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Lady Vella
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.09 09:39:00 -
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So
I started EvE Online a few months back. I was told by a friend who lives in deep null that it was an awsum game and since we both quit WoW when cata came out i thought hell ill try it
So...
Every corp i have joined has been war decced within 2-3 days of me joining it. What im told are griefer corps
I wanted to be a miner - why can i not play how i want to?
I am being forced into war and pvp
Im done
CCP your game is a pile of **** and ill be publicly slamming it on every website i am a member of
Pathetic |

Valei Khurelem
285
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Posted - 2012.02.09 09:41:00 -
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You're going to get trolled :( Sorry to see you go, but I'm planning on buying PLEX with the ISK I make just so I can stick around here laughing at the PvPers as they kill their game.
"don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP." -á - CCP Ytterbium |

Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1330
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Posted - 2012.02.09 09:41:00 -
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you are correct.
That is the reason why so many people like it..
And to be honest.. Mining .. as an active action is not really good.. Its terrible in fact. |

Serge Bastana
GWA Corp
114
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Posted - 2012.02.09 09:50:00 -
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So you came from WoW expecting to be wrapped in cotton wool like you were there, sorry to disappoint, but that's not how it works here. This is a game for people who don't need their hand held when they cross the road. And if all you wanted to do was mine then you're missing out on the best part of the game.
It may sound harsh but it's a much different game, you've expressed you're opinion and you're free to, but this is how the game is, it won't change because you've come here expecting minecraft or whatever you thought it would be like.
And we aren't trolling you either, despite what the 2nd poster claims, we're simply telling you like it is. If you don't like the truth then hope you find the game you're looking for. Good luck. in other MMO's stupid people are annoying. In EVE they are a valuable resource /facebrick for those times when /facepalm just isn't enough
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Bel Amar
Lapse Of Sanity Exhale.
26
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Posted - 2012.02.09 09:51:00 -
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Lady Vella wrote:CCP your game is a pile of **** and ill be publicly slamming it on every website i am a member of
Pathetic
You keep spamming how it's a game that doesn't protect people from themselves, how it's everyone vs everyone, and you have to be on your toes all the time, and you'll be a big walking advertisement to the people who are going to "get" EVE when they give it a try
So keep at it! :) |

Buzzmong
Aliastra Gallente Federation
131
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Posted - 2012.02.09 09:54:00 -
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Pffft. Moaning about high sec grief corps 
Join your friend in null sec, it's a rather different game. And wardecs don't really matter either. |

Fuee
Cupcake Catapults
2
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Posted - 2012.02.09 09:54:00 -
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Lady Vella wrote:So
CCP your game is a pile of **** and ill be publicly slamming it on every website i am a member of
Pathetic

I do that all the time, regardless of how I may or may not be feeling about it at that moment.
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IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69
Angry Mustellid
88
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Posted - 2012.02.09 09:56:00 -
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As far as I can tell from the kill boards you have never been a victim of 'forced PVP'
So STFU |

Arcathra
Technodyne Ltd.
149
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Posted - 2012.02.09 10:01:00 -
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Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:you are correct.
That is the reason why so many people like it..
And to be honest.. Mining .. as an active action is not really good.. Its terrible in fact. Matter of oppinion...
...but yeah, even we miners are complaining that it needs some kind of overhaul .
@Lady Vella Sorry to hear that you had so many problems. Sounds like incredible bad luck.
The sad thing is, that those "griefings" (in fact, it isn't griefing by definition of the developers) are a big part of the game. The good thing is, that this is a sandbox and you can find many ways to avoid those "griefings". For a new player this might not be obvious. Planning and trying to avoid this and lower your risk is something that many people like me actually enjoy. It makes the game interesting to play and you are actually feeling that there are other players who have an impact on you and others. Of course this isn't something that everybody likes. Either find your place in the sandbox and give some thought to it or realise that the game might not be the right thing for you. Or the right thing to just relax after a hard day of work... |

Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
1809
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Posted - 2012.02.09 10:02:00 -
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Valei Khurelem wrote:You're going to get trolled :( Sorry to see you go, but I'm planning on buying PLEX with the ISK I make just so I can stick around here laughing at the PvPers as they kill their game.
So true. This is exactly why EVE has been dying for close to 9 years now and shows no signs of recovery. |
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TheBlueMonkey
Natural Progression
25
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Posted - 2012.02.09 10:06:00 -
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You know when you spend a lot of time at the cinema watching films and them some one tells you "the books way more awesome"
So you decide to give it a go, you head out to the book store, pick up a copy, get home and then ***** about all the reading that's involved?
That's basically what you're doing here. |

Liam Mirren
248
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Posted - 2012.02.09 10:08:00 -
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EVE is a marmite game; some like it, many don't. The ones that do like it are loyal customers and thus the product is viable and successful. You don't HAVE to like marmite, it's ok if you don't but you also don't have to go screaming and stamping your foot about how much you dislike it.
Bye. If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right.
My guides: http://mirren.freeforums.org |

Bischopt
Ice Fire Warriors Late Night Alliance
68
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Posted - 2012.02.09 10:08:00 -
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If it's wardecs you're worried about the solution is quite simple: 1) NPC corp that cannot be wardecced 2) a respectable corp that wont be wardecced because they're too much of a threat 3) grow some balls and fight back
Quote:I wanted to be a miner - why can i not play how i want to?
You can. And so can everyone else, that's the whole point.
Eve is a sandbox, unlike wow. CCP may not be perfect and they've made some pretty nasty mistakes, some of which are still fresh, but Eve as a whole is not one of them. You're the one with the problem, not CCP. |

Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
7036
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Posted - 2012.02.09 10:11:00 -
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It's been this way for 9 years. Do you seriously think after all that time, that your little backside being here will somehow change that fact?
Eve is PvP centric. In fact naming things in Eve that are not PvP, makes for a small list indeed.
Valei Khurelem wrote:You're going to get trolled :( Sorry to see you go, but I'm planning on buying PLEX with the ISK I make just so I can stick around here laughing at the PvPers as they kill their game. Eve is dying, right?
CCP Zulu..... Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |

Jowen Datloran
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
300
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Posted - 2012.02.09 10:14:00 -
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OP: You know those "griefer" corps you talk about? They post each and every kill they make on their killboard to show off the size of their e-peen. Why are you not listed on any as a victim? Mr. Science & Trade Institute, EVE Online Lorebook-á |

Reilly Duvolle
Hydra Squadron
290
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Posted - 2012.02.09 10:16:00 -
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Lady Vella wrote:
I wanted to be a miner - why can i not play how i want to?
I am being forced into war and pvp
You obvioulsy didnt dare to be bold. |

Richard Desturned
8
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Posted - 2012.02.09 10:16:00 -
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Jowen Datloran wrote:OP: You know those "griefer" corps you talk about? They post each and every kill they make on their killboard to show off the size of their e-peen. Why are you not listed on any as a victim?
the two of you have one thing in common
forum alts
that or he never undocked during wardecs? |

