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Monarch	Posted - 2004.03.20 04:47:00 - [1] [ 2004.03.17 00:13:44 ] Hatepants > is actually catch .. [ 2004.03.17 00:13:57 ] Hatepants > on the outskirts of the areas we hunt in [ 2004.03.17 00:14:36 ] Monarch > what would the price be for myself, 1 corp, and 1 other bud. [ 2004.03.17 00:14:54 ] Hatepants > what is the size of the corp ? [ 2004.03.17 00:15:35 ] Monarch > nto all of them would come down of course... one sec. lemme see size of corp. [ 2004.03.17 00:15:38 ] Monarch > smaller.. [ 2004.03.17 00:15:54 ] Monarch > 28 members. [ 2004.03.17 00:16:04 ] Monarch > i only imagine that MAYBE 5 would come down. [ 2004.03.17 00:16:44 ] Hatepants > if those numbers remain accurate .. i would say bout 8 per week .. [ 2004.03.17 00:17:03 ] Monarch > roughly 1m per person per week correct?? [ 2004.03.17 00:17:12 ] Hatepants > approx .. yes [ 2004.03.17 00:17:19 ] Monarch > that sounds fair to me. [ 2004.03.17 00:17:31 ] Monarch > who does the isk go to?? [ 2004.03.17 00:17:39 ] Monarch > and are there any good spawns for npcs down here?? [ 2004.03.17 00:17:52 ] Hatepants > me .. cave .. swish .. or macarvid [ 2004.03.17 00:18:01 ] Monarch > all same guy?? o.O [ 2004.03.17 00:18:09 ] Hatepants > no the ceos [ 2004.03.17 00:18:13 ] Monarch > ok [ 2004.03.17 00:18:28 ] Hatepants > once isk is recieved your standings will be changed to +10 and corp mail will go out [ 2004.03.17 00:18:29 ] Monarch > i'll send my 1m to hate and i'll forward the isk to you also. [ 2004.03.17 00:18:49 ] Hatepants > one sec .. [ 2004.03.17 00:18:53 ] Monarch > i'll talk to the rest of the guys and see if they'd like to venture out here, i know for a fact 3 others will. [ 2004.03.17 00:19:02 ] Monarch > but i only have 1m atm :p [ 2004.03.17 00:19:29 ] Hatepants > i would prefer that u wait till u know for sure how many will be coming .. [ 2004.03.17 00:19:32 ] Hatepants > avoids confusing [ 2004.03.17 00:19:36 ] Hatepants > confusion [ 2004.03.17 00:20:24 ] Monarch > is it possible to just put all of UNI on the list and then i can give you my word that you will recieve isk for every person that comes down here?? [ 2004.03.17 00:20:40 ] Monarch > i'll pay 1m and my buddy 'the end' will pay 1m also right now. [ 2004.03.17 00:21:00 ] Hatepants > we are not in the habit of setting standings until payment has been secured .. [ 2004.03.17 00:21:23 ] Monarch > my word is stronger than any battleship and will last longer than this game. [ 2004.03.17 00:21:45 ] Monarch > i assure you that you will recieve proper payment for every single member of uni that come down here. [ 2004.03.17 00:22:25 ] Hatepants > hmm [ 2004.03.17 00:22:31 ] WhiteMist > :) i would hope so or i git to have more fun :) [ 2004.03.17 00:23:07 ] WhiteMist > :) [ 2004.03.17 00:23:34 ] Hatepants > i suppose i can live with that for now [ 2004.03.17 00:23:38 ] Monarch > threats aren't needed. [ 2004.03.17 00:23:44 ] Monarch > but you will recieve payment. [ 2004.03.17 00:24:08 ] Monarch > i will have the ceo of uni send a corp wide email and we'll get a mining op going soon. [ 2004.03.17 00:24:39 ] Monarch > just sent hate 1m. [ 2004.03.17 00:24:47 ] Monarch > i'll have my bud 'the end' do it also. [ 2004.03.17 00:25:05 ] Hatepants > when u have decided please let me know in which areas u are going to mine so we do not waste our time chasing dots on map :) [ 2004.03.17 00:25:54 ] Monarch > i'll go straight to the rnf with uni. [ 2004.03.17 00:26:06 ] Monarch > if you could direct me to a decent npc spot, i'll go there for now :) [ 2004.03.17 00:26:20 ] Hatepants > and i will take your word for now that payment will be secured for the others [ 2004.03.17 00:27:11 ] Monarch > when they come down, i will have 1m earmarked for them and it will be sent. [ 2004.03.17 00:27:13 ] Hatepants > your standings have been adjusted [ 2004.03.17 