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Fuse
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Posted - 2008.01.06 19:06:00 -
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If you have a +8.0 standing with an NPC corp you should be able to bribe station managers to eject docked ships. The dialog would go something like this with the an agent in the station. You: "I need a favor one that I am willing to pay a million isk for". Agent: "Your faction with our corporation is excellent so I am willing to eject the player to these coordinates it will take 15 minutes." Note: This could be offline and online players and at max faction they would eject them to wherever you need them to be. This would make faction very important and it would make pvp work. As it is now people just sit in stations and talk trash. 0.o It's not you... no wait it is you. |

Fuse
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Posted - 2008.01.06 19:10:00 -
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Originally by: Lyn Z No
Yes 0.o It's not you... no wait it is you. |

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Posted - 2008.01.06 19:20:00 -
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Originally by: Cambarus As much fun as it sounds to be gankable even when in a station or logged off, I'm gonna have to say that this is a bad idea 
You could not do this in high security unless you are a war with the other corp. 0.o It's not you... no wait it is you. |

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Posted - 2008.01.07 05:41:00 -
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Most people say no... a few give reasons for saying no... that's ok by me. If you want to sit outside stations while you camp all day and night and pay to do this that is entirely fine by me. I did go a bit far with ejecting offline players. I think that half the people saying no disagree being ejected while offline. If you don't like the idea let this thread die. Your the one bumping it and giving it life. 0.o It's not you... no wait it is you. |

Fuse
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Posted - 2008.01.07 05:59:00 -
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This idea brings accountability to table. If your that big bad pirate that attacks someone or if your in a corp that is under attack it makes them or you responsible for your actions. You have to love people that can sit there and gank people at a jumpgate and when it comes to defend themselves they run and hide in a station. This makes things even and it is more realistic of how things work in nature. It's either this or attacking a station directly and we know that will not happen in a >5.0 system in eve. 0.o It's not you... no wait it is you. |

Fuse
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Posted - 2008.01.07 06:17:00 -
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Edited by: Fuse on 07/01/2008 06:19:03
Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker Edited by: Niccolado Starwalker on 07/01/2008 06:00:55
Originally by: Fuse Edited by: Fuse on 06/01/2008 19:30:19 Edited by: Fuse on 06/01/2008 19:28:13 If you have a +8.0 standing with an NPC corp you should be able to bribe station managers to eject docked ships. The dialog would go something like this with the an agent in the station. You: "I need a favor one that I am willing to pay a million isk for". Agent: "Your faction with our corporation is excellent so I am willing to eject the player to these coordinates it will take 15 minutes." Note: This could be offline and online players and at max faction they would eject them to wherever you need them to be. This would make faction very important and it would make pvp work. As it is now people just sit in stations and talk trash.
EDIT: This idea does not have to go to this extreme. You could warn the person with an eject timer. "The station manager has requested that you leave the dock area... The area your ship is docked in requires maintenence. If you do not vacate in 15 minutes we will eject your ship!". The logged off part may be a bad idea but this would require people to log off.
Tell me.. Would you accept people to bribe Concord to hide their corp presence so they cant be war decced, for the same period and price as a war decc?
I think this is just as good an argument as your argument. Its just that my argument will favor the carebears, while your will favor the argessive pvp'ers.
Let me put this in a different context. Say this was the current day and your friend is going to a new town and he is ruthlessly gunned down. You gather up 30 of your friends and go to avenge the death of your friend. You get to the town and there are five people in a hotel in town who killed your friend and they are talking trash. Will you sit outside the hotel and wait forever or will you ask the manager to send them out? Sitting in a station for protection makes about as much sense as this. I can understand the logic if your gang owned the hotel they would never throw you out. If it was a neutral party would they accept having their hotel filled with bullet holes or would they have security throw them out? 0.o It's not you... no wait it is you. |

Fuse
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Posted - 2008.01.07 06:53:00 -
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Originally by: Caligulus Edited by: Caligulus on 07/01/2008 06:45:44 A) There should be a counter to this. My +9 faction standing should trump your +8 standing.
B) This then becomes another weapon to abuse new players with. So there would need to be some formula based on character age and standing where a younger character age protects you from this kind of exploitation.
C) I think this could all be solved by revisiting the aggression timers for high security and low security space. GCF's (Global Criminal Flags) should prevent docking entirely. Aggression timers should prevent docking or exit from the system for at least 2 minutes. This would force people to commit as well as allowing those trigger happy morons to think a little longer and harder about who and what they engage or wind up dead.
Wow... Someone who can actually constructively discuss an idea. People that post one liners are like idiots with copy and paste canned garbage responses. 0.o It's not you... no wait it is you. |

Fuse
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Posted - 2008.01.07 06:57:00 -
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Originally by: johnny woo Something is telling me that the OP
1) Is a mission runner 2) Doesn't want to go to low sec because he make get blown up BBBBBAAAAAWWWWWW 3) Kind of likes PvP but doesn't want to risk anything 4) Will be satisfied by killing offline players to get his PvP fix
You don't know what you are talking about. You can ask any of the old school well known pirate guys if they have seen me in the field. 0.o It's not you... no wait it is you. |

Fuse
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Posted - 2008.01.07 07:06:00 -
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Edited by: Fuse on 07/01/2008 07:06:40
Originally by: port22 As much as I would love to be able to undock people at times..
NO!
And still NO!
This is not 'I want to undock people online.' There is annoying gameplay in every game, no exclusion here. There are times when EVERYONE docks and uses it to their benefit. Many enemies past and present use these tactics. I dont knock it as when it suits me, ill dock if there are 3v1 against me, or intel is 7 reds ready to jump in from next door.
Its a game mechanic, build a bridge and get over it plz.
Ok fine . It's just an idea. I don't own eve online (yet) . I'm not a dev and I will not make it happen. This is just a discussion everyone have a beer or something calm down. 0.o It's not you... no wait it is you. |

Fuse
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Posted - 2008.01.07 07:11:00 -
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Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari epic failure of a thread. This ranks to be one of the more failing ones.
Sad.
I would rather try and fail then not try at all. Just wait a few months there will be another thread like this one (not by me). I just toss ideas around. 0.o It's not you... no wait it is you. |

Fuse
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Posted - 2008.01.07 07:16:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Friendly
Originally by: Fuse
Wow... Someone who can actually constructively discuss an idea. People that post one liners are like idiots with copy and paste canned garbage responses.
lol, no we post a one-line answer because your idea is fantastically stupid, and obviously so if you spend 10 seconds thinking about it. We just can't believe you think it's a good idea.
lol
Yes. You know what everyone feels and thinks because you are some sort of a f####ng know it all. 0.o It's not you... no wait it is you. |
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