Gerrick Palivorn
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
110
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Posted - 2012.02.09 10:17:00 -
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Sorry that you didn't get you way, I'll fax you a hurt feelings report and then you can submit it to the forums. Everyone will then know where the bad men touched you. |

Khanh'rhh
One Man Rodgering
652
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Posted - 2012.02.09 10:31:00 -
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So basically you're a risk averse carebear, you joined up with other risk averse carebears, who probably told you to stay docked for the war, and this is somehow CCPs fault?
Cool story bro, WOW is --->, etc - "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930's |

TheGunslinger42
Bite me inc. Exhale.
16
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Posted - 2012.02.09 10:39:00 -
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Probably wasting my breath on a troll thread, but whatever, here goes: You realise that you can stay in npc corps and never have to face the meanie war deccers, right? Or that there are ways for your corporation to avoid or get out of war decs if they're that troublesome? Why not spend a little bit time and effort learning how to play the game instead of immediately throwing down your toys and running away.
ps if you're going back to wow can i have ur stuff |
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Khanh'rhh
One Man Rodgering
653
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Posted - 2012.02.09 10:41:00 -
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BTW, an interesting line from your OP:
Lady Vella wrote:I was told by a friend who lives in deep null that it was an awsum game
Which leads to a question:
- Are you surprised that a player who seeks out player made content in a PVP MMO enjoys the game more than someone who sits in highsec, doing repetitive tasks over and over? - "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930's |

Ifly Uwalk
Concentrated Evil Mining For Profit Alliance
160
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Posted - 2012.02.09 10:43:00 -
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Lady Vella wrote:Every corp i have joined has been war decced within 2-3 days of me joining it. Way to blow your spy cover. |

Caliph Muhammed
Caldari Investment and Security Industries Innovia Alliance
68
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Posted - 2012.02.09 10:52:00 -
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Another bear tagged and bagged. |

Sarah Schneider
PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore
42
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Posted - 2012.02.09 11:05:00 -
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Destination SkillQueue wrote:Valei Khurelem wrote:You're going to get trolled :( Sorry to see you go, but I'm planning on buying PLEX with the ISK I make just so I can stick around here laughing at the PvPers as they kill their game. So true. This is exactly why EVE has been dying for close to 9 years now and shows no signs of recovery. Must be a very, very, very... slow death if 'something' is dying for that many years... |

Mai Khumm
Apple Construction Inc Northern Associates.
164
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Posted - 2012.02.09 11:11:00 -
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WoW holds your hand until end game, and gives you a cookie weither you win or loose. EVE not only takes your cookie, but laughs at you for bringing one in the first place... "Being drunk is a good disguise. I drink so I can talk to a**holes. This includes me." |

Cebraio
Starfire Oasis
15
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Posted - 2012.02.09 11:21:00 -
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@OP:
- Join a NPC corp if you are scared of war decs. * - Insure your mining ship as you still might get killed by suicide gankers ** - Mine and yawn, mine and yawn, mine and yawn, mine and yawn, mine and yawn ... - ... - Possibly profit
* It's more fun to join a good player corp that can defend itself. ** I never had problems with gankers whenever I mined, but since you came from WoW, you might be less lucky in EvE.
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Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
1346
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Posted - 2012.02.09 11:32:00 -
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Why are there so many kids opening up threads now ? O_o
Just ignore them and they'll go away anyway ! Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |

Captain Torgo
The Geedunk Expedition
4
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Posted - 2012.02.09 11:43:00 -
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You probably got wardec'ed so many times because you or members of your corp mouthed off or acted a fool to the wrong people (as wowtards are often prone to do). You get away with it in wow all the time because other players have no recourse except to put you on ignore.
In eve, players have a lot of options to choose from when dealing with wowtards. The preferred method for dealing with obnoxious morons is PvP and eve has lots if it.
Judging by your attitude and behavior, I'm guessing eve is not the first game you've emo rage quit from. When there's a reoccurring theme like that, it means you can't cut it anywhere else in the gaming world. You are the lowest common denominator that naturally trickled down into the bilge that is wow. |

Alissa Solette
University of Caille Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2012.02.09 12:14:00 -
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Go back to WOW.
You won't be missed.
Don't let the door hit you on your way out. |

Valentinian Aulmais
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.02.09 12:26:00 -
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Lady Vella wrote:So
I started EvE Online a few months back. I was told by a friend who lives in deep null that it was an awsum game and since we both quit WoW when cata came out i thought hell ill try it
So...
Every corp i have joined has been war decced within 2-3 days of me joining it. What im told are griefer corps
I wanted to be a miner - why can i not play how i want to?
I am being forced into war and pvp
Im done
CCP your game is a pile of **** and ill be publicly slamming it on every website i am a member of
Pathetic
You don't HAVE to PvP, you could mine in high-sec in a Hulk. What you need to remember is that EVE has one of the most childish and immature communities of any game, even more than WoW percentage-wise. This means that as soon as someone sees you in low-security space, there's no rhyme or reason for it - they're going to kill you. So you go with a friend or in a ship you don't mind losing. That's just the way EVE is. |
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Heimdallofasgard
Blazing Celts
63
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Posted - 2012.02.09 12:27:00 -
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THANKS FOR PLAYING! :D |

Hayley Endymion
All Web Investigations
0
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Posted - 2012.02.09 12:32:00 -
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Valentinian Aulmais wrote:Lady Vella wrote:So
I started EvE Online a few months back. I was told by a friend who lives in deep null that it was an awsum game and since we both quit WoW when cata came out i thought hell ill try it
So...
Every corp i have joined has been war decced within 2-3 days of me joining it. What im told are griefer corps
I wanted to be a miner - why can i not play how i want to?
I am being forced into war and pvp
Im done
CCP your game is a pile of **** and ill be publicly slamming it on every website i am a member of
Pathetic You don't HAVE to PvP, you could mine in high-sec in a Hulk. What you need to remember is that EVE has one of the most childish and immature communities of any game, even more than WoW percentage-wise. This means that as soon as someone sees you in low-security space, there's no rhyme or reason for it - they're going to kill you. So you go with a friend or in a ship you don't mind losing. That's just the way EVE is.
Calling people childish for pvping for "no rhyme or reason" in an MMO that is so utterly and completely focused on players interacting and fighting each other?
Sorry, what? |

Lexmana
Imperial Stout
196
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Posted - 2012.02.09 12:36:00 -
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It is nice to see one I am leaving and one Im Back thread on the first page in GD. We lost one and gained another. EvE is truly evolving and is a better game today than yesterday. Thanks OP for doing the right thing and good luck. |

VIP Ares
BALKAN EXPRESS
34
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Posted - 2012.02.09 12:37:00 -
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LOL I have a feeling so many people got trolled this time. http://vipares.griefwatch.net |