00:27:30 ] Monarch > thank you sirs it will be a pleasure to continue doing business with you. [ 2004.03.17 00:27:38 ] Hatepants > btw .. [ 2004.03.17 00:27:50 ] Hatepants > how were u referred to whitemist ? [ 2004.03.17 00:27:57 ] Monarch > saw him in local :p [ 2004.03.17 00:28:05 ] Hatepants > ok [ 2004.03.17 00:28:13 ] Monarch > i was shooting the *** with a corp mate of yours earlier. [ 2004.03.17 00:28:22 ] Monarch > and just wanted to see if it was a possiblity. [ 2004.03.17 00:29:11 ] Hatepants > this is a bit below our normal rates as well so i would appreciate it if u keep it amongst yourselves [ 2004.03.17 00:29:34 ] Monarch > sounds great and will do. i'll tell the CEO specifically and i'm sure he'll take care of everything. [ 2004.03.17 00:30:27 ] Monarch > all monies will be sent to you hate so there is no run around on who got the isk and who didn't [ 2004.03.17 00:30:28 ] Hatepants > sounds good [ 2004.03.17 00:30:37 ] Hatepants > ok [ 2004.03.17 00:30:49 ] Monarch > i'll head to rnf right now. [ 2004.03.17 00:31:03 ] Hatepants > ok
Monarch	Posted - 2004.03.20 04:47:00 - [2] Just a warning to people that do business with Corp 1. the following chat log doesn't have whitemist in it, but he was present for the entire chat. ------------------------------------------------------------ Channelname: WhiteMist conversation Listener: Monarch Session started: 2004.03.16 23:59:14 ------------------------------------------------------------ [ 2004.03.16 23:59:20 ] Monarch > sup [ 2004.03.16 23:59:27 ] WhiteMist > how can i help u. [ 2004.03.16 23:59:30 ] Monarch > i talked to a corp mate of yours earlier seemed like a nice guy. who should i talk to about a NAP or are you guys not into those?? [ 2004.03.16 23:59:57 ] WhiteMist > 1 sec [ 2004.03.17 00:00:49 ] Hatepants > ello [ 2004.03.17 00:00:56 ] Monarch > lol, sup hate :p [ 2004.03.17 00:01:08 ] Monarch > i never clicked on your photo so i didnt' know you were in corp 1 [ 2004.03.17 00:01:20 ] Hatepants > just a mining alt [ 2004.03.17 00:01:41 ] Monarch > just seing if you guys even do NAP or not?? [ 2004.03.17 00:01:57 ] Monarch > i have buds in FE, cow etc that can vouch for me etc. [ 2004.03.17 00:01:58 ] Hatepants > certainly we do [ 2004.03.17 00:02:24 ] Monarch > i would like to hang out in this area a little bit, and i just want to make sure which side of line i need o be standing on. [ 2004.03.17 00:03:04 ] Hatepants > well .. are we talking about just u or are there others ? [ 2004.03.17 00:03:24 ] Monarch > well actually... i have some buds that are going to come down from time to time also... [ 2004.03.17 00:03:50 ] Monarch > part of UNI- universal exports [ 2004.03.17 00:03:53 ] Monarch > a mining corp. [ 2004.03.17 00:04:28 ] Hatepants > hmm [ 2004.03.17 00:04:33 ] Hatepants > and how long would u be staying ? [ 2004.03.17 00:04:36 ] Monarch > under normal circustances i only attack if provoked, words are capable of provoking for sure... [ 2004.03.17 00:04:55 ] Monarch > but since you guys are CA i really don't wanna hurt any dealing i have going on with them already. [ 2004.03.17 00:05:17 ] Hatepants > who says we are ca ? [ 2004.03.17 00:05:20 ] Monarch > not sure. there is a corp that i'm after but they're in slays and i don't wanna go back and forth too much, but i'm out here to make isk mainly. [ 2004.03.17 00:05:38 ] Monarch > it's possible that i misunderstood the earlier conversation. [ 2004.03.17 00:06:18 ] Hatepants > i would not mislead u into thinking we are ca [ 2004.03.17 00:06:27 ] Hatepants > is just the 50 of us .. no alliances atm [ 2004.03.17 00:06:38 ] Monarch > that's not a problem [ 2004.03.17 00:06:40 ] Hatepants > many naps but no alliances [ 2004.03.17 00:07:05 ] Monarch > so what is the usual order of business to do a NAP?? [ 2004.03.17 00:07:10 ] Monarch > with your corp anyways... [ 2004.03.17 00:07:20 ] Hatepants > a