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Dex Nederland
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.01.04 20:06:00 -
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Quote: The use of Black Ops Jump Drives to escape a CONCORD response in high-security space by jumping to low-security space has been deemed an exploit. This tactic has been reported to the QA team and will be resolved in the near future.
Anyone caught using this exploit will be punished accordingly, as this can easily be tracked and verified in our logs.
Alright so let me get this straight, using the properties of a ship class that is at least in terms of background or spirit of the class to do evade an enemy or the local authority is an exploit!
Black Ops Battleships are suppose to be able to do exactly what the exploit describes: Evade the response of a superior force once you have made the hit and run attack.
The ships are not cheap and assassinating a target in high sec and escaping is exactly what kind of thing a Black Ops Battleship might do.
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Ki An
Gallente Filiolus Of Bellum
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Posted - 2008.01.04 20:08:00 -
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While I'd like to agree with you (screw concord tbh), evading them is an exploit, no matter how you do it.
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Van Steiza
Logistical Anomaly
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Posted - 2008.01.04 20:09:00 -
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lol I think thats ace that you can do that Remember your NOT SAFE in high sec your SAFER,
Way to go removing another sandbox manouver. :(
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Ashley Sky
Mesopotamia iMune Empire
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Posted - 2008.01.04 20:10:00 -
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Oops, CCP you did it again.
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.04 20:10:00 -
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It is not new news that doing something to evade a CONCORD response is considered an exploit.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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Angry Alt
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.01.04 20:11:00 -
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Are you really that dense?
Concord rolling in and popping people who break the law IS intended, anything that circumvents that is unintended and therefore an exploit.
Come on, use your brain.
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Van Steiza
Logistical Anomaly
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Posted - 2008.01.04 20:12:00 -
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Originally by: An Anarchyyt It is not new news that doing something to evade a CONCORD response is considered an exploit.
Hey dude hows it goin.
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Illyrinia
Caldari Epiphyte Mining and Exploration Combined Planetary Union
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Posted - 2008.01.04 20:13:00 -
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so running away in a shuttle is a exploit? when i get bored i suicide a rookie ship, jump into a shuttle and see how many book marks and planets/stations i can warp to before concord pops the shuttle
You are trying to post to a locked thread CONCORD has been notified
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Wynona
Mesopotamia iMune Empire
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Posted - 2008.01.04 20:14:00 -
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Where do we go to read all these kind of rules?
iMune Empire FAQ's |

