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        |  Monarch
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.20 04:47:00 -
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 [ 2004.03.17 00:13:44 ] Hatepants > is actually catch ..
 [ 2004.03.17 00:13:57 ] Hatepants > on the outskirts of the areas we hunt in
 [ 2004.03.17 00:14:36 ] Monarch > what would the price be for myself, 1 corp, and 1 other bud.
 [ 2004.03.17 00:14:54 ] Hatepants > what is the size of the corp ?
 [ 2004.03.17 00:15:35 ] Monarch > nto all of them would come down of course... one sec. lemme see size of corp.
 [ 2004.03.17 00:15:38 ] Monarch > smaller..
 [ 2004.03.17 00:15:54 ] Monarch > 28 members.
 [ 2004.03.17 00:16:04 ] Monarch > i only imagine that MAYBE 5 would come down.
 [ 2004.03.17 00:16:44 ] Hatepants > if those numbers remain accurate .. i would say bout 8 per week ..
 [ 2004.03.17 00:17:03 ] Monarch > roughly 1m per person per week correct??
 [ 2004.03.17 00:17:12 ] Hatepants > approx .. yes
 [ 2004.03.17 00:17:19 ] Monarch > that sounds fair to me.
 [ 2004.03.17 00:17:31 ] Monarch > who does the isk go to??
 [ 2004.03.17 00:17:39 ] Monarch > and are there any good spawns for npcs down here??
 [ 2004.03.17 00:17:52 ] Hatepants > me .. cave .. swish .. or macarvid
 [ 2004.03.17 00:18:01 ] Monarch > all same guy?? o.O
 [ 2004.03.17 00:18:09 ] Hatepants > no the ceos
 [ 2004.03.17 00:18:13 ] Monarch > ok
 [ 2004.03.17 00:18:28 ] Hatepants > once isk is recieved your standings will be changed to +10 and corp mail will go out
 [ 2004.03.17 00:18:29 ] Monarch > i'll send my 1m to hate and i'll forward the isk to you also.
 [ 2004.03.17 00:18:49 ] Hatepants > one sec ..
 [ 2004.03.17 00:18:53 ] Monarch > i'll talk to the rest of the guys and see if they'd like to venture out here, i know for a fact 3 others will.
 [ 2004.03.17 00:19:02 ] Monarch > but i only have 1m atm :p
 [ 2004.03.17 00:19:29 ] Hatepants > i would prefer that u wait till u know for sure how many will be coming ..
 [ 2004.03.17 00:19:32 ] Hatepants > avoids confusing
 [ 2004.03.17 00:19:36 ] Hatepants > *confusion
 [ 2004.03.17 00:20:24 ] Monarch > is it possible to just put all of UNI on the list and then i can give you my word that you will recieve isk for every person that comes down here??
 [ 2004.03.17 00:20:40 ] Monarch > i'll pay 1m and my buddy 'the end' will pay 1m also right now.
 [ 2004.03.17 00:21:00 ] Hatepants > we are not in the habit of setting standings until payment has been secured ..
 [ 2004.03.17 00:21:23 ] Monarch > my word is stronger than any battleship and will last longer than this game.
 [ 2004.03.17 00:21:45 ] Monarch > i assure you that you will recieve proper payment for every single member of uni that come down here.
 [ 2004.03.17 00:22:25 ] Hatepants > hmm
 [ 2004.03.17 00:22:31 ] WhiteMist > :) i would hope so or i git to have more fun :)
 [ 2004.03.17 00:23:07 ] WhiteMist > :)
 [ 2004.03.17 00:23:34 ] Hatepants > i suppose i can live with that for now
 [ 2004.03.17 00:23:38 ] Monarch > threats aren't needed.
 [ 2004.03.17 00:23:44 ] Monarch > but you will recieve payment.
 [ 2004.03.17 00:24:08 ] Monarch > i will have the ceo of uni send a corp wide email and we'll get a mining op going soon.
 [ 2004.03.17 00:24:39 ] Monarch > just sent hate 1m.
 [ 2004.03.17 00:24:47 ] Monarch > i'll have my bud 'the end' do it also.
 [ 2004.03.17 00:25:05 ] Hatepants > when u have decided please let me know in which areas u are going to mine so we do not waste our time chasing dots on map :)
 [ 2004.03.17 00:25:54 ] Monarch > i'll go straight to the rnf with uni.
 [ 2004.03.17 00:26:06 ] Monarch > if you could direct me to a decent npc spot, i'll go there for now :)
 [ 2004.03.17 00:26:20 ] Hatepants > and i will take your word for now that payment will be secured for the others
 [ 2004.03.17 00:27:11 ] Monarch > when they come down, i will have 1m earmarked for them and it will be sent.
 [ 2004.03.17 00:27:13 ] Hatepants > your standings have been adjusted
 [ 2004.03.17 00:27:30 ] Monarch > thank you sirs it will be a pleasure to continue doing business with you.
 [ 2004.03.17 00:27:38 ] Hatepants > btw ..
 [ 2004.03.17 00:27:50 ] Hatepants > how were u referred to whitemist ?
 [ 2004.03.17 00:27:57 ] Monarch > saw him in local :p
 [ 2004.03.17 00:28:05 ] Hatepants > ok
 [ 2004.03.17 00:28:13 ] Monarch > i was shooting the **** with a corp mate of yours earlier.
 [ 2004.03.17 00:28:22 ] Monarch > and just wanted to see if it was a possiblity.
 [ 2004.03.17 00:29:11 ] Hatepants > this is a bit below our normal rates as well so i would appreciate it if u keep it amongst yourselves
 [ 2004.03.17 00:29:34 ] Monarch > sounds great and will do. i'll tell the CEO specifically and i'm sure he'll take care of everything.
 [ 2004.03.17 00:30:27 ] Monarch > all monies will be sent to you hate so there is no run around on who got the isk and who didn't
 [ 2004.03.17 00:30:28 ] Hatepants > sounds good
 [ 2004.03.17 00:30:37 ] Hatepants > ok
 [ 2004.03.17 00:30:49 ] Monarch > i'll head to rnf right now.
 [ 2004.03.17 00:31:03 ] Hatepants > ok
 
 
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        |  Monarch
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.20 04:47:00 -
          [2] 
 Just a warning to people that do business with Corp 1.
 
 the following chat log doesn't have whitemist in it, but he was present for the entire chat.
 
 
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 Channelname: WhiteMist conversation
 Listener: Monarch
 Session started: 2004.03.16 23:59:14
 
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 [ 2004.03.16 23:59:20 ] Monarch > sup
 [ 2004.03.16 23:59:27 ] WhiteMist > how can i help u.
 [ 2004.03.16 23:59:30 ] Monarch > i talked to a corp mate of yours earlier seemed like a nice guy. who should i talk to about a NAP or are you guys not into those??
 [ 2004.03.16 23:59:57 ] WhiteMist > 1 sec
 [ 2004.03.17 00:00:49 ] Hatepants > ello
 [ 2004.03.17 00:00:56 ] Monarch > lol, sup hate :p
 [ 2004.03.17 00:01:08 ] Monarch > i never clicked on your photo so i didnt' know you were in corp 1
 [ 2004.03.17 00:01:20 ] Hatepants > just a mining alt
 [ 2004.03.17 00:01:41 ] Monarch > just seing if you guys even do NAP or not??
 [ 2004.03.17 00:01:57 ] Monarch > i have buds in FE, cow etc that can vouch for me etc.
 [ 2004.03.17 00:01:58 ] Hatepants > certainly we do
 [ 2004.03.17 00:02:24 ] Monarch > i would like to hang out in this area a little bit, and i just want to make sure which side of line i need o be standing on.
 [ 2004.03.17 00:03:04 ] Hatepants > well .. are we talking about just u or are there others ?
 [ 2004.03.17 00:03:24 ] Monarch > well actually... i have some buds that are going to come down from time to time also...
 [ 2004.03.17 00:03:50 ] Monarch > part of UNI- universal exports
 [ 2004.03.17 00:03:53 ] Monarch > a mining corp.
 [ 2004.03.17 00:04:28 ] Hatepants > hmm
 [ 2004.03.17 00:04:33 ] Hatepants > and how long would u be staying ?
 [ 2004.03.17 00:04:36 ] Monarch > under normal circustances i only attack if provoked, words are capable of provoking for sure...
 [ 2004.03.17 00:04:55 ] Monarch > but since you guys are CA i really don't wanna hurt any dealing i have going on with them already.
 [ 2004.03.17 00:05:17 ] Hatepants > who says we are ca ?
 [ 2004.03.17 00:05:20 ] Monarch > not sure. there is a corp that i'm after but they're in slays and i don't wanna go back and forth too much, but i'm out here to make isk mainly.
 [ 2004.03.17 00:05:38 ] Monarch > it's possible that i misunderstood the earlier conversation.
 [ 2004.03.17 00:06:18 ] Hatepants > i would not mislead u into thinking we are ca
 [ 2004.03.17 00:06:27 ] Hatepants > is just the 50 of us .. no alliances atm
 [ 2004.03.17 00:06:38 ] Monarch > that's not a problem
 [ 2004.03.17 00:06:40 ] Hatepants > many naps but no alliances
 [ 2004.03.17 00:07:05 ] Monarch > so what is the usual order of business to do a NAP??
 [ 2004.03.17 00:07:10 ] Monarch > with your corp anyways...
 [ 2004.03.17 00:07:20 ] Hatepants > a complete listing of our naps (as in the corps that are paying us) is available looking at our standings
 [ 2004.03.17 00:07:34 ] Monarch > so i'd have to pay to be down here??
 [ 2004.03.17 00:07:40 ] Monarch > i can't do that.
 [ 2004.03.17 00:07:50 ] Hatepants > well .. depending on the numbers of players we are talking about and length of stay we would ask a small mineral or isk fee yes
 [ 2004.03.17 00:07:57 ] Hatepants > no other naps are profitable for us
 [ 2004.03.17 00:08:26 ] Monarch > small is a very relative word.
 [ 2004.03.17 00:08:30 ] Hatepants > unless u can think of something unique u would be able to provide for us ?
 [ 2004.03.17 00:08:47 ] Monarch > i'm not about to start fighting anti pirate corps for you guys :p
 [ 2004.03.17 00:09:10 ] Hatepants > we would not ask that nor are we in need of it
 [ 2004.03.17 00:09:13 ] Monarch > what other pirate corps come around here??
 [ 2004.03.17 00:09:23 ] Monarch > well, a few of your guys were running earlier...
 [ 2004.03.17 00:09:24 ] Hatepants > none
 [ 2004.03.17 00:09:33 ] Monarch > from pmas
 [ 2004.03.17 00:09:39 ] Hatepants > all of us run from time to time
 [ 2004.03.17 00:10:02 ] Monarch > very true.
 [ 2004.03.17 00:10:07 ] Hatepants > is part of the way of life
 [ 2004.03.17 00:10:26 ] Monarch > so what is the normal requiremnt??
 [ 2004.03.17 00:10:29 ] Monarch > for isk.
 [ 2004.03.17 00:10:36 ] Monarch > i am BROKE atm which is why i came down here.
 [ 2004.03.17 00:10:58 ] Monarch > and i'd rather be working something out instead of having to fight/run from you guys
 [ 2004.03.17 00:11:08 ] Hatepants > the fees we charge are always small enough as to allow the player/corp to still remain here profitably ..
 [ 2004.03.17 00:12:23 ] Monarch > is there any bistot to be mined where you guys control the area??
 [ 2004.03.17 00:12:35 ] Monarch > or ark corkite etc, rare mins to be had...
 [ 2004.03.17 00:12:40 ] Hatepants > providance
 [ 2004.03.17 00:13:03 ] Monarch > i was down there earlier yesterday and i didn't see anything worth having...
 [ 2004.03.17 00:13:21 ] Hatepants > rnf
 
 
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        |  Monarch
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.20 04:50:00 -
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 [ 2004.03.17 00:31:08 ] Monarch > take it easy fellas, if you have ANY questions or concerns, please don't hesitate to contact me
 [ 2004.03.17 00:31:15 ] Hatepants > will do
 [ 2004.03.17 00:31:22 ] Monarch > see you around :)
 [ 2004.03.17 00:31:34 ] Hatepants > have a good one
 
 an email i received from whitemist the following day...
 
 2004.03.18 03:20:00
 ok monarch heres the deal we had uni guys here they didnt reposed when we asked to pay so we took out a tempest accully we made him eject there fore were goan refund u your mil and well revoke your stay here.srry but this is what happend srry for the trouble....if we wana renap wed like to have them pay up front..so that there is no confusion next time so we can git this cleared plz contach hatepants. for more info,.
 