complete listing of our naps (as in the corps that are paying us) is available looking at our standings [ 2004.03.17 00:07:34 ] Monarch > so i'd have to pay to be down here?? [ 2004.03.17 00:07:40 ] Monarch > i can't do that. [ 2004.03.17 00:07:50 ] Hatepants > well .. depending on the numbers of players we are talking about and length of stay we would ask a small mineral or isk fee yes [ 2004.03.17 00:07:57 ] Hatepants > no other naps are profitable for us [ 2004.03.17 00:08:26 ] Monarch > small is a very relative word. [ 2004.03.17 00:08:30 ] Hatepants > unless u can think of something unique u would be able to provide for us ? [ 2004.03.17 00:08:47 ] Monarch > i'm not about to start fighting anti pirate corps for you guys :p [ 2004.03.17 00:09:10 ] Hatepants > we would not ask that nor are we in need of it [ 2004.03.17 00:09:13 ] Monarch > what other pirate corps come around here?? [ 2004.03.17 00:09:23 ] Monarch > well, a few of your guys were running earlier... [ 2004.03.17 00:09:24 ] Hatepants > none [ 2004.03.17 00:09:33 ] Monarch > from pmas [ 2004.03.17 00:09:39 ] Hatepants > all of us run from time to time [ 2004.03.17 00:10:02 ] Monarch > very true. [ 2004.03.17 00:10:07 ] Hatepants > is part of the way of life [ 2004.03.17 00:10:26 ] Monarch > so what is the normal requiremnt?? [ 2004.03.17 00:10:29 ] Monarch > for isk. [ 2004.03.17 00:10:36 ] Monarch > i am BROKE atm which is why i came down here. [ 2004.03.17 00:10:58 ] Monarch > and i'd rather be working something out instead of having to fight/run from you guys [ 2004.03.17 00:11:08 ] Hatepants > the fees we charge are always small enough as to allow the player/corp to still remain here profitably .. [ 2004.03.17 00:12:23 ] Monarch > is there any bistot to be mined where you guys control the area?? [ 2004.03.17 00:12:35 ] Monarch > or ark corkite etc, rare mins to be had... [ 2004.03.17 00:12:40 ] Hatepants > providance [ 2004.03.17 00:13:03 ] Monarch > i was down there earlier yesterday and i didn't see anything worth having... [ 2004.03.17 00:13:21 ] Hatepants > rnf
Monarch	Posted - 2004.03.20 04:50:00 - [3] [ 2004.03.17 00:31:08 ] Monarch > take it easy fellas, if you have ANY questions or concerns, please don't hesitate to contact me [ 2004.03.17 00:31:15 ] Hatepants > will do [ 2004.03.17 00:31:22 ] Monarch > see you around :) [ 2004.03.17 00:31:34 ] Hatepants > have a good one an email i received from whitemist the following day... 2004.03.18 03:20:00 ok monarch heres the deal we had uni guys here they didnt reposed when we asked to pay so we took out a tempest accully we made him eject there fore were goan refund u your mil and well revoke your stay here.srry but this is what happend srry for the trouble....if we wana renap wed like to have them pay up front..so that there is no confusion next time so we can git this cleared plz contach hatepants. for more info,. ------------------------------------------------------------ Channelname: WhiteMist conversation Listener: Monarch Session started: 2004.03.18 19:46:50 ------------------------------------------------------------ [ 2004.03.18 19:47:11 ] WhiteMist > yes. [ 2004.03.18 19:47:19 ] Monarch > i am unable to understand why you took a uni bs?? [ 2004.03.18 19:47:32 ] Monarch > i told you guys that i would make sure that all of them were paid for. [ 2004.03.18 19:48:13 ] WhiteMist > ok well there was atotal of 6 uni guys that came inot assah and none of them payed and had no knolage of payment. [ 2004.03.18 19:48:54 ] Monarch > when all of us were talking, i assured you guys payment for everyone that would come in. and you agreed to those terms, did you not?? [ 2004.03.18 19:49:16 ] Monarch > you guys said that you were not used to doing business that way, but i wasn't sure how many would come down. [ 2004.03.18 19:49:21 ] WhiteMist > u were refunding your money...plz talk this up with mr mean.