Fouljin
Sanguine Marauders
0
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Posted - 2012.02.09 12:38:00 -
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I also played WoW, alot. I loved it untill first expansion when I was done with it. Also in WoW, if you have played in pvp server, it's pretty much forced pvp, more like lvlcap epic nerd slaughtering lowlevels while laughing at it.
If you are in Null corp and alliance and you are living in null I dont really see how a wardec is ruining your mining career? I mean mining in your corps own pocket in null with wardec is ALOT safer than mining in highsec without wardec!
Here is how to survive null mining while in war and other stuff.
- Choose suitable roidbelt in the system your corp/aliance has a POS / station. - Use Hulk with tank! You need tank to repell those fat rats that spawn on belts. - Always, always keep aligned to station / pos for quick espace. - Have a corp mate / alt to do the hauling. - Train scanning skills and look for gravsite, even more safe as it takes a while for enemy so scan you down when they enter the system, if they even bother to do that, gives you more time to espace back to pos / station.
For the rest of the time when you are NOT mining, it get boring soon.... ;) - Train basic combat / tackle skills and learn to fly ships of your choise to at least to battlecruiser. You can contribute with small and fast frigate on combat, even with lowskills. My first days in Null years ago, I was flying a Rifter with basic tackle and speed. Had tons of fun and as I hope, respect as I did my part defending alliance sov. Later I flew cruisers, battlecruiser and so on.
- Also PI is nice passive income and your alliance can benefit from it too, making you a valuable asset to alliance / corp in time. Also basic PI skills won't take that long to train.
- Never EVER go to highsec while in war! Simple as that! Unless you got a ship that can survive highsec gatecamps.
- Remember, in Eve things take time. There is NO shortcuts. Plan your skill training at least 6 months ahead, I prefer one year. - Keep a jumpclone in highsec just in case, never know when you need it. Also keep a spare ship suitable for your career in highsec just in case. So even if everything goes "Pete Tong" in null, you have at least something to return to.
In Eve, plan and thing things before you rush into them. In WoW, there is basicly no consecuenses for your actions, in Eve, almost everything you do has. This is most important difference between Wow or any other wowlike mmo and Eve.
I personally have lost billions of isk in pvp, made billions in missions/salvage/trade etc,have camped gates, had been blow to oblivion in gatecamps, been in rock bottom with no isk and crappy frigate and always crawled my way back to normal happy life in Eve.
And btw, it took me about year and half to really get into Eve. (Thou eve was a bit different in 2006)
Oh yeah, almost forgot, don't forget to salt your fries! |

Theuzal Har
Eternal Sunshine. Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.02.09 13:12:00 -
[36] - Quote
Same thing happened to me, I went from WOW to WOT and everyone started attacking me. I should be allowed to do exploration in my tank, I dont even load any ammo so Im no threat. |

Alexandra Delarge
The Korova
34
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Posted - 2012.02.09 13:15:00 -
[37] - Quote
A previous Lady Vella post says:
Lady Vella wrote: Hi
So i recently came back to the game last month. I have so far joined three corps that have promised the world and done jack ****
My patience, with EvE is now going to **** and back. I paid for these accounts for three months. I am an exp player from 03-09
I have 2.6bil ISK from plex sales and dont REQUIRE anything from a corp except group activites in EMPIRE for the time being.
I suppose my last post wasnt specific enough. So ill make it this time. And yes, i am VERY angry.
Level 4 missions (corp or group) Sum interest in Incursions would be nice Low sec pvp roams that actually get results not sucicde. Ts3 is a must with active people ACTIVE corp in the EU/UK TZ
I am sorry to be a **** but i pay, i deserve to play this game as i see fit
Please respond here or mail LADY HOFSTEDAR
Thank you
Doesn't mention being war decced. U trolling? |

Tallianna Avenkarde
Beasts of Burden
286
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Posted - 2012.02.09 13:36:00 -
[38] - Quote
Your stuff? I can has? And a sudden plunge in the sullen swell. Ten fathoms deep on the road to hell. |

Aruken Marr
BSC LEGION Tactical Narcotics Team
36
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Posted - 2012.02.09 13:38:00 -
[39] - Quote
Bye, wimp. |

gfldex
316
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Posted - 2012.02.09 13:40:00 -
[40] - Quote
Lady Vella wrote:What im told are griefer corps
You are welcome.
The game has a tutorial that gives you a mining laser and a railgun and tells you to go shoot rocks and red crosses. It teaches you nothing else. It's been that way for 8 years, so are you really surprised that there are people who aren't aware that this is a pvp game? --Jafit McJafitson |
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Micheal Dietrich
Standards and Practices
37
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Posted - 2012.02.09 13:55:00 -
[41] - Quote
Lady Vella seems to know a bit about eve's game mechanics. She also appears to have an alt. The alt appears to be into pvp. |

Lady Spank
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
1501
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Posted - 2012.02.09 13:58:00 -
[42] - Quote
She seems to be into unfunny shitposting too. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |

Valei Khurelem
286
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Posted - 2012.02.09 14:02:00 -
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Quote:Must be a very, very, very... slow death if 'something' is dying for that many years...
Doesn't it make you think twice at all that the only part of EVE Online space that is actually working is in fact high sec and the people who want it shut down or nerfed are almost exclusively all 0.0 and low sec players?
"don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP." -á - CCP Ytterbium |

Lexmana
Imperial Stout
196
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Posted - 2012.02.09 14:07:00 -
[44] - Quote
Valei Khurelem wrote:Doesn't it make you think twice at all that the only part of EVE Online space that is actually working is in fact high sec and the people who want it shut down or nerfed are almost exclusively all 0.0 and low sec players? Where did you get that information from ... ooh, yeah, you made it up! |

Jhagiti Tyran
Muppet Ninja's Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
217
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Posted - 2012.02.09 14:08:00 -
[45] - Quote
Lady Vella wrote:So
I started EvE Online a few months back. I was told by a friend who lives in deep null that it was an awsum game and since we both quit WoW when cata came out i thought hell ill try it
So...
Every corp i have joined has been war decced within 2-3 days of me joining it. What im told are griefer corps
I wanted to be a miner - why can i not play how i want to?
I am being forced into war and pvp
Im done
CCP your game is a pile of **** and ill be publicly slamming it on every website i am a member of
Pathetic
Why should any player have your devaluation of the mineral market forced on them? If you are going to PvP other people don't be surprised if other people PvP you back. |

Valei Khurelem
286
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Posted - 2012.02.09 14:14:00 -
[46] - Quote
Lexmana wrote:Valei Khurelem wrote:Doesn't it make you think twice at all that the only part of EVE Online space that is actually working is in fact high sec and the people who want it shut down or nerfed are almost exclusively all 0.0 and low sec players? Where did you get that information from ... ooh, yeah, you made it up!
Just like you all make up conversations that I never had with you and form opinions on things I never said! ;)
"don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP." -á - CCP Ytterbium |

