by: Deathwings Oracle Why is it no one can believe that BoB wanted a fight like this But it's totally believable that MC has us right where they want us by having us in PB and not undocking to fight us
1. Nobody belieevs you've taken the region losses as lightly as you pretend. But then again EVERYONE which has lost a region always tries to play it down, hence even more unlikely.
We all know you want to shoot things, but we also know how desperately you want to win and how hard your egos are hit when, amongst many others, goons who are terrible at Eve beat you. You couldn't possibly admit that, so you have to redefine the goals, shrug of the losses and pretend some other goal has been in your sights all along.
Even when you were pos spamming and some poor directors had to anchor and fuel them all. Even when you bridged out pets and lost four freighters at a friendly pos under Shrike's nose. Even when you took cap losses. Even when you arranged for relocations to Fountain. Even when you pushed for Catch, then left MC hanging out to dry. Even when you cried on MC for finally backstabbing you. Even after all those horrible fractured plans of Molle to leave tasks half done and go ride bikes with some other foe.
Sure. All part of the plan. Then when things change and you readapt, that was part of the plan too. You've been doing this "we're best so we're always correct" for over 2 years on these forums and the BS has offically been called forever. Posture if you will, but nobody believes you. Besides, most of your achievements are false anyway.
2. MC needs to step up though, not impressed by their efforts. I guess Tortuga refers to drawing yourself into a shell and staying there.
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Moctobot
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 20:03:00 -
[415]
Originally by: Darkrydar if you are afraid to stake your reputation on the words you write on some Internet spaceship forums your opinions, thoughts or questions are worthless. If you lack the courage of your convictions you don't deserve answers by those who do.
MY REPUTATION
god i love this thread
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Shamis Orzoz
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.01.03 20:03:00 -
[416]
Originally by: Darkrydar Honest question:
Does anyone expect BOB to fold even if you take all the stations in Delve?
No. But I do expect a large percentage of the alliance to leave. The numbers have been padded quite a bit by people who want to be in bob just so they can own people. Once omnipotence itself is diminished...then I expect they'll be back to a core group of members who actually like a challenge. They'll retreat to empire, wait for the coalition to fall apart, and then strike out against some crappy 0.0 alliance and regain some space. Then perhaps the cycle will begin again. But that'll take a while.
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Darkrydar
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 20:03:00 -
[417]
Originally by: eddie stobartian
Originally by: Darkrydar Honest question:
Does anyone expect BOB to fold even if you take all the stations in Delve?
it does'nt matter what people think will happen..... you will just claim it was your plan to fold as discussed at a bbq in 2006!
Couldn't even post that with a real character?
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Martin VanBuren
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 20:05:00 -
[418]
Originally by: Darkrydar Honest question:
Does anyone expect BOB to fold even if you take all the stations in Delve?
Yes.
When you strip away the massive territory and megalomaniacal style from BoB you're left with just another unhappy bunch of guys flying gangs of 20 faction fit vagabonds around low-sec looking for ratting brutixes.
But you folks just keep on telling yourselves whatever it is you need to, I'll see you in Amamake!
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Darkrydar
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 20:05:00 -
[419]
Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
Originally by: Darkrydar Honest question:
Does anyone expect BOB to fold even if you take all the stations in Delve?
No. But I do expect a large percentage of the alliance to leave. The numbers have been padded quite a bit by people who want to be in bob just so they can own people. Once omnipotence itself is diminished...then I expect they'll be back to a core group of members who actually like a challenge.
I thought we we're already losing, so wouldn't these people be leaving or not logging in?
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Hannobaal
Gallente Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 20:06:00 -
[420]
Edited by: Hannobaal on 03/01/2008 20:07:38
Originally by: Deathwings Oracle
Originally by: Hannobaal Edited by: Hannobaal on 03/01/2008 19:59:28
Originally by: Deathwings Oracle Why is it no one can believe that BoB wanted a fight like this
Well, aside from the ridiculous "we meant to lose almost all our space and have the vast majority of 0.0 alliances gather around to gang-*****our sorry asses back to empire, we really did" part, the part about "now we get a lot of good fights" kind of kills it. Anyone who has fought you guys knows better.
Can you answer the second half of my post now to pls? Or do you not have an answer for that
You mean how your alliance leader has, for reasons of silly pride, concentrated your efforts on the absolutely least strategically important of the 4 fronts, thus allowing for the other fronts to collapse (including your last remaining reasonably sizable ally) which will eventually force you back into Delve to defend your last remaing space and render any and all gains you manage to make in Period Basis completely meaningless?
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Swamp Ziro
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 20:06:00 -
[421]
Originally by: Moctobot one day fnln is going to own your alliance name
hahahah
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snerdly
snerd LTD
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Posted - 2008.01.03 20:07:00 -
[422]
Originally by: Victor Vision
snerdly, your post did get a response.
Here it is. Written by Sergeant Spot of Black Eclipse Corp in the Band of Brothers.
However, this response was found amusing by many. Including myself.
Ah, yes. Must have missed that. I do agree with you though, that post is hilarious.
Effectively, he's just repeating the elements of BoB's current attempt at propaganda that I called bull**** on. Huzzah!
OK, I'm really leaving now. cyas.
Originally by: Securion Wolfheart
EVE might never again see such a good alliance as the one you are about to kill off, with the help of the rest of the scum and trash you have pulled together against BOB. |
Deathwings Oracle
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 20:08:00 -
[423]
Originally by: Cvuos Besides, most of your achievements are false anyway.
Yes, CCP gave us all those regions, didn't you read the patch notes? Thats why we don't care if we loose them
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Darkrydar
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 20:08:00 -
[424]
Originally by: Martin VanBuren
Originally by: Darkrydar Honest question:
Does anyone expect BOB to fold even if you take all the stations in Delve?
Yes.
When you strip away the massive territory and megalomaniacal style from BoB you're left with just another unhappy bunch of guys flying gangs of 20 faction fit vagabonds around low-sec looking for ratting brutixes.
But you folks just keep on telling yourselves whatever it is you need to, I'll see you in Amamake!
Damn dude, if you seriously believe that you'll really be disapointed. The again, maybe you're not serious.
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Moctobot
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 20:11:00 -
[425]
Edited by: Moctobot on 03/01/2008 20:12:15
Originally by: Darkrydar
Originally by: Martin VanBuren
Originally by: Darkrydar Honest question:
Does anyone expect BOB to fold even if you take all the stations in Delve?
Yes.
When you strip away the massive territory and megalomaniacal style from BoB you're left with just another unhappy bunch of guys flying gangs of 20 faction fit vagabonds around low-sec looking for ratting brutixes.
But you folks just keep on telling yourselves whatever it is you need to, I'll see you in Amamake!
Damn dude, if you seriously believe that you'll really be disapointed. The again, maybe you're not serious.
now you tell me why you guys are any different than
every.other.alliance.that.has.lost
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Swamp Ziro
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 20:12:00 -
[426]
Originally by: Darkrydar
Originally by: Martin VanBuren
Originally by: Darkrydar Honest question:
Does anyone expect BOB to fold even if you take all the stations in Delve?
Yes.
When you strip away the massive territory and megalomaniacal style from BoB you're left with just another unhappy bunch of guys flying gangs of 20 faction fit vagabonds around low-sec looking for ratting brutixes.
But you folks just keep on telling yourselves whatever it is you need to, I'll see you in Amamake!
Damn dude, if you seriously believe that you'll really be disapointed. The again, maybe you're not serious.
He has heard the same old line from every other alliance he's fought and destroyed, why wouldn't he be serious? I mean ok, you guys are better than RISE and CORM, agreed, but there's only so many times you can hear about the alamo/sparta, then watch the same alliances disband 10 days after the last POS falls, before you stop believing it.
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Itzena
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 20:15:00 -
[427]
Originally by: Kaylana Syi Why don't you guys actually kick BoB out and stop trying to make it sound like BoB didn't want such an epic fight. Kick them out and let the chips fall where they land. Quite honestly, for all the double talk and forum posturing of RSF+NewNorth you sound like LV once did here on these very same forums when talking about RA's demise. RA/-A- isn't the only people capable of appreciating The Saint War.
Hey Kaylana - have you actually, you know, looked at the sovereignty maps since you got kicked out of IAC?
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Darkrydar
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 20:16:00 -
[428]
Edited by: Darkrydar on 03/01/2008 20:17:55
Originally by: Moctobot
now you tell me why you guys are any different than
every.other.alliance.that.lost
For one thing, BOB is a small number of large corporations. Corporations build around warfare. We as a whole don't have different interest blocks in the alliance causing internal issues that arise when under pressure. We actually enjoy flying with other bob members and really don't look at our individual corporate identities.
edit: removed pyramid part of post
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DoctorGonzo
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 20:17:00 -
[429]
Originally by: Moctobot now you tell me why you guys are any different than
every.other.alliance.that.has.lost
Because we're not every other alliance - we've been setting the agenda in 0.0 for 3+ years. You goons just don't 'get' BoB do you.
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NeVeH
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.01.03 20:18:00 -
[430]
Originally by: Sergeant Spot Edited by: Sergeant Spot on 03/01/2008 18:33:27 That BoB's goal is, and always has been, epic warfare, has been pretty much established.
As for other details....
--Did BoB "plan" to lose all its space?
No, and it might not happen either, but even if it does, its still just a detail within a successful plan.
--Did BoB "want" to lose all its space?
No, and it might not happen either, but even if it does, its still just a detail within a successful plan.
--Did BoB "plan or want" for the Goons to be the loud credit taking mouth for all the various foes we have?
No, but even so, its still just a detail within a successful plan.
--Did BoB "plan or want" to lose battles/space here and there between winning battles?
No, but even so, its still just a detail within a successful plan.
BoB's intent has been LONG known. Its not as if any of this is new information. Frankly, the whole thing COULD be a win/win situation for everyone involved, so long as you like epic warfare.
Edit: So say I, @VonSpot, senior member the Mankind @Alliance, Foe of Mordor. Many of us in BoB have a LONG history of brutal 'lay it on the line' epic warfare that pre-dates even Eve.
Sounds like you guys really sold yourself short considering the real challenge is winning a war, not starting one. Any moron can start one.... Look at KOS
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NATMav
F.R.E.E. Explorer Atrum Tempestas Foedus
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Posted - 2008.01.03 20:22:00 -
[431]
Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr Finfleet wern't in BoB on Monday, 25 December 2006.
Don't you see? They planned the demise of LV too!
And RISE and CORM and ISS and -Y- and FIX
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Avon
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 20:23:00 -
[432]
Originally by: Hannobaal You mean how your alliance leader has, for reasons of silly pride, concentrated your efforts on the absolutely least strategically important of the 4 fronts, thus allowing for the other fronts to collapse (including your last remaining reasonably sizable ally) which will eventually force you back into Delve to defend your last remaing space and render any and all gains you manage to make in Period Basis completely meaningless?
Hey, it's just where the fun fights are right now. If the fun fights dry up, or you guys actually *do* something meaningful, then I guess we'll give you a little of the attention so so dearly crave.
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Erik Amirault
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 20:23:00 -
[433]
Originally by: DoctorGonzo
Originally by: Moctobot now you tell me why you guys are any different than
every.other.alliance.that.has.lost
Because we're not every other alliance - we've been setting the agenda in 0.0 for 3+ years. You goons just don't 'get' BoB do you.
Must suck to lose without even really putting up much of a fight, huh? I mean, not since May that is. Maybe your efforts will be a footnote in some gamer magazine the next time they upgrade graphics in Eve.
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Hannobaal
Gallente Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 20:24:00 -
[434]
Originally by: Darkrydar
Originally by: Swamp Ziro
He has heard the same old line from every other alliance he's fought and destroyed, why wouldn't he be serious? I mean ok, you guys are better than RISE and CORM, agreed, but there's only so many times you can hear about the alamo/sparta, then watch the same alliances disband 10 days after the last POS falls, before you stop believing it.
Ok, I can understand that. But, do you really think BOB is anything like other alliances you've removed?
You're not as special as you think you are.
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Avon
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 20:25:00 -
[435]
Originally by: Hannobaal
You're not as special as you think you are.
It is just a different kind of special than the type you are used to being called.
Eve-Online: The Text Adventure |
Darkrydar
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 20:25:00 -
[436]
Originally by: Hannobaal
Originally by: Darkrydar
Originally by: Swamp Ziro
He has heard the same old line from every other alliance he's fought and destroyed, why wouldn't he be serious? I mean ok, you guys are better than RISE and CORM, agreed, but there's only so many times you can hear about the alamo/sparta, then watch the same alliances disband 10 days after the last POS falls, before you stop believing it.
Ok, I can understand that. But, do you really think BOB is anything like other alliances you've removed?
You're not as special as you think you are.
I guess future eve players will be the judge of that, not you or I.
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Cvuos
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 20:27:00 -
[437]
Originally by: DoctorGonzo
Because we're not every other alliance
But you behave exactly like every other dying alliance with your freed pos shackles and your redefined goals and your "we only want fun anyway" loss justifications. If it smacks like a duck, loses poses like a duck, redefines goals like a duck....