Monarch	Posted - 2004.03.20 04:51:00 - [4] [ 2004.03.20 04:18:39 ] WhiteMist > and no payment. [ 2004.03.20 04:18:47 ] Monarch > every single person that was going to go down there was going to be paid for. [ 2004.03.20 04:18:48 ] MrMean > no offence mate but this is not a game of honest players [ 2004.03.20 04:18:52 ] Monarch > that was my assurance to you. [ 2004.03.20 04:18:57 ] Monarch > i am honest. [ 2004.03.20 04:19:08 ] Monarch > and if you didn't think so, you shouldn't have said it was ok. [ 2004.03.20 04:19:19 ] MrMean > im sure u are but is not an assumption we can make [ 2004.03.20 04:19:21 ] Monarch > if a pirate doesn't keep their word, why would anyone else listen to them?? [ 2004.03.20 04:19:22 ] WhiteMist > sir when u go to a store u pay for your item before u go home and play with it...... [ 2004.03.20 04:19:33 ] Monarch > you DID make the assumption otherwise why agree to the deal?? [ 2004.03.20 04:19:37 ] MrMean > we never set standings towards uni .. only towards u since u paid and they did not [ 2004.03.20 04:20:34 ] MrMean > we never have and never will set standings until payment has been recieved [ 2004.03.20 04:20:34 ] Monarch > i agreed to pay for all of the uni guys that ventured down there and your corp agreed to those terms. [ 2004.03.20 04:21:05 ] WhiteMist > and did u pay before thy entered? [ 2004.03.20 04:21:19 ] Monarch > i wasn't on during the dispute, however as soon as peopel made ther way down, they would have been paid for, according to the contract i made. [ 2004.03.20 04:21:20 ] MrMean > yes but my understanding was u would pay before they came [ 2004.03.20 04:21:27 ] WhiteMist > no they were mineing all day long man...w didnt agree for them to be there without payment. [ 2004.03.20 04:21:31 ] Monarch > no sir, afterwards, and it is clearly stated. [ 2004.03.20 04:21:44 ] Monarch > i am willing to send you the chat logs if you would like to review them. [ 2004.03.20 04:22:31 ] MrMean > if you were lead to believe afterwards then is a misunderstanding because we only accept payment in advance .. [ 2004.03.20 04:22:34 ] Monarch > you were to recieve payment, but only after i knew exactly who was going down etc. [ 2004.03.20 04:22:43 ] Monarch > your corp agreed to it nonetheless. [ 2004.03.20 04:23:16 ] MrMean > i think that is a matter of debate and confusion .. [ 2004.03.20 04:23:21 ] WhiteMist > and about 6-8 guys from uni were here for a good 5-6 hours.....stuill no payment. [ 2004.03.20 04:23:43 ] Monarch > it is clearly stated in the contract that i would pay after they came down. [ 2004.03.20 04:23:49 ] Monarch > as i wasn't sure how many would come down. [ 2004.03.20 04:24:05 ] MrMean > yes and was no way for us to know they were just going to chill for a few days then leave without making payment [ 2004.03.20 04:24:16 ] Monarch > i think there should have been some warning perhaps to them that they should leave and not come back until payment was made then. [ 2004.03.20 04:24:18 ] MrMean > corps tend not to pay after they have got what they want [ 2004.03.20 04:24:33 ] Monarch > then why did your corp agree to those terms sir?? [ 2004.03.20 04:24:37 ] MrMean > they did not respond to any questions asked in local [ 2004.03.20 04:24:52 ] Monarch > that's what we agreed upon. and i intend to take care of all of my responsibilities. [ 2004.03.20 04:24:56 ] MrMean > we did not .. is a matter of confusion if u think we did [ 2004.03.20 04:25:03 ] Monarch > perhaps open a chat chan with one of them?? [ 2004.03.20 04:25:13 ] WhiteMist > dude i asked did they pay and they had no knowage of any payment....... [ 2004.03.20 04:25:15 ] Monarch > also, could you verify who all was down there from uni?? [ 2004.03.20 04:25:16 ] MrMean > like i said mate .. i was not there .. [ 2004.03.20 04:25:25 ] MrMean > i do not know exactly how it went down [ 2004.03.20 04:25:32 ] Monarch > there is debate that there was only 2 of them and one was in a noob ship, the other in a tempest, doing npcs. [ 2004.03.20 04:25:34 ] MrMean > mist probably can [ 2004.03.20 04:25:41 ] Monarch > mist was the one that took the tempest. [ 2004.03.20 04:25:46 ] Monarch > and i would like it back. [ 2004.03.20 04:26:36 ] MrMean > mist is not the one in possesion of teh temp atm .. has been given to a newer member [ 2004.03.20 04:27:03 ] Monarch > never the less. i would like it back because you are in current default of the contract by seizing the ship in the first place [ 2004.03.20 04:27:30 ] Monarch > and upon return of the ship, i will pay for every member of uni going down there. [ 2004.03.20 04:27:36 ] Monarch > as agreed upon. [ 2004.03.20 04:28:17 ] MrMean > well .. i dont think this is going to go anywhere mate .. we do not make reparaitions nor does anyone on our end feel there was any nap with the uni corp to have been violated [ 2004.03.20 04:28:57 ] Monarch > i shall post this on the forums and let others judge you accordingly then. good day to you sirs.