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 Channelname: WhiteMist conversation
 Listener: Monarch
 Session started: 2004.03.18 19:46:50
 
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 [ 2004.03.18 19:47:11 ] WhiteMist > yes.
 [ 2004.03.18 19:47:19 ] Monarch > i am unable to understand why you took a uni bs??
 [ 2004.03.18 19:47:32 ] Monarch > i told you guys that i would make sure that all of them were paid for.
 [ 2004.03.18 19:48:13 ] WhiteMist > ok well there was atotal of 6 uni guys that came inot assah and none of them payed and had no knolage of payment.
 [ 2004.03.18 19:48:54 ] Monarch > when all of us were talking, i assured you guys payment for everyone that would come in. and you agreed to those terms, did you not??
 [ 2004.03.18 19:49:16 ] Monarch > you guys said that you were not used to doing business that way, but i wasn't sure how many would come down.
 [ 2004.03.18 19:49:21 ] WhiteMist > u were refunding your money...plz talk this up with mr mean.
 
 
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        |  Monarch
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.20 04:51:00 -
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 [ 2004.03.20 04:18:39 ] WhiteMist > and no payment.
 [ 2004.03.20 04:18:47 ] Monarch > every single person that was going to go down there was going to be paid for.
 [ 2004.03.20 04:18:48 ] MrMean > no offence mate but this is not a game of honest players
 [ 2004.03.20 04:18:52 ] Monarch > that was my assurance to you.
 [ 2004.03.20 04:18:57 ] Monarch > i am honest.
 [ 2004.03.20 04:19:08 ] Monarch > and if you didn't think so, you shouldn't have said it was ok.
 [ 2004.03.20 04:19:19 ] MrMean > im sure u are but is not an assumption we can make
 [ 2004.03.20 04:19:21 ] Monarch > if a pirate doesn't keep their word, why would anyone else listen to them??
 [ 2004.03.20 04:19:22 ] WhiteMist > sir when u go to a store u pay for your item before u go home and play with it......
 [ 2004.03.20 04:19:33 ] Monarch > you DID make the assumption otherwise why agree to the deal??
 [ 2004.03.20 04:19:37 ] MrMean > we never set standings towards uni .. only towards u since u paid and they did not
 [ 2004.03.20 04:20:34 ] MrMean > we never have and never will set standings until payment has been recieved
 [ 2004.03.20 04:20:34 ] Monarch > i agreed to pay for all of the uni guys that ventured down there and your corp agreed to those terms.
 [ 2004.03.20 04:21:05 ] WhiteMist > and did u pay before thy entered?
 [ 2004.03.20 04:21:19 ] Monarch > i wasn't on during the dispute, however as soon as peopel made ther way down, they would have been paid for, according to the contract i made.
 [ 2004.03.20 04:21:20 ] MrMean > yes but my understanding was u would pay before they came
 [ 2004.03.20 04:21:27 ] WhiteMist > no they were mineing all day long man...w didnt agree for them to be there without payment.
 [ 2004.03.20 04:21:31 ] Monarch > no sir, afterwards, and it is clearly stated.
 [ 2004.03.20 04:21:44 ] Monarch > i am willing to send you the chat logs if you would like to review them.
 [ 2004.03.20 04:22:31 ] MrMean > if you were lead to believe afterwards then is a misunderstanding because we only accept payment in advance ..
 [ 2004.03.20 04:22:34 ] Monarch > you were to recieve payment, but only after i knew exactly who was going down etc.
 [ 2004.03.20 04:22:43 ] Monarch > your corp agreed to it nonetheless.
 [ 2004.03.20 04:23:16 ] MrMean > i think that is a matter of debate and confusion ..
 [ 2004.03.20 04:23:21 ] WhiteMist > and about 6-8 guys from uni were here for a good 5-6 hours.....stuill no payment.
 [ 2004.03.20 04:23:43 ] Monarch > it is clearly stated in the contract that i would pay after they came down.
 [ 2004.03.20 04:23:49 ] Monarch > as i wasn't sure how many would come down.
 [ 2004.03.20 04:24:05 ] MrMean > yes and was no way for us to know they were just going to chill for a few days then leave without making payment
 [ 2004.03.20 04:24:16 ] Monarch > i think there should have been some warning perhaps to them that they should leave and not come back until payment was made then.
 [ 2004.03.20 04:24:18 ] MrMean > corps tend not to pay after they have got what they want
 [ 2004.03.20 04:24:33 ] Monarch > then why did your corp agree to those terms sir??
 [ 2004.03.20 04:24:37 ] MrMean > they did not respond to any questions asked in local
 [ 2004.03.20 04:24:52 ] Monarch > that's what we agreed upon. and i intend to take care of all of my responsibilities.
 [ 2004.03.20 04:24:56 ] MrMean > we did not .. is a matter of confusion if u think we did
 [ 2004.03.20 04:25:03 ] Monarch > perhaps open a chat chan with one of them??
 [ 2004.03.20 04:25:13 ] WhiteMist > dude i asked did they pay and they had no knowage of any payment.......
 [ 2004.03.20 04:25:15 ] Monarch > also, could you verify who all was down there from uni??
 [ 2004.03.20 04:25:16 ] MrMean > like i said mate .. i was not there ..
 [ 2004.03.20 04:25:25 ] MrMean > i do not know exactly how it went down
 [ 2004.03.20 04:25:32 ] Monarch > there is debate that there was only 2 of them and one was in a noob ship, the other in a tempest, doing npcs.
 [ 2004.03.20 04:25:34 ] MrMean > mist probably can
 [ 2004.03.20 04:25:41 ] Monarch > mist was the one that took the tempest.
 [ 2004.03.20 04:25:46 ] Monarch > and i would like it back.
 [ 2004.03.20 04:26:36 ] MrMean > mist is not the one in possesion of teh temp atm .. has been given to a newer member
 [ 2004.03.20 04:27:03 ] Monarch > never the less. i would like it back because you are in current default of the contract by seizing the ship in the first place
 [ 2004.03.20 04:27:30 ] Monarch > and upon return of the ship, i will pay for every member of uni going down there.
 [ 2004.03.20 04:27:36 ] Monarch > as agreed upon.
 [ 2004.03.20 04:28:17 ] MrMean > well .. i dont think this is going to go anywhere mate .. we do not make reparaitions nor does anyone on our end feel there was any nap with the uni corp to have been violated
 [ 2004.03.20 04:28:57 ] Monarch > i shall post this on the forums and let others judge you accordingly then. good day to you sirs.
 
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        |  Monarch
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.20 04:51:00 -
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 Channelname: MrMean conversation
 Listener: Monarch
 Session started: 2004.03.20 04:07:54
 
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 [ 2004.03.20 04:08:10 ] MrMean > sup
 [ 2004.03.20 04:08:17 ] Monarch > are you aware of the situation at hand??
 [ 2004.03.20 04:08:46 ] MrMean > i am aware that a member from uni ejected from tempest if that is what u speak of
 [ 2004.03.20 04:09:14 ] Monarch > but the situation arises when there was an agreement already made that you guys would get paid for all of uni to go down there.
 [ 2004.03.20 04:09:38 ] Monarch > and then your corp goes back on their word.
 [ 2004.03.20 04:09:44 ] MrMean > yes but as i understand they came down to assah .. were asked for payment .. and would not respond ..
 [ 2004.03.20 04:10:05 ] Monarch > there was no mention of that, and I was the one responsible for payment...
 [ 2004.03.20 04:10:15 ] MrMean > you are the only one we ever recieved payment from and yours was refunded
 [ 2004.03.20 04:10:29 ] Monarch > i assured your corp that they would recieve payment for all uni to go down there. your corp agreed, i can send you the chat logs if you wish.
 [ 2004.03.20 04:10:51 ] Monarch > so what your'e saying is.. you saw an opportunity to steal a tempest and decide to do so and send me the 1m back??
 [ 2004.03.20 04:11:19 ] Monarch > there was an agreement that all of uni would be paid for.
 [ 2004.03.20 04:11:27 ] MrMean > no am saying the uni guys would not acknowledge attempts to communicate and since no payment was recieved from them they were attacked
 [ 2004.03.20 04:11:47 ] MrMean > they had been in assah all day
 [ 2004.03.20 04:11:53 ] Monarch > the payment was to be recieved from me according to the logs with 3 of the ceos.
 [ 2004.03.20 04:12:06 ] Monarch > please send me a chat log asking for isk and them denying it.
 [ 2004.03.20 04:12:55 ] MrMean > would have to ask whitemist for that .. am only relaying what i have been told ..
 [ 2004.03.20 04:12:58 ] MrMean > they guy i spoke with who lost his tempest said that he was unaware he had to pay anything ..
 [ 2004.03.20 04:13:13 ] Monarch > i was taking care of payments.
 [ 2004.03.20 04:13:21 ] Monarch > and the ceo of uni.
 [ 2004.03.20 04:13:52 ] Monarch > it was told to me that the ammount i was paying was very low and i informed the ceo that the information of the price shouldn't be conveyed to the rest of the corp
 [ 2004.03.20 04:14:10 ] MrMean > i think the real issue is that people did not want to seem them sit there and mine all day in a system we try to keep clean for corp usage when necessary without even securing payment
 [ 2004.03.20 04:14:25 ] Monarch > there was no mining, only npc ratting.
 [ 2004.03.20 04:14:40 ] MrMean > i would not know .. had nothing to do with it
 [ 2004.03.20 04:14:42 ] Monarch > that information should have also been conveyed.
 [ 2004.03.20 04:15:00 ] Monarch > if you didn't want anyone to hang out in assah, i think that is something that we should be told.
 [ 2004.03.20 04:15:16 ] Monarch > i talked to several of your corpmates in assah on local and no mention of it was made.
 [ 2004.03.20 04:15:36 ] MrMean > i can not say how but they guys have said they made attempts to talk with them and got no response
 [ 2004.03.20 04:15:59 ] Monarch > what i would like from you is a review of the chat logs and notice that i nor any uni was in breech of our contract.
 [ 2004.03.20 04:16:05 ] Monarch > and i would like the tempest back.
 [ 2004.03.20 04:16:19 ] Monarch > i would hate for this to stop us from doing further business transactions.
 [ 2004.03.20 04:16:36 ] MrMean > that is not my decision to make .. as i told the guy who lost it i cannot make them do anything
 [ 2004.03.20 04:16:57 ] Monarch > white was the one that told me to talk to you about the situation.
 [ 2004.03.20 04:17:18 ] MrMean > as i am a ceo .. but dont mean i play for the others ..
 [ 2004.03.20 04:17:23 ] MrMean > they are they're own masters
 [ 2004.03.20 04:17:33 ] WhiteMist > ......
 [ 2004.03.20 04:17:37 ] Monarch > white, we're confering about the tempest situation.
 [ 2004.03.20 04:17:47 ] WhiteMist > yes...
 [ 2004.03.20 04:17:51 ] Monarch > what i don't understand is how you would take the temepst, knowing what the agreement was.
 [ 2004.03.20 04:18:15 ] Monarch > you were there for most of the arangements.
 [ 2004.03.20 04:18:16 ] WhiteMist > are agreement was that they would apy.
 [ 2004.03.20 04:18:21 ] MrMean > because there was no gaurentee they weren't just going to hang out and leave without payment
 [ 2004.03.20 04:18:21 ] Monarch > i would pay.
 [ 2004.03.20 04:18:30 ] Monarch > there was a garuntee.
 [ 2004.03.20 04:18:31 ] WhiteMist > u had about 10uni members there in assah.
 [ 2004.03.20 04:18:33 ] Monarch > i garunteed it.
 [ 2004.03.20 04:18:39 ] WhiteMist > and no payment.
 
 
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        |  Monarch
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.20 04:52:00 -
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 [ 2004.03.20 04:29:10 ] WhiteMist > wait..
 [ 2004.03.20 04:29:14 ] Monarch > the chat logs will be posted also that i have been making reference
 [ 2004.03.20 04:29:21 ] MrMean > well .. that is your business ..
 [ 2004.03.20 04:29:45 ] MrMean > nothing we can do about that nor does it matter as we are not an important corp
 [ 2004.03.20 04:30:09 ] Monarch > i'm not being irate, dirty mouthed, or cynical. i can understand that this is a misunderstanding, i would like the ship back and i will pay for all of the uni members that have gone down there.
 [ 2004.03.20 04:30:29 ] Monarch > as per our agreement.
 [ 2004.03.20 04:30:47 ] MrMean > and as i said .. we now have a new member in a tempest who i highly doubt is going to give it up for a couple mil ..
 [ 2004.03.20 04:31:02 ] MrMean > is not in my power to do anything but kick him from the corp
 [ 2004.03.20 04:31:05 ] Monarch > it wasn't his to begin with, it was taken under false pretenses.
 [ 2004.03.20 04:31:38 ] Monarch > then it shall be duly noted that you are little more than a figure head and aren't in fact in any power in your corp obvisouly
 [ 2004.03.20 04:31:55 ] MrMean > lol .. no one is mate .. i cannot beat them up
 [ 2004.03.20 04:32:16 ] MrMean > nor can i or any other player in eve takes things out of others hangers .. nor is this MY corp
 [ 2004.03.20 04:32:32 ] Monarch > i'm not saying you can. i am saying that you are the ceo and should have some power, especially to give a ship back that was taken when it in fact should not have.
 [ 2004.03.20 04:32:43 ] WhiteMist > as i said this is what happend...i was in and out of assah all day 5-6 hour with abut 5-6 memebrs i asked in local did they pay to be here they didnt answer to my questions after about 5- hours of seeing them in there i was feed up with it...they also had no knowlge of any payment they had to make therefore i inforcedm them out of the system till payment he ejected out of his ship he could of collected a 40% insurnce loss on the ship but ran away..it was his choce to git out......if u feel u have to post it on the forums then go ahead they were there all day with no payment that gave them enoguh time...to gt what they wanted and to git out.so i tookm mesures to supply are corp with the funds....
 [ 2004.03.20 04:33:40 ] Monarch > then that is how it shall be. good day to you sirs and i expect responses on the forums. i'll start posting it immediately.
 [ 2004.03.20 04:34:14 ] MrMean > that is your perogative ..
 [ 2004.03.20 04:34:22 ] MrMean > and good day do u as well
 [ 2004.03.20 04:34:26 ] WhiteMist > bye...
 