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Deathwings Oracle
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 20:28:00 -
[438]
Originally by: Nlewis Edited by: Nlewis on 03/01/2008 20:20:55
Originally by: Deathwings Oracle
Originally by: Cvuos Besides, most of your achievements are false anyway.
Yes, CCP gave us all those regions, didn't you read the patch notes? Thats why we don't care if we loose them
they apparently didn't tell you the difference between lose and loose either.
i.e. your mother is loose
You know your the upper echelon of CAOD when your retorts have been reduced to picking on a spelling mistake and making "your mother" jokes
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Hannobaal
Gallente Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 20:28:00 -
[439]
Originally by: Avon
Originally by: Hannobaal
You're not as special as you think you are.
It is just a different kind of special than the type you are used to being called.
So you're saying BoB are ********?
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Darcuese
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 20:29:00 -
[440]
Edited by: Darcuese on 03/01/2008 20:30:01
One thing that i like the most is...
....even though there are thousands of posts by some individuals over and over again.....their name just cant be memorized.
Makes me bit sad
EDIT: Hmm, thing i like most make me sad as well? Hmm. Am i mazzo type of person? me, myself and I ------> |
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Swamp Ziro
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 20:29:00 -
[441]
Originally by: Deathwings Oracle
Originally by: Nlewis Edited by: Nlewis on 03/01/2008 20:20:55
Originally by: Deathwings Oracle
Originally by: Cvuos Besides, most of your achievements are false anyway.
Yes, CCP gave us all those regions, didn't you read the patch notes? Thats why we don't care if we loose them
they apparently didn't tell you the difference between lose and loose either.
i.e. your mother is loose
You know your the upper echelon of CAOD when your retorts have been reduced to picking on a spelling mistake and making "your mother" jokes
you're :eng101:
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Avon
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 20:30:00 -
[442]
Originally by: Cvuos
But you behave exactly like every other dying alliance with your freed pos shackles and your redefined goals and your "we only want fun anyway" loss justifications. If it smacks like a duck, loses poses like a duck, redefines goals like a duck....
We should probably consider your words carefully, what with GoonSwarm being the voice of experience in these matters.
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Kyrie Elaison
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2008.01.03 20:31:00 -
[443]
For the record, "we actively planned to lose massively in the name of pew pew" sounds far more pathetic than "we didn't want that x anyway." Just sayin.
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Swamp Ziro
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 20:33:00 -
[444]
Originally by: Darcuese Edited by: Darcuese on 03/01/2008 20:30:01
One thing that i like the most is...
....even though there are thousands of posts by some individuals over and over again.....their name just cant be memorized.
Makes me bit sad
EDIT: Hmm, thing i like most make me sad as well? Hmm. Am i mazzo type of person?
do you know how important i am on the internet?!
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TWD
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 20:33:00 -
[445]
Originally by: Kyrie Elaison For the record, "we actively planned to lose massively in the name of pew pew" sounds far more pathetic than "we didn't want that x anyway." Just sayin.
I don't know, I always thought that winning was reaching your objectives.
Looks like the objective of getting everyone to attack Delve is reached :[ |
Darcuese
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 20:33:00 -
[446]
Ah,yes....at least some of my posts are quoted by Mittani.
Does that make me special? me, myself and I ------> |
Pat McCrotch
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Posted - 2008.01.03 20:34:00 -
[447]
Originally by: Swamp Ziro
you're :eng101:
ur :SA101: |
mama guru
Gallente Corp 1 Allstars Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.01.03 20:36:00 -
[448]
Edited by: mama guru on 03/01/2008 20:36:02
Originally by: TWD
Originally by: Kyrie Elaison For the record, "we actively planned to lose massively in the name of pew pew" sounds far more pathetic than "we didn't want that x anyway." Just sayin.
I don't know, I always thought that winning was reaching your objectives.
Looks like the objective of getting everyone to attack Delve is reached :[
So by your logic shooting yourself in the foot and claiming good game is winning?
If thats the case then you need to rework your overall strategic layout of the planned events.
Thoraxes
*signature removed - please email us to find out why (include a link) - Jacques([email protected]) EVE is like the "Fisherman's Friend" of MMOs. If it's too hard, you are too weak. |
TWD
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 20:36:00 -
[449]
Originally by: mama guru
.. Thoraxes
fu! |
Bone Collector44
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 20:37:00 -
[450]
Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
The full invasion force is not yet in delve. They'll start disappearing a week or two after that.
You mean all of our carebears? Seriously, I dont think you get it...
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Avon
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 20:37:00 -
[451]
Originally by: TWD
Originally by: mama guru
.. Thoraxes
fu!
Sry TWD, but it was funny.
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Cvuos
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 20:40:00 -
[452]
Originally by: Avon
Originally by: Cvuos
But you behave exactly like every other dying alliance with your freed pos shackles and your redefined goals and your "we only want fun anyway" loss justifications. If it smacks like a duck, loses poses like a duck, redefines goals like a duck....
We should probably consider your words carefully, what with GoonSwarm being the voice of experience in these matters.
Yes, we have a lot of experience in killing alliances.
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Vanessa LaiDai
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 20:41:00 -
[453]
Originally by: Avon
Originally by: Cvuos
But you behave exactly like every other dying alliance with your freed pos shackles and your redefined goals and your "we only want fun anyway" loss justifications. If it smacks like a duck, loses poses like a duck, redefines goals like a duck....
We should probably consider your words carefully, what with GoonSwarm being the voice of experience in these matters.
Yeah cause we didn't experience the downfall of very many alliances ever since we moved down south.
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Teldi Beinew
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 20:44:00 -
[454]
Originally by: Darkrydar Ok, I can understand that. But, do you really think BOB is anything like other alliances you've removed?
its membership roster certainly seems to be similar
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Nlewis
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 20:44:00 -
[455]
Originally by: Deathwings Oracle
Originally by: Nlewis Edited by: Nlewis on 03/01/2008 20:20:55
Originally by: Deathwings Oracle
Originally by: Cvuos Besides, most of your achievements are false anyway.
Yes, CCP gave us all those regions, didn't you read the patch notes? Thats why we don't care if we loose them
they apparently didn't tell you the difference between lose and loose either.
i.e. your mother is loose
You know your the upper echelon of CAOD when your retorts have been reduced to picking on a spelling mistake and making "your mother" jokes
the only reason I pointed it out is because there's no reason to mix it up.
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Jibrelle
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 20:45:00 -
[456]
Holy crap apples this thread.
Just ... holy ****. This is like every line of rationalization from every failed alliance we have ever seen before rolled into one glorious, delusional mess. I am really just totally unable to explain how thoroughly hilarious and mind-boggling it is.
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Cvuos
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 20:53:00 -
[457]
I guess our goal of removing your from 0.0 and griefing you to empire will mean we win too, so at the end of the day as long as BoB as camping Amamake everyone is happy.
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alpheon
Caldari Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 20:53:00 -
[458]
Originally by: Danyael Tyren EvE end-game is about taking and holding 0.0 Space, and the ensuing conflicts. If your conditions for winning at EvE do not include that, you are losing. Pretending otherwise just makes you look sad and desperate.
Pretending that you have perfectly engineered spectacular losses of vast swathes of space in order to make PvP more convenient for yourself is just silly and ridiculous. If you really wanted a fight, there were three different regions, stocked with former pets and infrastructure that would have gotten you precisely that.
I will tell you what happened to BoB. Time passed them by. Goons went from the horde of T1 frig, bookmark bombing noobs, to a vast horde of Capitals, T2 Snipers, and nano-hac gangs, backed by the likes of RA/TCF. The writing is on the wall where anyone willing or able to look can see.
This.
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Kyrie Elaison
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2008.01.03 20:53:00 -
[459]
Originally by: TWD
Originally by: Kyrie Elaison
Originally by: TWD
Originally by: Kyrie Elaison For the record, "we actively planned to lose massively in the name of pew pew" sounds far more pathetic than "we didn't want that x anyway." Just sayin.
I don't know, I always thought that winning was reaching your objectives.
Looks like the objective of getting everyone to attack Delve is reached :[
The idea of a massive gangbang in Delve might be appealing to you, I don't know (different strokes and all). The current talking point, however, just isn't convincing. It's just recycled from the 9-9 debacle. My advice would be to get some new material because this one was stale the first time around.
My personal objective of being in a cap fight in 9-9 was reached.
You guys should all go with "personal objectives" as a talking point. That would at least provide comedy.
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Yussef
Amarr Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 20:53:00 -
[460]
Denial
Denial is a defense mechanism in which a person is faced with a fact that is too painful to accept and rejects it instead, insisting that it is not true despite what may be overwhelming evidence. The subject may deny the reality of the unpleasant fact altogether (simple denial), admit the fact but deny its seriousness (minimisation) or admit both the fact and seriousness but deny responsibility (transference).
I still say BoB needs a hug.
Originally by: Sergeant Spot --Did BoB "plan" to lose all its space? No, and it might not happen either, but even if it does, its still just a detail within a success
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Kaylana Syi
Stimulus
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Posted - 2008.01.03 20:54:00 -
[461]
Originally by: Itzena
Originally by: Kaylana Syi Why don't you guys actually kick BoB out and stop trying to make it sound like BoB didn't want such an epic fight. Kick them out and let the chips fall where they land. Quite honestly, for all the double talk and forum posturing of RSF+NewNorth you sound like LV once did here on these very same forums when talking about RA's demise. RA/-A- isn't the only people capable of appreciating The Saint War.
Hey Kaylana - have you actually, you know, looked at the sovereignty maps since you got kicked out of IAC?
Kicked out of IAC. Maybe if you knew your history right you'd know that I didn't get kicked out of IAC. Infact I resigned and pulled my corp out, albeit on bad terms with Tyrrax and a few people in MINC. Infact, I had told them I was going to pull out my corp and resign in executive chat and I told nync and skavok (sp?) to remove my access to the leader intel channels days before because noone told them from IAC AND I contacted TCF leaders to revoke my corp's access to the Immensea outpost we had been using for 8 months.
Gave back all my shares in the F4 outpost that WE PAID FOR and the towers that IAC provided. Don't even know why I bless you with correction... goons don't listen or post with reason. I can't help a few people lolerskated in local accusing me of opening a cyno for BoB when it was infact Marco from 0utbreak who did it. Get your facts straight git.
Team Minmatar
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TWD
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 20:55:00 -
[462]
Originally by: Kyrie Elaison
Originally by: TWD
Originally by: Kyrie Elaison
Originally by: TWD
Originally by: Kyrie Elaison For the record, "we actively planned to lose massively in the name of pew pew" sounds far more pathetic than "we didn't want that x anyway." Just sayin.
I don't know, I always thought that winning was reaching your objectives.
Looks like the objective of getting everyone to attack Delve is reached :[
The idea of a massive gangbang in Delve might be appealing to you, I don't know (different strokes and all). The current talking point, however, just isn't convincing. It's just recycled from the 9-9 debacle. My advice would be to get some new material because this one was stale the first time around.
My personal objective of being in a cap fight in 9-9 was reached.
You guys should all go with "personal objectives" as a talking point. That would at least provide comedy.
My personal objective of getting a response has been reached. |
Kyrie Elaison
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2008.01.03 20:57:00 -
[463]
Originally by: TWD
Originally by: Kyrie Elaison
Originally by: TWD
Originally by: Kyrie Elaison
Originally by: TWD
Originally by: Kyrie Elaison For the record, "we actively planned to lose massively in the name of pew pew" sounds far more pathetic than "we didn't want that x anyway." Just sayin.
I don't know, I always thought that winning was reaching your objectives.
Looks like the objective of getting everyone to attack Delve is reached :[
The idea of a massive gangbang in Delve might be appealing to you, I don't know (different strokes and all). The current talking point, however, just isn't convincing. It's just recycled from the 9-9 debacle. My advice would be to get some new material because this one was stale the first time around.
My personal objective of being in a cap fight in 9-9 was reached.
You guys should all go with "personal objectives" as a talking point. That would at least provide comedy.
My personal objective of getting a response has been reached.
Now I know what it is like to be owned.
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mama guru
Gallente Corp 1 Allstars Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.01.03 20:58:00 -
[464]
Originally by: Yussef Denial
Denial is a defense mechanism in which a person is faced with a fact that is too painful to accept and rejects it instead, insisting that it is not true despite what may be overwhelming evidence. The subject may deny the reality of the unpleasant fact altogether (simple denial), admit the fact but deny its seriousness (minimisation) or admit both the fact and seriousness but deny responsibility (transference).
I still say BoB needs a hug.
Quoting this.
Any fool can start/plan a war. What you cant plan and that which really matters is how it ends. *signature removed - please email us to find out why (include a link) - Jacques([email protected]) EVE is like the "Fisherman's Friend" of MMOs. If it's too hard, you are too weak. |
NATMav
F.R.E.E. Explorer Atrum Tempestas Foedus
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Posted - 2008.01.03 21:00:00 -
[465]
My objective for tomorrow is to log in to EVE.
I'm going to be so successful!
Farham: "Remember, sometimes evolution ends in extinction." |
Lorn Yeager
Imperium Technologies
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Posted - 2008.01.03 21:00:00 -
[466]
Why waste so much time complaining about BoB NOT complaining about you winning?
No matter how much Molle planned this or not, you ARE WINNING!! Even the much feared MC/Outbreak group is shooting the same targets you are. Whats more to ask? You did it!