Monarch	Posted - 2004.03.20 04:51:00 - [5] ------------------------------------------------------------ Channelname: MrMean conversation Listener: Monarch Session started: 2004.03.20 04:07:54 ------------------------------------------------------------ [ 2004.03.20 04:08:10 ] MrMean > sup [ 2004.03.20 04:08:17 ] Monarch > are you aware of the situation at hand?? [ 2004.03.20 04:08:46 ] MrMean > i am aware that a member from uni ejected from tempest if that is what u speak of [ 2004.03.20 04:09:14 ] Monarch > but the situation arises when there was an agreement already made that you guys would get paid for all of uni to go down there. [ 2004.03.20 04:09:38 ] Monarch > and then your corp goes back on their word. [ 2004.03.20 04:09:44 ] MrMean > yes but as i understand they came down to assah .. were asked for payment .. and would not respond .. [ 2004.03.20 04:10:05 ] Monarch > there was no mention of that, and I was the one responsible for payment... [ 2004.03.20 04:10:15 ] MrMean > you are the only one we ever recieved payment from and yours was refunded [ 2004.03.20 04:10:29 ] Monarch > i assured your corp that they would recieve payment for all uni to go down there. your corp agreed, i can send you the chat logs if you wish. [ 2004.03.20 04:10:51 ] Monarch > so what your'e saying is.. you saw an opportunity to steal a tempest and decide to do so and send me the 1m back?? [ 2004.03.20 04:11:19 ] Monarch > there was an agreement that all of uni would be paid for. [ 2004.03.20 04:11:27 ] MrMean > no am saying the uni guys would not acknowledge attempts to communicate and since no payment was recieved from them they were attacked [ 2004.03.20 04:11:47 ] MrMean > they had been in assah all day [ 2004.03.20 04:11:53 ] Monarch > the payment was to be recieved from me according to the logs with 3 of the ceos. [ 2004.03.20 04:12:06 ] Monarch > please send me a chat log asking for isk and them denying it. [ 2004.03.20 04:12:55 ] MrMean > would have to ask whitemist for that .. am only relaying what i have been told .. [ 2004.03.20 04:12:58 ] MrMean > they guy i spoke with who lost his tempest said that he was unaware he had to pay anything .. [ 2004.03.20 04:13:13 ] Monarch > i was taking care of payments. [ 2004.03.20 04:13:21 ] Monarch > and the ceo of uni. [ 2004.03.20 04:13:52 ] Monarch > it was told to me that the ammount i was paying was very low and i informed the ceo that the information of the price shouldn't be conveyed to the rest of the corp [ 2004.03.20 04:14:10 ] MrMean > i think the real issue is that people did not want to seem them sit there and mine all day in a system we try to keep clean for corp usage when necessary without even securing payment [ 2004.03.20 04:14:25 ] Monarch > there was no mining, only npc ratting. [ 2004.03.20 04:14:40 ] MrMean > i would not know .. had nothing to do with it [ 2004.03.20 04:14:42 ] Monarch > that information should have also been conveyed. [ 2004.03.20 04:15:00 ] Monarch > if you didn't want anyone to hang out in assah, i think that is something that we should be told. [ 2004.03.20 04:15:16 ] Monarch > i talked to several of your corpmates in assah on local and no mention of it was made. [ 2004.03.20 04:15:36 ] MrMean > i can not say how but they guys have said they made attempts to talk with them and got no response [ 2004.03.20 04:15:59 ] Monarch > what i would like from you is a review of the chat logs and notice that i nor any uni was in breech of our contract. [ 2004.03.20 04:16:05 ] Monarch > and i would like the tempest back. [ 2004.03.20 04:16:19 ] Monarch > i would hate for this to stop us from doing further business transactions. [ 2004.03.20 04:16:36 ] MrMean > that is not my decision to make .. as i told the guy who lost it i cannot make them do anything [ 2004.03.20 04:16:57 ] Monarch > white was the one that told me to talk to you about the situation. [ 2004.03.20 04:17:18 ] MrMean > as i am a ceo .. but dont mean i play for the others .. [ 2004.03.20 04:17:23 ] MrMean > they are they're own masters [ 2004.03.20 04:17:33 ] WhiteMist > ...... [ 2004.03.20 04:17:37 ] Monarch > white, we're confering about the tempest situation. [ 2004.03.20 04:17:47 ] WhiteMist > yes... [ 2004.03.20 04:17:51 ] Monarch > what i don't understand is how you would take the temepst, knowing what the agreement was. [ 2004.03.20 04:18:15 ] Monarch > you were there for most of the arangements. [ 2004.03.20 04:18:16 ] WhiteMist > are agreement was that they would apy. [ 2004.03.20 04:18:21 ] MrMean > because there was no gaurentee they weren't just going to hang out and leave without payment [ 2004.03.20 04:18:21 ] Monarch > i would pay. [ 2004.03.20 04:18:30 ] Monarch > there was a garuntee. [ 2004.03.20 04:18:31 ] WhiteMist > u had about 10uni members there in assah. [ 2004.03.20 04:18:33 ] Monarch > i garunteed it. [ 2004.03.20 04:18:39 ] WhiteMist > and no payment.
