I was in Etherium Reach a few days ago with my stealth bomber. I swear to god i felt like I was in Germany 1939 in the industrial areas. Poses there are shitting supercaps faster than I can go to the toilet for serious business. I landed in a mining op... I lagged out. It's sad how much money comes from that place.

Wait, so an area of 0.0 is populated and full of life and to you thats a bad thing?

They have untill the supercap nerf to do it.

Winter is coming.

Germany had supercaps? And they lost?


How?

LOL they can't win because the bigger they get the more haited they become, and more people will try to hold off against them, eventually when it comes down to all the goons in 1 system vs all the drf in all the other systems, the goons will have numbers to protect there cyno jammer 24/7 lol

/me just using "goons" as an example

Then of course, theres only so long till WN, NCdot, PL, Raiden get tired of being drf lackies

is it sad that CCP has to nerf an entire class of ships to do anything about one corp?

Wait, I thought BoB, IT, NC, and Goons already won EVE a long time ago?

Russians can't be killed.

They don't have souls.

Trust me. I am a Professional Russian.

And as always, have nice day.

Russians can't be killed.

They don't have souls.

Trust me. I am a Professional Russian.

And as always, have nice day.

Look at Grath defending his russian overlords.

Is there a list of which alliances are considered DRF somewhere? I had a link at one time, but it seems to be a dead one.

How much of 0.0 does DRF have now?

So the question is how long before DRF wins EVE and everyone else in 0.0 gives up or quits.

The combination of CCP giving the North 95% of the tech moons, DRF running bots 24/7 and CCP turning a blind eye. DRF has unlimited isk and field's supper caps like everyone else fields Battle ships.

No, not mad just wondering when or if EVE will be fixed.

http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/Verite/influence.png

the DRF is a little loose in some areas but the main powerhouses are.

White Noise
Solar (Fleet/Wing)
Legion of XXXDeath
Shadow of XXXDeath

Moon Tribe
Voodoo Technologies
Bloodbound.
Cluster of Rebirth
Dead Moon Enterprises.
Str8nge Brew

The last 6 are pets or industrial.

*Puts Tin Foil hat On*

Maybe the DRF are secretly CCP in disguise out to make war so everybody spends lots of isk and thats is also the reason why they are allowed to use bots with impunity.

*takes tin foil off*

So what is the list of the Russian corp/alliances?

Id kinda like ppl who dont know how bad it is to get an idea as if you look at a influence map you dont get (russian) by the names of all that are, and if you dont knbow who's who, it looks like its all owned by different corps. Ppl not in the know on this look at the blobs of hundreds of corps andf dont see the problem. They dont know 75% of them are one big group lol

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Original DRF

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Legion of XXXDeath (Shadow of XXDeath is a renter alliance)
Solar Fleet (Solar Wing are renters)
White Noise. (White Angels, renters)
Red Alliance (Red Citizens, renters)

They have untill the supercap nerf to do it.

Winter is coming.

Once the supercaps get nerfed the DRF will be dealt with.

says a goonswarm noob.

says a goonswarm noob.

Goonswarm noobs are whining Eve.

Goonswarm noobs are whining Eve.

Hey Bro, you guys got that Hel replaced yet?

We went with another Aeon and Nyx rather than a direct replacement for the Hel.

Personally I wouldn't have bothered with the Aeon.

So the question is how long before DRF wins EVE and everyone else in 0.0 gives up or quits.

The combination of CCP giving the North 95% of the tech moons, DRF running bots 24/7 and CCP turning a blind eye. DRF has unlimited isk and field's supper caps like everyone else fields Battle ships.

No, not mad just wondering when or if EVE will be fixed.

The players decide what happens in 0.0

If the players in 0.0 get tired of the DRF, they can ban together and remove them.
If not, well then I guess DRF win or won depending on your point of view.

Or you take the Goon route and whine on every forum ever created and whine in ccp's faces via the csm until they get sick of it and do what you are begging for (hopefully in the winter so the meme usage is appropriate).

But of course what they are really campaigning for is improvements to flying in space generally. Yeah right.

The players decide what happens in 0.0

If the players in 0.0 get tired of the DRF, they can ban together and remove them.
If not, well then I guess DRF win or won depending on your point of view.