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Yussef
Amarr Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 21:02:00 -
[467]
Originally by: Lorn Yeager Why waste so much time complaining about BoB NOT complaining about you winning?
No matter how much Molle planned this or not, you ARE WINNING!! Even the much feared MC/Outbreak group is shooting the same targets you are. Whats more to ask? You did it!
It's not about winning. It's about getting BoB to move on from the stage of denial to anger then bargaining then depression then acceptance. Excuse us if we care for their wellbeing.
Originally by: Sergeant Spot --Did BoB "plan" to lose all its space? No, and it might not happen either, but even if it does, its still just a detail within a success
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YouShallKnowFear
Fourty-Two
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Posted - 2008.01.03 21:04:00 -
[468]
Originally by: Lorn Yeager Why waste so much time complaining about BoB NOT complaining about you winning?
This tbh. RSF started to wonder why BoB wasn't crying emo tears about losing 40 regions and a titan, so they started to ask "hay guyz w t f y aren't you cascading and whatnut". BoB answered and RSF didn't like the answer they got. kablammo
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Fry Fortune
Ultrapolite Socialites GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 21:06:00 -
[469]
*places application into Band of Brothers* *gets a recommendation from 1* ex-LV member, and 1* ex-RISE member* *Get's accepted*
*Posts on every internet forum how I'm loving losing and it was the plan all along*
*Whines on TS about how all the devs are goons and how bob is a wounded tiger that is more dangerous than ever*
*Rides bikes in cleisthenes gangs for the k:d ratio and ZOOM fast*
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Yussef
Amarr Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 21:09:00 -
[470]
Edited by: Yussef on 03/01/2008 21:09:15
Originally by: YouShallKnowFear
Originally by: Lorn Yeager Why waste so much time complaining about BoB NOT complaining about you winning?
This tbh. RSF started to wonder why BoB wasn't crying emo tears about losing 40 regions and a titan, so they started to ask "hay guyz w t f y aren't you cascading and whatnut". BoB answered and RSF didn't like the answer they got. kablammo
Not true. We always knew BoB were the "hold things in till your butt cheeks clench so tightly you could turn coal into diamonds" type.
Originally by: Sergeant Spot --Did BoB "plan" to lose all its space? No, and it might not happen either, but even if it does, its still just a detail within a success
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Avon
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 21:11:00 -
[471]
Originally by: Fry Fortune
*Rides bikes in cleisthenes gangs for the k:d ratio and ZOOM fast*
Your post was great until this bit. This was your downfall. Cleis gangs are definately not joined if you want to improve your K:D ratio.
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ponieus
the united
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Posted - 2008.01.03 21:15:00 -
[472]
Originally by: Avon
Originally by: Fry Fortune
*Rides bikes in cleisthenes gangs for the k:d ratio and ZOOM fast*
Your post was great until this bit. This was your downfall. Cleis gangs are definately not joined if you want to improve your K:D ratio.
probally the most fun you will have though.
miss that guy and his rants when we didnt listen.. I damn near didnt listen just to set him off. Was great great times..
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Louis Lane
Minmatar Imperium Holding corp
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Posted - 2008.01.03 21:49:00 -
[473]
Originally by: Chowdown
Originally by: The Mittani 4. post on scrapheap a lot
We didn't want coad anyway
lv didn't want the titan you stole for bob anyways you mean?
thats the only reason you were let into bob.
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Gungankllr
Caldari Salient Uprising
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Posted - 2008.01.03 22:12:00 -
[474]
Can I just point out to the mods that there's intentional pyramid quoting, then there's having a conversation/quoting someone?
A quote pyramid is when somebody (On purpose) makes pretty designs and patterns with quotes to see how long they can get them to screw up the forums.
When you arbitrarily clean/delete a couple of quotes from a post based on more than two replies you're just hampering communication and making it more difficult to follow a conversation.
If it's just spam, then fine, but please establish some sort of divining rod to tell you and everybody else what equals a quote pyramid and what equals a conversation.
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Gallente Caliente
Anti-BoB Flash Mob
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Posted - 2008.01.03 22:16:00 -
[475]
Guys don't stop, this is like free admission to a comedy club. Wait wait, let me try one.
"Hey uh RSF you can't win because we have honor and you can't break our honour. Even if you kill all our ships and stations and regions and even if a lot of us quit EVE you still haven't won because if I quit EVE and I start playing another MMOG I will still have honor in that MMOG and you can't take that away from me."
Let me know if that went too long, I'm trying to get this down just right (note the alternating spellings of honor). Somebody better be cataloging all these rationalizations for some kind of megaposter that can be put up for sale. ----------------------------------------------- www.nobob.info |
Sergeant Spot
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 22:23:00 -
[476]
Originally by: Orebuster
Originally by: Sergeant Spot That BoB's goal is, and always has been, epic warfare, has been pretty much established.
As for other details....
--Did BoB "plan" to lose all its space?
No, and it might not happen either, but even if it does, its still just a detail within a successful plan.
--Did BoB "want" to lose all its space?
No, and it might not happen either, but even if it does, its still just a detail within a successful plan.
--Did BoB "plan or want" for the Goons to be the loud credit taking mouth for all the various foes we have?
No, but even so, its still just a detail within a successful plan.
--Did BoB "plan or want" to lose battles/space here and there between winning battles?
No, but even so, its still just a detail within a successful plan.
BoB's intent has been LONG known. Its not as if any of this is new information. Frankly, the whole thing COULD be a win/win situation for everyone involved, so long as you like epic warfare.
So, no matter what happens, it is still just a detail within a successful plan.
"Hey guys, our plan is to play Eve, whether in space or station simulator. We will maintain a subscription! As long as we pay a monthly subscription fee, we're winning!"
Um, if our objective is fun epic pew pew in a space game, and we are in fact GETTING fun epic pew pew in a space game, then yes, we are "winning".
You begin to understand.....
Play nice while you butcher each other.
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Gallente Caliente
Anti-BoB Flash Mob
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Posted - 2008.01.03 22:36:00 -
[477]
Originally by: Sergeant Spot Um, if our objective is fun epic pew pew in a space game, and we are in fact GETTING fun epic pew pew in a space game, then yes, we are "winning".
You begin to understand.....
So what you are saying is that you enjoy losing. Because oddly enough RSF has been "GETTING fun epic pew pew" as well, and they've been doing it by beating down BoB AND it's allies. You see, in epic fun pew pew's somebody still has to lose all their ISK investments. And that's pretty much the GBC. So technically doesn't that mean RSF and allies are winning twice, because they get to win with their strategy AND yours? ----------------------------------------------- www.nobob.info |
The Mittani
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 22:42:00 -
[478]
this thread is a lawl, i think someone might actually believe bob if we didn't have their forums and ts infiltrated six ways from sunday to hear what they really say amongst themselves
oh wait even the dumbest pubbies out there dont believe 'we secretly wanted and planned to lose massively'
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The Mittani
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 22:43:00 -
[479]
Originally by: Sergeant Spot
Originally by: Sergeant Spot That BoB's goal is, and always has been, epic warfare, has been pretty much established.
As for other details....
--Did BoB "plan" to lose all its space?
No, and it might not happen either, but even if it does, its still just a detail within a successful plan.
--Did BoB "want" to lose all its space?
No, and it might not happen either, but even if it does, its still just a detail within a successful plan.
--Did BoB "plan or want" for the Goons to be the loud credit taking mouth for all the various foes we have?
No, but even so, its still just a detail within a successful plan.
--Did BoB "plan or want" to lose battles/space here and there between winning battles?
No, but even so, its still just a detail within a successful plan.
BoB's intent has been LONG known. Its not as if any of this is new information. Frankly, the whole thing COULD be a win/win situation for everyone involved, so long as you like epic warfare.
Um, if our objective is fun epic pew pew in a space game, and we are in fact GETTING fun epic pew pew in a space game, then yes, we are "winning".
You begin to understand.....
keep digging
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The Mittani
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 22:47:00 -
[480]
Originally by: SirMolle People, people, people, now, dont be upset about the fact that we actually enjoy this, and, that we actually want it.
Just feel content with the fact that YOU are fulfilling our goals.
I'll repeat what i've said elsewhere; Epic wars and fights is what made us, epic wars and fights are not ever going to break us.
this is pretty awesome molle im glad we could help you lose like you wanted, its like a new era of peace and cooperation over you failing
also its a little chilly up here in alaska could you help a broham out (since we are all brohams now working together for a common cause you see)
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Darcuese
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 22:57:00 -
[481]
Hm...A Fan club still very active i see me, myself and I ------> |
DoctorGonzo
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.03 23:05:00 -
[482]
Originally by: Darcuese Hm...A Fan club still very active i see
Mittens is very close to Presidio status, not there yet but nearly!
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The Mittani
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 23:09:00 -
[483]
so what kind of fans are you talking about
its pretty cold here in alaska and i could use some heating or possibly ventilation
certainly not any air conditioning thank you
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Darkstar BP
Caldari eXceed Inc.
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Posted - 2008.01.03 23:10:00 -
[484]
So to get the full 'experience', the full glory of fighting the rest of Eve alone, which you claim you are aiming for, you will need to throw Axe by the wayside at some point and whatever small rodents you still have flying with you. Curious when you want to do that - not much time left there.
Lol for Axe if they really are going to be your lapdoggies until the end.
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pershphanie
Deadly Addiction
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Posted - 2008.01.03 23:16:00 -
[485]
Originally by: Drasked
Originally by: pershphanie
Originally by: Drasked I think the common misconception in this thread is the difference between "losing space" and "losing"
dude.. didnt you get the memo? bob is waaaay dead.
Ok, so that is what you call "your members being more exited and active as ever before and people that quit comming back for action"
No. If the goonies say they're dead it must be true. There's no other explination.
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Vahl
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.03 23:20:00 -
[486]
I'm going to assume that since this was a master genius plan that all the poor renters and hangers on who you gladly accepted billions in rent from were let in on it.
Surely they were informed that your intent all along was to let their alliances go down in flames without lifting a finger to help them because it would mean "epic fights" for you later on. They were just paying that rent and losing their assetts for you because you are chill brosefs and they wanted you to get the most fun possible out of the game at their expense. _________________________________________________________
==REDSWARM FEDERATION==
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Cirillo
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Posted - 2008.01.03 23:48:00 -
[487]
all this post can be resumed in 1 word:
Patethic
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Brobuck
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.04 00:02:00 -
[488]
I was trying to fly a stabber into period basis and blow up some ships. I got doomsdayed.
Its still just a detail within a successful plan.
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Yussef
Amarr Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.04 00:07:00 -
[489]
When your plan is to have fun, you always win!!!
Originally by: Sergeant Spot --Did BoB "plan" to lose all its space? No, and it might not happen either, but even if it does, its still just a detail within a success
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Sergeant Spot
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.04 00:13:00 -
[490]
If one bothers to look, you can see that BoB has long stated we seek a challenge. And between the inevitable smack, are usually fairly respectful of those that "bring it" win or lose. (Goons alone disrespected, bring it or not, for reasons covered extensively elsewhere)
Is it any surprise we're not upset about having folks delivering epic pew pew right to Delve?
BoB is eager to play the game, win or lose, always has been, always will be, as long as BoB is BoB.
Play nice while you butcher each other.
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Charleton Heston
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.04 00:15:00 -
[491]
Originally by: Sergeant Spot If one bothers to look, you can see that BoB has long stated we seek a challenge. And between the inevitable smack, are usually fairly respectful of those that "bring it" win or lose. (Goons alone disrespected, bring it or not, for reasons covered extensively elsewhere)
Is it any surprise we're not upset about having folks delivering epic pew pew right to Delve?
BoB is eager to play the game, win or lose, always has been, always will be, as long as BoB is BoB.
I don't think you understand the difference between "wanting a challenge", and "planning to lose everything you own". You may have been looking for a challenge, but to claim you're in this situation because you wanted it is simply too hilarious.
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Brobuck
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.04 00:16:00 -
[492]
Originally by: Sergeant Spot
BoB is eager to play the game, win or lose, always has been, always will be, as long as BoB is BoB.
Well, if losing was your goal, then you have indeed had much success.
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The Mittani
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.04 00:18:00 -
[493]
Originally by: Sergeant Spot If one bothers to look, you can see that BoB has long stated we seek a challenge. And between the inevitable smack, are usually fairly respectful of those that "bring it" win or lose. (Goons alone disrespected, bring it or not, for reasons covered extensively elsewhere)
Is it any surprise we're not upset about having folks delivering epic pew pew right to Delve?
BoB is eager to play the game, win or lose, always has been, always will be, as long as BoB is BoB.
keep digging
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Yussef
Amarr Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.04 00:20:00 -
[494]
What a unique position that you play a competitive game and seek a challenge.
Originally by: Sergeant Spot --Did BoB "plan" to lose all its space? No, and it might not happen either, but even if it does, its still just a detail within a success
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Peen Long
Caldari DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.04 00:23:00 -
[495]
Originally by: Gallente Caliente
Originally by: Sergeant Spot Um, if our objective is fun epic pew pew in a space game, and we are in fact GETTING fun epic pew pew in a space game, then yes, we are "winning".
You begin to understand.....