Chiggy W
Hard-Luck Industries
21
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Posted - 2012.02.09 14:17:00 -
[47] - Quote
Lexmana wrote:Valei Khurelem wrote:Doesn't it make you think twice at all that the only part of EVE Online space that is actually working is in fact high sec and the people who want it shut down or nerfed are almost exclusively all 0.0 and low sec players? Where did you get that information from ... ooh, yeah, you made it up!
Pretty much, but why let facts get in the way of a good sperge? I'm not sure how he came to the conclusion that high sec is the only part of the game working, and last time I checked HS has in fact received buffs, and more incoming with the war dec redesign. |

Valei Khurelem
286
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Posted - 2012.02.09 14:23:00 -
[48] - Quote
Quote:and last time I checked HS has in fact received buffs, and more incoming with the war dec redesign.
Quote:and the people who want it shut down or nerfed
Do I have to find these quotes each time or are you going to stop this nonsense and read peoples posts properly? This is why a large number of EVE players aren't bothering coming to the forums anymore, in fact one thing I've noticed is how much nicer the people hanging out in out of pod experience are.
"don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP." -á - CCP Ytterbium |

Rellik B00n
Lethal Death Squad
125
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Posted - 2012.02.09 14:25:00 -
[49] - Quote
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my war dec solution |

Micheal Dietrich
Standards and Practices
37
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Posted - 2012.02.09 14:26:00 -
[50] - Quote
Valei Khurelem wrote:Quote:and last time I checked HS has in fact received buffs, and more incoming with the war dec redesign. Quote:and the people who want it shut down or nerfed Do I have to find these quotes each time or are you going to stop this nonsense and read peoples posts properly? This is why a large number of EVE players aren't bothering coming to the forums anymore, in fact one thing I've noticed is how much nicer the people hanging out in out of pod experience are.
As Grand master of OOPE I must inform you that a good chunk of regular posters who dwell in OOPE are low/null pilots and avid members of C&P as well. You are enjoying the company of those you hate. |
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Henry Haphorn
Aliastra Gallente Federation
180
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Posted - 2012.02.09 14:32:00 -
[51] - Quote
If you don't like getting wardecced, leave the player corp and live in high-sec with an NPC corp (immunity to wardeccing). Simple.
By the way, mining is not the only profession I strive for. I trained an alt to go into null-sec on its own to see how deep I can go before my alt's pod goes 'pop'. |

Stonecrusher Mortlock
University of Caille Gallente Federation
19
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Posted - 2012.02.09 14:51:00 -
[52] - Quote
Lady Vella wrote:So
I started EvE Online a few months back. I was told by a friend who lives in deep null that it was an awsum game and since we both quit WoW when cata came out i thought hell ill try it
So...
Every corp i have joined has been war decced within 2-3 days of me joining it. What im told are griefer corps
I wanted to be a miner - why can i not play how i want to?
I am being forced into war and pvp
Im done
CCP your game is a pile of **** and ill be publicly slamming it on every website i am a member of
Pathetic
you really need to join a high sec corp that practices war deck washing, you can avoid most war decks in like a day.
or join a NPC corp like 97% of eve has done. ( ether directly or with an alt)
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Tore Vest
204
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Posted - 2012.02.09 14:58:00 -
[53] - Quote
Lady Vella wrote:So
I started EvE Online a few months back. I was told by a friend who lives in deep null that it was an awsum game and since we both quit WoW when cata came out i thought hell ill try it
So...
Every corp i have joined has been war decced within 2-3 days of me joining it. What im told are griefer corps
I wanted to be a miner - why can i not play how i want to?
I am being forced into war and pvp
Im done
CCP your game is a pile of **** and ill be publicly slamming it on every website i am a member of
Pathetic
Leave your corp.... Buy urself an iteron and stick a mininglaser on it... Find yourself a cute veldspar rock.... And start mining.... Nothing stoping you... 
Highsec carebear... and proud of it |

Kyle Valentine
Aliastra Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.02.09 14:58:00 -
[54] - Quote
WoW has destroyed the MMORPGs. You loved WoW.
Go back to it and never come again. And tell that to all your little friends.
Thanks. |

MNagy
Yo-Mama Quixotic Hegemony
75
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Posted - 2012.02.09 15:03:00 -
[55] - Quote
Why would you want to play a game that consistantly rewards you and doesnt give you any setbacks.
I find getting a little wrench thrown in my plans here and there makes the game interesting. Run an industrial ship past some campers ... that feelign is well worth the game in itself.
It seems you are just looking for a 'care bear' style of play where you can just click things and just get stuff.
Its like asking to play super mario 1, but also asking so you are invincible through the whole game. - Whats the point? |

Ciar Meara
Virtus Vindice
516
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Posted - 2012.02.09 15:05:00 -
[56] - Quote
Oh Micheal Dietrich will your amazing exploits of super investigation never cease!
- [img]http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/janus/ceosig.jpg[/img] [yellow]English only please. Zymurgist[/yellow] |

Daniel L'Siata
Echelon Conflict Resolution. Psychotic Tendencies.
84
|
Posted - 2012.02.09 15:06:00 -
[57] - Quote
ITT - Total idiot doesn't understand concept of game and cries. |

Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3095
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Posted - 2012.02.09 15:20:00 -
[58] - Quote
You can forcefably not pvp, ccp gave you the option and are sticking by it.
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Billionaire Carebear
University of Caille Gallente Federation
87
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Posted - 2012.02.09 16:57:00 -
[59] - Quote
PVC = Player Vs Carebear, popular new sport, fun and easy to learn, low risk, high reward, join now!?! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letter_and_spirit_of_the_law
http://krypto451.deviantart.com/art/Care-Bears-Spanking-168001373
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kh0Uu1yD-v0 -áGeorge Carlin "They're Just Words." |

Caliph Muhammed
Caldari Investment and Security Industries Innovia Alliance
71
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Posted - 2012.02.09 16:59:00 -
[60] - Quote
Mai Khumm wrote:WoW holds your hand until end game, and gives you a cookie whether you win or lose. EVE not only takes your cookie, but laughs at you for bringing one in the first place...
You have a beautiful mind good sir. |
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Sprite Can
9
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Posted - 2012.02.09 16:59:00 -
[61] - Quote
Yep, that's kind of the point of EVE. Not sure what inclined you to believe otherwise. Refreshing Lemon-Lime~ |

KrakizBad
Eve Defence Force Fatal Ascension
345
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Posted - 2012.02.09 17:19:00 -
[62] - Quote
Nice catch!
Valei Khurelem wrote: This is why a large number of EVE players aren't bothering coming to the forums anymore Good, the fewer hisec nobodies who come to the forums means the fewer who pay attention to CSM and thus will be in for a pleasant surprise when the next round of hisec nerfs are announced.  http://i.imgur.com/cOmMP.gif |

