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Dahin Maza Nostra oooh Shiny	Posted - 2008.01.04 13:26:00 - [1] So, I spent hours upon hours preparing, and now I can find with reasonable success rate any valid target running his mission within 2 minutes (deadspace or not). Happy times (tm cartiff), but to my dismay, nobody fits smartbombs no more and above all people don't mind me stealing from their cans. I am an unhappy plunderer meters away from the spoils yet I cannot reach them. Any ideas? Oh, and if you're hunting wartargets in motsu drop me a convo if you want me to find someone really quick. I get dibs on half the loot! Why fly covops? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0WOIwlXE9g
Xtreem Gallente Knockaround Guys Inc. Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.04 13:31:00 - [2] i sence a convo coming ur way later :D
sneakybustard	Posted - 2008.01.04 15:34:00 - [3] Edited by: sneakybustard on 04/01/2008 15:35:25 i will make my mission in eve life warning mission runners about u and all of ur kind. have a nice day
Centinel 6 Amarr The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2008.01.04 15:53:00 - [4] Sneaky, people like him have been Gankin mission runners for a long time honey. You'd be better off just covering your own 6. C6 Quote: Making 6 Inches feel like 12 one hauler at a time
Sin Fae Income Redistribution Service The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2008.01.04 16:05:00 - [5] Yeah, unfortunately in my experience, 90% of folks don't do anything, (or actually run) when you steal from them. 5% try to steal back, (and usually fail horribly). 5% try to fight (and/or get others), which is amusing I've noticed on the forums which is quite interesting, 90% "say" they would wtfpwn you in a second... heh.
Ulstan	Posted - 2008.01.04 17:01:00 - [6] Quote: Happy times (tm cartiff), but to my dismay, nobody fits smartbombs no more and above all people don't mind me stealing from their cans. Some mission runners don't even bother looting, just collect the bounties and turn in the missions as fast as possible. They may not have even been planning to loot anyway, let alone giving someone a chance to blow up their expensive ship.
Dron Yenko Endless Fury	Posted - 2008.01.04 19:06:00 - [7] Some pointers: 1. ISK farmers shoot back more often than legitimate players but have crap fitting. 2. Loot the tags from large wrecks, always! 90% of the time you will be shot at! If not - easy 20 mil. 3. Drop couple of tags from #2 in a can and see if mission runner grabs it. 4. If mission runner docks - camp the station. They will usually undock 1-2 minutes before timer runs out. 5. Widen your hunt zone - try Aramachi/Isenarios/Oichia/Saila. 6. Overload mission by shooting all the triggers. After the Raven/CNR goes poof come back in a drake and grab his wreck. I use the above tactics on ISK farmers and it works if you are patient/persistent enough. Posting with an alt since main is on 2 weeks vacation from forums... Originally by:* Niklo Game to become is more and more similar to prison for not aggressive people.
SloBones mUfFiN fAcToRy	Posted - 2008.01.04 19:10:00 - [8] Yeah I have to say most mission runner won't shoot back.
Windjammer	Posted - 2008.01.04 20:13:00 - [9] Originally by: Dahin So, I spent hours upon hours preparing, and now I can find with reasonable success rate any valid target running his mission within 2 minutes (deadspace or not). Happy times (tm cartiff), but to my dismay, nobody fits smartbombs no more and above all people don't mind me stealing from their cans. I am an unhappy plunderer meters away from the spoils yet I cannot reach them. Any ideas? Oh, and if you're hunting wartargets in motsu drop me a convo if you want me to find someone really quick. I get dibs on half the loot! You can't imagine how deep my sympathy for your plight runs. Here you got all rigged up to go play rat on high sec mission runners and they won't do what you want them to. What's wrong with them? So you're all rigged up and no place to go? Try low sec mission runners. There you can shoot at them to your hearts content whether they fall for a can flip, etc. or not. You'll take a sec hit, but you won't have to worry about Concord unless you go near sentry guns while the counter is still running. Also, a low sec mission runner might be more inclined to take you up on your challenge to their loot. You might occasionally run into another rat who'll shoot at you, but hey, you're a big tough guy. You can handle it. If you're worried about sec hits or running into other rats, grow a pair or switch to a career you're better suited to.
Kavu Corax. SOUL CARTEL	Posted - 2008.01.04 23:11:00 - [10] yes, i was just going to say the same thing as above, just find you a low sec system with some nice agents in it there are always people brave enough to come out where i have been forced to live most of my life
Dahin Maza Nostra oooh Shiny	Posted - 2008.01.05 03:15:00 - [11] Killed all the missionrunenrs I could lay my hands on in lowsec. It's... meh. They never carry serious loot. Under the olde system of probing there were craploads of cnr's running missions in lowsec, which I was more than happy to plunder. But then they decided to make probing ******monkey-friendly, and I'm forced to hit hisec runners for some serious loot. Why fly covops? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0WOIwlXE9g
Ulstan	Posted - 2008.01.05 04:14:00 - [12] Quote: But then they decided to make probing ******monkey-friendly, and I'm forced to hit hisec runners for some serious loot. Er, you'd be better off trying 0.0 mission runners. You can shoot at them freely.