Originally by: Sergeant Spot If one bothers to look, you can see that BoB has long stated we seek a challenge. And between the inevitable smack, are usually fairly respectful of those that "bring it" win or lose. (Goons alone disrespected, bring it or not, for reasons covered extensively elsewhere)
Is it any surprise we're not upset about having folks delivering epic pew pew right to Delve?
BoB is eager to play the game, win or lose, always has been, always will be, as long as BoB is BoB.
So what you are saying is that you enjoy losing. Because oddly enough RSF has been "GETTING fun epic pew pew" as well, and they've been doing it by beating down BoB AND it's allies. You see, in epic fun pew pew's somebody still has to lose all their ISK investments. And that's pretty much the GBC. So technically doesn't that mean RSF and allies are winning twice, because they get to win with their strategy AND yours?
You basically just repeated yourself without replying to a perfectly good post after yours. Let's try again.
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K'reemy G'udness
The Greater Goon GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.04 00:26:00 -
[496]
Originally by: Sergeant Spot If one bothers to look, you can see that BoB has long stated we seek a challenge.
I bothered to look, and here's what I found: "Nice region, we'll take it." If your master plan was to have hostiles in your home region, then why did you surround yourself with pets for so long?
Just saying. ---
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Dog Solitude
Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.01.04 00:41:00 -
[497]
I've never seen goons this worked up and upset. I gotta be honest....it creeps me out. Please bring back the happy-go-lucky goonies we know and love.
tia
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Peen Long
Caldari DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.04 00:50:00 -
[498]
Originally by: Dog Solitude I've never seen goons this worked up and upset. I gotta be honest....it creeps me out. Please bring back the happy-go-lucky goonies we know and love.
tia
Please link the upset posts, I'm just seein' lols.
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snerdly
snerd LTD
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Posted - 2008.01.04 00:54:00 -
[499]
Hi, I'm back, and I'd just like to once again express exactly how BoB is spinning this.
There was a plan. The plan was, 'get all of eve to attack us'. The plan was not, and still isn't, 'fall back to Delve'. The possibility of falling back to Delve was addressed, but it was not your plan.
Your plan's execution was very simple: act aggessive and such. Basically, be BoB. You entered this war not knowing if you were going or lose. You wanted to win, and tried your hardest. Your hardest wasn't good enough. You're going to lose.
Your arrogance is not part of a plan; you act arrogant because you are arrogant pr1cks.
We are going to win, and you are going to lose, despite your best efforts. It doesn't matter whether you orchestrated the start of this war or not, because again, despite your best efforts, you're going to lose it.
Your spin that being pushed back to Delve is part of your 'plan' is both ridiculous and hilarious. Again, it was recognized as a possibility. It was not what you wanted to happen. You, like every other organization of your type, wanted to win.
So, basically: We win. You lose. You suck at spin. F*ck you.
Originally by: Securion Wolfheart
EVE might never again see such a good alliance as the one you are about to kill off, with the help of the rest of the scum and trash you have pulled together against BOB. |
Kian Jorry
Minmatar Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.01.04 00:55:00 -
[500]
Originally by: SirMolle
I'll repeat what i've said elsewhere; Epic wars and fights is what made us, epic wars and fights are not ever going to break us.
Quoted for truth. There will be nothing epic in what will break you.
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Bone Collector44
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.04 00:57:00 -
[501]
TBH, the only thing that the average BoB grunt (ie: me) has ever cared about is PVP. I dont honestly believe that our leaders planned on losing all of our space, but I think I speak for most of the grunts in saying if I had known "losing" would be this much fun I wish we would have lost ages ago.
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Bone Collector44
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.04 00:59:00 -
[502]
Originally by: Kian Jorry
Originally by: SirMolle
I'll repeat what i've said elsewhere; Epic wars and fights is what made us, epic wars and fights are not ever going to break us.
Quoted for truth. There will be nothing epic in what will break you.
I can assure you that PL's role in what will "break us" is too miniscule to measure, but keep fighting (running from?) the good fight.
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Nez Perces
Amarr Metatron Inc.
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Posted - 2008.01.04 01:08:00 -
[503]
Edited by: Nez Perces on 04/01/2008 01:12:04
Well ... interesting thread. It certainly seems that BoB are going to stick with their PR spin and remain adamant that this had been planned all along. "Epic fights are what make BoB, we live for the endgame in EVE and the final ganbang in Delve is that endgame they have been planning for years... yadda yadda yadda...."
Assuming that all this is not just a load of hogwash.. what can RSF and Co. realistically do about it, and I mean about depriving BoB of what they claim to seek?
I can't help but cast my mind back to the Goonswarm STANDING ORDERS: DELVE CAMPAIGN MEGATRHEAD....
Originally by: The Mittani Overall Strategy: Slow, grinding misery. BoB want an Alamo and martyrdom with big flashy battles, and instead we're going to block them into Delve and grief them like we've never griefed before. I want goons to dig deep and find ways of being as cruel as possible, to utterly ruin the game experience for any BoB-aligned pilot. The question is not 'is this fun pew pew', the question is 'is what I am doing making our hated enemies suffer on as many levels as possible whenever they log in'.
Can RSF and Co. actually pull this off?... and I mean the actual act of turning the events that transpire in Delve into a completely miserable experience for BoB?
Cause really, to defeat BoB completely you have to rob them of any satisfaction they can gain from the game and rubbish the illusion that losing their final region will be fun.
Will it be fun or won't it?... maybe thats the question and the surefire way of measuring that will be BoB membership as the final act of the war progresses.
[edit:clarity]
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Peen Long
Caldari DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.04 01:10:00 -
[504]
Originally by: Bone Collector44 TBH, the only thing that the average BoB grunt (ie: me) has ever cared about is losing at PVP. I dont honestly believe that our leaders planned on losing all of our space was the real plan all along, but I think I speak for most of the grunts in saying if I had known "losing" tons of isk as an alliance would be this much fun I wish we would have gotten raped ages ago.
Fixed. Or maybe I should say clarified based on BoB's latest official stance.
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Frygok
Minmatar Malicious Intentions The Church.
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Posted - 2008.01.04 01:12:00 -
[505]
Erh right, I think I'm going to skip all the bickering part of this thread.
Just out of curiosity, if any BoB person want to answer it: What surprised you most in all of this? The quick demise of ASCN? The fall of D2? The monumental comback of RA-AAA? Goons becoming so huge? MC going solo?
Alot of things have happened in EVE since this plan was made (I'm not saying I believe it entirely), which ones have taken you guys by surprise, be it good or bad?
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Nlewis
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.04 01:15:00 -
[506]
I expected BoB to make excuses but theres definitely a better way you could have gone with this
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Local Her0
Minmatar La Mancha Corp
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Posted - 2008.01.04 01:21:00 -
[507]
Edited by: Local Her0 on 04/01/2008 01:23:10
Originally by: Dafuzz
Originally by: Mr Rive Oh yeah, and i agree with you, but this is not the public image that boB has been putting out until now, before, it was all about WORLD DOMINATION and all that, so to try and exuse yourself now by saying that we only wanted the space to lose it in a glorius way isnt going to wash with many people, including me.
The public image got everyone to circle the wagons around delve, didn't they?
It really doesn't matter what washes with whom, everyone appears happy at our apparent "demise" including us.
That is the crux of the matter, high-end content delivered in the most unpalatable way, being shoved down the throats of those that "hate" us, causes epic battles.
Said it before, will say again. BoB hasn't defended before. It is something new. It sucks choosing a region somewhere, invading, hoping that people will fight us. Instead we sit for hours/days whilst people bore us as we take their space.
THEN, we fall back, (with a creative evac picture posted by a goon that made our point better than we could with our video even) created a vacuum, and let the real pubbies come and have the regions gratis without us defending, giving away stepping stones to our doorstep. NEXT, we plant a trail of breadcrumbs a mile wide all leading to Delve, so those who simply don't appear to get it will come too.
End result? Fights. Defense.
Maybe. Hopefully.
Futhermore,
wow, just wow
thats the most pathetic crap i've ever heard from a bobit. is this your so called honor? this? lmao u guys lost a titan and all went downhill.
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Snowden Vel
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.04 01:26:00 -
[508]
You know, "rolling with the punches" isn't much of an alliance-level strategy, and even if it was, "look at all those suckers punching us, this is all going according to plan" isn't a very convincing argument for it.
Though I can see how this fits with the vaguely masochistic "you're not taking our space fast enough" trash talk.
Originally by: Sergeant Spot
Did BoB "plan" to lose all its space? ...if it does, its still just a detail within a successful plan |
Darkrydar
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.04 01:27:00 -
[509]
Originally by: Frygok Erh right, I think I'm going to skip all the bickering part of this thread.
Just out of curiosity, if any BoB person want to answer it: What surprised you most in all of this? The quick demise of ASCN? The fall of D2? The monumental comback of RA-AAA? Goons becoming so huge? MC going solo?
Alot of things have happened in EVE since this plan was made (I'm not saying I believe it entirely), which ones have taken you guys by surprise, be it good or bad?
I'd say it was the quick demise of D2.
One thing that ofc is getting lost is that the plan was never to lose regions. That was never factored in. The plan was to test ourselves to the limit.
Am I the only one who remembered how stale the game felt after we finshed of ASCN? Or am I the only one who rememberes the daily 'BOB are going to kill Eve' threads? It's kind of damned if we do, damned if we dont senarios.
We could have gone straight after RA/goon/TFC instead of ASCN, napped LV and ASCN. Where is the fun in that?
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Muesli Monster
Minmatar EvE Corporation 23846
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Posted - 2008.01.04 01:33:00 -
[510]
Since noone have said it earlier.
If you BoB guys want EPIC stuff, why dont you start play WOW over it? |
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Darkrydar
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.04 01:35:00 -
[511]
Originally by: Evil Thug
Originally by: Darkrydar
We could have gone straight after RA/goon/TFC instead of ASCN, napped LV and ASCN. Where is the fun in that?
You done that when you was LV.
Me personally? or You as in BOB?
Because I was never in LV. BOB fought with LV when LV was already all but done for.
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Himo Amasacia
Minmatar Fade to Black Inc Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.01.04 01:36:00 -
[512]
Edited by: Himo Amasacia on 04/01/2008 01:37:51 Anyone eve read spike milligans books on world war 2 where the German leader was screaming at someone and he said "EVERYONE KNOWS WE WONT LOSE THE WAR!! WE WILL COME SECOND!"
Since I cant be bothered clawing my way through the desperate BOB spinning ion this thread, and I cant be assed registering there, I'll just post in response tot he use of He-who-shall-not-be-named's blog on SHC. They dug this up to "prove" that there was a plan to suck all of eve into delve for "epic fights". The first ironic thing is that the blog in question was entitled "Bob is afraid of AAA + Goons + RA + D2"
Problem is from reading said blog (thich no doubt the desperate bob people hoped noone would) the rest of it does not really look like people who are thirsting for a fight. The blog deals with a plan to go up to d2 and fact them in glorious one on one combat to kill their titan in construction... and bring up MC, FIX and LV with them. Typical BOB basically. However the plan was suggested by Chowdown, then leader of LV. However At the 25th of November they were discussing how LV were not going to help them with it and they got all "we are tough, but"
They ignored the fact that LV were busy with Goons and couldn't pry themselves loose as official bob policy still is that the goons and RA are not a threat
Some quotes.
Quote: After thinking on it more. It really does stink. I would dearly love to kill that titan I mean its the whole BoB vs G thing again really but this benefits LV not us. If they want it dead they come with. We're ready to leave our regions undefended to go and do a job that gives them more than it does us while they sit on their arse. The whole thing reeks of bull**** at this stage and makes me feel that if we go we're gonna come back to find LV, ASCN and half the north squatting in delve"
Quote: Alasse said: "I agree completely with Dian (and my god does it hurt Neutral).
Us, MC & FIX all on the other side of the galaxy would be a wet dream for anyone interested in hitting us and there'd be absolutely **** all we could do about it for days.
Not to mention the fact we'd lose most of our capital fleet in the process, we'd be in a very, very sticky situation if LV & ASCN (maybe D2?) were to roll in to our space at any point within weeks after the fact."
Let me spell it out for the slow. BOB did not go after d2s titan BECAUSE doing so would risk everyone in eve coming and attacking Delve. The war that they now claim they really wanted was the reason that they held off. And they blamed LV for it.
And remember this is from the Blog that they are now using as evidence for their great plan. They did not want that epic fight in delve then and they sure as hell don't want it now. Anyone that doesn't believe us are invited to Delve where you can view BOB PVPing from inside stations and logging off en masse. They don't want a challenge, a "sticky situation" they want to win at all costs. They say they do here but in game its massive blobs of caps or nothing. There was no plan.
And they have lost. All they can do now is admit it, and spin it.
BOB for silver medal position.
"Constant practice devoted to one subject often outdoes both intelligence and skill." -Cicero |
Hrin
Minmatar Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.04 01:37:00 -
[513]
Originally by: Avon Long and worthless
So many lies and revisionist history.