Monarch	Posted - 2004.03.20 04:52:00 - [6] [ 2004.03.20 04:29:10 ] WhiteMist > wait.. [ 2004.03.20 04:29:14 ] Monarch > the chat logs will be posted also that i have been making reference [ 2004.03.20 04:29:21 ] MrMean > well .. that is your business .. [ 2004.03.20 04:29:45 ] MrMean > nothing we can do about that nor does it matter as we are not an important corp [ 2004.03.20 04:30:09 ] Monarch > i'm not being irate, dirty mouthed, or cynical. i can understand that this is a misunderstanding, i would like the ship back and i will pay for all of the uni members that have gone down there. [ 2004.03.20 04:30:29 ] Monarch > as per our agreement. [ 2004.03.20 04:30:47 ] MrMean > and as i said .. we now have a new member in a tempest who i highly doubt is going to give it up for a couple mil .. [ 2004.03.20 04:31:02 ] MrMean > is not in my power to do anything but kick him from the corp [ 2004.03.20 04:31:05 ] Monarch > it wasn't his to begin with, it was taken under false pretenses. [ 2004.03.20 04:31:38 ] Monarch > then it shall be duly noted that you are little more than a figure head and aren't in fact in any power in your corp obvisouly [ 2004.03.20 04:31:55 ] MrMean > lol .. no one is mate .. i cannot beat them up [ 2004.03.20 04:32:16 ] MrMean > nor can i or any other player in eve takes things out of others hangers .. nor is this MY corp [ 2004.03.20 04:32:32 ] Monarch > i'm not saying you can. i am saying that you are the ceo and should have some power, especially to give a ship back that was taken when it in fact should not have. [ 2004.03.20 04:32:43 ] WhiteMist > as i said this is what happend...i was in and out of assah all day 5-6 hour with abut 5-6 memebrs i asked in local did they pay to be here they didnt answer to my questions after about 5- hours of seeing them in there i was feed up with it...they also had no knowlge of any payment they had to make therefore i inforcedm them out of the system till payment he ejected out of his ship he could of collected a 40% insurnce loss on the ship but ran away..it was his choce to git out......if u feel u have to post it on the forums then go ahead they were there all day with no payment that gave them enoguh time...to gt what they wanted and to git out.so i tookm mesures to supply are corp with the funds.... [ 2004.03.20 04:33:40 ] Monarch > then that is how it shall be. good day to you sirs and i expect responses on the forums. i'll start posting it immediately. [ 2004.03.20 04:34:14 ] MrMean > that is your perogative .. [ 2004.03.20 04:34:22 ] MrMean > and good day do u as well [ 2004.03.20 04:34:26 ] WhiteMist > bye...
Jaseara	Posted - 2004.03.20 05:27:00 - [7] Not another long boring post from you. Thanks for the warning about Corp1. But a few lines would've sufficed.
General Meridus	Posted - 2004.03.20 06:15:00 - [8] WhiteMist > LEARN TO COUNT! I am glad you graduated 2nd grade and all, but apparently you didn't do well in MATH ... because if you did,you would have known that 1 + 1 = 2 = the EXACT amount of UNI in ASSAH all day, not the 6 - 10 you claim. And since I just educated you on childhood math ... you should be thankful. Also, since there were LOTS of RAT cans around. How does that show we were mining? Yes, it could be misleading with your lack of intelligence. However, since I was there ALL day RATTING, and noone botherd to talk to ME or the ONLY other UNI there ... you made absolutely NO attempt to collect the 1m isk or make sure we knew we had to pay. You were Out For Blood, thats it.