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        |  Jaseara
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.20 05:27:00 -
          [7] 
 Not another long boring post from you. Thanks for the warning about Corp1. But a few lines would've sufficed.
 
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        |  General Meridus
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.20 06:15:00 -
          [8] 
 WhiteMist >
 
 LEARN TO COUNT! I am glad you graduated 2nd grade and all, but apparently you didn't do well in MATH ... because if you did,you would have known that 1 + 1 = 2 = the EXACT amount of UNI in ASSAH all day, not the 6 - 10 you claim. And since I just educated you on childhood math ... you should be thankful.
 
 Also, since there were LOTS of RAT cans around. How does that show we were mining? Yes, it could be misleading with your lack of intelligence. However, since I was there ALL day RATTING, and noone botherd to talk to ME or the ONLY other UNI there ... you made absolutely NO attempt to collect the 1m isk or make sure we knew we had to pay. You were Out For Blood, thats it.
 
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        |  Darodem
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.20 07:19:00 -
          [9] 
 Corp 1 has been classified as CWAN crap without a nap. They will harbor corporate theives, break NAPs, ask for treaties they do not intend to honor, lie to entrap you, run and hide when the going gets tough.
 
 They mark it all up to role play because they are pirates. These mad dogs are foaming at the mouth and need to be put down.
 
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        |  Tobruk
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.20 07:25:00 -
          [10] 
 dont worry i stole whitemists first BS and he cried like a noob
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        |  Dekar
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.20 08:29:00 -
          [11] 
 Edited by: Dekar on 20/03/2004 08:33:25
 
 This contract of yours is cr*p.
 
 Neither side has the slightest clue about contracts. Next time, arrange a timelimit for paying instead of "you get my word that you'll be paid". Cuz that stands for nothing. You wouldn't break your word even IF you didn't pay them for a year, as no time was stated.
 
 Contracts based on cr*p are bound to be mishandled. And people stupid enough to form them are bound to get the short end of the stick one way or the other.
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        |  WhiteMist
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.20 09:47:00 -
          [12] 
 
  ok fisrt of all........i saw more than ****in 2 guys in assah second of all i talked 2 u guys after about 4hours of u being there neather of u guys talked to me..after about the 4times goign abck n forth i talked to mr mean...about if u guys made payment...the answer was no..and as for the newb who ejected out of his tempest...git a backbone....u could of died and got a 40% insurnce at least....but now u ahve nothing and as tobruk said he took my fisrt bs with this character even before it was assembled so im not goan cry for u ok..to be honest we have naps with corps that do work cause they pay upfrount and dont *****foot around..we well take future acts such as this into account but oh well....whats done is done..:) so what ever...im here come git me if u wish...u know were to find me..  
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        |  Haratu
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.20 10:11:00 -
          [13] 
 You trust 'MrMean'? He is a pirate.
 
 Never trust pirates, especially Corp1 guys.
 
 Of course I am biased, especially in the case of MrMean, he podded my little brother.
 
 I roleplay... there is this computer game called "Earth - The First Genesis" where i play a character in the early 21st century.
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        |  C4w3
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.20 10:22:00 -
          [14] 
 Oh my god... im not usually post on the forums, or reply to carebears.
 
 But hear it goes.
 
 First Corp 1 Do not do NAP¦s (If not profitable ROFL) if any we have agreements with 2-4 corp¦s no names but they are werry pleased im sure.
 
 Second.
 
 STK--> ROFL Do you really think you are in position to say anything?
 
 
  
 "If all the heroes are standing together around a strange device and begin to taunt me, I will pull out a conventional one.
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        |  swisher
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.20 10:36:00 -
          [15] 
 Edited by: swisher on 20/03/2004 10:44:48
 ...MrMean and WhiteMist clearly..stated the rules of are NAPs with people/corps..the person didnt pay up..and didnt take the role of a good CEO to inform the rest of this corp about all the details..due to his lack of leadership ..this turned out bad for him. I do think its funny as all of you people think we arent good w/trustworthy with naps...well if you notice none of the other corps that we have them with have ever whined about it...because they dont beat around the bush when it comes to striking a deal and paying up. Hopefully Monarch has learned a lesson here..on communication..and "putting the money where the mouth is"...
 
 -swish
 
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        |  Monarch
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.20 10:42:00 -
          [16] 
 There have been posts about whether or not a pirate should be honorable after their word has been given, one incident that comes to mind when pu55ycat held someone up for 18m and destroyed him anyways, and then gave the isk back after the confusion was cleared up.
 if a pirate says he's going to do something, and then doesn't, then why would ANYONE else ever listen to him again??
 a short example:
 a noob in a bs goes flying through a sector, you stop him and charge a toll, and threaten to kill him if he doesn't pay. if you can't be trusted, why wouldn't they just say 'screw off' and try to run, we all know you can easily make more from tolls than the destruction of a ship.
 
 if corp 1 doesnt' do nap, they should have said so, as the chat log goes into gross overdetail about it, and even stipulates that it's 1m per week per person. they didn't follow the guidelines that were agreed to so they breached the contract, that's it, pure and simple the tempest that they aquired was stolen from a 'friendly' person. and when did they expect to get paid for people that were going down there anyways while i was offline?? i think GM is correct in assuming that they were out for blood and just bored.
 
 whitemist, i'll definately duel you 1 vs 1 in sector of my choosing. unlike you, i won't lie, or try to cheat with more than myself. why don't we even make a wager on the outcome of the fight, say... 1 tempest to the winner. you let me know when, and i'll let you know where.
 
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        |  swisher
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.20 10:53:00 -
          [17] 
 
  Quote: 
 whitemist, i'll definately duel you 1 vs 1 in sector of my choosing. unlike you, i won't lie, or try to cheat with more than myself. why don't we even make a wager on the outcome of the fight, say... 1 tempest to the winner. you let me know when, and i'll let you know where.
 
 
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        |  Gats
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.20 10:57:00 -
          [18] 
 omg .... first lose a bs in a very disrespectfull manner and then some one goes begging after it :s
 
 shameless ppl ...
 
 
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        |  WhiteMist
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.20 11:11:00 -
          [19] 
 whitemist, i'll definately duel you 1 vs 1 in sector of my choosing. unlike you, i won't lie, or try to cheat with more than myself. why don't we even make a wager on the outcome of the fight, say... 1 tempest to the winner. you let me know when, and i'll let you know where.
 lmao u kiddign right? i made your friend eject u think he had a choice lmao...youll die jsut the same lmao..********s like this deserve to die..carebear/pirate alike....
  
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        |  Zanistar
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.20 11:51:00 -
          [20] 
 Well since there is dueling going on ......
  
 Zanistar
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        |  Linh Ywang
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.20 15:58:00 -
          [21] 
 Pay, be nice. Then we have a NAP.
 
 If you don't pay and if you fool around with us, WhiteMist will be sent to make your noobs eject from you Tempests for free.
 _________________________
 HC MasiEEE for PRESIDENT
 Official Election Manager Extraordinair
 
 
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        |  Monica Scuro
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.20 18:07:00 -
          [22] 
 Todays lesson again, dont pay asshat pirates. They lie...
 
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        |  General Meridus
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.20 18:18:00 -
          [23] 
 Edited by: General Meridus on 20/03/2004 18:44:45
 WhiteMist >
 
 Get youy lying head out of your a$$. IF you really think there was 6 UNI ... show proof. See the problem there? You cant because there is none. Also, you are just TRYING to make it sound like there were more UNI so people would sympathize with you. What a shame you can't tell the truth, but I guess that would make you an Honourable Pirate.
 
 As I said before ... 1 + 1 = 2 ... definately NOT the 6 you are claiming. Take your pea sized brain back to school and learn some math.
 
 Oh, btw. 5 v 1 with people shooting Torps ... can we say podded after the ship blew?
 
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        |  Toulak
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.20 18:46:00 -
          [24] 
 
  Quote: Oh my god... im not usually post on the forums, or reply to carebears.
 
 
 
 Do you feel superior when you go around calling others carebears?
 
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        |  Monarch
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.20 21:29:00 -
          [25] 
 
  Quote: lmao u kiddign right? i made your friend eject u think he had a choice lmao...youll die jsut the same lmao..********s like this deserve to die..carebear/pirate alike....
 
 
 do so, tell me when you want to duel and i'll give you the sector.
 
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        |  drunkenmaster
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.20 22:14:00 -
          [26] 
 tl;dr
 .
 
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        |  Nafri
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.20 22:28:00 -
          [27] 
 bah, only for this long post i would pod ya
  Wanna fly with me?
 
 
 
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        |  Monarch
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.21 02:17:00 -
          [28] 
 Edited by: Monarch on 22/03/2004 11:09:24
 off subject - fixed.
 
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        |  Squirrel
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.21 04:55:00 -
          [29] 
 Im saying this as an observer....I was not there to witness the events etc...
 
 However..Based from Monarch's history being a man of his word...always paying back loans etc...and of Corp 1 twisting this and stabbing them in the back just isnt right...
 
 honestly, people from corp 1.. that is one of if not the most pathetic and cowardly thing i have seen so far playing eve...and i've been here since ther start...do you people have no deceny, morality or sense of right and wrong?
  
 anyways...enough of the kind, sensible not profaine language...you people dont deserve it..u guys r total ass holes and are going to get podded repeatedly by people who actually know ur gonna shoot at them,stab them in the back etc....watch out noobs.... people with actual skills are gonna be looking for u now..and were hoping you have implants...just so you'll scream louder in local as we kill each of you slowly and watching you cry NO I"LL PAY!
 
 
 
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 Carfax > guys, please dont pvp here, it messes up the avoid pd kill zones autopilot option
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        |  swe fd
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.21 11:25:00 -
          [30] 
 
  Quote: Im saying this as an observer....I was not there to witness the events etc...
 
 However..Based from Monarch's history being a man of his word...always paying back loans etc...and of Corp 1 twisting this and stabbing them in the back just isnt right...
 
 honestly, people from corp 1.. that is one of if not the most pathetic and cowardly thing i have seen so far playing eve...and i've been here since ther start...do you people have no deceny, morality or sense of right and wrong?
  
 anyways...enough of the kind, sensible not profaine language...you people dont deserve it..u guys r total ass holes and are going to get podded repeatedly by people who actually know ur gonna shoot at them,stab them in the back etc....watch out noobs.... people with actual skills are gonna be looking for u now..and were hoping you have implants...just so you'll scream louder in local as we kill each of you slowly and watching you cry NO I"LL PAY!
 
 
 
 
 
 yawn ....
 
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        |  Berit
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.21 14:46:00 -
          [31] 
 arent we all having fun?!
 I¦v been with Corp1 for a while now and we all have pretty fun gaming together... some of us pvp, some mine, and some do noobie training. Thats whats its all about, isent it...
 
 and for the record, i have never, ever pod another player... yet
 
 take care all and hope to see you out there
 
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        |  Sally
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.21 14:56:00 -
          [32] 
 
  Quote: Im saying this as an observer....I was not there to witness the events etc...
 
 However..Based from Monarch's history being a man of his word...always paying back loans etc...and of Corp 1 twisting this and stabbing them in the back just isnt right...
 
 honestly, people from corp 1.. that is one of if not the most pathetic and cowardly thing i have seen so far playing eve...and i've been here since ther start...do you people have no deceny, morality or sense of right and wrong?
  
 anyways...enough of the kind, sensible not profaine language...you people dont deserve it..u guys r total ass holes and are going to get podded repeatedly by people who actually know ur gonna shoot at them,stab them in the back etc....watch out noobs.... people with actual skills are gonna be looking for u now..and were hoping you have implants...just so you'll scream louder in local as we kill each of you slowly and watching you cry NO I"LL PAY!
 
 
 
 
 Get off the weed dude. It has some serious side effects on your cerebral functions.
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        |  Nafri
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.21 18:35:00 -
          [33] 
 well its a game, and its corp1 thing how to deal with others
  Wanna fly with me?
 
 
 
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        |  Borg Fusion
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.21 18:42:00 -
          [34] 
 Edited by: Borg Fusion on 21/03/2004 18:43:54
 
  Quote: well its a game, and its corp1 thing how to deal with others
  
 
 Bah...Hmmmm
  
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        |  FEvul
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.22 08:32:00 -
          [35] 
 
  Quote: Just a warning to people that do business with Corp 1.
 
 That is just lame to drag all Corp 1 down the drain with this whining...
 