Mmmmmm your tears are delicious
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Peen Long
DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.04 01:37:00 -
[514]
Originally by: Darkrydar
Originally by: Peen Long
Originally by: Bone Collector44 TBH, the only thing that the average BoB grunt (ie: me) has ever cared about is losing at PVP. I dont honestly believe that our leaders planned on losing all of our space was the real plan all along, but I think I speak for most of the grunts in saying if I had known "losing" tons of isk as an alliance would be this much fun I wish we would have gotten raped ages ago.
Fixed. Or maybe I should say clarified based on BoB's latest official stance.
Thats about the worst 'fix' job I've seen.
Posters like you are no different than the so called bandwagoneers that joined bob when we were on top and posted crap on the forums. You're cut from the same cloth. I'm sure in your whole 5.5 months in goon you've learned everything about BOB though. Hell your participation versus us is damn near legendary. Peen Long vs BOB
Hahahahah I'm an industry alt. In this day of a huge amount of players having multiple accounts, I love how you think who says it matters as opposed to the actual content of the post. This is who I'm logged in as. Doesn't really change anything though does it? It's still true.
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Nez Perces
Amarr Metatron Inc.
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Posted - 2008.01.04 01:37:00 -
[515]
Originally by: Peen Long
I'd like to answer this with a role play.....
That was pretty LOL.... however, without wanting to ruin you're little scenario.... what happens if BoB have amassed sufficient funds and materials to keep fighting for a long long time? Evol for example runs via communism... and im guessing they are pretty loaded. Infact I wouldn't be surprised if BoB membership is in general very well off, able to lose a lot of well fitted ships practically indefinitely..... and if you look at their K:D ratio (which I know you don't give a lot of credence to) they don't lose that many ships compared to those who fight them.
Hmmm.. ISK.. or the lack of it..... nah.. BoB won't run out of ISK any time soon. That won't be the reason for the fun running out.
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Darkrydar
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.04 01:37:00 -
[516]
Originally by: Himo Amasacia Anyone that doesn't believe us are invited to fdelve where we can view BOB PVPing from inside stations and logging off en masse.
More total rubbish from you, not suprising though. You're pretty much as clueless as it gets in Eve.
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snerdly
snerd LTD
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Posted - 2008.01.04 01:38:00 -
[517]
Originally by: Avon blah, blah, I'm not quoting all that
Frankly, Avon, I'm not 'getting' that third step because that step makes no sense.
You are a pvp organization.
pvp organizations want to win.
You wanted epic fights, but you wanted to win them.
(Not to mention all the inconsistencies in your play style that fit with 'we want epic fights' but not 'we want to intentionally lose')
It doesn't matter that that was step 3 because unless your entire alliance is a logical fallacy, step 3 was not your preferred outcome.
Try again.
Originally by: Securion Wolfheart
EVE might never again see such a good alliance as the one you are about to kill off, with the help of the rest of the scum and trash you have pulled together against BOB. |
Darkrydar
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.04 01:38:00 -
[518]
Originally by: Peen Long stuff
Industial alt in dorkstar1? Is that meanign you actually have pvp alts?
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Himo Amasacia
Minmatar Fade to Black Inc Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.01.04 01:39:00 -
[519]
Edited by: Himo Amasacia on 04/01/2008 01:42:28 Edited by: Himo Amasacia on 04/01/2008 01:41:01
Originally by: Darkrydar
Originally by: Himo Amasacia Anyone that doesn't believe us are invited to fdelve where we can view BOB PVPing from inside stations and logging off en masse.
More total rubbish from you, not suprising though. You're pretty much as clueless as it gets in Eve.
I'm sorry. I don't talk to Peons.
Someone wanting to actually dispute my Logic and research, rather than taking one small chunk out and throw a random insult in schoolyard fashion, is welcome.
"Constant practice devoted to one subject often outdoes both intelligence and skill." -Cicero |
Avon
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.04 01:40:00 -
[520]
Originally by: Hrin
So many lies and revisionist history.
Wow, you mean there is not only such a thing as objective truth, but that you actually have access to it?
:worship:
Eve-Online: The Text Adventure |
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Darkrydar
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.04 01:40:00 -
[521]
Originally by: Himo Amasacia
Originally by: Darkrydar
Originally by: Himo Amasacia Anyone that doesn't believe us are invited to fdelve where we can view BOB PVPing from inside stations and logging off en masse.
More total rubbish from you, not suprising though. You're pretty much as clueless as it gets in Eve.
I'm sorry. I don't talk to Peons.
so u only talk to ceo's? gl with that.
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Hrin
Minmatar Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.04 01:41:00 -
[522]
Originally by: Nez Perces
Originally by: Peen Long
I'd like to answer this with a role play.....
That was pretty LOL.... however, without wanting to ruin you're little scenario.... what happens if BoB have amassed sufficient funds and materials to keep fighting for a long long time? Evol for example runs via communism... and im guessing they are pretty loaded. Infact I wouldn't be surprised if BoB membership is in general very well off, able to lose a lot of well fitted ships practically indefinitely..... and if you look at their K:D ratio (which I know you don't give a lot of credence to) they don't lose that many ships compared to those who fight them.
Hmmm.. ISK.. or the lack of it..... nah.. BoB won't run out of ISK any time soon. That won't be the reason for the fun running out.
Ahahahah, this myth still perpetuates. BoB does not have infinite pockets. They are struggling as it is, perhaps not the top, but the general membership is having a difficult time.
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Local Her0
Minmatar La Mancha Corp
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Posted - 2008.01.04 01:41:00 -
[523]
Silentium minions!
Listen to the Pendulum.
Tick Tock
Tick Tock
Tickc***c***c******
Damn the Pendulum is broken.
No worries its part of the plan.
-dbp-
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Peen Long
DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.04 01:43:00 -
[524]
Originally by: Darkrydar
Originally by: Peen Long stuff
Industial alt in dorkstar1? Is that meanign you actually have pvp alts?
Dorkstar1? That's what you came up with?
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Darkrydar
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.04 01:44:00 -
[525]
Originally by: Peen Long
Originally by: Darkrydar
Originally by: Peen Long stuff
Industial alt in dorkstar1? Is that meanign you actually have pvp alts?
Dorkstar1? That's what you came up with?
nah, its what you've been called since you were the shining light of success in ascn.
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Muesli Monster
Minmatar EvE Corporation 23846
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Posted - 2008.01.04 01:45:00 -
[526]
Originally by: Darkrydar
Originally by: Himo Amasacia Anyone that doesn't believe us are invited to fdelve where we can view BOB PVPing from inside stations and logging off en masse.
More total rubbish from you, not suprising though. You're pretty much as clueless as it gets in Eve.
Like you have any clues? Being wrong on youre earlier corp membership on 2 accounts in this thread...
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Peen Long
DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.04 01:46:00 -
[527]
Originally by: Darkrydar
Originally by: Peen Long
Originally by: Darkrydar
Originally by: Peen Long stuff
Industial alt in dorkstar1? Is that meanign you actually have pvp alts?
Dorkstar1? That's what you came up with?
nah, its what you've been called since you were the shining light of success in ascn.
Odd, I've personally never been in ASCN and neither has any of my other characters. You gonna refute anything? Who needs drugs when the drama gets this good.
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Avon
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.04 01:46:00 -
[528]
Originally by: snerdly You are a pvp organization.
pvp organizations want to win.
You aren't getting it because you don't want to, not because it isn't clear.
PvP organisations want to PvP. That is what they find fun.
To a PvP organisation a good fight, win or lose, is far more enjoyable than fueling POS and doing logistics.
Winning a fight mitigates your costs, it doesn't increase the excitement of the actual fight.
There is no "win Eve" ultimately anyway. You win by having fun. If you can only have fun by winning, then you have already lost.
I think you are missing the whole "IT IS A GAME" thing, to get meta. It is a form of entertainment.
I don't think you *get* games.
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Nez Perces
Amarr Metatron Inc.
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Posted - 2008.01.04 01:47:00 -
[529]
Edited by: Nez Perces on 04/01/2008 01:55:35
Originally by: Nez Perces
Can't be asked to look through the myriad of killboards... but just out of curiousity, have they stopped fighting you with fully fitted techII BS's and Capital ships yet?
Gonna answer my own question here.... I looked up a SMASH Raven killed yesterday by BoB..... a good percentage of the BoB pilots were using faction ammo.. and practically all of them were flying techII ships.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that your average BoB pilot hasn't run out of isk yet......
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Peen Long
DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.04 01:48:00 -
[530]
Originally by: Avon
Originally by: snerdly You are a pvp organization.
pvp organizations want to win.
You aren't getting it because you don't want to, not because it isn't clear.
PvP organisations want to PvP. That is what they find fun.
To a PvP organisation a good fight, win or lose, is far more enjoyable than fueling POS and doing logistics.
Winning a fight mitigates your costs, it doesn't increase the excitement of the actual fight.
There is no "win Eve" ultimately anyway. You win by having fun. If you can only have fun by winning, then you have already lost.
I think you are missing the whole "IT IS A GAME" thing, to get meta. It is a form of entertainment.
I don't think you *get* games.
And what about when you run out of isk and you are losing 90% of the time? Still fun? Are you seriously believing yourself?
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Local Her0
Minmatar La Mancha Corp
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Posted - 2008.01.04 01:52:00 -
[531]
Originally by: Avon
Originally by: snerdly You are a pvp organization.
pvp organizations want to win.
You aren't getting it because you don't want to, not because it isn't clear.
PvP organisations want to PvP. That is what they find fun.
To a PvP organisation a good fight, win or lose, is far more enjoyable than fueling POS and doing logistics.
Winning a fight mitigates your costs, it doesn't increase the excitement of the actual fight.
There is no "win Eve" ultimately anyway. You win by having fun. If you can only have fun by winning, then you have already lost.
I think you are missing the whole "IT IS A GAME" thing, to get meta. It is a form of entertainment.
I don't think you *get* games.
I think you don't 'get' losing.
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Yussef
Amarr Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.04 01:52:00 -
[532]
Originally by: Avon [ You aren't getting it because you don't want to, not because it isn't clear.
PvP organisations want to PvP. That is what they find fun.
To a PvP organisation a good fight, win or lose, is far more enjoyable than fueling POS and doing logistics.
You guys sure cry alot in TS for a bunch that are having fun.
Originally by: Sergeant Spot --Did BoB "plan" to lose all its space? No, and it might not happen either, but even if it does, its still just a detail within a success
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snerdly
snerd LTD
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Posted - 2008.01.04 01:53:00 -
[533]
Edited by: snerdly on 04/01/2008 01:53:51 Avon,
pvp organizations want to win. This is the case in every mmo I have ever played, and it is the case here. This is especially true in pos warfare, which is exactly the type of war you entered into with your 'plan'.
Like you may have noticed, you're only having fun in pos warfare if you're winning.
And...
Whether or not you believe my absolute, the fact is your behavior in game cannot possibly be reconciled with this 'plan' in any other way. It's that simple.
Originally by: Securion Wolfheart
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Darkrydar
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.04 01:53:00 -
[534]
Edited by: Darkrydar on 04/01/2008 01:53:21
Originally by: Muesli Monster
Originally by: Darkrydar
Originally by: Himo Amasacia Anyone that doesn't believe us are invited to fdelve where we can view BOB PVPing from inside stations and logging off en masse.
More total rubbish from you, not suprising though. You're pretty much as clueless as it gets in Eve.
Like you have any clues? Being wrong on youre earlier corp membership on 2 accounts in this thread...
Talk about clueless, yet, you still reply with nothing that will contribute at all, Thanks!
nm, pointless to reply to a coward that is posting with an alt.
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Lunas Feelgood
S.A.S
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Posted - 2008.01.04 01:54:00 -
[535]
I cant belive this thread has turned 20 pages allrdy..
Seriously goons stop arguing with them you cant convince people that actually belive there own lies..
Everyone who has played this game more then a year and got an IQ over 50 would know what to belive..
So this hole thread is preatty pointless both sides will never belive the other one..
Anyway I cant wait until they lose delve and then molle will come up here with a big thread saying how uber they was all of EVE needed to take them on
After that they will proberly go attack some ****ty northen alliance and then claim this was all plan we taking the north back
On another note.. Dear smashkill you know E-R back in the day tryed to take geminate from you. And where we failed well that was all plan we wanted to go out fighting against alot of peeps Signature
Quote: ISD Valorem
Someday a thread will be created in CAOD that isn't full of childish drivel.
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Avon
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.04 01:55:00 -
[536]
Originally by: Peen Long
And what about when you run out of isk and you are losing 90% of the time? Still fun? Are you seriously believing yourself?
Ask me in another year.
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Yussef
Amarr Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.04 01:56:00 -
[537]
Lot of posting for guys who only wanna PvP.
Originally by: Sergeant Spot --Did BoB "plan" to lose all its space? No, and it might not happen either, but even if it does, its still just a detail within a success
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Hrin
Minmatar Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.04 01:59:00 -
[538]
Edited by: Hrin on 04/01/2008 01:59:38 Avon almost sounds believable, until you listen to their TS recordings. They sure do cry alot there.
edit: :page21snypa:
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Peen Long
DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.04 02:00:00 -
[539]
Originally by: Darkrydar Edited by: Darkrydar on 04/01/2008 01:53:21
Originally by: Muesli Monster
Originally by: Darkrydar
Originally by: Himo Amasacia Anyone that doesn't believe us are invited to fdelve where we can view BOB PVPing from inside stations and logging off en masse.
