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Lady Vella The Scope Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2012.02.09 09:39:00 - [1] - Quote So I started EvE Online a few months back. I was told by a friend who lives in deep null that it was an awsum game and since we both quit WoW when cata came out i thought hell ill try it So... Every corp i have joined has been war decced within 2-3 days of me joining it. What im told are griefer corps I wanted to be a miner - why can i not play how i want to? I am being forced into war and pvp Im done CCP your game is a pile of **** and ill be publicly slamming it on every website i am a member of Pathetic
Valei Khurelem 285	Posted - 2012.02.09 09:41:00 - [2] - Quote You're going to get trolled :( Sorry to see you go, but I'm planning on buying PLEX with the ISK I make just so I can stick around here laughing at the PvPers as they kill their game. "don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP." -á - CCP Ytterbium
Jaroslav Unwanted Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 1330	Posted - 2012.02.09 09:41:00 - [3] - Quote you are correct. That is the reason why so many people like it.. And to be honest.. Mining .. as an active action is not really good.. Its terrible in fact.
Serge Bastana GWA Corp 114	Posted - 2012.02.09 09:50:00 - [4] - Quote So you came from WoW expecting to be wrapped in cotton wool like you were there, sorry to disappoint, but that's not how it works here. This is a game for people who don't need their hand held when they cross the road. And if all you wanted to do was mine then you're missing out on the best part of the game. It may sound harsh but it's a much different game, you've expressed you're opinion and you're free to, but this is how the game is, it won't change because you've come here expecting minecraft or whatever you thought it would be like. And we aren't trolling you either, despite what the 2nd poster claims, we're simply telling you like it is. If you don't like the truth then hope you find the game you're looking for. Good luck. in other MMO's stupid people are annoying. In EVE they are a valuable resource /facebrick for those times when /facepalm just isn't enough
Bel Amar Lapse Of Sanity Exhale. 26	Posted - 2012.02.09 09:51:00 - [5] - Quote Lady Vella wrote: CCP your game is a pile of **** and ill be publicly slamming it on every website i am a member of Pathetic You keep spamming how it's a game that doesn't protect people from themselves, how it's everyone vs everyone, and you have to be on your toes all the time, and you'll be a big walking advertisement to the people who are going to "get" EVE when they give it a try So keep at it! :)
Buzzmong Aliastra Gallente Federation 131	Posted - 2012.02.09 09:54:00 - [6] - Quote Pffft. Moaning about high sec grief corps Join your friend in null sec, it's a rather different game. And wardecs don't really matter either.
Fuee Cupcake Catapults 2	Posted - 2012.02.09 09:54:00 - [7] - Quote Lady Vella wrote: So CCP your game is a pile of **** and ill be publicly slamming it on every website i am a member of Pathetic I do that all the time, regardless of how I may or may not be feeling about it at that moment.
IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69 Angry Mustellid 88	Posted - 2012.02.09 09:56:00 - [8] - Quote As far as I can tell from the kill boards you have never been a victim of 'forced PVP' So STFU
Arcathra Technodyne Ltd. 149	Posted - 2012.02.09 10:01:00 - [9] - Quote Jaroslav Unwanted wrote: you are correct. That is the reason why so many people like it.. And to be honest.. Mining .. as an active action is not really good.. Its terrible in fact. Matter of oppinion... ...but yeah, even we miners are complaining that it needs some kind of overhaul . @Lady Vella Sorry to hear that you had so many problems. Sounds like incredible bad luck. The sad thing is, that those "griefings" (in fact, it isn't griefing by definition of the developers) are a big part of the game. The good thing is, that this is a sandbox and you can find many ways to avoid those "griefings". For a new player this might not be obvious. Planning and trying to avoid this and lower your risk is something that many people like me actually enjoy. It makes the game interesting to play and you are actually feeling that there are other players who have an impact on you and others. Of course this isn't something that everybody likes. Either find your place in the sandbox and give some thought to it or realise that the game might not be the right thing for you. Or the right thing to just relax after a hard day of work...