Darodem	Posted - 2004.03.20 07:19:00 - [9] Corp 1 has been classified as CWAN crap without a nap. They will harbor corporate theives, break NAPs, ask for treaties they do not intend to honor, lie to entrap you, run and hide when the going gets tough. They mark it all up to role play because they are pirates. These mad dogs are foaming at the mouth and need to be put down.
Tobruk	Posted - 2004.03.20 07:25:00 - [10] dont worry i stole whitemists first BS and he cried like a noob ----------------------------------------------
Dekar	Posted - 2004.03.20 08:29:00 - [11] Edited by: Dekar on 20/03/2004 08:33:25 This contract of yours is crp. Neither side has the slightest clue about contracts. Next time, arrange a timelimit for paying instead of "you get my word that you'll be paid". Cuz that stands for nothing. You wouldn't break your word even IF you didn't pay them for a year, as no time was stated. Contracts based on crp are bound to be mishandled. And people stupid enough to form them are bound to get the short end of the stick one way or the other. ------------------------------------------------- Lying Scumbag
WhiteMist	Posted - 2004.03.20 09:47:00 - [12] ok fisrt of all........i saw more than **in 2 guys in assah second of all i talked 2 u guys after about 4hours of u being there neather of u guys talked to me..after about the 4times goign abck n forth i talked to mr mean...about if u guys made payment...the answer was no..and as for the newb who ejected out of his tempest...git a backbone....u could of died and got a 40% insurnce at least....but now u ahve nothing and as tobruk said he took my fisrt bs with this character even before it was assembled so im not goan cry for u ok..to be honest we have naps with corps that do work cause they pay upfrount and dont ***foot around..we well take future acts such as this into account but oh well....whats done is done..:) so what ever...im here come git me if u wish...u know were to find me..
Haratu	Posted - 2004.03.20 10:11:00 - [13] You trust 'MrMean'? He is a pirate. Never trust pirates, especially Corp1 guys. Of course I am biased, especially in the case of MrMean, he podded my little brother. I roleplay... there is this computer game called "Earth - The First Genesis" where i play a character in the early 21st century.
C4w3	Posted - 2004.03.20 10:22:00 - [14] Oh my god... im not usually post on the forums, or reply to carebears. But hear it goes. First Corp 1 Do not do NAP¦s (If not profitable ROFL) if any we have agreements with 2-4 corp¦s no names but they are werry pleased im sure. Second. STK--> ROFL Do you really think you are in position to say anything? "If all the heroes are standing together around a strange device and begin to taunt me, I will pull out a conventional one.
swisher	Posted - 2004.03.20 10:36:00 - [15] Edited by: swisher on 20/03/2004 10:44:48 ...MrMean and WhiteMist clearly..stated the rules of are NAPs with people/corps..the person didnt pay up..and didnt take the role of a good CEO to inform the rest of this corp about all the details..due to his lack of leadership ..this turned out bad for him. I do think its funny as all of you people think we arent good w/trustworthy with naps...well if you notice none of the other corps that we have them with have ever whined about it...because they dont beat around the bush when it comes to striking a deal and paying up. Hopefully Monarch has learned a lesson here..on communication..and "putting the money where the mouth is"... -swish
Monarch	Posted - 2004.03.20 10:42:00 - [16] There have been posts about whether or not a pirate should be honorable after their word has been given, one incident that comes to mind when pu55ycat held someone up for 18m and destroyed him anyways, and then gave the isk back after the confusion was cleared up. if a pirate says he's going to do something, and then doesn't, then why would ANYONE else ever listen to him again?? a short example: a noob in a bs goes flying through a sector, you stop him and charge a toll, and threaten to kill him if he doesn't pay. if you can't be trusted, why wouldn't they just say 'screw off' and try to run, we all know you can easily make more from tolls than the destruction of a ship. if corp 1 doesnt' do nap, they should have said so, as the chat log goes into gross overdetail about it, and even stipulates that it's 1m per week per person. they didn't follow the guidelines that were agreed to so they breached the contract, that's it, pure and simple the tempest that they aquired was stolen from a 'friendly' person. and when did they expect to get paid for people that were going down there anyways while i was offline?? i think GM is correct in assuming that they were out for blood and just bored. whitemist, i'll definately duel you 1 vs 1 in sector of my choosing. unlike you, i won't lie, or try to cheat with more than myself. why don't we even make a wager on the outcome of the fight, say... 1 tempest to the winner. you let me know when, and i'll let you know where.
swisher	Posted - 2004.03.20 10:53:00 - [17] Quote: whitemist, i'll definately duel you 1 vs 1 in sector of my choosing. unlike you, i won't lie, or try to cheat with more than myself. why don't we even make a wager on the outcome of the fight, say... 1 tempest to the winner. you let me know when, and i'll let you know where. rofl...
