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Pitt Bull
Caldari Naval Reserve
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Posted - 2008.01.05 15:15:00 -
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Why can I run Call of Duty 4 Modern Warfare with very high settings, vivid real time graphics, models running around and explosions going off, yet still I experience low framerates with the very basic looking EVE graphics? Nothing in EVE has moving parts, they are floating boxes ith bump mapping on them. Please explain why your graphics optimization is so poor. Its the number one reason why I decided to leave this game behind.
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SlayerDrake
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Posted - 2008.01.05 15:18:00 -
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can i have you're not-so-shiney stuff ?
how did you survive before the patch 
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Pitt Bull
Caldari Naval Reserve
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Posted - 2008.01.05 15:23:00 -
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Yeah before the patch I was getting over 60fps (frame-limited) steady, no lag or stuttering. Then I upgraded to "premium" and now all the sudden I get 15-30 fps, only 5 other ships on my screen...
I get 40-60 fps in COD4, a brand new, very intense FPS game with over 50 players in a map and tons of action and movement going on. I just don't understand it.
p.s.- you can have my stuff, please allow a 700M ISK shipping and handling fee (plus applicable taxes.)
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SlayerDrake
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Posted - 2008.01.05 15:26:00 -
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you do realize you can keep playing on the classic client right ?
and i just send the isk , the transfer is probably lagging you wallet like this crappy lagging game but trust me its transfered!
plz contract your stuff now
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Kaar
Art of War
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Posted - 2008.01.05 15:27:00 -
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I typed a nice informative response but I thought, whats the point if you have already decided to leave?
So... Can I have your stuff?
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Pitt Bull
Caldari Naval Reserve
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Posted - 2008.01.05 15:35:00 -
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AMD 3000+, Radeon HD2400 Pro OC 256mb DDR2, 1 GB DDR2-400 RAM
This runs COD4 better than EVE? Please explain.
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Rua
Temples of Boom
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Posted - 2008.01.05 15:37:00 -
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Go back to the classic client then. The reason it is still around is so that people who for whatever reason struggle to get good fps on premium (like me) can still play effectively.
If the game play of EVE is not enough to keep you then just gtfo and play whatever the latest super shiny and polished copypasta game is.
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Kyra Felann
Gallente
Elite Storm Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.01.05 15:39:00 -
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I get perfectly fine performance in Eve premium (and COD4 for that matter). I don't know what you're doing wrong.
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Pitt Bull
Caldari Naval Reserve
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Posted - 2008.01.05 15:39:00 -
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 Originally by: Rua
Go back to the classic client then. The reason it is still around is so that people who for whatever reason struggle to get good fps on premium (like me) can still play effectively.
I play COD4 with vivid graphics and intense battles. Why would I go back to 2003 to play a MMO? That's making very little sense and its adding even less to the thread. Are you people brain dead enough to ignore blatant coding problems or something?
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Pitt Bull
Caldari Naval Reserve
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Posted - 2008.01.05 15:40:00 -
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Originally by: Kyra Felann
I get perfectly fine performance in Eve premium (and COD4 for that matter). I don't know what you're doing wrong.
Obviously you have very little idea what this thread is about. But please, do post your system specs so we can see why you can run it so much better. It could be you spent thousands more on your computer.... lol 
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Rua
Temples of Boom
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Posted - 2008.01.05 15:42:00 -
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As i said with your attitude of "ooo shiny" just go and play "oh shiny" games. If your number one reason for quiting EVE is graphics then just go.
Also there is most likely a problem with your system. My 6200LE matches your fps on premium. My friends 7900 gs blows it away.
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Pitt Bull
Caldari Naval Reserve
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Posted - 2008.01.05 15:44:00 -
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Originally by: Rua
As i said with your attitude of "ooo shiny" just go and play "oh shiny" games. If your number one reason for quiting EVE is graphics then just go.
Also there is most likely a problem with your system. My 6200LE matches your fps on premium. My friends 7900 gs blows it away.
oo shiney? Are you serious? EVE premium graphics are FAR from ooo shiney.... they are like ooo WTF? Dude, go watch a YouTube video of COD4, its not OO SHINEY graphics, its intense fire fights in realistic scenery. The SAME card and computer run it at 40-60 fps, so I would like someone to simply explain, WHY? Why such ****ty framerates in EVE with WAY less graphic intensity?