More total rubbish from you, not suprising though. You're pretty much as clueless as it gets in Eve.
Like you have any clues? Being wrong on youre earlier corp membership on 2 accounts in this thread...
Talk about clueless, yet, you still reply with nothing that will contribute at all, Thanks!
nm, pointless to reply to a coward that is posting with an alt.
Look out! You're gonna get hit by the evasion truck!
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Darkrydar
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.04 02:03:00 -
[540]
Originally by: Peen Long
Look out! You're gonna get hit by the evasion truck!
If everyone stopped replying to 1-man CAOD only alts this forum would improve a lot. Do you have a problem with that or is that your alt?
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SumDum
AirHawk Alliance Rule of Three
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Posted - 2008.01.04 02:07:00 -
[541]
Everyone thinks they are so damn smart and have it all figured out.
Party over here, **** you over there!
Blah Blah Blah!
Doesn't anyone remember this!
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Will Hunter
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.04 02:07:00 -
[542]
Originally by: Darkrydar
Originally by: Peen Long
Look out! You're gonna get hit by the evasion truck!
If everyone stopped replying to 1-man CAOD only alts this forum would improve a lot. Do you have a problem with that or is that your alt?
He may be and alt, but that does not invalidate his words.
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Peen Long
DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.04 02:08:00 -
[543]
Edited by: Peen Long on 04/01/2008 02:09:33
Originally by: Darkrydar
Originally by: Peen Long
Look out! You're gonna get hit by the evasion truck!
If everyone stopped replying to 1-man CAOD only alts this forum would improve a lot. Do you have a problem with that or is that your alt?
Why not just answer when you get asked something, "yer an alt" is pretty much the dumbest evasion tactic practiced around here. And what's an alt anyway, I have lots of regularly used characters spanning three accounts. Some people post only with alternate characters due to corp/alliance restrictions or to maintain secrecy for legitimate reasons. Do you get to pick the proper criteria? Sorry, "yer an alt" doesn't really cut it in terms of intelligent responses.
I've actually posted in this thread with three different characters, simply because I can't be bothered to logoff and back on all day long just to maintain some form of stupid identity that really isn't relevant to the discussion.
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snerdly
snerd LTD
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Posted - 2008.01.04 02:11:00 -
[544]
It's useless, I tried to talk to him about that earlier, and explained why i post on an alt.
Not that I mind, judging by his posting he wouldn't have been able to give an intelligent response anyway.
Originally by: Securion Wolfheart
EVE might never again see such a good alliance as the one you are about to kill off, with the help of the rest of the scum and trash you have pulled together against BOB. |
Muesli Monster
Minmatar EvE Corporation 23846
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Posted - 2008.01.04 02:12:00 -
[545]
Originally by: Darkrydar
nm, pointless to reply to a coward that is posting with an alt.
but still, you reply... |
Bone Collector44
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.04 02:14:00 -
[546]
Originally by: Peen Long
I'd like to answer this with a role play.
"Hey Tim my fellow BoB member, isn't this epic and awesome? We are getting fights and fights all the time!"
"Why yes Alexander, I am loving this epicness and non-stop PVP. Hey can you spot me 50mil? In all of this epicness I have lost quite a few ships and haven't had time to replace them since all I care about is epicness and PVP."
"Sure, here is 50mil. I will need it back soon however because in all of this epic pew pew I am sure I will continue losing my ships as well"
"Say, do you think losing over and over will stop being fun at all? I mean sure we get amazing epic PVP fights, however we are losing more and more and how much longer can this go on? It's not going to be fun anymore if we just always lose and even if our alts make money, playing as my industry alt isn't as fun."
"BITE YOUR TONGUE TIM this is what the plan is. We will PVP and lose over and over until we decide to change the plan again to something that makes us look awesome and epic again."
"Thanks Alexander, I have been worried since the other guys left but I guess they just didn't really get the plan. Now I see that no matter how much isk we lose, we can always undock in the always generated newb ship to continue our epic PVP fights. Those will never run out."
Besides the fact that I dont know anyone in BoB named Alexander (kinda sounds like a preppy lawyer name, not an AC company owners name) the biggest problem with this is your thinking that most BoB members have lost ISK over the last year. Again, I think you guys are confused. |
Peen Long
DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.04 02:16:00 -
[547]
Originally by: Bone Collector44
Originally by: Peen Long
I'd like to answer this with a role play.
"Hey Tim my fellow BoB member, isn't this epic and awesome? We are getting fights and fights all the time!"
"Why yes Alexander, I am loving this epicness and non-stop PVP. Hey can you spot me 50mil? In all of this epicness I have lost quite a few ships and haven't had time to replace them since all I care about is epicness and PVP."
"Sure, here is 50mil. I will need it back soon however because in all of this epic pew pew I am sure I will continue losing my ships as well"
"Say, do you think losing over and over will stop being fun at all? I mean sure we get amazing epic PVP fights, however we are losing more and more and how much longer can this go on? It's not going to be fun anymore if we just always lose and even if our alts make money, playing as my industry alt isn't as fun."
"BITE YOUR TONGUE TIM this is what the plan is. We will PVP and lose over and over until we decide to change the plan again to something that makes us look awesome and epic again."
"Thanks Alexander, I have been worried since the other guys left but I guess they just didn't really get the plan. Now I see that no matter how much isk we lose, we can always undock in the always generated newb ship to continue our epic PVP fights. Those will never run out."
Besides the fact that I dont know anyone in BoB named Alexander (kinda sounds like a preppy lawyer name, not an AC company owners name) the biggest problem with this is your thinking that most BoB members have lost ISK over the last year. Again, I think you guys are confused.
So you are telling me that isk is not an issue for every single member of BoB? If not that's great, because Goons plan all along is to have epic PVP fights that never end, so here's to the next four years!
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Local Her0
Minmatar La Mancha Corp
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Posted - 2008.01.04 02:17:00 -
[548]
Edited by: Local Her0 on 04/01/2008 02:18:23
Originally by: Muesli Monster
Originally by: Darkrydar
nm, pointless to reply to a coward that is posting with an alt.
but still, you reply...
thats a seldom form of public-self-therapy
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Bone Collector44
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.04 02:18:00 -
[549]
Originally by: Himo Amasacia Edited by: Himo Amasacia on 04/01/2008 01:37:51 Anyone eve read spike milligans books on world war 2 where the German leader was screaming at someone and he said "EVERYONE KNOWS WE WONT LOSE THE WAR!! WE WILL COME SECOND!"
Since I cant be bothered clawing my way through the desperate BOB spinning ion this thread, and I cant be assed registering there, I'll just post in response tot he use of He-who-shall-not-be-named's blog on SHC. They dug this up to "prove" that there was a plan to suck all of eve into delve for "epic fights". The first ironic thing is that the blog in question was entitled "Bob is afraid of AAA + Goons + RA + D2"
Problem is from reading said blog (thich no doubt the desperate bob people hoped noone would) the rest of it does not really look like people who are thirsting for a fight. The blog deals with a plan to go up to d2 and fact them in glorious one on one combat to kill their titan in construction... and bring up MC, FIX and LV with them. Typical BOB basically. However the plan was suggested by Chowdown, then leader of LV. However At the 25th of November they were discussing how LV were not going to help them with it and they got all "we are tough, but"
They ignored the fact that LV were busy with Goons and couldn't pry themselves loose as official bob policy still is that the goons and RA are not a threat
Some quotes.
Quote: After thinking on it more. It really does stink. I would dearly love to kill that titan I mean its the whole BoB vs G thing again really but this benefits LV not us. If they want it dead they come with. We're ready to leave our regions undefended to go and do a job that gives them more than it does us while they sit on their arse. The whole thing reeks of bull**** at this stage and makes me feel that if we go we're gonna come back to find LV, ASCN and half the north squatting in delve"
Quote: Alasse said: "I agree completely with Dian (and my god does it hurt Neutral).
Us, MC & FIX all on the other side of the galaxy would be a wet dream for anyone interested in hitting us and there'd be absolutely **** all we could do about it for days.
Not to mention the fact we'd lose most of our capital fleet in the process, we'd be in a very, very sticky situation if LV & ASCN (maybe D2?) were to roll in to our space at any point within weeks after the fact."
Let me spell it out for the slow. BOB did not go after d2s titan BECAUSE doing so would risk everyone in eve coming and attacking Delve. The war that they now claim they really wanted was the reason that they held off. And they blamed LV for it.
And remember this is from the Blog that they are now using as evidence for their great plan. They did not want that epic fight in delve then and they sure as hell don't want it now. Anyone that doesn't believe us are invited to Delve where you can view BOB PVPing from inside stations and logging off en masse. They don't want a challenge, a "sticky situation" they want to win at all costs. They say they do here but in game its massive blobs of caps or nothing. There was no plan.
And they have lost. All they can do now is admit it, and spin it.
BOB for silver medal position.
Arent you the same guy who was on another forum saying something about IAC not being able to defend its own space because you had fought "constantly for 2 months" time? Yep, you seem like an expert when it comes to understanding an alliance like ours.
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Bone Collector44
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.04 02:23:00 -
[550]
Originally by: Peen Long
Originally by: Bone Collector44
Originally by: Peen Long
I'd like to answer this with a role play.
"Hey Tim my fellow BoB member, isn't this epic and awesome? We are getting fights and fights all the time!"
"Why yes Alexander, I am loving this epicness and non-stop PVP. Hey can you spot me 50mil? In all of this epicness I have lost quite a few ships and haven't had time to replace them since all I care about is epicness and PVP."
"Sure, here is 50mil. I will need it back soon however because in all of this epic pew pew I am sure I will continue losing my ships as well"
"Say, do you think losing over and over will stop being fun at all? I mean sure we get amazing epic PVP fights, however we are losing more and more and how much longer can this go on? It's not going to be fun anymore if we just always lose and even if our alts make money, playing as my industry alt isn't as fun."
"BITE YOUR TONGUE TIM this is what the plan is. We will PVP and lose over and over until we decide to change the plan again to something that makes us look awesome and epic again."
"Thanks Alexander, I have been worried since the other guys left but I guess they just didn't really get the plan. Now I see that no matter how much isk we lose, we can always undock in the always generated newb ship to continue our epic PVP fights. Those will never run out."
Besides the fact that I dont know anyone in BoB named Alexander (kinda sounds like a preppy lawyer name, not an AC company owners name) the biggest problem with this is your thinking that most BoB members have lost ISK over the last year. Again, I think you guys are confused.
So you are telling me that isk is not an issue for every single member of BoB? If not that's great, because Goons plan all along is to have epic PVP fights that never end, so here's to the next four years!
I am saying that *most* BoB members dont suffer for ISK at all. I have more ISK right now than I did when we attacked ASCN and I would think I am one of the poorer BoB members. Another thing to keep in mind is that it is the coalition who constantly harps on the fact that losing insured ships doesnt hurt them (F-T, 9-9, etc). Does that not apply to BoB as well?
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Peen Long
DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.04 02:25:00 -
[551]
Originally by: Bone Collector44 Arent you the same guy who was on another forum saying something about IAC not being able to defend its own space because you had fought "constantly for 2 months" time? Yep, you seem like an expert when it comes to understanding an alliance like ours.
His post makes sense, yours appears to be more evasion. Care to refute/clarify?
I'm feeding off these rationalizations/evasions. Om nom nom nom nom.
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Nez Perces
Amarr Metatron Inc.
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Posted - 2008.01.04 02:26:00 -
[552]
Edited by: Nez Perces on 04/01/2008 02:27:30
Originally by: Bone Collector44
I am saying that *most* BoB members dont suffer for ISK at all. I have more ISK right now than I did when we attacked ASCN and I would think I am one of the poorer BoB members. Another thing to keep in mind is that it is the coalition who constantly harps on the fact that losing insured ships doesnt hurt them (F-T, 9-9, etc). Does that not apply to BoB as well?
Well lets take you as a typical BoB player... albeit one on the lower end of the financial scale... as you have stated.
How much isk do you have in your wallet, or alternatively how much are your total personal assets worth? I believe Destructive Influence is not communist based, unlike Evolution so its a valid question.
It would be interesting if you answered truthfully ofc.. just to quantify the situation.
[edit:clarity]
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Bone Collector44
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.04 03:12:00 -
[553]
Originally by: Nez Perces Edited by: Nez Perces on 04/01/2008 02:27:30
Well lets take you as a typical BoB player... albeit one on the lower end of the financial scale... as you have stated.
How much isk do you have in your wallet, or alternatively how much are your total personal assets worth? I believe Destructive Influence is not communist based, unlike Evolution so its a valid question.
It would be interesting if you answered truthfully ofc.. just to quantify the situation.
[edit:clarity]
Personal ISK I have about 5 billion. Assets? Hard to gauge but I would say about 3 billion more. Of course, that is not only on BoB characters and I havent done anything other than PVP with my BoB characters for over a year now. I hear the ratting is nice in Delve, but luckily I dont have to worry about that.
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Bone Collector44
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.04 03:17:00 -
[554]
Originally by: Peen Long
Originally by: Bone Collector44 Arent you the same guy who was on another forum saying something about IAC not being able to defend its own space because you had fought "constantly for 2 months" time? Yep, you seem like an expert when it comes to understanding an alliance like ours.