 
  Quote: ...we all know you can easily make more from tolls than the destruction of a ship.
 
 Where¦s the fun in that ? we need material for our frap-movies !
 
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        |  Adriana
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.22 09:03:00 -
          [36] 
 This whole thing seems to me like bad form on both sides.
 
 First of all, you have monarch agreeing to pay, but the people there weren't paid for, and would not answer.
 
 Second you have corp 1 who agreed to this deal, but stole a tempest.
 
 The solution would seem to be return the tempest, and for monarch to reimburse corp 1 for everyone who went down there. Corp 1 won't do this. I'd have to say that I'd think twice b4 trusting anything corp 1 said to me, and then think twice more.
 
 All of this is assuming you believe it is right for them to charge you to be there in the first place. Perhaps you should gather your forces and go in there guns blazing Monarch.
 
 I'm sure if you get a few of their battleships near to collapse that they will be more than happy to return the tempest, at that point it would be interesting to see whether you would let it go for just a tempest and a few million isk.
 
 Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.
 -Napoleon Bonaparte
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        |  WhiteMist
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.22 09:23:00 -
          [37] 
 
  Quote: This whole thing seems to me like bad form on both sides.
 
 First of all, you have monarch agreeing to pay, but the people there weren''t paid for, and would not answer.
 
 Second you have corp 1 who agreed to this deal, but stole a tempest.
 
 The solution would seem to be return the tempest, and for monarch to reimburse corp 1 for everyone who went down there. Corp 1 won''t do this. I''d have to say that I''d think twice b4 trusting anything corp 1 said to me, and then think twice more.
 
 All of this is assuming you believe it is right for them to charge you to be there in the first place. Perhaps you should gather your forces and go in there guns blazing Monarch.
 
 I''m sure if you get a few of their battleships near to collapse that they will be more than happy to return the tempest, at that point it would be interesting to see whether you would let it go for just a tempest and a few million isk.
 
 
 lmao ya right monarch come down witha force my ass.....lmao thats the funniest thing ive ever heard they know are power and they know they will lose more bs than we do...by far..
   
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        |  C4w3
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.22 09:32:00 -
          [38] 
 Squirrel-->
 
 Do i even have to comment this (Pointing at your Corp tag) If Corp 1 made a misstake we takes care of it most of the time giving the victim a solution that everyone likes.
 Second we all play this GAME, Diffrently earning you ISK, by mining, hunting, PVP, ransoms and so on. Tell me the diffrent between gatecamping and ransoming ISK from players and 2 jumps later they get podded?
 So if someone says to me or my corp m8tes ill pay to do whatever in whatever and he dont = death, as simple as that.
 
 Dont like it, hate me, whine and cry sending me mails about tracking me down.
 
 Iw always been here.
 
 Still here.
 
 I dont CARE about Forum warriors.
 
 Quote:::: Monarch > i talked to a corp mate of yours earlier seemed like a nice guy. who should i talk to about a NAP or are you guys not into those??
 
 In that sentence, is there something you dont understand????
 
 End quote.
 
 
 
 
 
   
 "If all the heroes are standing together around a strange device and begin to taunt me, I will pull out a conventional one.
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        |  Monarch
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.22 11:07:00 -
          [39] 
 
  Quote: lmao ya right monarch come down witha force my ass.....lmao thats the funniest thing ive ever heard they know are power and they know they will lose more bs than we do...by far..
 
 
 You have yet to respond to my challenge Whitemist. if you feel so superior, then prove it, 1 vs 1, me vs. you.
 the wager: 1 tempest.
 you name the time.
 i'll name the location.
 
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        |  C4w3
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.22 12:02:00 -
          [40] 
 
   
 Monarch have you read the convo you had? and do you understand what the Corp 1 men said?
 
 Have the best of days Sir.
 
 Sincearly C4w3.
 
 
  
 "If all the heroes are standing together around a strange device and begin to taunt me, I will pull out a conventional one.
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        |  Knat
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.22 12:12:00 -
          [41] 
 Everybody knows not to do bussiness with Corp1
 
 but thanks for the warning anyway
 
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        |  Nafri
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.22 14:36:00 -
          [42] 
 Well, i thinks its ok now. Now i read the convo, and i must say: Monarch, pay and you wont die
  
 why should corp1 trust you that you will pay later
  Wanna fly with me?
 
 
 
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        |  Grizwold
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.22 15:19:00 -
          [43] 
 Because he is honest and has a proven track record. Whereas, Corp 1 has made themselves a reputation for going back on deals.
 
 edited by Eris Discordia
 
 
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        |  Jeremiah De'sparta
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.22 16:05:00 -
          [44] 
 i don't give a ******* flying **** to these acusations... u got screwed over cuz of ur internal mistake, nothing to do with us. we were just inforcing our terein.
 
 ps. alll these ppl saying they gona come down or saying that corp 1 don't have skills and can't pvp, PUT UR ISK WHERE UR POSTS ARE AND COME FIND US!!!!!!!!!!! u know where we are and if u don't try checking derelick and providence. (btw try checking the sistems .4 and below... just a note to those that maibe not be sure where to look)
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        |  Nafri
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.22 16:42:00 -
          [45] 
 well i like the taste of ass
  Wanna fly with me?
 
 
 
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        |  John Blackthorn
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.22 17:06:00 -
          [46] 
 About two weeks ago I was down in southern derlik npc hutning in my raven. I ran onto some corp 1 and offered to pay a hutning fee for them to just leave me in peace. Which I paid, and I didn't mind paying it. Somone spoke about a nap and said we would get together and discuss it later. I left the chat stating if you have any questions or have a problem with myself or a corp mate just conv me anytime.
 
 Two days later I was participating in a corp mining op for some jaspet and I saw sally warp into the system. I tried to raise sally on local and spoke a few lines such as "how are you" "how's corp 1" "need anyting form us?"
 
 about 20 minutes passet and the next thing i know we have a tempest, two ravens, and a bb warp into our mining op. Everyone got away except myself which I was guarding our haulers.
 
 Just another example of how corp 1 lures peopel into thinking they are frendly only to screw them over. I honestly felt corp 1 would at least give me a warning or tell us to pay up some money. But we were not even in territory that they claim.
 
 Just be forwarned. I just finshed a new ship myself but I will stay out of there way from now on and have no dealings with them.
 
 -BT
 
 But it is a shame that you can't travel in this game hardly at all, at least to any low securty or 0.0 systems unless your traveling in a fleet. All i wanted to do orignallyw as shoot some npc.
 
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        |  C4w3
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.22 17:07:00 -
          [47] 
 What a man got to do for a piece of ass in this time of age.
 
 
  
 "If all the heroes are standing together around a strange device and begin to taunt me, I will pull out a conventional one.
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        |  Raeff
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.22 18:06:00 -
          [48] 
 
  Quote: i don't give a ******* flying **** to these acusations... u got screwed over cuz of ur internal mistake, nothing to do with us. we were just inforcing our terein.
 
 ps. alll these ppl saying they gona come down or saying that corp 1 don't have skills and can't pvp, PUT UR ISK WHERE UR POSTS ARE AND COME FIND US!!!!!!!!!!! u know where we are and if u don't try checking derelick and providence. (btw try checking the sistems .4 and below... just a note to those that maibe not be sure where to look)
 
 
 i must be missing something here or did monarch not already challenge and the chellenged party seems to be trying to change the subject? lol
 
 
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        |  Sally
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.22 18:21:00 -
          [49] 
 Edited by: Sally on 22/03/2004 18:22:52
 
  Quote: Two days later I was participating in a corp mining op for some jaspet and I saw sally warp into the system. I tried to raise sally on local and spoke a few lines such as "how are you" "how's corp 1" "need anyting form us?"
 
 about 20 minutes passet and the next thing i know we have a tempest, two ravens, and a bb warp into our mining op. Everyone got away except myself which I was guarding our haulers.
 
 Just another example of how corp 1 lures peopel into thinking they are frendly only to screw them over. I honestly felt corp 1 would at least give me a warning or tell us to pay up some money. But we were not even in territory that they claim.
 
 Just be forwarned. I just finshed a new ship myself but I will stay out of there way from now on and have no dealings with them.
 
 
 
 LOL!
 
 This is a very funny post. Indeed. Like I'd need 20 minutes to find your fat ass Raven in a belt. I entered the system quickly, found you on the scanner within seconds and I asked the others to jump in and to warp to your position, we killed your Raven in around 2 minutes and left.
 
 I remeber you saying something like "I am under attack", by the time you were already half dead.
 
 You are just another whining carebear who tried to mine our ore and now you are whining on the forums about the loss of your ship.
 
 At least I say good job to everyone who blows my ships up and at least I can backup what happened with some logs:
 
 Log 1:
 
 
  Quote: ------------------------------------------------------------
 
 Gamelog
 Listener: Sally
 Session started: 2004.03.08 01:32:23
 
 ------------------------------------------------------------
 
 [ 2004.03.08 01:32:32 ] (notify) Autopilot warping to Futzchag stargate
 [ 2004.03.08 01:33:34 ] (notify) Autopilot approaching stargate
 [ 2004.03.08 01:33:59 ] (notify) Autopilot disabled toggled by shipUI
 [ 2004.03.08 01:33:59 ] (notify) Autopilot disabled
 [ 2004.03.08 01:47:42 ] (None) Jumping to Stargate (Kazna) in Futzchag solarsystem
 
 
 Log 2:
 
 
  Quote: ------------------------------------------------------------
 
 Gamelog
 Listener: Sally
 Session started: 2004.03.08 01:47:49
 
 ------------------------------------------------------------
 
 [ 2004.03.08 01:48:00 ] (notify) Warping to Futzchag V - Asteroid Belt 1
 [ 2004.03.08 01:49:05 ] (notify) For initiating combat your security status has been adjusted by -0.1000.
 [ 2004.03.08 01:49:07 ] (notify) Interference from the warp Ore Galore is preventing your sensors from getting a target lock on them.
 [ 2004.03.08 01:49:10 ] (combat) Your Neutron Blaster Cannon I glances off John Blackthorn [FND], causing no real damage.
 [ 2004.03.08 01:49:11 ] (combat) Your Neutron Blaster Cannon I hits John Blackthorn [FND], doing 133.9 damage.
 [ 2004.03.08 01:49:16 ] (combat) Your Neutron Blaster Cannon I hits John Blackthorn [FND], doing 133.9 damage.
 [ 2004.03.08 01:49:17 ] (combat) Your Neutron Blaster Cannon I glances off John Blackthorn [FND], causing no real damage.
 [ 2004.03.08 01:49:17 ] (notify) FEvul [CORP1] has started trying to warp scramble the Battleship, "John Blackthorn [FND]"
 
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 [ 2004.03.08 01:50:14 ] (notify) For participating in the kill of a Raven your security status has been adjusted by -0.4000.
 [ 2004.03.08 01:50:15 ] (combat) Modune [FND] barely scratches you, causing 9.5 damage.
 [ 2004.03.08 01:50:18 ] (notify) For participating in the podding of John Blackthorn your security status has been adjusted by -2.5000.
 [ 2004.03.08 01:50:18 ] (combat) Your Paradise Cruise Missile I hits John Blackthorn [FND], doing 197.7 splash damage.
 
 
 So your 20 minutes with me in the system were like 11-18 seconds. And btw., I do not care about you speaking to someone of Corp 1 and bla bla bla. Negotiate, pay up, you get a good standing with us and that's the deal.
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        |  Insane Angel
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.22 18:23:00 -
          [50] 
 
  Quote: What a man got to do for a piece of ass in this time of age.
 
 
  
 
 Stay away from Nafri, shes all mine!
  
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        |  Nafri
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.22 18:55:00 -
          [51] 
 
  Quote: 
  Quote: What a man got to do for a piece of ass in this time of age.
 
 
  
 
 Stay away from Nafri, shes all mine!
  
 
 aye sir! Love Angel Nafri at your service
 Wanna fly with me?
 
 
 
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        |  archangel sean
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.23 09:17:00 -
          [52] 
 /me chuckles..
 
 Monarch, while i'm around the area atm, call me if you need a bounty hunter...heh..:)
 
 ..oh and I thought Sally left the game...
 
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        |  swisher
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.23 10:00:00 -
          [53] 
 Edited by: swisher on 23/03/2004 10:02:15
 
  Quote: /me chuckles..
 
 Monarch, while i'm around the area atm, call me if you need a bounty hunter...heh..:)
 
 ..oh and I thought Sally left the game...
 
 
 rofl..
 
 Last time I checked sean...I didnt have to bad of a bounty on my head...been there for awhile..
 
 -swish
 
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        |  Nafri
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.23 18:34:00 -
          [54] 
 
  Quote: /me chuckles..
 
 Monarch, while i'm around the area atm, call me if you need a bounty hunter...heh..:)
 
 ..oh and I thought Sally left the game...
 
 
 well, arent you xetic? when yes, i fear you should do other things
  Wanna fly with me?
 
