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Lord Wiggin
Furian Necromongers
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Posted - 2011.09.07 16:38:00 -
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Dear OP. DRF is like the fotm, in a year you won't remember who they are.... Nothing lasts, and it won't require a supercap nerf to do it. Politics will do what no nerd could.
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Brooks Puuntai
Nomadic Asylum
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Posted - 2011.09.07 16:45:00 -
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ThunkMonkey wrote:So the question is how long before DRF wins EVE and everyone else in 0.0 gives up or quits.
The combination of CCP giving the North 95% of the tech moons, DRF running bots 24/7 and CCP turning a blind eye. DRF has unlimited isk and field's supper caps like everyone else fields Battle ships.
No, not mad just wondering when or if EVE will be fixed.
DRF has supper caps? Oh **** things just got serious.
Sadly I don't care because now i'm hungry.
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Gnaw LF
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Posted - 2011.09.07 16:49:00 -
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Satav wrote:Vincent Athena wrote:Is there a list of which alliances are considered DRF somewhere? I had a link at one time, but it seems to be a dead one.
How much of 0.0 does DRF have now? http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/Verite/influence.pngthe DRF is a little loose in some areas but the main powerhouses are. White Noise Solar (Fleet/Wing) Legion of XXXDeath Shadow of XXXDeath Moon Tribe Voodoo Technologies Bloodbound. Cluster of Rebirth Dead Moon Enterprises. Str8nge Brew The last 6 are pets or industrial.
Thats the "original" DRF list, the alliances that fought NC, and the list is incomplete. You forgot Red Alliance and Intrepid Crossing.
Here is the more complete list of DRF:
Original DRF
Legion of XXXDeath (Shadow of XXDeath is a renter alliance) Solar Fleet (Solar Wing are renters) White Noise. (White Angels, renters) Red Alliance (Red Citizens, renters)
Pets:
Intrepid Crossing United Pod Service Ultima Ration Intergalactic Exports Group Jagged Alliance and a bunch more
Expanded DRF (the new bluefest)
Raiden. Northern Coalition. Ew0ke Controlled Chaos Red Legion (new English speaking branch of Red Alliance) Waterboard Viking Empire Not Found. Territorial Control Unit
and many more
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Puppet Mas'ter
Umbra Exitium Order Of The Unforgiving
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Posted - 2011.09.07 17:09:00 -
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So what is the list of the Russian corp/alliances?
Id kinda like ppl who dont know how bad it is to get an idea as if you look at a influence map you dont get (russian) by the names of all that are, and if you dont knbow who's who, it looks like its all owned by different corps. Ppl not in the know on this look at the blobs of hundreds of corps andf dont see the problem. They dont know 75% of them are one big group lol CCP: Madness!!! This is FiS Us: Fis? *chuckle* (Gò»-¦Gûí-¦n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ Us: THIS IS EVE |

Prince Kobol
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Posted - 2011.09.07 17:11:00 -
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*Puts Tin Foil hat On*
Maybe the DRF are secretly CCP in disguise out to make war so everybody spends lots of isk and thats is also the reason why they are allowed to use bots with impunity.
*takes tin foil off* |

Puppet Mas'ter
Umbra Exitium Order Of The Unforgiving
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Posted - 2011.09.07 17:26:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:*Puts Tin Foil hat On*
Maybe the DRF are secretly CCP in disguise out to make war so everybody spends lots of isk and thats is also the reason why they are allowed to use bots with impunity.
*takes tin foil off*
more likely DRF is giving CCP kickbacks to allow them to bot
oh yeah *takes tin foil off*
CCP: Madness!!! This is FiS Us: Fis? *chuckle* (Gò»-¦Gûí-¦n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ Us: THIS IS EVE |

Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2011.09.07 17:33:00 -
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Puppet Mas'ter wrote:So what is the list of the Russian corp/alliances?
Id kinda like ppl who dont know how bad it is to get an idea as if you look at a influence map you dont get (russian) by the names of all that are, and if you dont knbow who's who, it looks like its all owned by different corps. Ppl not in the know on this look at the blobs of hundreds of corps andf dont see the problem. They dont know 75% of them are one big group lol
Gnaw LF wrote:
Original DRF
Legion of XXXDeath (Shadow of XXDeath is a renter alliance) Solar Fleet (Solar Wing are renters) White Noise. (White Angels, renters) Red Alliance (Red Citizens, renters)
This is how bad it is.
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ThunkMonkey
High Flyers RED.OverLord
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Posted - 2011.09.08 04:57:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:They have untill the supercap nerf to do it.
Winter is coming.
I think the problem has gone far beyond a supercap nerf. I think CCP hung the rest of EVE out to dry and forgot about us. |

