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Bish Ounen
Gallente
Omni-Core Freedom Fighters
Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2008.01.06 03:07:00 -
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Outstrip the US for the first time in over 100 years.
First of all, as an American, I'd just like to send my congratulations across the pond. Well done.
Just to comment on the article itself, I had no idea that there was such a disparity for so long. Like many Americans I viewed Britain as a very wealthy (if small) Island nation, that had always had a very high standard of living. I was unaware just how far out in front we were in America, and how far behind you Brits were. Well, now that you have caught up, we can have an enjoyable and spirited economic competition!
Assuming we don't go and screw it all up by electing another Clinton to office this fall  , and can flush out some of the socialists  from our ranks, I'm sure America will be happily passing you up again. (Watch your backs!  )
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Sister Impotentata
Elite Angels Of Death
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Posted - 2008.01.06 03:11:00 -
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 Originally by: Bish Ounen
Assuming we don't go and screw it all up by electing another Clinton to office this fall , and can flush out some of the socialists from our ranks, I'm sure America will be happily passing you up again. (Watch your backs! )
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Um, yeah. And just how far did we get by electing another Bush? Or perhaps you own oil interests?
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Originally by: BB
Lazy Lob and Crazy Cob
are weaving webs to wind me.
I am far more sweet than other meat,
but still they cannot find me!
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Bish Ounen
Gallente
Omni-Core Freedom Fighters
Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2008.01.06 03:16:00 -
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Originally by: Sister Impotentata
Originally by: Bish Ounen
Assuming we don't go and screw it all up by electing another Clinton to office this fall , and can flush out some of the socialists from our ranks, I'm sure America will be happily passing you up again. (Watch your backs! )
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Um, yeah. And just how far did we get by electing another Bush? Or perhaps you own oil interests?
Look. I'm here to just congratulate my UK pals. Leave the DailyKOS tinfoilhattery BS for another thread, I don't want mine locked.
(Oh, and in case you were wondering, I'm with Fred.)
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Sister Impotentata
Elite Angels Of Death
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Posted - 2008.01.06 03:23:00 -
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Originally by: Bish Ounen
Look. I'm here to just congratulate my UK pals. Leave the DailyKOS tinfoilhattery BS for another thread, I don't want mine locked.
(Oh, and in case you were wondering, I'm with Fred.)
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Fair enough. Sorry. Let this thread live!
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TANSTAAFL
Originally by: BB
Lazy Lob and Crazy Cob
are weaving webs to wind me.
I am far more sweet than other meat,
but still they cannot find me!
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Frygok
Minmatar
Malicious Intentions
The Church.
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Posted - 2008.01.06 03:30:00 -
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Then perhaps, dear OP, you should leave US politics the **** out of this thread? It's a flamebait if I ever saw one.
And tbh, I <3 living in a small country (Denmark).
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Benglada
Round Table Enterprises
New Age Solutions Amalgamated
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Posted - 2008.01.06 03:37:00 -
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Canadas been above you guys for....forever
Booya.
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0.0 is the Final Frontier. Bring money and friends.
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar
mUfFiN fAcToRy
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Posted - 2008.01.06 05:21:00 -
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Booya, eh?
Originally by: Tarminic
Okay, that's it. You are on the KOS list, and you better pray that I don't have access to a locater agent. 
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Zantrei Kordisin
True Centii
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Posted - 2008.01.06 05:34:00 -
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Edited by: Zantrei Kordisin on 06/01/2008 05:34:48
The article is incorrect on one major part - GDP does not equal 'living standards'. Living standards are more appropriately measured by healthcare availability, education, wealth equality, access to food/water, access to entertainment and so on. It is quite likely that due to the massive wealth gap in the USA, that the UK (and France/Germany for that matter) has had better living standards this past century... Especially considering things like the 'slight' healthcare issues that there are in the USA.
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Lithalnas
Amarr
Headcrabs
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Posted - 2008.01.06 06:52:00 -
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remember, your GDP worth may be more than ours but our snickers bars are still 1$ while yours are 1'lb'. Same bar, yours just cost more.
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Lewis Breaker
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Posted - 2008.01.06 07:49:00 -
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This is the pound sterling sign ú, we do not buy things with weight!