techzer0 IDLE GUNS	Posted - 2008.01.05 04:18:00 - [13] Originally by: Ulstan Quote: But then they decided to make probing ****monkey-friendly, and I'm forced to hit hisec runners for some serious loot. Er, you'd be better off trying 0.0 mission runners. You can shoot at them freely. But are there 200+ in system on weekends and 10+ CNR's sitting outside station at any given time like Irjunen or Motsu/Aramachi? ------------ Originally by:** Praxis1452 you win eve
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy	Posted - 2008.01.05 09:28:00 - [14] Ok funny thing happened... we went out on a roam, found a pirate gatecamp... pirated them , found a neutral megathron... yarrr. We're headed back home and our scout finds a bestower, we're warping to the other side of the gate, the hauler just sits there looking at our scout... we get in position and our scout fires on the hauler, bam, he jumps knowing the scout cant follow.... oh crap, scout had friends POP aah, must be some valuable loot seeing as how this hauler used his brain to try and out-wit us... some Expanded Cargohold Is, wtf? Originally by: Tarminic Okay, that's it. You are on the KOS list, and you better pray that I don't have access to a locater agent.
General Coochie The Bastards	Posted - 2008.01.05 11:17:00 - [15] Originally by: Dahin Killed all the missionrunenrs I could lay my hands on in lowsec. It's... meh. They never carry serious loot. Under the olde system of probing there were craploads of cnr's running missions in lowsec, which I was more than happy to plunder. But then they decided to make probing ****monkey-friendly, and I'm forced to hit hisec runners for some serious loot. Spotted the problem there. Off course they have good "loot", most BCs in low sec doing missions are rigged in my experience. Thats a 30-60mill ransom right there then add cost for mods and insurance. If you find a BS (wich isnt that rare) they are also often rigged. 3 ccc riggs, and T2 fittings gives nice ransoms. Popping mish runners means you can be left with the **tiest loot for maybe 10mill when the ship and fittings was worth 100mill. This is also true for a CNR, what if the booster and shield amp gets destroyed, then you get nothing when you could have ransomed him for 2+ bill isk.
Dahin Maza Nostra oooh Shiny	Posted - 2008.01.05 11:23:00 - [16] Edited by: Dahin on 05/01/2008 11:24:43 we're not pirates. We're surprise pvp'ers, as such no ransom is (usually) offered. Plus, shiny killmails make my epeen larger, can't deny that EDIT: oh, and trying to gank people in 0.0 is a totally different thing since they do tend to spot you in local. Why fly covops? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0WOIwlXE9g
General Coochie The Bastards	Posted - 2008.01.05 11:38:00 - [17] Originally by: Dahin Edited by: Dahin on 05/01/2008 11:24:59 Edited by: Dahin on 05/01/2008 11:24:43 we're not pirates. We're surprise pvp'ers, as such no ransom is (usually) offered. Plus, shiny killmails make my epeen larger, can't deny that EDIT: oh, and trying to gank people in 0.0 misisons is a totally different thing since they do tend to spot you in local. I thought so Cant have cookie and eat it :) If its only kill mails you want BCs in low sec should be enough. But theres a reason you aint satisifed with a BC kill, its to easy, to common. Finding and killing a CNR wouldn't be something spectacular if you could do it once or twice a day. Beeing so rare to find and kill is what makes it the holy grail of mission gankin (and the isk you can gain from it off course )
Robert Rumpletweezer	Posted - 2008.01.05 14:28:00 - [18] Can u steal from special mission cans? I.E. steal the damsel when they blow up the Pleasure Gardens in "Damsel in Distress" or militants in "unauthorised military presence." If you can, then steal it, then they have a choice, attack you or fail the mission OFC, some mission items can be bought off the market, but not all of them.
Dron Yenko Endless Fury	Posted - 2008.01.05 23:01:00 - [19] Originally by: Robert Rumpletweezer Can u steal from special mission cans? I.E. steal the damsel when they blow up the Pleasure Gardens in "Damsel in Distress" or militants in "unauthorised military presence." If you can, then steal it, then they have a choice, attack you or fail the mission OFC, some mission items can be bought off the market, but not all of them. Or if they don't shoot - just contract them damsel for 100 mil... Sometimes it works. Some runners are rather pay you the dough than take a standing hit. Originally by: Niklo Game to become is more and more similar to prison for not aggressive people.