Gats	Posted - 2004.03.20 10:57:00 - [18] omg .... first lose a bs in a very disrespectfull manner and then some one goes begging after it :s shameless ppl ...
WhiteMist	Posted - 2004.03.20 11:11:00 - [19] whitemist, i'll definately duel you 1 vs 1 in sector of my choosing. unlike you, i won't lie, or try to cheat with more than myself. why don't we even make a wager on the outcome of the fight, say... 1 tempest to the winner. you let me know when, and i'll let you know where. lmao u kiddign right? i made your friend eject u think he had a choice lmao...youll die jsut the same lmao..********s like this deserve to die..carebear/pirate alike....
Zanistar	Posted - 2004.03.20 11:51:00 - [20] Well since there is dueling going on ...... Zanistar http://upl.mine.nu/uplfolders/upload9/Zanistar.jpg
Linh Ywang	Posted - 2004.03.20 15:58:00 - [21] Pay, be nice. Then we have a NAP. If you don't pay and if you fool around with us, WhiteMist will be sent to make your noobs eject from you Tempests for free. _________________________ HC MasiEEE for PRESIDENT Official Election Manager Extraordinair
Monica Scuro	Posted - 2004.03.20 18:07:00 - [22] Todays lesson again, dont pay asshat pirates. They lie...
General Meridus	Posted - 2004.03.20 18:18:00 - [23] Edited by: General Meridus on 20/03/2004 18:44:45 WhiteMist > Get youy lying head out of your a$$. IF you really think there was 6 UNI ... show proof. See the problem there? You cant because there is none. Also, you are just TRYING to make it sound like there were more UNI so people would sympathize with you. What a shame you can't tell the truth, but I guess that would make you an Honourable Pirate. As I said before ... 1 + 1 = 2 ... definately NOT the 6 you are claiming. Take your pea sized brain back to school and learn some math. Oh, btw. 5 v 1 with people shooting Torps ... can we say podded after the ship blew?
Toulak	Posted - 2004.03.20 18:46:00 - [24] Quote: Oh my god... im not usually post on the forums, or reply to carebears. Do you feel superior when you go around calling others carebears?
Monarch	Posted - 2004.03.20 21:29:00 - [25] Quote: lmao u kiddign right? i made your friend eject u think he had a choice lmao...youll die jsut the same lmao..********s like this deserve to die..carebear/pirate alike.... do so, tell me when you want to duel and i'll give you the sector.
drunkenmaster	Posted - 2004.03.20 22:14:00 - [26] tl;dr .
Nafri	Posted - 2004.03.20 22:28:00 - [27] bah, only for this long post i would pod ya Wanna fly with me?
Monarch	Posted - 2004.03.21 02:17:00 - [28] Edited by: Monarch on 22/03/2004 11:09:24 off subject - fixed.
Squirrel	Posted - 2004.03.21 04:55:00 - [29] Im saying this as an observer....I was not there to witness the events etc... However..Based from Monarch's history being a man of his word...always paying back loans etc...and of Corp 1 twisting this and stabbing them in the back just isnt right... honestly, people from corp 1.. that is one of if not the most pathetic and cowardly thing i have seen so far playing eve...and i've been here since ther start...do you people have no deceny, morality or sense of right and wrong? anyways...enough of the kind, sensible not profaine language...you people dont deserve it..u guys r total ass holes and are going to get podded repeatedly by people who actually know ur gonna shoot at them,stab them in the back etc....watch out noobs.... people with actual skills are gonna be looking for u now..and were hoping you have implants...just so you'll scream louder in local as we kill each of you slowly and watching you cry NO I"LL PAY! _______________________________________________ Carfax > guys, please dont pvp here, it messes up the avoid pd kill zones autopilot option
swe fd	Posted - 2004.03.21 11:25:00 - [30] Quote: Im saying this as an observer....I was not there to witness the events etc... However..Based from Monarch's history being a man of his word...always paying back loans etc...and of Corp 1 twisting this and stabbing them in the back just isnt right... honestly, people from corp 1.. that is one of if not the most pathetic and cowardly thing i have seen so far playing eve...and i've been here since ther start...do you people have no deceny, morality or sense of right and wrong? anyways...enough of the kind, sensible not profaine language...you people dont deserve it..u guys r total ass holes and are going to get podded repeatedly by people who actually know ur gonna shoot at them,stab them in the back etc....watch out noobs.... people with actual skills are gonna be looking for u now..and were hoping you have implants...just so you'll scream louder in local as we kill each of you slowly and watching you cry NO I"LL PAY! yawn ....

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