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Benglada
Round Table Enterprises
New Age Solutions Amalgamated
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Posted - 2008.01.06 08:33:00 -
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Originally by: Lewis Breaker
This is the pound sterling sign ú, we do not buy things with weight!
"So you mean i can get 300 snickers bars if i trade in my wife? SCORE!"
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Samantha DuGalle
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Posted - 2008.01.06 08:35:00 -
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Pffft. Come to Australia  . We've got sun, beaches and babes.
On the other hand we've also got Evil Pookie...
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illusha
North Face Force
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Posted - 2008.01.06 08:59:00 -
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Pffft. Come to Australia . We've got sun, beaches and babes.
Yeah, you've got sun and you'll have skin cancer by the time when you are in your 40's. Also, you have sharks on your beaches, have fun swimming in that. Good luck with that. I'd like to invite everybody to the Soviet Union (My Homeland) where there is no such thing as living standards :P
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Shinnen
Caldari
Northern Intelligence
The Reckoning.
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Posted - 2008.01.06 09:00:00 -
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Switzerland has been on top for ages.
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Captain FletcherMiles
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Posted - 2008.01.06 09:20:00 -
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We need to sort China out before they become a problem
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Wild Rho
Amarr
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2008.01.06 10:43:00 -
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I secretly think that report really means UK folks are starting to get as fat as our American cousins...
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SpiritOne
Amarr
Vigilantes Rubb
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Posted - 2008.01.06 10:54:00 -
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Originally by: Lithalnas
remember, your GDP worth may be more than ours but our snickers bars are still 1$ while yours are 1'lb'. Same bar, yours just cost more.
0.o our snickers bars cause ú0.40 thats 0.79$. The only time they cost a pound is if you buy them in a stupid place like a Theme park or cinema were they charge you outta ya arse for stuff
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annoing
Amarr
MisFunk Inc.
Frontline.
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Posted - 2008.01.06 11:06:00 -
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Originally by: Lithalnas
remember, your GDP worth may be more than ours but our snickers bars are still 1$ while yours are 1'lb'. Same bar, yours just cost more.
Silly silly silly... ours were, and should still be, called Marathons. I remember they were bigger, had more nuts and more caramel.. now we get the watered down american version, smaller, more expensive and less nuts. Sometimes its just best not to follow our cowboy cousins from across the pond.
PS: To the original op. Your economic downturn has nothing to do with Clinton. Thank Dubya, his dodgy economic policies, his ability to over borrow from the IMC and put the USA futher into debt now that it has ever been. Regardless of the next presidents political affiliation, it will take alot of extremely hard work and some very unpopular decisions to get you solvent again.
Originally by: Ian Holloway
Smooth as a cashmere codpiece
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Kayna Eelai
Gallente
Paxton Industries
Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2008.01.06 11:06:00 -
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lol, it's not that UK "catched up"... it's that US "fell back into stoneage" the very day bush got elected
i mean... just look at your precioussssss dollar... worth less and less every day.
besides... the scripters strike surely affected you a lot, being a nation brainwashed by TV and all...
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Constantine Arcanum
IMPERIAL SENATE
Pure.
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Posted - 2008.01.06 12:42:00 -
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depends what is meant by living standards and how it's interpreted. you could mean development, which is hard to rate anyway, as whilst the USA has had a higher GDP than the UK for a long time, the UK has had a higher life expectancy than the USA for a long time too.
but yeah that was a pointless thing for me to say.
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Rethmynon
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Posted - 2008.01.06 16:32:00 -
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I just had to do it - page four of the attached pdf will show you why I feel smug :)
http://www.gov.je/ChiefMinister/Statistics/News/JerseyEconomicDigest2007.htm
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.06 16:47:00 -
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Edited by: Patch86 on 06/01/2008 16:47:43
Originally by: Samantha DuGalle
Pffft. Come to Australia . We've got sun, beaches and babes.
On the other hand we've also got Evil Pookie...
You also have EVE's DT in the middle of your playing prime time. This makes Australia someway behind Belize on the quality of life scale
$1 Snickers bar = rip off, I've never bought a Snickers for more than 45p before.