His post makes sense, yours appears to be more evasion. Care to refute/clarify?
I'm feeding off these rationalizations/evasions. Om nom nom nom nom.
I am not evading anything. I have no idea about the "plan", but I would venture a guess (I would say wager, but everyone knows that it is "in" to not pay up) that our leaders didnt plan on losing our space. I dont doubt a bit though that they wanted the entire game to attack us. I also dont doubt that they thought in the long term we would win. Obviously, with the insane numbers arrayed against us, that is most likely not going to happen. However, I dont see us going the way of most failed alliances due to us having relatively few players who are interested in the carebear side of the game. |
SiamFattiCosi
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.04 04:15:00 -
[555]
Woha! This failure cascade is gaining momentum too fast. Please BOB, hold out for at least 6months. This will be the mother of all long bloody grinds, and I hope it will grind you to dust.
So please, do not collapse this fast!
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Civrax
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.04 04:16:00 -
[556]
Edited by: Civrax on 04/01/2008 04:18:52 Can I see a topic where we don't praise our allies to high heaven for their accomplishments, because I'd love to see this.
More importantly, can I see a topic where didn't BoB take full credit for an ally's accomplishment, oh right: that would be none of them.
Just die with dignity like all those other failed alliances.
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The Mittani
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.04 04:22:00 -
[557]
thread is amusing but irrelevant since we control the propaganda and the media
no one will buy bob's line even without us publishing their ts chats where they moan and groan, their forum posts where they don't obey this party line, or copy and pasting all their e-rage about losing allies and losing regions
its just too stupid to be believed except for those holding the sippy cups of koolaid in delve
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The Mittani
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.04 04:23:00 -
[558]
also: lawl, the ones really trying to convince themselves itt are the ex-lv guys and former pets who joined bob expecting that someone, somewhere would finally stop the RSF from killing them
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xRevolveRx
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Posted - 2008.01.04 04:41:00 -
[559]
Originally by: The Mittani also: lawl, the ones really trying to convince themselves itt are the ex-lv guys and former pets who joined bob expecting that someone, somewhere would finally stop the RSF from killing them
Yea... AAA, IAC, RZR, Mostly Harmless had nothing to do with it. Just Ra/goonswarm and your pets. Oh yea, I vote The Mittani for forum W**** of the decade.
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Civrax
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.04 04:42:00 -
[560]
Originally by: xRevolveRx Yea... AAA, IAC, RZR, Mostly Harmless had nothing to do with it. Just Ra/goonswarm and your pets. Oh yea, I vote The Mittani for forum W**** of the decade.
You're an idiot, shoot yourself in the head.
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Orebuster
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.04 04:44:00 -
[561]
Originally by: Bone Collector44 I am saying that *most* BoB members dont suffer for ISK at all. I have more ISK right now than I did when we attacked ASCN and I would think I am one of the poorer BoB members.
I guess after sucking up rent from people you planned to abandon, getting rich off their firesales, and creating markets for them to use and lose makes people rich. Guess what, your market is now empire. Go mine some veldspar and rat in lo-sec.
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xRevolveRx
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Posted - 2008.01.04 04:47:00 -
[562]
Originally by: Civrax
Originally by: xRevolveRx Yea... AAA, IAC, RZR, Mostly Harmless had nothing to do with it. Just Ra/goonswarm and your pets. Oh yea, I vote The Mittani for forum W**** of the decade.
You're an idiot, shoot yourself in the head.
Have fun being banned.
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Peen Long
DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.04 04:47:00 -
[563]
Originally by: xRevolveRx
Originally by: The Mittani also: lawl, the ones really trying to convince themselves itt are the ex-lv guys and former pets who joined bob expecting that someone, somewhere would finally stop the RSF from killing them
Yea... AAA, IAC, RZR, Mostly Harmless had nothing to do with it. Just Ra/goonswarm and your pets. Oh yea, I vote The Mittani for forum W**** of the decade.
You see, it's generally understood that when someone says RSF they really mean "everyone involved" since in general angry propellers are always given to those that helped on the "RSF side." It'd however be annoying to have to list everyone every single time. Don't mistake this for the self-centeredness that BoB displays when they claim they did all the work and actually mean it.
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Peen Long
DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.04 04:49:00 -
[564]
Originally by: xRevolveRx
Originally by: Civrax
Originally by: xRevolveRx Yea... AAA, IAC, RZR, Mostly Harmless had nothing to do with it. Just Ra/goonswarm and your pets. Oh yea, I vote The Mittani for forum W**** of the decade.
You're an idiot, shoot yourself in the head.
Have fun being banned.
Have fun being edited out.
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xRevolveRx
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Posted - 2008.01.04 04:51:00 -
[565]
Originally by: Peen Long
Originally by: xRevolveRx
Originally by: The Mittani also: lawl, the ones really trying to convince themselves itt are the ex-lv guys and former pets who joined bob expecting that someone, somewhere would finally stop the RSF from killing them
Yea... AAA, IAC, RZR, Mostly Harmless had nothing to do with it. Just Ra/goonswarm and your pets. Oh yea, I vote The Mittani for forum W**** of the decade.
You see, it's generally understood that when someone says RSF they really mean "everyone involved" since in general angry propellers are always given to those that helped on the "RSF side." It'd however be annoying to have to list everyone every single time. Don't mistake this for the self-centeredness that BoB displays when they claim they did all the work and actually mean it.
I'm sorry I thought it stood for Red Swarm Federation which equals RA, Goons, and their pets.
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Bone Collector44
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.04 04:54:00 -
[566]
Originally by: The Mittani thread is amusing but irrelevant since we control the propaganda and the media
no one will buy bob's line even without us publishing their ts chats where they moan and groan, their forum posts where they don't obey this party line, or copy and pasting all their e-rage about losing allies and losing regions
its just too stupid to be believed except for those holding the sippy cups of koolaid in delve
Can you tell our moderators to stop deleting those posts? I keep missing them.
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xRevolveRx
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Posted - 2008.01.04 04:55:00 -
[567]
Originally by: Peen Long
Originally by: xRevolveRx
Originally by: Civrax
Originally by: xRevolveRx Yea... AAA, IAC, RZR, Mostly Harmless had nothing to do with it. Just Ra/goonswarm and your pets. Oh yea, I vote The Mittani for forum W**** of the decade.
You're an idiot, shoot yourself in the head.
Have fun being banned.
Have fun being edited out.
too late for him to edit his post. Btw you goonies are spamming caod at an alarming rate. You kiddies still on christmas vacation?
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Bone Collector44
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.04 04:58:00 -
[568]
Originally by: Orebuster
Originally by: Bone Collector44 I am saying that *most* BoB members dont suffer for ISK at all. I have more ISK right now than I did when we attacked ASCN and I would think I am one of the poorer BoB members.
I guess after sucking up rent from people you planned to abandon, getting rich off their firesales, and creating markets for them to use and lose makes people rich. Guess what, your market is now empire. Go mine some veldspar and rat in lo-sec.
Actually my market has always been empire. Well, that and the tech II loot that the non-noobs drop. Is that seriously how you guys make ISK? Ratting and 0.0 markets? How boring... |
Peen Long
DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.04 05:06:00 -
[569]
Originally by: xRevolveRx
Originally by: Peen Long
Originally by: xRevolveRx
Originally by: The Mittani also: lawl, the ones really trying to convince themselves itt are the ex-lv guys and former pets who joined bob expecting that someone, somewhere would finally stop the RSF from killing them
Yea... AAA, IAC, RZR, Mostly Harmless had nothing to do with it. Just Ra/goonswarm and your pets. Oh yea, I vote The Mittani for forum W**** of the decade.
You see, it's generally understood that when someone says RSF they really mean "everyone involved" since in general angry propellers are always given to those that helped on the "RSF side." It'd however be annoying to have to list everyone every single time. Don't mistake this for the self-centeredness that BoB displays when they claim they did all the work and actually mean it.
I'm sorry I thought it stood for Red Swarm Federation which equals RA, Goons, and their pets.
Glad you're sorry because yeah you're wrong. It officially stands for RA, Goons, and TCF, the pets thing is a GBC thing only really, and as I said RSF is generally thrown around as the general term for the entire anti-bob side. Sorry if that messes up your whole "RSF are mean ungrateful bastards" thing. That's also a GBC thing. And you, you are the one that will be edited out mr no ticker.
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Moctobot
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.04 05:08:00 -
[570]
Originally by: Bone Collector44
Originally by: Orebuster
Originally by: Bone Collector44 I am saying that *most* BoB members dont suffer for ISK at all. I have more ISK right now than I did when we attacked ASCN and I would think I am one of the poorer BoB members.
I guess after sucking up rent from people you planned to abandon, getting rich off their firesales, and creating markets for them to use and lose makes people rich. Guess what, your market is now empire. Go mine some veldspar and rat in lo-sec.
Actually my market has always been empire. Well, that and the tech II loot that the non-noobs drop. Is that seriously how you guys make ISK? Ratting and 0.0 markets? How boring...
have i just witnessed the first iteration of '0.0 sucks anyway' or what
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SiamFattiCosi
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.04 05:11:00 -
[571]
Originally by: xRevolveRx
too late for him to edit his post. Btw you goonies are spamming caod at an alarming rate. You kiddies still on christmas vacation?
The funniest thing about bob/alts calling us names, trolling and such. Is that we are still winning and you are loosing. (Even at trolling)
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xRevolveRx
Masters of Mayhem
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Posted - 2008.01.04 05:17:00 -
[572]
Originally by: Peen Long
Originally by: xRevolveRx
Glad you're sorry because yeah you're wrong. It officially stands for RA, Goons, and TCF, And you, you are the one that will be edited out mr no ticker.
Thanks for the reminder on the ticker. Thats right Ra goons and pets. Thats what I thought. You forgot to include the pets unl & kos though. Dont be shy give them the props they deserve.
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xRevolveRx
Masters of Mayhem
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Posted - 2008.01.04 05:21:00 -
[573]
Originally by: SiamFattiCosi
Originally by: xRevolveRx
too late for him to edit his post. Btw you goonies are spamming caod at an alarming rate. You kiddies still on christmas vacation?
The funniest thing about bob/alts calling us names, trolling and such. Is that we are still winning and you are loosing. (Even at trolling)
I wish I was in bob but unfortunatly I dont have 20m sp's and 3 references.
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Dramaticus
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.04 05:21:00 -
[574]
Originally by: Bone Collector44
Originally by: Orebuster
Originally by: Bone Collector44 I am saying that *most* BoB members dont suffer for ISK at all. I have more ISK right now than I did when we attacked ASCN and I would think I am one of the poorer BoB members.
I guess after sucking up rent from people you planned to abandon, getting rich off their firesales, and creating markets for them to use and lose makes people rich. Guess what, your market is now empire. Go mine some veldspar and rat in lo-sec.
Actually my market has always been empire. Well, that and the tech II loot that the non-noobs drop. Is that seriously how you guys make ISK? Ratting and 0.0 markets? How boring...
I buy out the firesales from you and your allies and relist it all at higher prices.
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Peen Long
DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.04 05:26:00 -
[575]
Originally by: xRevolveRx
Originally by: Peen Long
Originally by: xRevolveRx
Glad you're sorry because yeah you're wrong. It officially stands for RA, Goons, and TCF, And you, you are the one that will be edited out mr no ticker.
Thanks for the reminder on the ticker. Thats right Ra goons and pets. Thats what I thought. You forgot to include the pets unl & kos though. Dont be shy give them the props they deserve.
My how unobservant you are, they're cited in this very thread as helping. Are you just trolling and I'm totally taking the bait, because really credit is given all the time. www.eve-search.com is your friend.
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Bone Collector44
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.04 05:37:00 -
[576]
Originally by: Moctobot
Originally by: Bone Collector44
Originally by: Orebuster
Originally by: Bone Collector44 I am saying that *most* BoB members dont suffer for ISK at all. I have more ISK right now than I did when we attacked ASCN and I would think I am one of the poorer BoB members.
I guess after sucking up rent from people you planned to abandon, getting rich off their firesales, and creating markets for them to use and lose makes people rich. Guess what, your market is now empire. Go mine some veldspar and rat in lo-sec.
Actually my market has always been empire. Well, that and the tech II loot that the non-noobs drop. Is that seriously how you guys make ISK? Ratting and 0.0 markets? How boring...
have i just witnessed the first iteration of '0.0 sucks anyway' or what
No, you just witnessed the first iteration of "you seriously think you need 0.0 to make ISK?". I love 0.0 and can assure you I will live in 0.0 the rest of my ingame life. I just dont rely on things like ratting to make isk. That would totally suck. |
The Mittani
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.04 05:41:00 -
[577]
Originally by: Bone Collector44
No, you just witnessed the first iteration of "you seriously think you need 0.0 to make ISK?". I love 0.0 and can assure you I will live in 0.0 the rest of my ingame life. I just dont rely on things like ratting to make isk. That would totally suck.
you post so much its kind of sad how desperate you are to convince the 'eve community' that you
1. planned to fail all along 2. really belong making isk in empire
and that these are good things worthy of praise
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Darkrydar
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.04 05:45:00 -
[578]
Originally by: The Mittani
Originally by: Bone Collector44
No, you just witnessed the first iteration of "you seriously think you need 0.0 to make ISK?". I love 0.0 and can assure you I will live in 0.0 the rest of my ingame life. I just dont rely on things like ratting to make isk. That would totally suck.
you post so much its kind of sad how desperate you are to convince the 'eve community' that you
1. planned to fail all along 2. really belong making isk in empire
and that these are good things worthy of praise
Tbh, I wish CCP would nerf the hell out of agents in empire. It's far too easy to have a 5m sp alt and afk run lvl 4's.