Dahin Maza Nostra oooh Shiny	Posted - 2008.01.06 01:52:00 - [20] interesting idea. Can someone tell me what those missions are and what I'm looking to loot? Also, how to spot the mission would be nice since I have no idea what they are. I just stole AND salvaged many peoples cans, no reaction apart from warping out/brining in their alt to scoop as much loot as he can. Why fly covops? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0WOIwlXE9g
marie blueprint	Posted - 2008.01.06 04:53:00 - [21] Originally by: Robert Rumpletweezer Can u steal from special mission cans? I.E. steal the damsel when they blow up the Pleasure Gardens in "Damsel in Distress" or militants in "unauthorised military presence." If you can, then steal it, then they have a choice, attack you or fail the mission OFC, some mission items can be bought off the market, but not all of them. that activity is a bannable offence now
Dahin Maza Nostra oooh Shiny	Posted - 2008.01.06 04:58:00 - [22] Edited by: Dahin on 06/01/2008 04:58:31 Originally by: marie blueprint Originally by: Robert Rumpletweezer Can u steal from special mission cans? I.E. steal the damsel when they blow up the Pleasure Gardens in "Damsel in Distress" or militants in "unauthorised military presence." If you can, then steal it, then they have a choice, attack you or fail the mission OFC, some mission items can be bought off the market, but not all of them. that activity is a bannable offence now I really doubt it. Care to point me to the related announcement? I hear lods of random ridiculous stuff from people in local. Why fly covops? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0WOIwlXE9g
ry ry StateCorp Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2008.01.06 11:49:00 - [23] reading local is a bannable offence now. *again.
Dron Yenko Endless Fury	Posted - 2008.01.06 19:12:00 - [24] Originally by: marie blueprint Originally by: Robert Rumpletweezer Can u steal from special mission cans? I.E. steal the damsel when they blow up the Pleasure Gardens in "Damsel in Distress" or militants in "unauthorised military presence." If you can, then steal it, then they have a choice, attack you or fail the mission OFC, some mission items can be bought off the market, but not all of them. that activity is a bannable offence now I doubt that too. But if it is - I would really love to hear CCP's reasoning for that. Because it is not nice to bust mission and ransom "Damsel in Distress"? Proof or STFU. Originally by: Niklo Game to become is more and more similar to prison for not aggressive people.
Kurogauna	Posted - 2008.01.06 20:03:00 - [25] what abount remote repairing NPC's? If lucky enough, try to repair a scrambling frig. Anyway, doing this will drop down the incomes of the mission runner, propose to stop against isks. I am not sure about the following things - does trigger the concordken ? - makes you criminal flagged ? Maybe enough upsetting for the carebear open fire. Try the lofty scam too.
Durzel	Posted - 2008.01.06 20:18:00 - [26] Originally by: Kurogauna what abount remote repairing NPC's? If lucky enough, try to repair a scrambling frig. Anyway, doing this will drop down the incomes of the mission runner, propose to stop against isks. I am not sure about the following things - does trigger the concordken ? - makes you criminal flagged ? Maybe enough upsetting for the carebear open fire. Try the lofty scam too. Pretty sure repping pirate NPCs is considered a criminal act and results in the usual Concord hug & tickle.
Dahin Maza Nostra oooh Shiny	Posted - 2008.01.07 11:53:00 - [27] Edited by: Dahin on 07/01/2008 11:54:48 The lofty scam is something that lofty does best, social engineering. My strong point always was finding people wherever they might hide, and I'm trying to emphasize on this one. Also apply endless patience. And success you can have! I've noticed that real people try to ignore you, mostly. But people's patience has limits, and as such I applied lots and lots of stalking. Wherever the phat cnr's would go I would be there scooping all their loot with endless dilligence. And it worked! Farmers will ignore you unless you start hurting their wallet. The best way to do that is ofc as mentioned before stealing those precious tags. Also cleaning all the salvages with a destroyer seems to **** em right off, but they usually warp off the missionspot as soon as you warp out. I found that leaving the system encourages them to go back to the mission (since they are on the clock). But if you mess with them for a good while, you will notice an entire group of characters avoiding you any way possible, including docking till you leave the sol (hey, I made it to the farmers coffee break chat --avoid at all costs). Oh, and I did notice a LOT of farmer cnr's with damn gist loot on them. Where is the world coming to? On a final note, if you don't get loads of hatemails in chinese, you're a carebear :P Can someone translate those for me? It's the classic codepage blocks of nothingness. Why fly covops? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0WOIwlXE9g
Windjammer	Posted - 2008.01.09 00:04:00 - [28] Originally by: Dahin Edited by: Dahin on 05/01/2008 11:24:59 Edited by: Dahin on 05/01/2008 11:24:43 we're not pirates. We're surprise pvp'ers, as such no ransom is (usually) offered. Wow. The gutless wonder of it all. "Surprise PvPer's". That's a new one. If you crawl like a rat and squeak like a rat, you're a rat. You don't even have the intestinal fortitude to own up to being one.
nether void Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2008.01.09 00:34:00 - [29] This thread is disgusting. --------------------------- nethervoid - since '97 [UO\|EQ\|SB\|SWG\|PS\|EVE\|HZ\|NWN\|VG\|WoW]
SupaFlyTNT Darwin With Attitude oooh Shiny	Posted - 2008.01.09 02:11:00 - [30] Originally by: Windjammer Originally by: Dahin Edited by: Dahin on 05/01/2008 11:24:59 Edited by: Dahin on 05/01/2008 11:24:43 we're not pirates. We're surprise pvp'ers, as such no ransom is (usually) offered. Wow. The gutless wonder of it all. "Surprise PvPer's". That's a new one. If you crawl like a rat and squeak like a rat, you're a rat. You don't even have the intestinal fortitude to own up to being one. squeak for me dahin

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