Its misleading to call GDP a study of quality of life. For one, it doesn't take account of the fact things are cheaper in the US than the UK (petrol, houses, luxury goods, etc). It doesn't take account that something like 1% of USA's population has 98% of the wealth (or somesuch similar) while the disparity is much less dramatic in the UK- this means that the "average wage" for an average person would be higher in the UK than in America, discounting those top 2 million people or so. It ignores the fact that the UK has higher taxes, and ignores what those taxes are spent on ("free" healthcare in the UK, massive military to fight foreigners for the US, or whatever). It ignores quality of employment (proportion of manual labour versus skilled labour, average weekly working hours, and so forth).
In other words, a measurement of GDP lets us compare nothing except who has the highest GDP 
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Troye
Gallente
Strix Armaments and Defence
Acheron Federation
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Posted - 2008.01.06 16:53:00 -
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Originally by: Patch86
Its misleading to call GDP a study of quality of life. For one, it doesn't take account of the fact things are cheaper in the US than the UK (petrol, houses, luxury goods, etc). It doesn't take account that something like 1% of USA's population has 98% of the wealth (or somesuch similar) while the disparity is much less dramatic in the UK- this means that the "average wage" for an average person would be higher in the UK than in America, discounting those top 2 million people or so. It ignores the fact that the UK has higher taxes, and ignores what those taxes are spent on ("free" healthcare in the UK, massive military to fight foreigners for the US, or whatever). It ignores quality of employment (proportion of manual labour versus skilled labour, average weekly working hours, and so forth).
In other words, a measurement of GDP lets us compare nothing except who has the highest GDP
You said what I wanted to say but better, totaly agree, a better example of quality of life would be average life expectancy as this wagers in factors of not just public health care but also levels of stress (People in rich, developed countries suffer from stress and overwork which contributes to lower life expectancy).
Originally by: GM Nova
What the hell???
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pwnedgato
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Posted - 2008.01.06 16:56:00 -
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Yeah you guys have a higher standard of living now and free health care blah blah, but guess what? I can legally own a stupid amount of weapons that I have no clear use for.
Originally by: Crumplecorn
These is a forum for this.
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Araxmas
An Eye For An Eye
Rule of Three
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Posted - 2008.01.06 17:27:00 -
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Originally by: pwnedgato
Edited by: pwnedgato on 06/01/2008 16:57:56
Yeah you guys have a higher standard of living now and free health care blah blah but guess what? I can legally own a stupid amount of weapons that I have no clear use for.
Well I can drink 3 years before American's can.
Although a gun would be fun.
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Coconut Joe
VIRTUAL LIFE VANGUARD
Te-Ka
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Posted - 2008.01.06 17:36:00 -
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Those aren't really good stats you guys are using there. Most people I've seen use the Human Development index as a better overall quality of living. Linkage Coincidently, Iceland appears at the top of the list, but the U.S. is above the U.K. by this measurement.
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EvilPhog
Amarr
Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2008.01.06 17:37:00 -
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*sips mojito*
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nubinator
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Posted - 2008.01.06 18:03:00 -
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Ixianus
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Posted - 2008.01.07 02:45:00 -
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Originally by: Bish Ounen
Assuming we don't go and screw it all up by electing another Clinton to office this fall , and can flush out some of the socialists from our ranks, I'm sure America will be happily passing you up again. (Watch your backs! )
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Yeah I know. I hate having money. I hate not having to pay 200k for a broken arm in a car crash. On for the Republicans. Onwards onwards, downward downward.
Don't throw in a comment like that if you don't want political talk. Your favored Republicans are the ones that put us below the British, as your article states, so yeah. Think.
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Ademaro Imre
Caldari
Eye of God
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.01.07 04:02:00 -
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Edited by: Ademaro Imre on 07/01/2008 04:03:17
Originally by: Ixianus
Originally by: Bish Ounen
Assuming we don't go and screw it all up by electing another Clinton to office this fall , and can flush out some of the socialists from our ranks, I'm sure America will be happily passing you up again. (Watch your backs! )
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Yeah I know. I hate having money. I hate not having to pay 200k for a broken arm in a car crash. On for the Republicans. Onwards onwards, downward downward.
Don't throw in a comment like that if you don't want political talk. Your favored Republicans are the ones that put us below the British, as your article states, so yeah. Think.
have you ever posted the price breakdown or some summary of that broken arm bill? I did ask before and I am still curious about that. I had broken ribs in my accident, and the total cost was less than 2K and the car insurance covered that. 2K plus chiropractor visits I make on occasion.
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