 
 
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        |  DevilDogUSMC
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.24 06:25:00 -
          [55] 
 [ 2004.03.19 08:57:50 ] C4w3 > ;0)
 [ 2004.03.19 08:58:05 ] C4w3 > Or you just could get a nap with us
 [ 2004.03.19 08:58:09 ] DevilDogUSMC > /
 [ 2004.03.19 08:58:09 ] DevilDogUSMC > /
 [ 2004.03.19 08:58:10 ] DevilDogUSMC > /
 [ 2004.03.19 08:58:11 ] DevilDogUSMC > /
 [ 2004.03.19 08:58:12 ] DevilDogUSMC > /
 [ 2004.03.19 08:58:12 ] DevilDogUSMC > /
 [ 2004.03.19 08:58:13 ] DevilDogUSMC > /
 [ 2004.03.19 08:58:22 ] DevilDogUSMC > /NAP???
 [ 2004.03.19 08:58:24 ] DevilDogUSMC > nap?
 [ 2004.03.19 08:58:27 ] DevilDogUSMC > whats nap?
 [ 2004.03.19 08:59:20 ] C4w3 > Non agression pakt
 [ 2004.03.19 09:00:54 ] DevilDogUSMC > well you see, I dont know how most of my members would think about that
 [ 2004.03.19 09:01:21 ] DevilDogUSMC > plus I dont feel like I need to Pay you for mining in a 0.2 or 0.1 when its free space
 [ 2004.03.19 09:02:35 ] C4w3 > Well it¦s always...... like this the only thing we provide is a safe haven for friends and new friends
 [ 2004.03.19 09:02:50 ] C4w3 > i never had a customer that has been dissapointed
 [ 2004.03.19 09:02:58 ] DevilDogUSMC > ok
 [ 2004.03.19 09:03:16 ] DevilDogUSMC > but your wanting me to what ,??? Pay you for staying there??? No way , I pay CCP to mine where ever I want.
  
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        |  Deadflip2
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.24 11:33:00 -
          [56] 
 pirating is a fine business, but STFU corp 1, you cant clal urself pirates, you're griefers. Keep youreself to the pirates codes or leave the game. You ruin the names of us other pirates!!!
 
 KTHNX
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 "this song reminds me of the girl i met on a schooltrip, she was really nice, and she really liked me.
 I forgot to ask her her phone number" - Nelix trist
 OMG im a pretzel!!!
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        |  Yarrick
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.24 12:15:00 -
          [57] 
 Please 'DeadFlip2', inform me on how corp 1 are 'griefers'.
 You obviously know something i dont.
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        |  OPPercy
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.24 14:36:00 -
          [58] 
 Keep youreself to the pirates codes or leave the game. You ruin the names of us other pirates!!!
 
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 Whats a pirate code??
   
 And do u have a name sir??
 
 And by the way We are not pirates we are freedom fighters who release our foes souls into the vacuum in space.
 
 
 
 /Proud member of Corp1
 
 
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        |  John Blackthorn
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.24 15:29:00 -
          [59] 
 Sally,
 
 Now where in my post did I complain about about being blown up and acting like a carebear? I was in full battle gear, I got beat fair enouph. My comment was that 1) we were not in your territory. and 2) just 48 hours before I had purchased a npc pass and one of your members brought up the idea of a nap. Which i found strange but went along with it because we at the time would be interested in a nap. 3) I stated I would not have any futher dealings with corp 1 and would stay out of there way.
 
 Did not say I would hunt corp 1, or make idel threats especially one that I know that I can not back up. At least 4 vs 1 anyway.
 
 -BT
  
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        |  FEvul
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.24 15:43:00 -
          [60] 
 
  Quote: pirating is a fine business, but STFU corp 1, you cant clal urself pirates, you're griefers. Keep youreself to the pirates codes or leave the game. You ruin the names of us other pirates!!!
 
 KTHNX
 
 I¦d say STFU to you, pirates dont whine like little *****es like you do, btw what do you know about us anyway, do you really know any players in Corp 1 ??? prolly not ! tbh I¦m getting so ******* tired of ppl acusing everyone and everywhere for no reason !!
 
 Make us all a favor Deadflip2, leave the game or turn carebear !
 
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        |  Monarch
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.25 00:25:00 -
          [61] 
 
  Quote: I¦m getting so ******* tired of ppl acusing everyone and everywhere for no reason !!
 
 
  ROFLMFAO!!  
 did you even read anything that has been said?? do yourself a favor and just take the time to read the chat logs, boring yes, but you can plainly see that there is definately cause for your corp being slandered. hate handled himself very well, and i did trust him that the NAP would be upheld. it would be nice to see his opinion on this since he was doing a majority of the talking when it came to the NAP.
 
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        |  FEvul
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.25 08:06:00 -
          [62] 
 
  Quote: did you even read anything that has been said?? do yourself a favor and just take the time to read the chat logs...
 
 I was not refering to your issue, just that flip2-dude¦s pointless posts...
 
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        |  awebon
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.25 10:43:00 -
          [63] 
 My corp has been talking with Corp 1 for jus under a week, and they seem like cool guys. If people jus take the time out to talk to people instead of labeling others "Pirates" etc. Pirate are a part of the game, jus like we have terriosts in RL. If people cant deal with pirates within Eve i personally think they should consider a new game.
 
 Yes uve saved hard for a battleship or whateva, and yes u must face hat some day ur gona lose it, its part of the god damn game.
 
 See sense please people
 
 
 
 
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        |  Katya Detia
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.25 10:51:00 -
          [64] 
 ive had fights with corp one. i was ambushed on a gate by them. I started talking with one of them on a gate, he was pretty cool. People need to remember, this is a game!
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        |  ClarCE
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.25 10:58:00 -
          [65] 
 
  Quote: ive had fights with corp one. i was ambushed on a gate by them. I started talking with one of them on a gate, he was pretty cool. People need to remember, this is a game!
 
 
 Yeah its a game alright, lets do a little role play:
 
 Don't deal with corp 1, ever.
 
 /end roleplay.
 
 And I'm guessing the guy who camped you wasn't Swisher, you'd be wanting to leave the game after you experience the amount of smack I've seen that guy typing
  - all you have to do is take out one of their mining bs's, like Macarvid for instance, and then feel the full frontal of a tonne of smack, lol. 
 --'The Way is Shut'--
 
 
 
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        |  swisher
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.25 12:16:00 -
          [66] 
 Edited by: swisher on 25/03/2004 12:30:06
 
  Quote: 
  Quote: ive had fights with corp one. i was ambushed on a gate by them. I started talking with one of them on a gate, he was pretty cool. People need to remember, this is a game!
 
 
 Yeah its a game alright, lets do a little role play:
 
 Don't deal with corp 1, ever.
 
 /end roleplay.
 
 And I'm guessing the guy who camped you wasn't Swisher, you'd be wanting to leave the game after you experience the amount of smack I've seen that guy typing
  - all you have to do is take out one of their mining bs's, like Macarvid for instance, and then feel the full frontal of a tonne of smack, lol. 
 
 
 Well...it was me...I am a nice guy once in awhile..just depends on my mood..:)
 
 As far as are naps go ...are customers are always happy with the service we give them and protection while they are under contract.
 
 -swish
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        |  Nafri
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.25 12:28:00 -
          [67] 
 
  Quote: 
  Quote: ive had fights with corp one. i was ambushed on a gate by them. I started talking with one of them on a gate, he was pretty cool. People need to remember, this is a game!
 
 
 Yeah its a game alright, lets do a little role play:
 
 Don't deal with corp 1, ever.
 
 /end roleplay.
 
 And I'm guessing the guy who camped you wasn't Swisher, you'd be wanting to leave the game after you experience the amount of smack I've seen that guy typing
  - all you have to do is take out one of their mining bs's, like Macarvid for instance, and then feel the full frontal of a tonne of smack, lol. 
 
 
 well you cant talk about smack until you met Evo
 Wanna fly with me?
 
 
 
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        |  ClarCE
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.25 12:39:00 -
          [68] 
 
  Quote: 
 well you cant talk about smack until you met Evo
 
 
 
 Its that good, huh?
 
 --'The Way is Shut'--
 
 
 
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        |  FEvul
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.25 14:48:00 -
          [69] 
 ahhh a darkn3ss dude ;) long time no see, what ever happen to you guys ? I recall that you declared war on us and then you desided to chicken out and started a new corp called "darkn3ss corp"...
 
 well... kind off topic .. just had to
 
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        |  Sally
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.25 15:22:00 -
          [70] 
 Edited by: Sally on 25/03/2004 15:25:20
 
  Quote: Yeah its a game alright, lets do a little role play:
 
 Don't deal with corp 1, ever.
 
 /end roleplay.
 
 And I'm guessing the guy who camped you wasn't Swisher, you'd be wanting to leave the game after you experience the amount of smack I've seen that guy typing
  - all you have to do is take out one of their mining bs's, like Macarvid for instance, and then feel the full frontal of a tonne of smack, lol. 
 
 
 LOL!
 
 Go back under the stone you came from. And do it now please.
 
 You wasted one of our Battleships, yes. We declared war to you then for it and what did you do? Disbanded your old corp and made a new one.
 
 You have no authority to talk about Corp 1 on whatsoever, you have no balls to backup your in game actions in game.
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        |  Borg Fusion
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.25 15:31:00 -
          [71] 
 Edited by: Borg Fusion on 25/03/2004 15:38:48
 
  Quote: This whole thing seems to me like bad form on both sides.
 
 First of all, you have monarch agreeing to pay, but the people there weren't paid for, and would not answer.
 
 Second you have corp 1 who agreed to this deal, but stole a tempest.
 
 The solution would seem to be return the tempest, and for monarch to reimburse corp 1 for everyone who went down there. Corp 1 won't do this. I'd have to say that I'd think twice b4 trusting anything corp 1 said to me, and then think twice more.
 
 All of this is assuming you believe it is right for them to charge you to be there in the first place. Perhaps you should gather your forces and go in there guns blazing Monarch.
 
 I'm sure if you get a few of their battleships near to collapse that they will be more than happy to return the tempest, at that point it would be interesting to see whether you would let it go for just a tempest and a few million isk.
 
 
 Bah...Hmm off topic question for Adriana, have you ever played in earth and beyond before?
 
 Borg <out>
 
 Corpse Collection
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        |  Borg Fusion
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.25 15:32:00 -
          [72] 
 
  Quote: Corp 1 has been classified as CWAN crap without a nap. They will harbor corporate theives, break NAPs, ask for treaties they do not intend to honor, lie to entrap you, run and hide when the going gets tough.
 
 They mark it all up to role play because they are pirates. These mad dogs are foaming at the mouth and need to be put down.
 
 
 Lol...
 
 Borg <out>
 
 Corpse Collection
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        |  RALPH RODRIGUEZ
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.25 18:29:00 -
          [73] 
 DEADFLIP you think your a pirate !!!! you mine in 1.0 and just build bs don't you ? thats where i see you all day.
  
 " FROM THE HEAVENS CAME A BOOOOMING VOICE "
 
 
 
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        |  Heigh Suse
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.25 19:44:00 -
          [74] 
 Buncha E-peni waving around this thread.
 
 SAlly especially likes to tell everyone how cool HE is.
 
 
 
 Don't be hatin'
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        |  Sally
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.26 03:45:00 -
          [75] 
 
  Quote: Buncha E-peni waving around this thread.
 
 SAlly especially likes to tell everyone how cool HE is.
 
 
 I am cool. Very. Just wanted to say it to you too since you need my personal love too.
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        |  Monarch
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.26 04:00:00 -
          [76] 
 
  Quote: Yes uve saved hard for a battleship or whateva, and yes u must face hat some day ur gona lose it, its part of the god damn game.
 
 
 I've lost 5 battleships over this last week, once again it comes down to principle, we had an agreement and the terms were spelled out at length...
 
 
  Quote: [ 2004.03.17 00:21:00 ] Hatepants > we are not in the habit of setting standings until payment has been secured ..
 [ 2004.03.17 00:21:23 ] Monarch > my word is stronger than any battleship and will last longer than this game.
 [ 2004.03.17 00:21:45 ] Monarch > i assure you that you will recieve proper payment for every single member of uni that come down here.
 [ 2004.03.17 00:22:25 ] Hatepants > hmm
 [ 2004.03.17 00:22:31 ] WhiteMist > :) i would hope so or i git to have more fun :)
 [ 2004.03.17 00:23:07 ] WhiteMist > :)
 [ 2004.03.17 00:23:34 ] Hatepants > i suppose i can live with that for now
 [ 2004.03.17 00:23:38 ] Monarch > threats aren't needed.
 [ 2004.03.17 00:23:44 ] Monarch > but you will recieve payment.
 
 
 
 
  Quote: I was not refering to your issue, just that flip2-dude¦s pointless posts...
 
 FEvul, you admit that there is an issue that is at least partly your corps fault??
 
 still no reply from hatepants...
  
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        |  Sally
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.26 04:33:00 -
          [77] 
 
  Quote: 
  Quote: Yes uve saved hard for a battleship or whateva, and yes u must face hat some day ur gona lose it, its part of the god damn game.
 
 
 I've lost 5 battleships over this last week, once again it comes down to principle, we had an agreement and the terms were spelled out at length...
 