Spyolz Rotsuda
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.02.09 17:28:00 -
[63] - Quote
This IS a PvP game, whether you like it or not, if not, get the **** out. Industry. mining, complex running etc, are all just ways of supporting the war and pvp effort. imo almost every PvE aspect of the game is focused on supporting your PvP efforts, of course there is place for everyone in the game, people do whatever they want, thats what an MMO is for, if you want to mine but you keep getting wardecced then stay in a NPC corp, as simple as that, even then you will prolly get suicide ganked, this is the way it is when you play a PvP game.
IF you dont like it, its just a matter of going back to the masses of 10 year olds of WoW where you get a huge cookie regardless if you won or not. EvE takes your cookie and laughs at you for bringing one. |

Borun Tal
Cubicle Warriors from 'merica
43
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Posted - 2012.02.09 17:32:00 -
[64] - Quote
Hey, OP, does your life suck so much that you have to resort to posting troll threads ("awsum"?) on game websites?
Check into that whole "life" thing, stat. |

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
950
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Posted - 2012.02.09 17:35:00 -
[65] - Quote
KrakizBad wrote:Nice catch! Valei Khurelem wrote: This is why a large number of EVE players aren't bothering coming to the forums anymore Good, the fewer hisec nobodies who come to the forums means the fewer who pay attention to CSM and thus will be in for a pleasant surprise when the next round of hisec nerfs are announced. 
Yeah, he beat me to it.
I'd like to give the OP troll points... but this one doesn't really make it all the way into the ranking system except possibly as an honorable mention.
Still... When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |

Skydell
Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums
146
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Posted - 2012.02.09 17:38:00 -
[66] - Quote
No, Op EVE is not forced PvP
It's forced PvE
Its the only way to make ISK. Most people who come expect to PvP but spend 90% of thier time grinding ISK.
You, in your defence, didn't get to do either. |

MadMuppet
Kerguelen Station
127
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Posted - 2012.02.09 17:56:00 -
[67] - Quote
Bischopt wrote:If it's wardecs you're worried about the solution is quite simple: 1) NPC corp that cannot be wardecced 2) a respectable corp that wont be wardecced because they're too much of a threat 3) grow some balls and fight back Quote:I wanted to be a miner - why can i not play how i want to?
4) Become mobile, taunt your attackers, discover that they don't want to work for their food. Ok, maybe not taunt them, that is probably why you are getting decced (for the tears),but don't let them get to you.
http://community.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=969783&page=2
^^^ When I was a young miner I had a similar problem (sorry for the horribly typos and crap, my posts start about 1/3 of the way down page 2). In the end I actually made a lot more isk from my adventure than had I stayed in a static location, I had a better infrastructure set up when I was done(two separate fleets), and we actually had a lot of people join the corp afterwards.
Otherwise, rotate corps to dodge decs. You have a couple alts, have them make a corp. When you get decced on one, go to the other. It'll cost you only 1.5 million isk per corp to create it. That way you can dodge missions taxes (my corp is just a tax shelter). Otherwise join an NPC corp again.
At this point you need to move out of your current area if you should want to stay, especially now that you are a tear target. If you do really leave, your cries will be lost in the sea of angry players you never understood what Eve was about and got mad that someone kicked over your sandcastle.
Why are my neocom icons so tiny? Oh, you can widen and narrow the bar. Cool.-á |

Lyron-Baktos
Selective Pressure Rote Kapelle
48
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Posted - 2012.02.09 18:04:00 -
[68] - Quote
Eve is like the wild wild west. Anything and everything goes. You don't have to PVP but you do have to protect your ****.
Look at it this way, if you go to the wrong part of St. Louis in a nice shiny car and start goofing off, you will be ganked in a heartbeat. On holiday. -áIn some other world. Where the music of the radio was a labyrinth of sonorous colours. To a bright centre of absolute convicton. -áWhere the dripping patchouli was more than scent. -á It was a sun |

Jas Dor
Republic University Minmatar Republic
47
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Posted - 2012.02.09 18:16:00 -
[69] - Quote
Repeat after me folks, CCP has a large PR problem they need to deal with. Also people leave the game when their player communities cease to exist. |

Alistair Cononach
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
120
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Posted - 2012.02.09 18:18:00 -
[70] - Quote
Lady Vella wrote:So
I started EvE Online a few months back. I was told by a friend who lives in deep null that it was an awsum game and since we both quit WoW when cata came out i thought hell ill try it
So...
Every corp i have joined has been war decced within 2-3 days of me joining it. What im told are griefer corps
I wanted to be a miner - why can i not play how i want to?
I am being forced into war and pvp
Im done
CCP your game is a pile of **** and ill be publicly slamming it on every website i am a member of
Pathetic
Probably a mistake, but will treat as non-troll....
1. A Hostile War-Dec does not cause your Mining Laser I's to no longer function. A few very basic precautions on your part, and you could have mined away the day in relative safety. First, go to a low-population, or better yet, an empty system. PLenty low-pop systems about. Undock, go mine, keep one eye on local for War Targets. If one enters the system, dock. If he camps you, either wait, or log for 5-10 min. Odds are, he'll get bored and move on. When you log back in, change systems (don;t be a target).
2. A War Dec does not force you into PvP. It merely allows PvP to occur in High-Sec between the parties. Your actions, or lack of actions, are what will lead to PvP or not.
3. If War Dec's are too much, remaining a member of the NPC Corp eliminates teh trheat of War Dec's and High-Sec War-related PvP.
4. EVE is built around there being no 100% safe existence, and even as a miner mining away the day, you're still PvP'ing. PvP'ing when you sell your minerals on the market. PvP'ing if you use your mins to build ships for sale or corporate use. PvP'ing when you mine a good roid some other miner may have wanted.
5. Not every game is for every player. Perhaps WoW, or similar no-risk, PvE-centric style MMO's are more your speed. No harm in that, to each their own. Because EVE may not be suited to your preferences, does not mean "slamming it on every forum" is a mature or approrpriate thing to do. Why rage? Just move on to something else, plenty of games in the world, and many let you "just mine" with no risk involved.
Best of luck if serious, diaf if troll. |
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sYnc Vir
Wolfsbrigade
147
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Posted - 2012.02.09 18:31:00 -
[71] - Quote
Bischopt wrote:If it's wardecs you're worried about the solution is quite simple: 1) NPC corp that cannot be wardecced 2) a respectable corp that wont be wardecced because they're too much of a threat 3) grow some balls and fight backQuote:I wanted to be a miner - why can i not play how i want to? You can. And so can everyone else, that's the whole point. Eve is a sandbox, unlike wow. CCP may not be perfect and they've made some pretty nasty mistakes, some of which are still fresh, but Eve as a whole is not one of them. You're the one with the problem, not CCP.
some people dont like fighting, what is it about that people dont get? Eve has mining for a reason, it actually isn't all bots you know. |