Cyzlaki
Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.09.08 05:06:00 -
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Delete Super Capital Ships. No more hot dropping. No more DD's, no more OP super carriers.
Winter is coming. |

Skex Relbore
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2011.09.08 05:16:00 -
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Seems to me it wasn't all that long ago that the Northern Coalition was an unstoppable permanent force in Null at it was only a matter or time until all of null would be an NC BFF NAPFEST.
/looks around nullsec
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Ladie Scarlet
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.09.08 13:10:00 -
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Once the supercaps get nerfed the DRF will be dealt with. |

Satav
Latinum Exports
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Posted - 2011.09.12 16:34:00 -
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Ladie Scarlet wrote:Once the supercaps get nerfed the DRF will be dealt with.
says a goonswarm noob.
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Skunk Gracklaw
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.09.12 16:44:00 -
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Satav wrote:says a goonswarm noob.
Goonswarm noobs are winning Eve.
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Richard Aiel
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.09.12 16:49:00 -
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They aleady did win EVE see link for proof
link
Satav wrote:Ladie Scarlet wrote:Once the supercaps get nerfed the DRF will be dealt with. says a goonswarm noob.
Goonswarm noobs killed bob... do not underestimate the power of the Dark Side "If the unfaithful would rage-quit, let them do so. And let not the gates of New Eden strike them 'pon the ass ere they leave." Quoth the Hillmar |

Avon
Versatech Co. Raiden.
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Posted - 2011.09.12 16:49:00 -
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Skunk Gracklaw wrote:Satav wrote:says a goonswarm noob.
Goonswarm noobs are whining Eve.
FYP
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Leeroy McJenkins
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.09.12 17:49:00 -
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Quote: Goonswarm noobs are whining Eve.
Hey Bro, you guys got that Hel replaced yet? |

Avon
Versatech Co. Raiden.
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Posted - 2011.09.12 17:51:00 -
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Leeroy McJenkins wrote:Quote: Goonswarm noobs are whining Eve.
Hey Bro, you guys got that Hel replaced yet?
We went with another Aeon and Nyx rather than a direct replacement for the Hel.
Personally I wouldn't have bothered with the Aeon. |

Leeroy McJenkins
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.09.12 19:07:00 -
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Avon wrote:Leeroy McJenkins wrote:Quote: Goonswarm noobs are whining Eve.
Hey Bro, you guys got that Hel replaced yet? We went with another Aeon and Nyx rather than a direct replacement for the Hel. Personally I wouldn't have bothered with the Aeon.
So what you mean is that you had two other pilots specced out to get into 2 more super caps anyway and the specced out Hel pilot is out of luck. |

Simetraz
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.09.12 19:40:00 -
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ThunkMonkey wrote:So the question is how long before DRF wins EVE and everyone else in 0.0 gives up or quits.
The combination of CCP giving the North 95% of the tech moons, DRF running bots 24/7 and CCP turning a blind eye. DRF has unlimited isk and field's supper caps like everyone else fields Battle ships.
No, not mad just wondering when or if EVE will be fixed.
The players decide what happens in 0.0
If the players in 0.0 get tired of the DRF, they can ban together and remove them. If not, well then I guess DRF win or won depending on your point of view.
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Ra Demen
The Right Hand of Zod
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Posted - 2011.09.12 22:22:00 -
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Simetraz wrote:ThunkMonkey wrote:So the question is how long before DRF wins EVE and everyone else in 0.0 gives up or quits.
The combination of CCP giving the North 95% of the tech moons, DRF running bots 24/7 and CCP turning a blind eye. DRF has unlimited isk and field's supper caps like everyone else fields Battle ships.
No, not mad just wondering when or if EVE will be fixed.
The players decide what happens in 0.0 If the players in 0.0 get tired of the DRF, they can ban together and remove them. If not, well then I guess DRF win or won depending on your point of view.
Or you take the Goon route and whine on every forum ever created and whine in ccp's faces via the csm until they get sick of it and do what you are begging for (hopefully in the winter so the meme usage is appropriate).
But of course what they are really campaigning for is improvements to flying in space generally. Yeah right.
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Soldarius
Peek-A-Boo Bombers
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Posted - 2011.09.12 23:32:00 -
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get on DOTLAN. View the New Eden universe map. Draw a line from 11 o'clock to 5 o'clock. Generally, everything on the right is DRF. Everything on the left is not.
ofc, this only applies to non-NPC nulsec space. |