Destination SkillQueue Are We There Yet 1809	Posted - 2012.02.09 10:02:00 - [10] - Quote Valei Khurelem wrote: You're going to get trolled :( Sorry to see you go, but I'm planning on buying PLEX with the ISK I make just so I can stick around here laughing at the PvPers as they kill their game. So true. This is exactly why EVE has been dying for close to 9 years now and shows no signs of recovery.

TheBlueMonkey Natural Progression 25	Posted - 2012.02.09 10:06:00 - [11] - Quote You know when you spend a lot of time at the cinema watching films and them some one tells you "the books way more awesome" So you decide to give it a go, you head out to the book store, pick up a copy, get home and then ***** about all the reading that's involved? That's basically what you're doing here.
Liam Mirren 248	Posted - 2012.02.09 10:08:00 - [12] - Quote EVE is a marmite game; some like it, many don't. The ones that do like it are loyal customers and thus the product is viable and successful. You don't HAVE to like marmite, it's ok if you don't but you also don't have to go screaming and stamping your foot about how much you dislike it. Bye. If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right. My guides: http://mirren.freeforums.org
Bischopt Ice Fire Warriors Late Night Alliance 68	Posted - 2012.02.09 10:08:00 - [13] - Quote If it's wardecs you're worried about the solution is quite simple: 1) NPC corp that cannot be wardecced 2) a respectable corp that wont be wardecced because they're too much of a threat 3) grow some balls and fight back Quote: I wanted to be a miner - why can i not play how i want to? You can. And so can everyone else, that's the whole point. Eve is a sandbox, unlike wow. CCP may not be perfect and they've made some pretty nasty mistakes, some of which are still fresh, but Eve as a whole is not one of them. You're the one with the problem, not CCP.
Mag's the united Negative Ten. 7036	Posted - 2012.02.09 10:11:00 - [14] - Quote It's been this way for 9 years. Do you seriously think after all that time, that your little backside being here will somehow change that fact? Eve is PvP centric. In fact naming things in Eve that are not PvP, makes for a small list indeed. Valei Khurelem wrote: You're going to get trolled :( Sorry to see you go, but I'm planning on buying PLEX with the ISK I make just so I can stick around here laughing at the PvPers as they kill their game. Eve is dying, right? CCP Zulu..... Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience.
Jowen Datloran Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 300	Posted - 2012.02.09 10:14:00 - [15] - Quote OP: You know those "griefer" corps you talk about? They post each and every kill they make on their killboard to show off the size of their e-peen. Why are you not listed on any as a victim? Mr. Science & Trade Institute, EVE Online Lorebook-á
Reilly Duvolle Hydra Squadron 290	Posted - 2012.02.09 10:16:00 - [16] - Quote Lady Vella wrote: I wanted to be a miner - why can i not play how i want to? I am being forced into war and pvp You obvioulsy didnt dare to be bold.
Richard Desturned 8	Posted - 2012.02.09 10:16:00 - [17] - Quote Jowen Datloran wrote: OP: You know those "griefer" corps you talk about? They post each and every kill they make on their killboard to show off the size of their e-peen. Why are you not listed on any as a victim? the two of you have one thing in common forum alts that or he never undocked during wardecs?
Gerrick Palivorn Caldari Provisions Caldari State 110	Posted - 2012.02.09 10:17:00 - [18] - Quote Sorry that you didn't get you way, I'll fax you a hurt feelings report and then you can submit it to the forums. Everyone will then know where the bad men touched you.
Khanh'rhh One Man Rodgering 652	Posted - 2012.02.09 10:31:00 - [19] - Quote So basically you're a risk averse carebear, you joined up with other risk averse carebears, who probably told you to stay docked for the war, and this is somehow CCPs fault? Cool story bro, WOW is --->, etc - "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930's
TheGunslinger42 Bite me inc. Exhale. 16	Posted - 2012.02.09 10:39:00 - [20] - Quote Probably wasting my breath on a troll thread, but whatever, here goes: You realise that you can stay in npc corps and never have to face the meanie war deccers, right? Or that there are ways for your corporation to avoid or get out of war decs if they're that troublesome? Why not spend a little bit time and effort learning how to play the game instead of immediately throwing down your toys and running away. ps if you're going back to wow can i have ur stuff

Khanh'rhh One Man Rodgering 653	Posted - 2012.02.09 10:41:00 - [21] - Quote BTW, an interesting line from your OP: Lady Vella wrote: I was told by a friend who lives in deep null that it was an awsum game Which leads to a question: - Are you surprised that a player who seeks out player made content in a PVP MMO enjoys the game more than someone who sits in highsec, doing repetitive tasks over and over? - "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930's
Ifly Uwalk Concentrated Evil Mining For Profit Alliance 160	Posted - 2012.02.09 10:43:00 - [22] - Quote Lady Vella wrote: Every corp i have joined has been war decced within 2-3 days of me joining it. Way to blow your spy cover.