Chandaris
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
60
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Posted - 2012.02.09 18:33:00 -
[72] - Quote
OP is trolling, get a life. |

BuckStrider
Hardcore p0wnography Dark Knights of New Eden
6
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Posted - 2012.02.09 18:47:00 -
[73] - Quote
Lady Vella wrote:So
I started EvE Online a few months back. I was told by a friend who lives in deep null that it was an awsum game and since we both quit WoW when cata came out i thought hell ill try it
So...
Every corp i have joined has been war decced within 2-3 days of me joining it. What im told are griefer corps
I wanted to be a miner - why can i not play how i want to?
I am being forced into war and pvp
Im done
CCP your game is a pile of **** and ill be publicly slamming it on every website i am a member of
Pathetic
It's a good thing your quitting as it is clearly obvious that this game is just WAAAAY too advanced for you. WoW is clearly more of your intellegence level and you should stick to games such as that.
I hear Star Trek Online is looking for players...That's more your speed as well.
I'd say "Can I haz yer stuff" since you only played a few weeks you probably have **** anyway. |

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
951
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Posted - 2012.02.09 19:04:00 -
[74] - Quote
sYnc Vir wrote:Bischopt wrote:If it's wardecs you're worried about the solution is quite simple: 1) NPC corp that cannot be wardecced 2) a respectable corp that wont be wardecced because they're too much of a threat 3) grow some balls and fight backQuote:I wanted to be a miner - why can i not play how i want to? You can. And so can everyone else, that's the whole point. Eve is a sandbox, unlike wow. CCP may not be perfect and they've made some pretty nasty mistakes, some of which are still fresh, but Eve as a whole is not one of them. You're the one with the problem, not CCP. some people dont like fighting, what is it about that people dont get? Eve has mining for a reason, it actually isn't all bots you know.
In reality, the actual definition of mining in EVE is "procuring minerals from asteroids while avoiding hostile/pirate craft that wish to prevent them from doing so".
Regardless of how it is interpreted, this is how things actually work in game. You either come to terms wtih that, or you chose a profession that does not require undocking. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |

Meryl SinGarda
Belligerent Underpayed Tactical Team The Irukandji
329
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Posted - 2012.02.09 19:07:00 -
[75] - Quote
lol This is an open world, PVP game. Coming into the game thinking otherwise is your fault. Please enjoy your stay in World of Fruitycolors.
Fly Safe, Die Hard
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Lyron-Baktos
Selective Pressure Rote Kapelle
48
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Posted - 2012.02.09 19:07:00 -
[76] - Quote
I just don't get why people think a space game should have 100% safe spots. There are thousands of space movies out there and I would bet, 99% of them show that space is not safe On holiday. -áIn some other world. Where the music of the radio was a labyrinth of sonorous colours. To a bright centre of absolute convicton. -áWhere the dripping patchouli was more than scent. -á It was a sun |

Valei Khurelem
291
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Posted - 2012.02.09 19:09:00 -
[77] - Quote
Lyron-Baktos wrote:I just don't get why people think a space game should have 100% safe spots. There are thousands of space movies out there and I would bet, 99% of them show that space is not safe
The point isn't that space should be safe, that's what none of you get, the point is you get to attack people without any repercussions especially if people are playing the game in small gangs or solo and that's what pisses people off.
"don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP." -á - CCP Ytterbium |

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
951
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Posted - 2012.02.09 19:14:00 -
[78] - Quote
Valei Khurelem wrote:Lyron-Baktos wrote:I just don't get why people think a space game should have 100% safe spots. There are thousands of space movies out there and I would bet, 99% of them show that space is not safe The point isn't that space should be safe, that's what none of you get, the point is you get to attack people without any repercussions especially if people are playing the game in small gangs or solo and that's what pisses people off.
But there ARE repercussions... you just don't think they are severe enough.
Most people think that they ARE severe enough, especially if the most basic steps are taken to ensure that you do not become a victim.
Game mechanics should never prevent your ship from being destroyable if you insist on sitting in one spot, in a vulnerable ship, fitted purely for maximum profit, with no thought devoted to defense or evasion should you be attacked. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |

OldMan Gana
The Flaming Sideburn's Art of War Alliance
20
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Posted - 2012.02.09 19:18:00 -
[79] - Quote
4 pages too..... " I spent most of my money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered." -George Best-á |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
1211
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Posted - 2012.02.09 19:23:00 -
[80] - Quote
Ranger 1 wrote:KrakizBad wrote:Nice catch! Valei Khurelem wrote: This is why a large number of EVE players aren't bothering coming to the forums anymore Good, the fewer hisec nobodies who come to the forums means the fewer who pay attention to CSM and thus will be in for a pleasant surprise when the next round of hisec nerfs are announced.  Yeah, he beat me to it. I'd like to give the OP troll points... but this one doesn't really make it all the way into the ranking system except possibly as an honorable mention. Still...
The question is: Why?
Why would someone with an alt who is into PVP try a troll thread like this?
Is there some kind of disease going around? I try to find a reason to do something like this, based on some kind of reward, and can't think of any.
To fully understand the troll mind might be difficult, like trying to understand a pathological liar perhaps.
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arcca jeth
Dark Alliance Dark Empire Alliance
66
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Posted - 2012.02.09 19:28:00 -
[81] - Quote
Valei Khurelem wrote:You're going to get trolled :( Sorry to see you go, but I'm planning on buying PLEX with the ISK I make just so I can stick around here laughing at the PvPers as they kill their game.
and i plan on selling you the PLEX I make with RL money so you can grind it all for me |

Valei Khurelem
292
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Posted - 2012.02.09 19:34:00 -
[82] - Quote
oooo! How much do you want for it? :D
"don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP." -á - CCP Ytterbium |

Micheal Dietrich
Standards and Practices
39
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Posted - 2012.02.09 19:34:00 -
[83] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:KrakizBad wrote:Nice catch! Valei Khurelem wrote: This is why a large number of EVE players aren't bothering coming to the forums anymore Good, the fewer hisec nobodies who come to the forums means the fewer who pay attention to CSM and thus will be in for a pleasant surprise when the next round of hisec nerfs are announced.  Yeah, he beat me to it. I'd like to give the OP troll points... but this one doesn't really make it all the way into the ranking system except possibly as an honorable mention. Still... The question is: Why? Why would someone with an alt who is into PVP try a troll thread like this? Is there some kind of disease going around? I try to find a reason to do something like this, based on some kind of reward, and can't think of any. To fully understand the troll mind might be difficult, like trying to understand a pathological liar perhaps.
I believe the 4 pages of responses answers your question. OP knew that people would jump all over this and start reciting the Eve national Anthem "Eve Is Harsh". This was done for the lulz. |

