Neither char actually seems to PvP though, at least there's no combat record around. Maybe the alt was just saying they are into PvP to get access to something or try to hide in a PvP corp to mine, its common enough.

So

I started EvE Online a few months back. I was told by a friend who lives in deep null that it was an awsum game and since we both quit WoW when cata came out i thought hell ill try it

So...

Every corp i have joined has been war decced within 2-3 days of me joining it. What im told are griefer corps

I wanted to be a miner - why can i not play how i want to?

I am being forced into war and pvp

Im done

CCP your game is a pile of **** and ill be publicly slamming it on every website i am a member of

Pathetic

So

I started EvE Online a few months back. I was told by a friend who lives in deep null that it was an awsum game and since we both quit WoW when cata came out i thought hell ill try it

So...

Every corp i have joined has been war decced within 2-3 days of me joining it. What im told are griefer corps

I wanted to be a miner - why can i not play how i want to?

I am being forced into war and pvp

Im done

CCP your game is a pile of **** and ill be publicly slamming it on every website i am a member of

Pathetic

They also claim to be an 03 but both characters were made in December of 11 from what I can tell. Either this is more elaborate than we think or it may be possible that the person had another toon from ages ago. Makes you curious why a supposed new player would purchase 2 accounts at 3 months each to start, doesn't it?

So you came from WoW expecting to be wrapped in cotton wool like you were there, sorry to disappoint, but that's not how it works here. This is a game for people who don't need their hand held when they cross the road. And if all you wanted to do was mine then you're missing out on the best part of the game.

It may sound harsh but it's a much different game, you've expressed you're opinion and you're free to, but this is how the game is, it won't change because you've come here expecting minecraft or whatever you thought it would be like.

And we aren't trolling you either, despite what Valei Khurelem claims, we're simply telling you like it is. If you don't like the truth then hope you find the game you're looking for. Good luck.

EVE is advertised as a "Sandbox", you know, a game where you can do whatever you want to do. Like Mine.

And you can. So where is the problem?

I think it was the Original Poster, who came to EVE to mine and build and enjoy the Sandbox, and was forced to PvP, no doubt at a severe disadvantage, just the way all the great Pvpers of EVE like it.

Lady Vella seems to know a bit about eve's game mechanics. She also appears to have an alt. The alt appears to be into pvp.]

but Eve as a whole is not one of them. You're the one with the problem, not CCP.

But he/she is the one with the 15 dollars a month, and CCP is the one that just laid off 20% of their work force.

You are right. CCP should immediately start working on unicorns, mini-pets and epic raids with loot pinatas. That way they can compete in a different market and make squillions; just like RIFT and the other clones!

Why didn't they think of that?

http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility


Look at the bottom. They sure as hell better start doing something!

If you're running a business you sure as hell don't want any of your stat charts to look like that.

You do realise that 2006 is to the right in that graph? So the numbers are a bit down from the 2011 peak. But that is primarily because of the whole Incarna debacle when they stopped listening to their core gaming demographic and pandered to lord alone knows what.

You keep spamming how it's a game that doesn't protect people from themselves, how it's everyone vs everyone, and you have to be on your toes all the time, and you'll be a big walking advertisement to the people who are going to "get" EVE when they give it a try

So keep at it! :)

Ok, look at the past year. Negative growth. Still bad.

And there is also this thing called inflation that is always in effect. But please, keep saying to players that leave "HAHA you suck can I have your stuff!".

Because after all servers don't cost money or anything.

Also do you know what was at the root of the incarna debacle? THEY WERE TRYING TO MAKE MORE MONEY BY SELLING IN GAME ITEMS! And you didn't like that did you? Well if you "hard core" PvP types would chill the hell out with your cutt throat attitudes toward everyone else maybe the game would attract more players and they wouldn't have to try selling 80 dollar monocles to keep their game afloat.

epic raids with loot pinatas.

Again, what stopped the OP from mining? He could do it.

P.S. The OP is a PvPer that is busy trolling you badly; read that second to last and last link from Micheal Dietrich.

Ok, look at the past year. Negative growth. Still bad.

And there is also this thing called inflation that is always in effect. But please, keep saying to players that leave "HAHA you suck can I have your stuff!".

Because after all servers don't cost money or anything.

You don't really have enough data for 2012 to say anything about what this year will be like. The current position is about the same.

Waitaminnit, does that mean that I can't haz its' stuffs?

Look there is no growth. There just isn't. Look at the yearly graph. You can't argue with the numbers.

Thats still not a bright outlook no matter how you wanna twist it.

So you admit there has been no growth, CCP has not raised their prices, and world inflation is still in effect.

Thats still not a bright outlook no matter how you wanna twist it.