(Stupid forums, guess they timeout)

Nah, the DRF is still in the process of cleaning up -A-, mostly because having a common enemy is good for alliance cohesion than any serious desire for the space I suspect.

The DRF has pretty much won the null-sec competition in a masterful display of alliance culture, diplomacy and logistics that has smashed their supposed counter-balance (the NC). There's no force remaining that can seriously threaten their sov or even catch up given the resources they have at their disposal.

That's mostly CCP being bad. They should have realised some coalition getting super-cap superiority and fielding super-cap blobs was inevitable when they buffed them and the QEN construction numbers told them it was happening way in advance. But they did nothing. At this point even if they do give super-caps a severe nerf I'm not sure it matters.

Instead we'll probably have to wait for the coalition to turn on itself or rot from the inside like the NC did. But that could mean months or years of largely stagnant null-sec in terms of big Sov wars.

No. It was mostly CCP.

A super-ship that takes massive resources, effort and secure space will tend to enhance "older" powers in game and make it hard for new entrants into null-sec. So unsurprisingly it became a battle between those powers for who would come out on top. You could even say it was NC tech versus DRF drone minerals but now one coalition has both those resources.

Incidentally the super-capital parts of BoB are still around and doing rather nicely as Raiden (or in PL).

FYP

http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/Verite/influence.png

the DRF is a little loose in some areas but the main powerhouses are.

White Noise
Solar (Fleet/Wing)
Legion of XXXDeath
Shadow of XXXDeath

Moon Tribe
Voodoo Technologies
Bloodbound.
Cluster of Rebirth
Dead Moon Enterprises.
Str8nge Brew
Intrepid Crossing
Raiden.
NCDot.
PL

The last 10 are pets or industrial.

DRF is building supers faster than they can be blown up. On the field 7 titans DD logistics ships and the suppers that do go down are replaced the next day. Take not of the pilots who fly them and even when the blow up they show up on kill mails the day after in new super's.

They have the isk source and industrial base to keep this up.

A super nerf is nice so another fleet type can stand a chance. What we need more is a counter to supers. DRF will still be okay as they can produce what ever the FOTM is faster than anyother alliance.

Even without supers they took -a- cyno jammers down, you can't blame supers for everything athough they where a large part of why -a- could not strike back.

right now there is no way to hurt a blob if you can not out blob them. this is wrong. A fleet should at least be able to inflict damage to these alliance without getting hot droped out of existance. DRF is winning because no one can hurt them, give smaller fleets a way to strike and bleed the beast and we will.

/shrug.

It's in CCP's interests to keep the toy interesting for as many players as possible, that's sort of where their paycheck comes from. But feel free to suggest there is a moral dimension in there if you like.

The main reason the DRF have grown so strong is everyone else just wants ratting systems, not industrial bases. The systems are considered garbage to your average 0.0 alliance.

If the DRF are pushed out of their space it will just go unused, unless Mining is suddenly really popular among goons or whoever it is.

It's in CCP's interests to keep the toy interesting for as many players as possible, that's sort of where their paycheck comes from. But feel free to suggest there is a moral dimension in there if you like.

Wait, I thought BoB, IT, NC, and Goons already won EVE a long time ago?

Another part of the reason is that CCP after this Incarna fiasco is never going to bash on the Bot users and cancel yeat another 5000 accounts.

So Bots plus space crappy for human operated alliance but very mineral rich = Industrial powerhouse with combat balls that spits tons of gear.

This will be fun .

Once the supercaps get nerfed the DRF will be dealt with.

I know it's really hard for some people to accept, but there are many people out there who honestly enjoy mining and manufacturing. I happen to be one of them, and am not a bot as far as i know. It could be one of those Twilight Zone things where i find out later i am in fact a bot, but for now at least i am unaware. I've also never met anyone who bots, but i have met lots of players with large fleets of alts, who keep an eye on local and warp to a POS when a neut arrives, which amusingly is what people think is a sign of a bot.

Honestly, the way claims of bottery are thrown around so freely i'm surprised they're still taken seriously. I know my own experiences have shown these self appointed bot detectors have no idea what they're doing.

What does DRF mean?