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Yosarian Manth
Caldari
Southern Cross Empire
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Posted - 2008.01.05 15:45:00 -
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Just at a glance, your CPU may be the bottleneck for EVE.
COD4 and EVE are so different I can't see how a performance comparison could be at all valid.
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Pitt Bull
Caldari Naval Reserve
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Posted - 2008.01.05 15:47:00 -
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Originally by: Yosarian Manth
COD4 and EVE are so different I can't see how a performance comparison could be at all valid.
They are exactly the same. 3D Graphics are the same accross all games. The only difference is in how you use the code. I'm assuming that EVE's ****ty programmers still can't figure out how to optimize their tl;dr code.
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Rua
Temples of Boom
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Posted - 2008.01.05 15:48:00 -
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You miss my point.
You are jerking over the graphics of another game, and *****ing about the graphics in EVE.
I am telling you to just gtfo and play shiny games if thats what gets you off. I'll keep playing EVE because of the unique gameplay 
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Pitt Bull
Caldari Naval Reserve
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Posted - 2008.01.05 15:49:00 -
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Originally by: Rua
You miss my point.
You are jerking over the graphics of another game, and *****ing about the graphics in EVE.
I am telling you to just gtfo and play shiny games if thats what gets you off. I'll keep playing EVE because of the unique gameplay
Okay, I get your point. Its just so void of actual content that I see no reason why you would triple post the same statement 3 times and still not understand why you're being told to gtfo of the thread.
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Rua
Temples of Boom
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Posted - 2008.01.05 15:50:00 -
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haha so your computer is not playing EVE propperly, but other people dont have issues?
Must be EVE's fault. Silly me. I'll leave you to your wine sir.
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Pitt Bull
Caldari Naval Reserve
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Posted - 2008.01.05 15:52:00 -
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Originally by: Rua
haha so your computer is not playing EVE propperly, but other people dont have issues?
Must be EVE's fault. Silly me. I'll leave you to your wine sir.
You don't get it, do you? This dude with a 6200LE says he gets **** framerates too. I bet if he went to play COD4 he would probably wonder why that is too, since there he would get double the frames, AND double the graphics. (Double the gameplay and enjoyment too, but thats for another thread entirely.)
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Sleepkevert
Rionnag Alba
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Posted - 2008.01.05 15:53:00 -
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Set your caching options to medium, shadows to medium and turn HDR off. If you still get lausy performance then, you should seriously think about updating your drivers etc.
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Rua
Temples of Boom
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Posted - 2008.01.05 15:54:00 -
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So in the end you are quitting EVE because the graphics are not as good as cod4.
Bu-Bai
What else do you want us to say?
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Yosarian Manth
Caldari
Southern Cross Empire
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Posted - 2008.01.05 15:56:00 -
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Pit Bull, you've obviously made up your mind about this so I doubt you'd listen even if I could be bothered to give any kind of analysis of the two engines.
1. Think about the resources each developer has.
2. Think about what their priorities might be.
3. Think about where all the development time goes for mainstream shooters, they sell because they look pretty and you get to kill communists/arabs/insert popular evil figure.
4. Why so angry?
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Sleepkevert
Rionnag Alba
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Posted - 2008.01.05 15:58:00 -
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Originally by: Yosarian Manth
4. Why so angry?
He's a pit bull, duh! 
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Pitt Bull
Caldari Naval Reserve
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Posted - 2008.01.05 16:04:00 -
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Yeah no point staying really. That I can agree with.
All EVE has to offer is a second job and a way to be a paying beta tester. Its a ******* boring game and a total waste of all of your life otherwise. The graphics are the only thing to stare at in this game, other than Math.
I would feel sorry for you, but no one I know pays to play this game, so I could care less what you douchebags have to put up with. You all seem pretty much the same: introverted, anti-social and never gonna get laid (or at least, not to someone that weighs less than 300 pounds.)
Anyway, toodaloo.
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Sleepkevert
Rionnag Alba
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Posted - 2008.01.05 16:04:00 -
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Originally by: Pitt Bull
Yeah no point staying really. That I can agree with.
All EVE has to offer is a second job and a way to be a paying beta tester. Its a ******* boring game and a total waste of all of your life otherwise. The graphics are the only thing to stare at in this game, other than Math.