Think we could launch a joint threadnaught?
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Orebuster
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.04 06:14:00 -
[579]
Originally by: Bone Collector44Actually my market has always been empire. Well, that and the tech II loot that the non-noobs drop. Is that seriously how you guys make ISK? Ratting and 0.0 markets? How boring...[/quote
Interesting that you ignored my comments about taking money from people you planned to abandon, very honourable.
Where is the honour in renting space you can't defend to people who trust you?
Regardless, if you don't like ratting in Jita, there is always mining in Rens...just obey the law, and you'll be OK.
I used to use a ratting raven, now I use Bob loot for isk.
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Crux Australis
MotorSaikol LadrUNZ
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Posted - 2008.01.04 06:18:00 -
[580]
Originally by: The Mittani no one will buy bob's line even without us publishing their ts chats where they moan and groan, their forum posts where they don't obey this party line, or copy and pasting all their e-rage about losing allies and losing regions
Well, why don't you post them?
I, for one, am curious to see/hear them all.
Originally by: Mynas Atoch
The contract with BOB over Period Basis served us no further, so we tore it up and binned it.
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TrevorReznik
Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.04 06:18:00 -
[581]
Originally by: Moctobot
Originally by: Bone Collector44
Originally by: Orebuster
Originally by: Bone Collector44 I am saying that *most* BoB members dont suffer for ISK at all. I have more ISK right now than I did when we attacked ASCN and I would think I am one of the poorer BoB members.
I guess after sucking up rent from people you planned to abandon, getting rich off their firesales, and creating markets for them to use and lose makes people rich. Guess what, your market is now empire. Go mine some veldspar and rat in lo-sec.
Actually my market has always been empire. Well, that and the tech II loot that the non-noobs drop. Is that seriously how you guys make ISK? Ratting and 0.0 markets? How boring...
have i just witnessed the first iteration of '0.0 sucks anyway' or what
what's the point in holding space when you can make more isk in empire?
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MarKand
Apeiron Fleet
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Posted - 2008.01.04 06:23:00 -
[582]
Edited by: MarKand on 04/01/2008 06:25:48
Originally by: The Mittani
Originally by: Bone Collector44
No, you just witnessed the first iteration of "you seriously think you need 0.0 to make ISK?". I love 0.0 and can assure you I will live in 0.0 the rest of my ingame life. I just dont rely on things like ratting to make isk. That would totally suck.
you post so much its kind of sad how desperate you are to convince the 'eve community' that you
1. planned to fail all along 2. really belong making isk in empire
and that these are good things worthy of praise
Well, as you all loved this man, here the endgame to this debate.
"" This part is stolen by me from the org poster Clurk Brodon on a internet page with text.
It seems everyone forgot what Kugutsumen wrote on his blog after hacking into the BoB internal forum last year :
http://kugutsumen.blogspot.com/2006/12/bob-is-afraid-of-aaa-goons-ra-d2.html
Monday, 25 December 2006 Quote: DB Preacher reminded everyone that the original plan was: 1. attack ascn, **** them off, take out capital fleet. 2. attack d2-, **** them off, take out capital fleet. 3. Spend next year in delve with all of eve attacking us. Sir Molle rectified dbp's post saying that it was supposed to be D2 first.
As Kugutsumen can hardly be called a BoB pet, I think it proves Molle said the truth: that's what they planned for all along.
this is were my texttheft ends"
Kinda hard to kick the man that is God to you , isnt it !?
/M
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Shoukei
Caldari Boobs Ahoy
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Posted - 2008.01.04 06:29:00 -
[583]
Originally by: MarKand you post so much its kind of sad how desperate you are to convince the 'eve community' that you
1. planned to fail all along 2. really belong making isk in empire
and that these are good things worthy of praise
Well, as you all loved this man, here the endgame to this debate.
"" This part is stolen by me from the org poster Clurk Brodon on a internet page with text.
It seems everyone forgot what Kugutsumen wrote on his blog after hacking into the BoB internal forum last year :
http://kugutsumen.blogspot.com/2006/12/bob-is-afraid-of-aaa-goons-ra-d2.html
Monday, 25 December 2006 Quote: DB Preacher reminded everyone that the original plan was: 1. attack ascn, **** them off, take out capital fleet. 2. attack d2-, **** them off, take out capital fleet. 3. Spend next year in delve with all of eve attacking us. Sir Molle rectified dbp's post saying that it was supposed to be D2 first.
As Kugutsumen can hardly be called a BoB pet, I think it proves Molle said the truth: that's what they planned for all along.
this is were my texttheft ends"
Kinda hard to kick the man that is God to you , isnt it !?
/M
who cares? lets go back to how bob suck and goons rule
here be signatures! |
Zeknichov
Life. Universe. Everything.
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Posted - 2008.01.04 06:36:00 -
[584]
Edited by: Zeknichov on 04/01/2008 06:36:15
Originally by: Darkrydar
Originally by: The Mittani
Originally by: Bone Collector44
No, you just witnessed the first iteration of "you seriously think you need 0.0 to make ISK?". I love 0.0 and can assure you I will live in 0.0 the rest of my ingame life. I just dont rely on things like ratting to make isk. That would totally suck.
you post so much its kind of sad how desperate you are to convince the 'eve community' that you
1. planned to fail all along 2. really belong making isk in empire
and that these are good things worthy of praise
Tbh, I wish CCP would nerf the hell out of agents in empire. It's far too easy to have a 5m sp alt and afk run lvl 4's.
Think we could launch a joint threadnaught?
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=669927
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Orebuster
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.04 06:49:00 -
[585]
Originally by: Shoukei DB Preacher reminded everyone that the original plan was: 1. attack ascn, **** them off, take out capital fleet. 2. attack d2-, **** them off, take out capital fleet. 3. Spend next year in delve with all of eve attacking us. Sir Molle rectified dbp's post saying that it was supposed to be D2 first. Quote:
Well, ascn is gone, d2 is gone, ...all of your allies are either gone or unimportant, what is the new plan. Make sorties out of empire? Control low sec?
This says two things, one, being a Bob ally is fatal, and planning for failure is the same as winning.
I'm still in Delve, I thought you guys wanted a good fight there. All we get is local smack that you're kicking MC in the ass.
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snerdly
snerd LTD
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Posted - 2008.01.04 07:00:00 -
[586]
Edited by: snerdly on 04/01/2008 07:05:47
Originally by: MarKand
Monday, 25 December 2006 Quote: DB Preacher reminded everyone that the original plan was: 1. attack ascn, **** them off, take out capital fleet. 2. attack d2-, **** them off, take out capital fleet. 3. Spend next year in delve with all of eve attacking us. Sir Molle rectified dbp's post saying that it was supposed to be D2 first.
As Kugutsumen can hardly be called a BoB pet, I think it proves Molle said the truth: that's what they planned for all along.[/b]
this is were my texttheft ends"
Kinda hard to kick the man that is God to you , isnt it !?
This has been addressed. Quite thoroughly, in fact. Here, read this:
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=674029&page=19#550
Or better yet, read my page 12 version, which I like better. It's written more eloquently.
So no, quoting that isn't going to work anymore.
Originally by: Securion Wolfheart
EVE might never again see such a good alliance as the one you are about to kill off, with the help of the rest of the scum and trash you have pulled together against BOB. |
The Mittani
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.04 07:17:00 -
[587]
gotta say this whole thread brings delight to my heart, it is delicious
i havent read it all yet but i think in a day or two ill sit back with a beer and peruse it and be like 'my, there are a lot of people i dislike flailing madly here' and probably burp really loudly due to all the beer and schadenfreude
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Nethers
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.01.04 07:38:00 -
[588]
The Mittani pwns
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Kyrie Elaison
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2008.01.04 07:58:00 -
[589]
Haha DICE. They're so cute, almost like a real corp.
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Don Z0LA
Caldari TunDraGon
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Posted - 2008.01.04 08:57:00 -
[590]
Originally by: Avon
Originally by: snerdly
There was a plan. The plan was, 'get all of eve to attack us'. The plan was not, and still isn't, 'fall back to Delve'. The possibility of falling back to Delve was addressed, but it was not your plan.
Originally by: The Plan 3. Spend next year in delve with all of eve attacking us.
If we did actually get kicked out of Delve I fear that the Goons may actually quit Eve on medical grounds. Whilst I am sure many of them already play one-handed, I worry that the widespread shoulder dislocations from vigourously patting their own backs would slow their forum activity to the point where they could no longer make enough posts to keep gaining the attention they so crave.
I'm worried for you guys, really, I am.
Serious business.
you know that from your own expirience (BOB) ? i mean if you dont have such issues, no one will...
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Jita Johnny
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Posted - 2008.01.04 09:14:00 -
[591]
What makes this horrible troll really lol is that it's obviously molle's plan to hang on to his internet space king title. It's the "Oh ****, better convince at least the stupider BoB members that I planned all this so they won't leave me when we're kicked out of 0.0" post. |
Darcuese
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.04 09:15:00 -
[592]
This is so very refreshing to read i must say. Pimple nation , explaining nation, wannabecoolio nation, imsomebodyinmymindnothinginRL nation,etc,etc.
For many out here posting over and over....take a lesson ...very cheap...
me, myself and I ------> |
The Mittani
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.04 09:29:00 -
[593]
Originally by: Darcuese Edited by: Darcuese on 04/01/2008 09:18:02 This is so very refreshing to read i must say. Pimple nation , explaining nation, wannabecoolio nation, imsomebodyinmymindnothinginRL nation,etc,etc.
For many out here posting over and over....take a lesson ...very cheap...
EDIT: For those that think they are doing something with my little ego....
"OH, NO. THERE ARe HERE TO GET US. IM SO SCARED and FRUSTRATED more and more every time i log in EVE. Im even dreaming nighmares every second night. DAMN THEM"
so this is how molle expects to convince everyone this has all been planned since the dawn of time, eh?
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Darcuese
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.04 09:34:00 -
[594]
Oh oh oh
Mittani quoted me again.
EVERYBODY. HAVE A DRINK on me (not as on my body , but as I will pay for it) me, myself and I ------> |
The Mittani
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.04 09:35:00 -
[595]
Originally by: Darcuese Oh oh oh
Mittani quoted me again.
EVERYBODY. HAVE A DRINK on me (not as on my body , but as I will pay for it)
i quoted you a second time booya put up for another round
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Darcuese
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.04 09:37:00 -
[596]
Originally by: The Mittani
Originally by: Darcuese Oh oh oh
Mittani quoted me again.
EVERYBODY. HAVE A DRINK on me (not as on my body , but as I will pay for it)
i quoted you a second time booya put up for another round
Can i keep diggin as well? me, myself and I ------> |
SiamFattiCosi
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.04 09:49:00 -
[597]
BBL taking my kickboxing gf for a ride in my ferrari. Sorry goon-nerds, you can't come.
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SiamFattiCosi
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.04 09:51:00 -
[598]
Keep playing that stupid spaceship game nerds. I don't need it anymore. Also, I've always made my isk in empire.
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The Mittani
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.04 10:00:00 -
[599]
Originally by: Darcuese
Can i keep diggin as well?
nah thats only for sergeant spot, every time i get to see him squirm out a rationalization on caod, i reply with 'keep digging' and pour one out for tetsujin
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Will Hunter
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.04 10:03:00 -
[600]
Originally by: Bone Collector44
Originally by: Orebuster
Originally by: Bone Collector44 I am saying that *most* BoB members dont suffer for ISK at all. I have more ISK right now than I did when we attacked ASCN and I would think I am one of the poorer BoB members.
I guess after sucking up rent from people you planned to abandon, getting rich off their firesales, and creating markets for them to use and lose makes people rich. Guess what, your market is now empire. Go mine some veldspar and rat in lo-sec.
Actually my market has always been empire. Well, that and the tech II loot that the non-noobs drop. Is that seriously how you guys make ISK? Ratting and 0.0 markets? How boring...
i sell caracals in the open market
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Pastora
Russian SOBR Red Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.04 10:04:00 -
[601]
I can believe only one thing: This thread and subject suck so big time, that it is unbelievable how anybody has any interest in posting here (including me, yes).
But sorry if I repeat someone already, I managed to read only a couple of pages of this crap. _______________________________________________ If ifs and ands were pots and pans, I would grow mushrooms in my pants. |
Will Hunter
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.04 10:08:00 -
[602]
Edited by: Will Hunter on 04/01/2008 10:08:14 double post
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CCP Navigator
C C P
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Posted - 2008.01.04 10:19:00 -
[603]
Locked.
Nothing more than trolling and hair pulling now.
Navigator, Community Representative EVE Online, CCP Games Email/Netfang |
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