Richard Aiel
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.09.13 02:28:00 -
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need more goons to reply I dont think I have them all on ignore. "If the unfaithful would rage-quit, let them do so. And let not the gates of New Eden strike them 'pon the ass ere they leave." Quoth the Hillmar |

Skunk Gracklaw
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.09.13 03:31:00 -
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Ra Demen wrote:Or you take the Goon route and whine on every forum ever created and whine in ccp's faces via the csm until they get sick of it and do what you are begging for (hopefully in the winter so the meme usage is appropriate).
But of course what they are really campaigning for is improvements to flying in space generally. Yeah right.
I love posts like this. On the one hand Winter can't come fast enough but on the other hand watching you ~elite pvpers~ thrashing about over a nerf that hasn't even happened yet is endlessly entertaining. Never stop posting...your vodka flavored tears are refreshing.
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Fawcks
Avoid and Evade Epsilon Shimmy Alliance
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Posted - 2011.09.13 03:51:00 -
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What does DRF mean? |

Headerman
Quovis Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2011.09.13 04:01:00 -
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So what exactly are the goonys doing with all their bot made isk? Buying more rifters?
Why don't you buy some SCs?
You have all that space there and what have you done with it? Nothing. |

ThunkMonkey
High Flyers RED.OverLord
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Posted - 2011.09.13 12:31:00 -
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Simetraz wrote:ThunkMonkey wrote:So the question is how long before DRF wins EVE and everyone else in 0.0 gives up or quits.
The combination of CCP giving the North 95% of the tech moons, DRF running bots 24/7 and CCP turning a blind eye. DRF has unlimited isk and field's supper caps like everyone else fields Battle ships.
No, not mad just wondering when or if EVE will be fixed.
The players decide what happens in 0.0 If the players in 0.0 get tired of the DRF, they can ban together and remove them. If not, well then I guess DRF win or won depending on your point of view.
The players no longer decide what happens in 0.0 !
Have you ever seen what happens in a system with 100 plus Mother ships? hell have you ever seen what happens w/ 50 Mother ships...............the node crashes, and the fight is over before it begins.
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PAPULA
Malevolence. Territorial Claim Unit
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Posted - 2011.09.13 12:43:00 -
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I think in time ccp will remove 0.0, only high sec will remain.
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Sandrestal
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.09.13 12:54:00 -
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Well it seems to me that DRF is done taking more space as I see everyone is now down in Delve looking for gud fights. |

Jee'ta
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.09.13 13:39:00 -
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(Stupid forums, guess they timeout)
Nah, the DRF is still in the process of cleaning up -A-, mostly because having a common enemy is good for alliance cohesion than any serious desire for the space I suspect.
The DRF has pretty much won the null-sec competition in a masterful display of alliance culture, diplomacy and logistics that has smashed their supposed counter-balance (the NC). There's no force remaining that can seriously threaten their sov or even catch up given the resources they have at their disposal.
That's mostly CCP being bad. They should have realised some coalition getting super-cap superiority and fielding super-cap blobs was inevitable when they buffed them and the QEN construction numbers told them it was happening way in advance. But they did nothing. At this point even if they do give super-caps a severe nerf I'm not sure it matters.
Instead we'll probably have to wait for the coalition to turn on itself or rot from the inside like the NC did. But that could mean months or years of largely stagnant null-sec in terms of big Sov wars. |

Jebidus Skari
Comply Or Die Drunk 'n' Disorderly
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Posted - 2011.09.13 13:44:00 -
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eve is dead - and for the first time i really believe that ...sadly |
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