I would feel sorry for you, but no one I know pays to play this game, so I could care less what you douchebags have to put up with. You all seem pretty much the same: introverted, anti-social and never gonna get laid (or at least, not to someone that weighs less than 300 pounds.)
Anyway, toodaloo.
Before you go, can i have your stuff for free?
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Pitt Bull
Caldari Naval Reserve
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Posted - 2008.01.05 16:06:00 -
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Oh as a last post, please keep playing EVE. Don't go to Star Trek Online, we don't need low life*****suckers in that game when its released. Pirating is EVE's big thing, so all you "pirates" and cool guys better just stay here and wait for Ambulation.
And I'm not angry, I just enjoy using the English language to its fullest extent, dumb ****s. Haha.
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Pitt Bull
Caldari Naval Reserve
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Posted - 2008.01.05 16:14:00 -
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Originally by: Prometheus Exenthal
Why did you make this thread if you already made up you mind?
Read the thread, post again with a question that makes sense.
I made up my mind that EVE has **** programmers. The thread is simply asking, why?
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Neth'Rae
Gallente
Neth's Workshop
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Posted - 2008.01.05 16:28:00 -
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Originally by: Yosarian Manth
Edited by: Yosarian Manth on 05/01/2008 16:14:02
Edited by: Yosarian Manth on 05/01/2008 16:13:40
Pitt Bull. You're the one trying to insult people on an internet forum. Nuff said about intelligence.
Moderator please?
qftw.. 
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Nidus
Caldari
The JORG Corporation
Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2008.01.05 16:44:00 -
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Originally by: Pitt Bull
Read the thread, post again with a question that makes sense.
I made up my mind that EVE has **** programmers. The thread is simply asking, why?
They got bad programmers? Not by the MMO standard at least, 'tough if you compare them to dull never-changing 'normal' games i guess the quality of their finished product is lacking due to the short time they got on creating new content.
Or creating an entirely new graphics engine for that matter -.-'
And when it comes down to the games performance on your rig, maybe, just maybe, its you who have configured EVE to make it fit with your computer, instead of CCP making a mistake?
So if you'd like some help in getting the game to run better, it would be nice if you could post your current graphics settings. Because EVE is quite CPU/Ram intensive, both of which your computer is, impo, severely lacking in. (And even without taking the new generation of cards in count your current 2400 is average at best, far from a powerhouse and I'm doubting that it can handle high res+bloom+hdr+shadows)
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(E6750 C2D@2,67GHz, 3gb@667Mhz, 1950Pro 512MB)
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vdog
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Posted - 2008.01.05 17:20:00 -
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Try running EvE with everything at it's lowest settings. No shadows for you. Your graphics card is the bottom of the barrel in it's generation, hell if you read reviews its not recommended to play games with it. Your processor (as well as most of your RAM) is outdated, that is also probably aggravating the problem.
Also, comparing two game engines with totally different objectives is like comparing an apple to a carrot (oranges are round like apples). Doesn't work.
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Gnulpie
Minmatar
Miner Tech
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Posted - 2008.01.05 17:40:00 -
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Originally by: Pitt Bull
Why can I run Call of Duty 4 Modern Warfare with very high settings, vivid real time graphics, models running around and explosions going off, yet still I experience low framerates with the very basic looking EVE graphics?
One reason is that the ships, stargates and stations have a really high polygon count.
On the other hand I was quite disappointed by the trinity engine to be honest. As the op mentioned, and he is right, other modern 3d games have much better looking graphics. I just hope that with more experience the ccp graphics team will come up with much better stuff in the future.
On the other hand:
Games like CoD work with many tricks to hide buggy ugly artifacts which appear due to their engine optimization. You can do that in such environments like flat earth (just build a hill/house for example where the engine would produce something nasty otherwise). But Eve (and other spacegames) work in comepletely different environments and such tricks don't work there this easily, if at all.
When the op said that all 3d games are the same he disqualified himself completely. They are not at all the same - they can be completely different. The restrains can be totally different and one engine would produce wonderful results in one environment and the same engine would produce ugly and very buggy results in some other environment with other conditions.
For those people who flamed the op, get a clue yourself and post a resonable reply instead of yelling 'your fault, go away, stupid noob'. After all the op IS right, Eve produces really not the best pictures - but who cares! I play because Eve gives nice enough pictures and more important has a fantastic gameplay for years! I wonder if the op can build up his own small empire over years in CoD
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