Frug
Zenithal Harvest
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Posted - 2008.01.04 20:14:00 -
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Originally by: Dex Nederland
Alright so let me get this straight, using the properties of a ship class that is at least in terms of background or spirit of the class to do evade an enemy or the local authority is an exploit!
Black Ops Battleships are suppose to be able to do exactly what the exploit describes: Evade the response of a superior force once you have made the hit and run attack.
You would have a point if concord never forgot what you did. Unfortunately they forget and stop trying to kill you after 15 minutes. That's a limitation in the way they're coded, but it does not make sense that you could do it, leave, and never face future punishment.
And of course if they patched this by having them kill you the next time you come into high-sec, you would just come back in a shuttle. It's a little ridiculous to say that you should be allowed to suicide people in your black ops ship with impunity.
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Alski
Gallente Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.04 20:14:00 -
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That is simultaneously both so awesome and so wrong if it hadnt been deemed an exploit, this would make me want one. -
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Frug
Zenithal Harvest
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Posted - 2008.01.04 20:15:00 -
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Originally by: Illyrinia so running away in a shuttle is a exploit? when i get bored i suicide a rookie ship, jump into a shuttle and see how many book marks and planets/stations i can warp to before concord pops the shuttle
It's not an exploit if they eventually pop you. If they never catch you, you've somehow exploited mechanics.
I tried it in a condor skilled/fit for agility and they caught me pretty quick :(
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Richard Phallus
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Posted - 2008.01.04 20:16:00 -
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I wonder if people would whine more or less if they disable the jump drive from highsec all together. --
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.04 20:16:00 -
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Originally by: Illyrinia so running away in a shuttle is a exploit? when i get bored i suicide a rookie ship, jump into a shuttle and see how many book marks and planets/stations i can warp to before concord pops the shuttle
If CONCORD is still blowing you up, then it isn't an exploit. I don't know if its ever been tested if you can jump ships like that.
Originally by: Van Steiza
Originally by: An Anarchyyt It is not new news that doing something to evade a CONCORD response is considered an exploit.
Hey dude hows it goin.
Much better since you left. 
And I can't stress just how much I still love that signature
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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Harley Futar
The Commissum
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Posted - 2008.01.04 20:16:00 -
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Originally by: Illyrinia so running away in a shuttle is a exploit? when i get bored i suicide a rookie ship, jump into a shuttle and see how many book marks and planets/stations i can warp to before concord pops the shuttle
I'd like to know what kind of shuttle you have that you can **** off Concord :P
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Yohanes Flame
Point-Zero SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.04 20:17:00 -
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Edited by: Yohanes Flame on 04/01/2008 20:19:05 If it is intended for concord to kill you everytime then make then one shot not annoy. And by definition a tank would be avoiding death.
EDIT: and here you thought people actually found a use for the BO ahhahaha nope still not one. ____________________________ One Thead to rule them all - Boot.ini pre-patch thread
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Frug
Zenithal Harvest
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Posted - 2008.01.04 20:18:00 -
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Originally by: Richard Phallus I wonder if people would whine more or less if they disable the jump drive from highsec all together.
Jump freighter pilots should be able to get past the choke points into low sec.
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Van Steiza
Logistical Anomaly
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Posted - 2008.01.04 20:18:00 -
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Originally by: An Anarchyyt
Originally by: Illyrinia so running away in a shuttle is a exploit? when i get bored i suicide a rookie ship, jump into a shuttle and see how many book marks and planets/stations i can warp to before concord pops the shuttle
If CONCORD is still blowing you up, then it isn't an exploit. I don't know if its ever been tested if you can jump ships like that.
Originally by: Van Steiza
Originally by: An Anarchyyt It is not new news that doing something to evade a CONCORD response is considered an exploit.
Hey dude hows it goin.
Much better since you left. 
And I can't stress just how much I still love that signature
:( I havnt left im still in the corp Il be back soon :P Hope ur doin good bro. Your like one of ma fav people :P other then omega lol.
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Ashley Sky
Mesopotamia iMune Empire
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Posted - 2008.01.04 20:20:00 -
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It all makes sense... I found a video that shows how the game mechanics development process works...
Linkage
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.04 20:23:00 -
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Originally by: Ashley Sky It all makes sense... I found a video that shows how the game mechanics development process works...
Linkage
Since your noobishness is showing. I suggest you watch these two videos to understand CONCORD.
Zombies CONCORDOKKEN
Originally by: Van Steiza :( I havnt left im still in the corp Il be back soon :P Hope ur doin good bro. Your like one of ma fav people :P other then omega lol.
Oh I am doing great. Need to make some ISK soon, but still great. You better hurry up and come back then, before there is nothing left in Delve to kill.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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Richard Phallus
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Posted - 2008.01.04 20:24:00 -
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Originally by: Frug
Originally by: Richard Phallus I wonder if people would whine more or less if they disable the jump drive from highsec all together.
Jump freighter pilots should be able to get past the choke points into low sec.
Not saying they should do it, but it seems the most obvious coding change that prevents this exploit if people are whining that they have to restrain themselves. --
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Yohanes Flame
Point-Zero SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.04 20:26:00 -
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If someone is willing to risk the isk spent on a BO for some high sec kills then isn't that whole point? ____________________________ One Thead to rule them all - Boot.ini pre-patch thread
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Van Steiza
Logistical Anomaly
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Posted - 2008.01.04 20:30:00 -
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Originally by: An Anarchyyt
Originally by: Ashley Sky It all makes sense... I found a video that shows how the game mechanics development process works...
Linkage
Since your noobishness is showing. I suggest you watch these two videos to understand CONCORD.
Zombies CONCORDOKKEN
Originally by: Van Steiza :( I havnt left im still in the corp Il be back soon :P Hope ur doin good bro. Your like one of ma fav people :P other then omega lol.
Oh I am doing great. Need to make some ISK soon, but still great. You better hurry up and come back then, before there is nothing left in Delve to kill.
DAMMIT you guys are going THAT fast :( Ill be back soon :).
Hey man hopefully il have alot of isk when i return i may be able to donate some :P.
Anyhoo back on topic THis would be cool if it was alowed but i can see the whiner uprising.
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Minerva Vulcan
Caldari The Nexus Foundation Endless Horizon
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Posted - 2008.01.04 20:31:00 -
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Quote: Anyone caught using this exploit will be punished accordingly, as this can easily be tracked and verified in our logs.
So they *do* have logs!
I wonder if they show anything... _______________________________ I need new voices in my head, To speak my secret evils with. I need new lovers in my bed, To be my friends and special pets. |

Tarminic
Forsaken Resistance The Last Stand
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Posted - 2008.01.04 20:32:00 -
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Originally by: Yohanes Flame If someone is willing to risk the isk spent on a BO for some high sec kills then isn't that whole point?
If you invoke the wrath of CONCORD, then your ship is to be destroyed. Doing anything else is considered an exploit. ---------------- Tarminic - 31 Million SP in Forum Warfare Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.78 |

Yohanes Flame
Point-Zero SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.04 20:33:00 -
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Edited by: Yohanes Flame on 04/01/2008 20:34:08 So slow boating back to the gate tanking is an exploit.
Also are not low sec turrets owned by concord? ____________________________ One Thead to rule them all - Boot.ini pre-patch thread
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Nyx Avatar
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Posted - 2008.01.04 20:34:00 -
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Is it any wonder no ones really buying these things?
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.04 20:34:00 -
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Edited by: An Anarchyyt on 04/01/2008 20:34:23
Originally by: Van Steiza DAMMIT you guys are going THAT fast :( Ill be back soon :).
Hey man hopefully il have alot of isk when i return i may be able to donate some :P.
Anyhoo back on topic THis would be cool if it was alowed but i can see the whiner uprising.
It has only recently started in full force, but we all know how it's gonna end.
Once I start doing more production, then I'll have more money, and it'll be great.
Originally by: Yohanes Flame So slow boating back to the gate tanking is an exploit.
See above video.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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Richard Phallus
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Posted - 2008.01.04 20:34:00 -
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Originally by: Yohanes Flame So slow boating back to the gate tanking is an exploit.
Anything that allows you to not die to CONCORD is an exploit. Yes. Zero exceptions. --
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Yohanes Flame
Point-Zero SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.04 20:35:00 -
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K i guess tanks are are exploit might as well remove all armor and shield mods ASAP. ____________________________ One Thead to rule them all - Boot.ini pre-patch thread
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