 
  Quote: [ 2004.03.17 00:21:00 ] Hatepants > we are not in the habit of setting standings until payment has been secured ..
 [ 2004.03.17 00:21:23 ] Monarch > my word is stronger than any battleship and will last longer than this game.
 [ 2004.03.17 00:21:45 ] Monarch > i assure you that you will recieve proper payment for every single member of uni that come down here.
 [ 2004.03.17 00:22:25 ] Hatepants > hmm
 [ 2004.03.17 00:22:31 ] WhiteMist > :) i would hope so or i git to have more fun :)
 [ 2004.03.17 00:23:07 ] WhiteMist > :)
 [ 2004.03.17 00:23:34 ] Hatepants > i suppose i can live with that for now
 [ 2004.03.17 00:23:38 ] Monarch > threats aren't needed.
 [ 2004.03.17 00:23:44 ] Monarch > but you will recieve payment.
 
 
 
 
  Quote: I was not refering to your issue, just that flip2-dude¦s pointless posts...
 
 FEvul, you admit that there is an issue that is at least partly your corps fault??
 
 still no reply from hatepants...
  
 
 Monarch, stop whining and stop being a forumbear please.
 
 We didn't make a mistake, you did by starting wild assumptions. Negotiate, pay in advance and you will be fine. By the time your people have been asked in local what the mining party is about and by the time no one responded you forced us to act.
 
 Furthermore "for now" is temporary and WhiteMist was clearly stating his intentions.
 
 Train up your negotiation skills and then you won't need any more whinage here.
 
 Or just keep whining, we are getting used to it and soon the forums will be full of people like you.
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        |  FEvul
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.26 08:31:00 -
          [78] 
 
  Quote: FEvul, you admit that there is an issue that is at least partly your corps fault??
 
 I think it have been some missunderstandings here yes... but since I wasn¦t there I wont take any part of it, I¦m neutral in this issue, eitherway you wont get your BS back, I can almost promise you that, you might be right on some things and might be wrong on others ... but the word 'trust' wont come in handy when you start playing eve-online.
 
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        |  ClarCE
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.26 09:06:00 -
          [79] 
 
  Quote: ahhh a darkn3ss dude ;) long time no see, what ever happen to you guys ? I recall that you declared war on us and then you desided to chicken out and started a new corp called "darkn3ss corp"...
 
 well... kind off topic .. just had to
 
 
 Well, it was you that declared on us, but we didnt want a war, simple as that.
 
 --'The Way is Shut'--
 
 
 
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        |  ClarCE
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.26 09:07:00 -
          [80] 
 
  Quote: Edited by: Sally on 25/03/2004 15:25:20
 
  Quote: Yeah its a game alright, lets do a little role play:
 
 Don't deal with corp 1, ever.
 
 /end roleplay.
 
 And I'm guessing the guy who camped you wasn't Swisher, you'd be wanting to leave the game after you experience the amount of smack I've seen that guy typing
  - all you have to do is take out one of their mining bs's, like Macarvid for instance, and then feel the full frontal of a tonne of smack, lol. 
 
 
 LOL!
 
 Go back under the stone you came from. And do it now please.
 
 You wasted one of our Battleships, yes. We declared war to you then for it and what did you do? Disbanded your old corp and made a new one.
 
 You have no authority to talk about Corp 1 on whatsoever, you have no balls to backup your in game actions in game.
 
 
 I have every right to comment, thanks.
 
 Game, Set and Match.
 
 --'The Way is Shut'--
 
 
 
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        |  swisher
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.26 12:04:00 -
          [81] 
 ClarCE=coward...Fact
 
 -swish
 
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        |  ClarCE
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.26 12:06:00 -
          [82] 
 
  Quote: ClarCE=coward...Fact
 
 -swish
 
 
 LOL.
 
 Game, Set and Match.
  
 --'The Way is Shut'--
 
 
 
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        |  FEvul
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.26 13:13:00 -
          [83] 
 
  Quote: Well, it was you that declared on us, but we didnt want a war, simple as that.
 
 sry my fault, I never did see any of you .. I just heard that you was ****ed for some reason... well enough of that
 
 Game set match !
 
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        |  FEvul
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.26 13:15:00 -
          [84] 
 quoting myself...
 
  Quote: ****ed
 
 hmm damn "BadWordFilter" that should be don't bypass the swear filter please nothing else...
 
 Edited by Zhuge Liang
 
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        |  ClarCE
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.26 13:49:00 -
          [85] 
 
  Quote: 
 Game set match!
 
 
 
 Lol, I love that saying, when I was at school (too long ago now), my geography teacher used to say it when we argued with him, he always won, and then said 'Game, Set and Match', In his semi-northern accent.
 
 Long shot - Anyone here know Mr Metcalfe from St Barts School, Newbury?
 
 --'The Way is Shut'--
 
 
 
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        |  Monarch
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.26 21:10:00 -
          [86] 
 
  Quote: Monarch, stop whining and stop being a forumbear please.
 
 We didn't make a mistake, you did by starting wild assumptions. Negotiate, pay in advance and you will be fine. By the time your people have been asked in local what the mining party is about and by the time no one responded you forced us to act.
 
 Furthermore "for now" is temporary and WhiteMist was clearly stating his intentions.
 
 Train up your negotiation skills and then you won't need any more whinage here.
 
 Or just keep whining, we are getting used to it and soon the forums will be full of people like you.
 
 
 sally, could you please inform me what the wild assumptions were?? if you look at the log, hatepants said your corp wasn't used to doing business that way but would agree. i would also like to see some chat logs from the local since you guys keep insisting that money was demanded and denied etc. i have already informed you why they didn't know about the 1m that was to be paid...
 and should the term 'for now' only mean 12 hours?? not even a whole day and wait for me to log on and see if payment was going to be rendered??
 
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        |  Sokhar
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.26 23:32:00 -
          [87] 
 Aren't you supposed to be anti-pirate monarch... secret proof you really are a pirate Ľ_Ľ
 
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        |  Monarch
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.27 11:31:00 -
          [88] 
 
  Quote: Aren't you supposed to be anti-pirate monarch... secret proof you really are a pirate Ľ_Ľ
 
 
 that's like saying people that pay the mafia are actually in the mafia...
 
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        |  Left
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.28 00:33:00 -
          [89] 
 ... Sigh
 
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        |  Sokhar
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.28 01:22:00 -
          [90] 
 Monarch don't be a scrub, your comment made no sense Ľ_Ľ
 
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        |  Dist Ikazawa
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.28 02:18:00 -
          [91] 
 I see nothing wrong with what corp 1 did. Monarch you agreed that there would be payment for your people, yet at the time they was in the agreed area where you talked about, there was no payment for any1 but yourself. tbh there is no problem here, payment should be made BEFORE hand so that ppl cant mine or whatever and just run off without paying. Futhermore, no1 responded to corp 1's messages about payment, and not responding is as good as denying payment altogether.
 
 Eve online is PvP, you all new the risks when you signed up, Corp 1 didnt have to trust you in the first place but they did, but never recived payment for any1 but you so they did what they did, if you dont like that, stay away from zones where people PvP often.
 
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        |  Sally
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.28 03:28:00 -
          [92] 
 
  Quote: I see nothing wrong with what corp 1 did. Monarch you agreed that there would be payment for your people, yet at the time they was in the agreed area where you talked about, there was no payment for any1 but yourself. tbh there is no problem here, payment should be made BEFORE hand so that ppl cant mine or whatever and just run off without paying. Futhermore, no1 responded to corp 1's messages about payment, and not responding is as good as denying payment altogether.
 
 Eve online is PvP, you all new the risks when you signed up, Corp 1 didnt have to trust you in the first place but they did, but never recived payment for any1 but you so they did what they did, if you dont like that, stay away from zones where people PvP often.
 
 
 Exactly!
 
 One of us once even paid a battleship pilot in advance to make him eject from his ship (stupid move IMHO, but anyway
  ). We a trustworthy, nice people who keep our word and everyone in Corp 1 who breaks it or leaves on bad terms is going to be spanked by us nicely. --
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        |  Berit
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.28 12:38:00 -
          [93] 
 tnx Katya Detia!
 
 
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        |  Monarch
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.28 21:56:00 -
          [94] 
 
  Quote: We a trustworthy, nice people who keep our word and everyone in Corp 1 who breaks it or leaves on bad terms is going to be spanked by us nicely.
 
 
 even if corp 1 wanted payment for the bs the very next day, shouldn't they at least wait for the person they were in contact with for payment??
 
 
  Quote: [ 2004.03.17 00:20:24 ] Monarch > is it possible to just put all of UNI on the list and then i can give you my word that you will recieve isk for every person that comes down here??
 ...
 [ 2004.03.17 00:23:34 ] Hatepants > i suppose i can live with that for now
 
 
 this is EXACTLY why the people didn't know that they had to pay...
 
 
  Quote: [ 2004.03.17 00:29:11 ] Hatepants > this is a bit below our normal rates as well so i would appreciate it if u keep it amongst yourselves
 
 
 UNI, nor myself did anything to break the contract, it is spelled out that they will recieve payment after the number of pilots that are going to come down are confirmed. hatepants from corp 1 was ok with that, he didn't want anyone to know how low the rate was either, so i didn't let the UNI guys know, again sticking to my word. it's obvious that whitemist was just hungry for battle and chose an opportunity for and easy target... 5 vs 1, anyone is easy...
 
 again, i ask for chat logs that prove that they were not willing to pay etc... i know for a fact the exact opposite is true, THATS why no chat logs of local have been posted.
 
 
 
 
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        |  Eccentrica Gallumbits
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.29 00:18:00 -
          [95] 
 Fully agree with you Monarch. The way that corp 1 has treated you here is disgusting. It smells of a corp that has no real organisation, and is now trying to 'spin-doctor' the events to make themselves blameless. I also note that an obvious fake thread was started to try and make corp1 look like the good guys. Well, i aint buying.
 
 Monarch, if it smells like a turd, and looks like a turd, then it probably is a turd.
 
 Corp1, heh, nuff said
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        |  Rerir
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.03.29 01:19:00 -
          [96] 
 
  Quote: I see nothing wrong with what corp 1 did. Monarch you agreed that there would be payment for your people, yet at the time they was in the agreed area where you talked about, there was no payment for any1 but yourself. tbh there is no problem here, payment should be made BEFORE hand so that ppl cant mine or whatever and just run off without paying. Futhermore, no1 responded to corp 1's messages about payment, and not responding is as good as denying payment altogether.
 
 Eve online is PvP, you all new the risks when you signed up, Corp 1 didnt have to trust you in the first place but they did, but never recived payment for any1 but you so they did what they did, if you dont like that, stay away from zones where people PvP often.
 
 
 Totally agree.
 
 Also instead of b*tching on the forums, you should pod the guy that ejected from his ship.
  
 
 
 
 Rerir, deadduck1
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        |  Monarch
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.04.21 11:37:00 -
          [97] 
 luckily for you all i didn't save the chat of local for some reason, i assure you i was goading swisher of corp 1 to come out and fight me so i could take part of what was taken away from me...
 
 of course it wasn't over...
 
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 Channelname: swisher conversation
 Listener: Monarch
 Session started: 2004.04.20 22:36:12
 