Caliph Muhammed Caldari Investment and Security Industries Innovia Alliance 68	Posted - 2012.02.09 10:52:00 - [23] - Quote Another bear tagged and bagged.
Sarah Schneider PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore 42	Posted - 2012.02.09 11:05:00 - [24] - Quote Destination SkillQueue wrote: Valei Khurelem wrote: You're going to get trolled :( Sorry to see you go, but I'm planning on buying PLEX with the ISK I make just so I can stick around here laughing at the PvPers as they kill their game. So true. This is exactly why EVE has been dying for close to 9 years now and shows no signs of recovery. Must be a very, very, very... slow death if 'something' is dying for that many years...
Mai Khumm Apple Construction Inc Northern Associates. 164	Posted - 2012.02.09 11:11:00 - [25] - Quote WoW holds your hand until end game, and gives you a cookie weither you win or loose. EVE not only takes your cookie, but laughs at you for bringing one in the first place... "Being drunk is a good disguise. I drink so I can talk to a**holes. This includes me."
Cebraio Starfire Oasis 15	Posted - 2012.02.09 11:21:00 - [26] - Quote @OP: - Join a NPC corp if you are scared of war decs. * - Insure your mining ship as you still might get killed by suicide gankers ** - Mine and yawn, mine and yawn, mine and yawn, mine and yawn, mine and yawn ... - ... - Possibly profit * It's more fun to join a good player corp that can defend itself. ** I never had problems with gankers whenever I mined, but since you came from WoW, you might be less lucky in EvE.
Solstice Project I'm So Meta Even This Acronym 1346	Posted - 2012.02.09 11:32:00 - [27] - Quote Why are there so many kids opening up threads now ? O_o Just ignore them and they'll go away anyway ! Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire
Captain Torgo The Geedunk Expedition 4	Posted - 2012.02.09 11:43:00 - [28] - Quote You probably got wardec'ed so many times because you or members of your corp mouthed off or acted a fool to the wrong people (as wowtards are often prone to do). You get away with it in wow all the time because other players have no recourse except to put you on ignore. In eve, players have a lot of options to choose from when dealing with wowtards. The preferred method for dealing with obnoxious morons is PvP and eve has lots if it. Judging by your attitude and behavior, I'm guessing eve is not the first game you've emo rage quit from. When there's a reoccurring theme like that, it means you can't cut it anywhere else in the gaming world. You are the lowest common denominator that naturally trickled down into the bilge that is wow.
Alissa Solette University of Caille Gallente Federation 4	Posted - 2012.02.09 12:14:00 - [29] - Quote Go back to WOW. You won't be missed. Don't let the door hit you on your way out.
Valentinian Aulmais Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2012.02.09 12:26:00 - [30] - Quote Lady Vella wrote: So I started EvE Online a few months back. I was told by a friend who lives in deep null that it was an awsum game and since we both quit WoW when cata came out i thought hell ill try it So... Every corp i have joined has been war decced within 2-3 days of me joining it. What im told are griefer corps I wanted to be a miner - why can i not play how i want to? I am being forced into war and pvp Im done CCP your game is a pile of **** and ill be publicly slamming it on every website i am a member of Pathetic You don't HAVE to PvP, you could mine in high-sec in a Hulk. What you need to remember is that EVE has one of the most childish and immature communities of any game, even more than WoW percentage-wise. This means that as soon as someone sees you in low-security space, there's no rhyme or reason for it - they're going to kill you. So you go with a friend or in a ship you don't mind losing. That's just the way EVE is.



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