Valei Khurelem
292
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Posted - 2012.02.09 19:40:00 -
[84] - Quote
Quote: I believe the 4 pages fo responses answers your question. OP knew that people would jump all over this and start reciting the Eve national Anthem "Eve Is Harsh". This was done for the lulz.
It is **** easy to troll these lot.
"don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP." -á - CCP Ytterbium |

Billionaire Carebear
University of Caille Gallente Federation
87
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Posted - 2012.02.09 19:54:00 -
[85] - Quote
Micheal Dietrich wrote:This was done for the lulz.
Null Sec = The Game Lulz Sec = The Forums
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letter_and_spirit_of_the_law
http://krypto451.deviantart.com/art/Care-Bears-Spanking-168001373
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kh0Uu1yD-v0 -áGeorge Carlin "They're Just Words." |

arcca jeth
Dark Alliance Dark Empire Alliance
66
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Posted - 2012.02.09 19:59:00 -
[86] - Quote
Fouljin wrote:
Here is how to survive null mining while in war and other stuff.
- Choose suitable roidbelt in the system your corp/aliance has a POS / station. - Use Hulk with tank! You need tank to repell those fat rats that spawn on belts. - Always, always keep aligned to station / pos for quick espace. - Have a corp mate / alt to do the hauling. - Train scanning skills and look for gravsite, even more safe as it takes a while for enemy so scan you down when they enter the system, if they even bother to do that, gives you more time to espace back to pos / station.
- Remember, in Eve things take time. There is NO shortcuts. Plan your skill training at least 6 months ahead, I prefer one year.
!
there's a little more to it then that....
Yes, have fun finding a hulk in 0.0 lol better be blue to SOV holding alliance with stations and a healthy market to pull that off. not to mention it take a month or so to train up to fly one...
and yes there ARE shortcuts in EVE for the impatient. Spend $200 on PLEX, redeem in JITA sell to market. then buy a character for sale using ISK (careful not to get scammed)....hell, you might only need $100 depending on the price of the character in ISK, either way, YES there are shortcuts.
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Doc Severide
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
30
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Posted - 2012.02.09 19:59:00 -
[87] - Quote
Valei Khurelem wrote:You're going to get trolled :( Sorry to see you go, but I'm planning on buying PLEX with the ISK I make just so I can stick around here laughing at the PvPers as they kill their game.
You found another likeminded sniveller....    |

Minabunny
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
14
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Posted - 2012.02.09 20:11:00 -
[88] - Quote
Stay in an NPC corp and you won't have to deal with wars. You can still get 'ganked' it's just not as often unless you venture down to low sec. If you want to fly in low sec just pay attention to local, make yourself a safe spot and keep aligned to it. Then get out of the area ASAP when someone hostile comes in the area. You can avoid most confrontations if you're prepared.
I've been an avid pvper since I started playing online RPGs in the 90's (AOL NWN). That being said as much as people like to say this is the best PvP game it's the only game I don't participate in PvP. I don't find the PvP here entertaining or rewarding. I could not care less about some 'kill mail' and I find attacking players that have no chance of fighting back cowardly. Fighting for territory I see as purposeful but staring at an overview screen and a bunch of red + signs just turns me off combine that with you don't even really 'fly' your ship. Blah Boring.
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Jhagiti Tyran
Muppet Ninja's Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
219
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Posted - 2012.02.09 20:12:00 -
[89] - Quote
Neither char actually seems to PvP though, at least there's no combat record around. Maybe the alt was just saying they are into PvP to get access to something or try to hide in a PvP corp to mine, its common enough.
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Micheal Dietrich
Standards and Practices
40
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Posted - 2012.02.09 20:14:00 -
[90] - Quote
Valei Khurelem wrote:Quote: I believe the 4 pages fo responses answers your question. OP knew that people would jump all over this and start reciting the Eve national Anthem "Eve Is Harsh". This was done for the lulz.
It is **** easy to troll these lot.
Ironically you were the first hit in this thread. |
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Valei Khurelem
292
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Posted - 2012.02.09 20:15:00 -
[91] - Quote
;D
"don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP." -á - CCP Ytterbium |

Micheal Dietrich
Standards and Practices
40
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Posted - 2012.02.09 20:27:00 -
[92] - Quote
Jhagiti Tyran wrote:Neither char actually seems to PvP though, at least there's no combat record around. Maybe the alt was just saying they are into PvP to get access to something or try to hide in a PvP corp to mine, its common enough.
They also claim to be an 03 but both characters were made in December of 11 from what I can tell. Either this is more elaborate than we think or it may be possible that the person had another toon from ages ago. Makes you curious why a supposed new player would purchase 2 accounts at 3 months each to start, doesn't it? |

Hainnz
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
82
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Posted - 2012.02.09 20:43:00 -
[93] - Quote
troll thread is troll |

Yahrr
The Tuskers
10
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Posted - 2012.02.09 21:02:00 -
[94] - Quote
Lady Vella wrote:So
I started EvE Online a few months back. I was told by a friend who lives in deep null that it was an awsum game and since we both quit WoW when cata came out i thought hell ill try it
So...
Every corp i have joined has been war decced within 2-3 days of me joining it. What im told are griefer corps
I wanted to be a miner - why can i not play how i want to?
I am being forced into war and pvp
Im done
CCP your game is a pile of **** and ill be publicly slamming it on every website i am a member of
Pathetic
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Conrad Makbure
Division One Security
7
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Posted - 2012.02.09 21:08:00 -
[95] - Quote
Lady Vella wrote:So
I started EvE Online a few months back. I was told by a friend who lives in deep null that it was an awsum game and since we both quit WoW when cata came out i thought hell ill try it
So...
Every corp i have joined has been war decced within 2-3 days of me joining it. What im told are griefer corps
I wanted to be a miner - why can i not play how i want to?
I am being forced into war and pvp
Im done
CCP your game is a pile of **** and ill be publicly slamming it on every website i am a member of
Pathetic
I sent you an in game mail, take a look at it and reply, please. |

Ai Shun
252
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Posted - 2012.02.09 21:13:00 -
[96] - Quote
Micheal Dietrich wrote:Jhagiti Tyran wrote:Neither char actually seems to PvP though, at least there's no combat record around. Maybe the alt was just saying they are into PvP to get access to something or try to hide in a PvP corp to mine, its common enough. They also claim to be an 03 but both characters were made in December of 11 from what I can tell. Either this is more elaborate than we think or it may be possible that the person had another toon from ages ago. Makes you curious why a supposed new player would purchase 2 accounts at 3 months each to start, doesn't it?
It was explained in one of the posts you linked to. The player alleged their accounts were compromised by ISK sellers and banned.
P.S. Good catch. All the replies show how many people never made it to page 3 before replying  |