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 [ 2004.04.20 22:36:20 ] swisher > ok
 [ 2004.04.20 22:36:34 ] Monarch > thank you for one ship back.
 [ 2004.04.20 22:43:33 ] swisher > sup
 [ 2004.04.20 22:43:43 ] Monarch > hello.
 [ 2004.04.20 22:43:51 ] swisher > enjoy it
 [ 2004.04.20 22:43:59 ] Monarch > you and i are even. if you try to back stab me, i will hunt you.
 [ 2004.04.20 22:44:11 ] swisher > rofl
 [ 2004.04.20 22:44:25 ] swisher > you think I'm afraid of you man...I didnt have **** of a setup using all basic ****
 [ 2004.04.20 22:44:32 ] Monarch > i know, i saw.
 [ 2004.04.20 22:44:41 ] Monarch > i did get your loot can.
 [ 2004.04.20 22:44:47 ] Monarch > and your corpse.
 [ 2004.04.20 22:44:58 ] swisher > I did have the ballz to fight you in your ****ig level 2 bs setup for pvping
 [ 2004.04.20 22:45:14 ] Monarch > stfu, you were setup for jamming.
 [ 2004.04.20 22:45:21 ] Monarch > you tried but i outlasted your cap.
 [ 2004.04.20 22:45:24 ] swisher > npc setup
 [ 2004.04.20 22:45:29 ] swisher > I jam npcing up there
 [ 2004.04.20 22:45:40 ] Monarch > 4 multispecs??
 [ 2004.04.20 22:45:48 ] swisher > 5
 [ 2004.04.20 22:45:58 ] Monarch > yeah, that's pvp dude, unless you're using 5, in which case woulda hurt you here because i didn't have eccm on anyways
 [ 2004.04.20 22:46:07 ] Monarch > ok, 5, wasted cap on your part
 [ 2004.04.20 22:46:21 ] swisher > yeah its fine for npcing
 [ 2004.04.20 22:46:34 ] Monarch > only need 4 for npc.
 [ 2004.04.20 22:47:24 ] swisher > how many 1400 did you get ?
 [ 2004.04.20 22:47:37 ] Monarch > 0 :/
 [ 2004.04.20 22:47:37 ] swisher > 2?[ 2004.04.20 22:47:41 ] Monarch > i could use them too.
 [ 2004.04.20 22:48:05 ] swisher > man I had my pvp setup there yesterday also..but came back to unload ****
 [ 2004.04.20 22:48:27 ] Monarch > if you have hard feelings, you need to let me know. if you want to fight still, that's fine with me.
 [ 2004.04.20 22:49:29 ] swisher > well...note I didnt have my pvp setup..and like I had said you where going to do flame about it in local...I knew what was going to happen before I step out...but that the way it goes
 [ 2004.04.20 22:49:46 ] swisher > would like my corpse back though and we will not have any hard feelings
 [ 2004.04.20 22:49:50 ] Monarch > why did you accept then??
 [ 2004.04.20 22:50:04 ] Monarch > no, i'm keeping the corpse, i'd like my tempest back and we will not have any hard feelings
 [ 2004.04.20 22:50:29 ] swisher > its a pirate thing.....even if I'm going to die...better givei t all I have
 [ 2004.04.20 22:50:36 ] swisher > rofl
 [ 2004.04.20 22:51:04 ] swisher > ok...that is fine then ..still dont know what you all up about that fukcing tempest when I wastn even in on the deal bro
 [ 2004.04.20 22:51:58 ] Monarch > i will post it on the forums and it'll be brought to the front...
 [ 2004.04.20 22:52:08 ] Monarch > crime and punishment, read it there...
 [ 2004.04.20 22:52:33 ] swisher > rofl
 [ 2004.04.20 22:52:52 ] swisher > thought you would do that...what a *****...you do know it isnt going to stop here now
 [ 2004.04.20 22:53:05 ] Monarch > why is that??
 [ 2004.04.20 22:53:10 ] swisher > if you ever join a legit corp I will rip them off and take there assets
 [ 2004.04.20 22:53:40 ] swisher > because I basicly gave you that..."win" you where in a level 2 bs and I was in a level 1 with npc setup...do the math
 [ 2004.04.20 22:54:07 ] swisher > now you going to act like 'make" it look like it was some big thing...when it wasnt
 [ 2004.04.20 22:54:23 ] swisher > just something that ...was done out of boredom
 [ 2004.04.20 23:00:24 ] Monarch > then why did it take you so long to fight?? and why were you so worried about it??
 [ 2004.04.20 23:00:46 ] Monarch > and a scorp jamming a tempest, is the only way to pvp...
 [ 2004.04.20 23:01:02 ] swisher > well at first I was...not I am very tired atm...then I was just like what the hell
 [ 2004.04.20 23:03:04 ] swisher > I have over 800m isk in my wallet so wasnt worried about the ship
 [ 2004.04.20 23:03:39 ] Monarch > 2004.04.20 22:41:00
 For your termination of swisher we have paid you the bounty that was set to his head: 6,505,000 ISK
 [ 2004.04.20 23:03:44 ] Monarch > i appreciate the tip.
 [ 2004.04.20 23:03:53 ] Monarch > why steal a bs if you are so wealthy??
 [ 2004.04.20 23:04:04 ] swisher > ?
 [ 2004.04.20 23:04:10 ] swisher > who said I would steal it
 [ 2004.04.20 23:04:18 ] swisher > I already have one atm
 [ 2004.04.20 23:04:28 ] swisher > just getting new weapons etc
 
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        |  Monarch
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.04.21 11:37:00 -
          [98] 
 [ 2004.04.20 23:04:31 ] Monarch > you just said you'd rip off my corp... AND your corp stole a bs.
 [ 2004.04.20 23:05:10 ] swisher > well that was the people who had your ganked at the time they ganked your bs...for money basicly
 [ 2004.04.20 23:05:53 ] Monarch > it wasn't me, it was a friend. but it was my ship.
 [ 2004.04.20 23:07:12 ] swisher > ic
 [ 2004.04.20 23:07:33 ] swisher > well **** happens man...my mistake for fighting you your tacticed worked
 [ 2004.04.20 23:07:50 ] swisher > I saw it coming but what can you say...but ******
 [ 2004.04.20 23:08:01 ] Monarch > which tactic is that??
 [ 2004.04.20 23:08:04 ] Monarch > fof??
 [ 2004.04.20 23:08:10 ] swisher > rofl
 [ 2004.04.20 23:09:14 ] swisher > no...knowing I wouldnt have a pvp setup etc...but it doesn matter you get to go around now saying **** about a battle that we both know was pretty uneven ...in setups...due to the random time and place of the battle
 [ 2004.04.20 23:09:52 ] Monarch > you had 5 multis on, wtfelse would you have?? a tank?? you can't tank a scorp well enough...
 [ 2004.04.20 23:10:15 ] swisher > I didnt have any **** there man
 [ 2004.04.20 23:10:20 ] swisher > my station is ****ign 20 jumps away
 [ 2004.04.20 23:11:17 ] Monarch > not like i haven't ben challenging you for the lst 3 days straight
 [ 2004.04.20 23:11:36 ] Monarch > so tell me, what would your ideal setup be if it doesnt' include 5 multis
 [ 2004.04.20 23:12:12 ] swisher > rofl
 [ 2004.04.20 23:12:26 ] swisher > well jamming is only used in support fleets
 [ 2004.04.20 23:12:30 ] swisher > most of the time
 [ 2004.04.20 23:13:29 ] Monarch > so... you woldn't jama tempst if you were to pvp with it??
 [ 2004.04.20 23:13:49 ] swisher > not if I was going 1 vs 1 I wouldnt had
 [ 2004.04.20 23:13:58 ] swisher > would had done it totally different
 [ 2004.04.20 23:14:27 ] swisher > would had been better tanked had warp stabs which if you noticed I had none ...(npc) setup again
 [ 2004.04.20 23:14:48 ] swisher > but **** happens man...you got lucky...I ****** up
 [ 2004.04.20 23:14:49 ] Monarch > you woulda ran if i didn't warp scramble you...
 [ 2004.04.20 23:15:00 ] swisher > nah
 [ 2004.04.20 23:15:07 ] Monarch > then why the convo??
 [ 2004.04.20 23:15:08 ] swisher > I dont run
 [ 2004.04.20 23:15:22 ] swisher > was going to pay you
 [ 2004.04.20 23:15:28 ] Monarch > you kept your word to 13 also, you didn't kill me.
 [ 2004.04.20 23:15:46 ] swisher > to be honest...was up there to npc ...thus NO PVP setup was there..that was what I was doign int eh first place
 [ 2004.04.20 23:15:50 ] Monarch > couldn't pay enough... unless it was enough to buy the bs back that your corp stole
 [ 2004.04.20 23:16:13 ] swisher > rofl...why would I be held responsable?
 [ 2004.04.20 23:16:26 ] Monarch > your corp. all will be held responsibile
 [ 2004.04.20 23:16:54 ] swisher > while you hide in a noob corp?
 [ 2004.04.20 23:19:28 ] Monarch > i choose to be here
 [ 2004.04.20 23:19:39 ] swisher > ...
 [ 2004.04.20 23:20:16 ] swisher > well listen...Monarch I'm coming back up there....to npc again...now I dont really want to hear you ***** about **** ...so are we cool
 [ 2004.04.20 23:21:15 ] Monarch > if you give me your word that you will not attack or backstab, i will allow you to join npc gangs
 [ 2004.04.20 23:22:45 ] swisher > wtf..we go on different times man
 [ 2004.04.20 23:22:53 ] swisher > and I havent ever killed anyone up there yet
 [ 2004.04.20 23:22:59 ] Monarch > then i will attack you again if i see you.
 [ 2004.04.20 23:23:00 ] swisher > well anyone in a gang that is
 [ 2004.04.20 23:23:16 ] Monarch > bring your pvp setup this time
 [ 2004.04.20 23:23:37 ] swisher > umm...well now you bring that up I'm only 5 jumps out. good one lol
 [ 2004.04.20 23:23:49 ] swisher > but listen monarch why do you think I'll backstab you?
 [ 2004.04.20 23:24:08 ] Monarch > if you refuse to give me your word, then we have no deal. and now tht you question it, it doesn't matter.
 [ 2004.04.20 23:24:29 ] Monarch > your corp has ripped me off once, i refuse to let it happen again.
 [ 2004.04.20 23:24:31 ] swisher > I give you my word I'll not attack you in miroitem
 [ 2004.04.20 23:24:33 ] swisher > how is that
 [ 2004.04.20 23:24:41 ] Monarch > or your corp??
 [ 2004.04.20 23:25:02 ] swisher > only in miroitem
 [ 2004.04.20 23:25:14 ] Monarch > i think i'll decline that offer.
 [ 2004.04.20 23:25:24 ] Monarch > thanks for the chance though.
 [ 2004.04.20 23:25:28 ] Monarch > good day to you sir.
 
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        |  Monarch
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.04.21 11:47:00 -
          [99] 
 i wish i did have the local chat... there was chatter of swisher wanting his corpse back, so i told im i could sell it back, or even better trade back... he seemed like it was a good idea, i told him i wanted my temepest back and the local was filled with obscenities from swisher, even though he seemed to be level headed, the local chat showed something completely different...
 if anyone has the local saved, i would appreciate a copy posted here...
 
 my favorite part of the chat log and a great quote from swisher...
 
  Quote: [ 2004.04.20 23:14:49 ] Monarch > you woulda ran if i didn't warp scramble you...
 [ 2004.04.20 23:15:00 ] swisher > nah
 [ 2004.04.20 23:15:07 ] Monarch > then why the convo??
 [ 2004.04.20 23:15:08 ] swisher > I dont run
 [ 2004.04.20 23:15:22 ] swisher > was going to pay you
 [ 2004.04.20 23:15:28 ] Monarch > you kept your word to 13 also, you didn't kill me.
 [ 2004.04.20 23:15:46 ] swisher > to be honest...was up there to npc ...thus NO PVP setup was there..that was what I was doign int eh first place
 [ 2004.04.20 23:15:50 ] Monarch > couldn't pay enough... unless it was enough to buy the bs back that your corp stole
 
 
 
 
 
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        |  swisher
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.04.21 13:06:00 -
          [100] 
 Monarch..
 We all take the good with the bad...Personally the fight was uneven but neitherless I lost my scorp and wow...my bounty...get over it..its old news...and aleast bud..I fight and am in a corp...and I dont hide behind a Noob corp...such like you do...
 
 Monarch...Time for honoring yourself will soon be at a end.
 
 
 -swish
 
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        |  The End
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.04.21 13:40:00 -
          [101] 
 
  Originally by: swisher Monarch..
 We all take the good with the bad...Personally the fight was uneven but neitherless I lost my scorp and wow...my bounty...get over it..its old news...and aleast bud..I fight and am in a corp...and I dont hide behind a Noob corp...such like you do...
 
 Monarch...Time for honoring yourself will soon be at a end.
 
 
 -swish
 
 
 
 ok for one your corp started this whole thing. he didnt go asking for trouble. but that is what you gave him.
 
 you say since he isnt in a corp he is a coward? Why you want him in a corp so your friends can help you with the job you cant do yourself?
 
 I was in local he told you that he wanted a 1 v 1. And you kept talking soooo much smack that you would kill him and you didnt want too you wasted an hour of blah blah blah. even the other people in local were getting a bit frustrated with you.
 
 at least eventually you fought him. and after you got owned. you come back in local
 
 And all the people in local agreed that you are the biggest whiner we have seen is such a long time. all that cursing you were doing towards monarch. it made us laugh.
 
 You act as if you dont care yet you spent 30 minutes in local crying like a baby.
 
 Simple fact. you 1v1'ed him and got beat. be a man about it
 
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        |  Frakri Hogsto
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.04.21 13:43:00 -
          [102] 
 Now then.......I'm not sure if i read this right, but did someone mention NPC hunting using multi specs
  
 Also i fail to see how this fight was unfair, and THE ONLY way to effectivley fight a tempest 1 on 1 in a scorp is to jam. You try to tank that thing and see how long you last (That point of veiw is based on personal experience) Please don't hesitate to reply if you feel i'm wrong.
 
 At the end of the day, a corp 1 guy engaged in a 1 on 1 and got his ass kicked, lets just leave it that and quit with the **** "awww i wasn't setup for pvp"
 "ohhh, it was an unfair fight"
 
 If you wern't setup for pvp then you shouldn't have fought him, end of story. You fought.....you lost.....you died. PERIOD
 
 
 
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        |  swisher
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.04.21 14:15:00 -
          [103] 
 
  Originally by: The End 
  Originally by: swisher Monarch..
 We all take the good with the bad...Personally the fight was uneven but neitherless I lost my scorp and wow...my bounty...get over it..its old news...and aleast bud..I fight and am in a corp...and I dont hide behind a Noob corp...such like you do...
 
 Monarch...Time for honoring yourself will soon be at a end.
 
 
 -swish
 
 
 
 ok for one your corp started this whole thing. he didnt go asking for trouble. but that is what you gave him.
 
 you say since he isnt in a corp he is a coward? Why you want him in a corp so your friends can help you with the job you cant do yourself?
 
 I was in local he told you that he wanted a 1 v 1. And you kept talking soooo much smack that you would kill him and you didnt want too you wasted an hour of blah blah blah. even the other people in local were getting a bit frustrated with you.
 
 at least eventually you fought him. and after you got owned. you come back in local
 
 And all the people in local agreed that you are the biggest whiner we have seen is such a long time. all that cursing you were doing towards monarch. it made us laugh.
 
 You act as if you dont care yet you spent 30 minutes in local crying like a baby.
 
 Simple fact. you 1v1'ed him and got beat. be a man about it
 
 
 
 
 TheEnd,
 If you remember correctly..Monarch ..the whole time I have been there has been nagging about how he lost a bs and had his friend eject from his bs..by corp 1... He then challenged me to a duel ..being in a worked up state..accepted..without really thinking..thus was my downfall..but no big deal..even the best players die one time or another...ex"Tank CEO" and others... but as you can plainly see Monarch is trying to milk all this as much as he can...There is no wrong in losing a ship or being podded (note only my 3rd time to be done to me) but its what you do after that...that makes the difference. I made some mistakes...I have learned from them and it will not happen again. That is one thing as a pirate you always will do..ist to always learn..
 
 As far as Monarch goes..as I said before...saddly he will only have this to go off of in his sad..belly life in eve..he is a man that hides in noob corps to not be able to be attacked or gone after by other corps...he stays in empire and lacks the spirit to go beyond his fears.
 
 -swish
 
 Once again..Monarch the time for honoring yourself will soon be at a end. Enjoy it all while you can...
 
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        |  FEvul
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.04.21 16:22:00 -
          [104] 
 WTF are you still babbeling about this ??? geez get over it
 
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        |  Frakri Hogsto
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.04.21 20:04:00 -
          [105] 
 Monarch does not hide within no0b corps for the reasons you described.
 
 I for one have tried to recruit monarch on various ocasions, and i reckon he will back me up on this.....each time i get the same response, and i admire him for his reasons.
 
 Monarch choses not to be in a corp through choice, and here i will try to enlighten you to his reasons: (Hope you don't mind monarch
  ) 
 1) Joining a corp, means going along with the corp decisions whether you deem them to be right or wrong. You either go ahead with it against your judgment, or leave and upset people.
 
 2)Corps are often dragged into personal disagreements like "you killed me, now my whole corp is after you/your corp" and the same both ways, if you want to go after someone, your corp may get involved in a good way or bad
 
 3) Naps do not stand with monarch, you **** him off, he'll hunt you down, no matter who you are, what corp your from, or how many people are in your corp.
 
 4) He doesn't feel the need to be in a corp getting dragged into wars that do not concern him!
 
 I would also like to say that monarch ranks highly in my most respected players in eve. He's honest and to the point, and he's damn hard to kill 1 on 1, trust me i've tried it before in the past
  
 He doesn't have to be in a corp to enjoy eve. I do think he would probably have more fun if he was in a corp though
  but he's only gonna do what he feels is right, and for someone to go solo for this long and continue to be in a bs opretty much everytime you see him......He must be doing something right. and stop with the flames everyone, he's a one man band, he don't post that often on the forums, and when he does he gets a load of ****. Let him have his moment  
 On that note i'll stfu, but please show a little respect, were not all 12 years old, trying to slam each other for everything we say, were just informing the eve population the best way we can
 
 
 
 
 
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        |  RichThugster
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.04.21 22:19:00 -
          [106] 
 ffs monarch, when will u stop being so n00bish as to post long ass conversations on the eve-online site, id swear enough ppl flame u everytime to discourage u, but NO. barely anyone has time to read all tht ****, unless they know it is good. the ViceRoy thing, many have read cus it is excellent and readable from the outset. urs is just boring, for heavens sake can u not sum things up, and offer the chat log as a link for anyone who wants it.
 
 for the record the last time i saw monarch do this he was biatching cus one of my corp members, stole some drones from his mate, then his mate stole something, so they traded back, and monarch wanted 10mil for the distress suffered by his mate
  and rather than a simple telling us about it, he pasted the whole chatlog on here, nobody else wanted/needed to know. 
 /me gets off his soapbox
 
 Thugster
 
 Drugs are bad.
 Don't mess with weed
 Don't mess with mushrooms
 Don't mess with LSD
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        |  C4w3
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.04.21 22:34:00 -
          [107] 
 "Out there, we've walked quite friendly up to Death,-
 Sat down and eaten with him, cool and bland,-
 Pardoned his spilling mess-tins in our hand.
 We've sniffed the green thick odour of his breath,-
 Our eyes wept, but our courage didn't writhe.
 He's spat at us with bullets and he's coughed
 Shrapnel. We chorussed when he sang aloft,
 We whistled while he shaved us with his scythe.
 
 
 Oh, Death was never enemy of ours!
 We laughed at him, we leagued with him, old chum.
 No soldier's paid to kick against His powers.
 We laughed, -knowing that better men would come,
 And greater wars: when each proud fighter brags
 He wars on Death, for lives; not men, for flags".
 
 
 "We fear no man living or dead, we stand our ground fight and die, and we will be praised".
 
 "Monarch WE DO NOT EJECT OUR SHIPS..... ROFL ....."
 
 Cry me a river.
 
 Sincearly C4w3 CEO Corp 1.
 
 
    
 "If all the heroes are standing together around a strange device and begin to taunt me, I will pull out a conventional one.
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        |  The End
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.04.21 23:07:00 -
          [108] 
 
  Originally by: RichThugster ffs monarch, when will u stop being so n00bish as to post long ass conversations on the eve-online site, id swear enough ppl flame u everytime to discourage u, but NO. barely anyone has time to read all tht ****, unless they know it is good. the ViceRoy thing, many have read cus it is excellent and readable from the outset. urs is just boring, for heavens sake can u not sum things up, and offer the chat log as a link for anyone who wants it.
 
 for the record the last time i saw monarch do this he was biatching cus one of my corp members, stole some drones from his mate, then his mate stole something, so they traded back, and monarch wanted 10mil for the distress suffered by his mate
  and rather than a simple telling us about it, he pasted the whole chatlog on here, nobody else wanted/needed to know. 
 /me gets off his soapbox
 
 Thugster
 
 
 If you dont care or its too long for you then dont read it. simple. he is simply telling a story of what happened to him, he isnt forcing you to read it. you choose too.
 
 
 Also one a side note wasnt it your corp who was in a dominix and 2 bb's and didnt want to fight monarch 3 v 1 in a tempest
 
 kthx bye
 
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        |  RichThugster
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.04.22 00:21:00 -
          [109] 
 as another side note, yeah it was 1 dom and 2 BB's who didn't want to fight 2 tempests and some other cruiser, plus we also knew that monarch had other friends in the system, who were probably there as an ambush. perhaps we were wimps, perhaps we were smart
  
 and i complain cus he is wasting bandwidth that could be used to upload new movies for me to dl. and tht rona corp one - wht a waste of time (i'm thinking rona was the non-combat one which was just a trailer to join)
 /me is very "anal"
 
 ps use a proper dictionary when looking up "anal" and bear in mind the fact tht i am usually pretty organised
 
 Thugster
 
 Drugs are bad.
 Don't mess with weed
 Don't mess with mushrooms
 Don't mess with LSD
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        |  The End
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.04.22 02:11:00 -
          [110] 
 
  Originally by: RichThugster as another side note, yeah it was 1 dom and 2 BB's who didn't want to fight 2 tempests and some other cruiser, plus we also knew that monarch had other friends in the system, who were probably there as an ambush. perhaps we were wimps, perhaps we were smart
  
 and i complain cus he is wasting bandwidth that could be used to upload new movies for me to dl. and tht rona corp one - wht a waste of time (i'm thinking rona was the non-combat one which was just a trailer to join)
 /me is very "anal"
 
 ps use a proper dictionary when looking up "anal" and bear in mind the fact tht i am usually pretty organised
 
 Thugster
 
 
 
 oh now your adding ships to the situation?
 
 
 It was just Monarch..
 
 You Wimped out on a 3 v 1. plain and simple
 
 good day sir
 
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        |  Vigo Barboza
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.04.22 09:20:00 -
          [111] 
 6 pages of crap - who cares ?
 Recruitment
 
 
 
 
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        |  RichThugster
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.04.22 09:25:00 -
          [112] 
 Edited by: RichThugster on 22/04/2004 09:27:30
 were u even there? i didn't think so. your trusting the word of monarch, perhaps he is a man of honour, that got the story a lil wrong, perhaps he is a bullsh*ting moron, perhaps u got the story wrong?
 
 there is actually proof, someone who was in the system "macknife" was willing to fight with monarch and i am 90% sure he had a tempest
  since then we have become friendly with him. if i need to eve-mail him in game to get him to come on here and proove u wrong i will. and even it was just the two tempests, V 1dom and 2 BB's the lack of experience on our side was a massive factor. the pilot of the dom, had simple got it through mining and knew, little to nothing of pvp. the two BB's had been doing n00b pirate work (that is new to pirating, not new to the game, - incase ur struggling to keep up  ) we had taken on our first cruiser the day before, and were still very new to the capabilites of the BB, and i think i was still using heavy missiles, and the other could use torps. And also i can't speak to well for the others, but i certainly did not feel confident about it, as i had never even fought a BS. NOW tell me, were we wimps? i'll stick by my statement of no. And Now, factor in that monarch had another mate on top, who was mouthing off in local, monarch had been playing 9 months - a good 7months more than the two BB pilots at tht time, and probably had more friends not too far away.
 
 After me putting all this stuff in, u still do not believe that we made the right decision, then u truely are not worth the effort.
 
 Thanks
 Thugster
 
 EDIT: a typo
 
 Drugs are bad.
 Don't mess with weed
 Don't mess with mushrooms
 Don't mess with LSD
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        |  Monarch
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.04.22 10:54:00 -
          [113] 
 
  Quote: were u even there? i didn't think so. your trusting the word of monarch, perhaps he is a man of honour, that got the story a lil wrong, perhaps he is a bullsh*ting moron, perhaps u got the story wrong?
 
 there is actually proof, someone who was in the system "macknife" was willing to fight with monarch and i am 90% sure he had a tempest since then we have become friendly with him. if i need to eve-mail him in game to get him to come on here and proove u wrong i will. and even it was just the two tempests, V 1dom and 2 BB's the lack of experience on our side was a massive factor.
 
 
 dude... read the chat logs from the post about you, and in there it clearly states that mack knife wasn't with me...
 this thread isnt' about you, it's about how corp 1 reneged and is just beginning to get a taste of what is to come...
  
 
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        |  swisher
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.04.22 11:46:00 -
          [114] 
 Edited by: swisher on 22/04/2004 11:54:54
 Monarch...I'll remind you once again
 
 Time for honoring yourself will soon be at a end
 
 I will not discuss this matter any more..for thus the forums is all you have to try to make yourself something that your not...only a low belly..player that wishs to stay in empire .4 and above. We will see you soon...I would say bring your corp..but then again..you dont have one...only your noob friends.
 
 Thus I'll leave it at that.
 
 -swish
 
 P.s..becareful what you wish for...
 
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        |  C4w3
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.04.22 13:49:00 -
          [115] 
 Well Mr Monarch
 
 Easily put "End yourself"
 
 
  
 "If all the heroes are standing together around a strange device and begin to taunt me, I will pull out a conventional one.
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        |  Dezzyb0y
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.04.22 13:52:00 -
          [116] 
 Wow is this a competition to see how long we can get this topic? We already decided that monarch only paid for him self(shows what a good corp mate he is) and if he wanted anything else he'd have to pay...
 
 
 Next please...
 
 
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 K4rls 1400mm Howitzer Artillery I perfectly strikes Republic Fleet Testing Facilities, wrecking for 1395.9 damage
 
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        |  Bellicose
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.04.22 14:27:00 -
          [117] 
 
  Originally by: Jaseara Not another long boring post from you. Thanks for the warning about Corp1. But a few lines would've sufficed.
 
 
 i second that
 Who needs a shovel when you have a nice big cannon?
 
 KittenArmy
 capn' crimson
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        |  Borg Fusion
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.04.22 17:36:00 -
          [118] 
 *yawns.....Looks over to the time and says, when is this soap opera going to end?....
 
 Corpse Collection
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        |  Nafri
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.04.22 19:44:00 -
          [119] 
 
  Originally by: Borg Fusion *yawns.....Looks over to the time and says, when is this soap opera going to end?....
 
 
 
 <--- waiting for the chapter 2 of "Monarch and the Corp1 Crew - Who made Sally pregnant?"
 Wanna fly with me?
 
 
 
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        |  Borg Fusion
 
 
       | Posted - 2004.04.22 19:56:00 -
          [120] 
 
  Originally by: Nafri 
  Originally by: Borg Fusion *yawns.....Looks over to the time and says, when is this soap opera going to end?....
 
 
 
 <--- waiting for the chapter 2 of "Monarch and the Corp1 Crew - Who made Sally pregnant?"
 
 
 ROFL!...
 
 Borg Fusion
 
 Corpse Collection
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