Fredfredbug4
Kings of Kill EVE Animal Control
38
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Posted - 2012.02.09 21:21:00 -
[97] - Quote
Everything you do in EVE is PVP, not always the life or death kind but you will always be competing with other players.
Even mining involves PVP. You are competing with the other miners to get the best ore and as much of it as possible. |

Eve Is Real
2
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Posted - 2012.02.09 21:21:00 -
[98] - Quote
OP has misunderstood something, EVE IS REAL Experience and reason for CSM7 |

Spenser for Hire
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2012.02.09 21:49:00 -
[99] - Quote
Serge Bastana wrote:So you came from WoW expecting to be wrapped in cotton wool like you were there, sorry to disappoint, but that's not how it works here. This is a game for people who don't need their hand held when they cross the road. And if all you wanted to do was mine then you're missing out on the best part of the game.
It may sound harsh but it's a much different game, you've expressed you're opinion and you're free to, but this is how the game is, it won't change because you've come here expecting minecraft or whatever you thought it would be like.
And we aren't trolling you either, despite what Valei Khurelem claims, we're simply telling you like it is. If you don't like the truth then hope you find the game you're looking for. Good luck.
If I said it once, I've said it a thousand times: The Sandbox is Overrun by Bullies.
EVE is advertised as a "Sandbox", you know, a game where you can do whatever you want to do. Like Mine.
The quoted post is pure bullying, at its worst. You can almost see his index and middle finger repeatedly stabbing into the shoulder of the Original Poster as he says: "Oh Yeah? Well this is how EVE is! Ya got it! Ya play how we want ya to, not how you want to. Ya get it?!" |

Ai Shun
253
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Posted - 2012.02.09 22:00:00 -
[100] - Quote
Spenser for Hire wrote:EVE is advertised as a "Sandbox", you know, a game where you can do whatever you want to do. Like Mine.
And you can. So where is the problem?
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Billionaire Carebear
University of Caille Gallente Federation
88
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Posted - 2012.02.09 22:12:00 -
[101] - Quote
I mine, a lot. In a Navy Issue Battleship with a squad of Ogre's and a couple Invulnerability Fields. My only death has been in 0.2 space, so I stick to 0.5 or above and nobody bothers me.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letter_and_spirit_of_the_law http://krypto451.deviantart.com/art/Care-Bears-Spanking-168001373 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kh0Uu1yD-v0 -áGeorge Carlin "They're Just Words." |

Spenser for Hire
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
5
|
Posted - 2012.02.09 22:13:00 -
[102] - Quote
Ai Shun wrote:Spenser for Hire wrote:EVE is advertised as a "Sandbox", you know, a game where you can do whatever you want to do. Like Mine. And you can. So where is the problem? I don't have a problem. I Care Bear. I avoid player-run Corps like the plague. The only reason they exist, (player Corps) is to provide War-Dec-able victims to the Blood-thristy savages who prayed to the Internet-Gods and were given spaceships.
I think it was the Original Poster, who came to EVE to mine and build and enjoy the Sandbox, and was forced to PvP, no doubt at a severe disadvantage, just the way all the great Pvpers of EVE like it. An EVE PvPers favorite target is ship without Tank and Without Weapons. Witness all the space-ship-savages crying; When's Hulkageddon start? When's Hulkageddon start?! When's Hulkageddon start?! |

Ai Shun
253
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Posted - 2012.02.09 22:18:00 -
[103] - Quote
Spenser for Hire wrote:I think it was the Original Poster, who came to EVE to mine and build and enjoy the Sandbox, and was forced to PvP, no doubt at a severe disadvantage, just the way all the great Pvpers of EVE like it.
Again, what stopped the OP from mining? He could do it.
P.S. The OP is a PvPer that is busy trolling you badly; read that second to last and last link from Micheal Dietrich.
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Pillowtalk
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
32
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Posted - 2012.02.09 22:29:00 -
[104] - Quote
Bischopt wrote: but Eve as a whole is not one of them. You're the one with the problem, not CCP.
But he/she is the one with the 15 dollars a month, and CCP is the one that just laid off 20% of their work force.
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Ai Shun
253
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Posted - 2012.02.09 22:35:00 -
[105] - Quote
Pillowtalk wrote:But he/she is the one with the 15 dollars a month, and CCP is the one that just laid off 20% of their work force.
You are right. CCP should immediately start working on unicorns, mini-pets and epic raids with loot pinatas. That way they can compete in a different market and make squillions; just like RIFT and the other clones!
Why didn't they think of that?
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Pillowtalk
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
32
|
Posted - 2012.02.09 22:37:00 -
[106] - Quote
Ai Shun wrote:Pillowtalk wrote:But he/she is the one with the 15 dollars a month, and CCP is the one that just laid off 20% of their work force.
You are right. CCP should immediately start working on unicorns, mini-pets and epic raids with loot pinatas. That way they can compete in a different market and make squillions; just like RIFT and the other clones! Why didn't they think of that?
http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility
Look at the bottom. They sure as hell better start doing something!
If you're running a business you sure as hell don't want any of your stat charts to look like that. |

Diomedes Calypso
Aetolian Armada
67
|
Posted - 2012.02.09 22:39:00 -
[107] - Quote
Just look at gankers as wickedly tricky NPC's or perhaps some cosmic arrawy that will wipe out your ship now and then if you don't remain eternally vigalente and even there get a bad break sometimes.
If you don't like the idea of random risk this game isn't for you, you want a game where the only possible way is forward progress (and it pretty much still is here unless you're completely pig headed about doing things where you want as opposed to moving around to avoid danger)
If getting killed by a player is so much worse than getting killed by an NPC... gotta work on your self esteem a bit. Letting an A-hole rattle you says as much about your self as about him. |

Ai Shun
253
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Posted - 2012.02.09 22:40:00 -
[108] - Quote
Pillowtalk wrote:http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility
Look at the bottom. They sure as hell better start doing something!
If you're running a business you sure as hell don't want any of your stat charts to look like that.
You do realise that 2006 is to the right in that graph? So the numbers are a bit down from the 2011 peak. But that is primarily because of the whole Incarna debacle when they stopped listening to their core gaming demographic and pandered to lord alone knows what. |

arcca jeth
Dark Alliance Dark Empire Alliance
68
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Posted - 2012.02.09 22:41:00 -
[109] - Quote
gawd people read the full thread and quit replying already. this troll has already been ousted, OP has a PVP alt lol so stop it already! your feeding him lol |

Pillowtalk
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
32
|
Posted - 2012.02.09 22:41:00 -
[110] - Quote
Ai Shun wrote:Pillowtalk wrote:http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility
Look at the bottom. They sure as hell better start doing something!
If you're running a business you sure as hell don't want any of your stat charts to look like that. You do realise that 2006 is to the right in that graph? So the numbers are a bit down from the 2011 peak. But that is primarily because of the whole Incarna debacle when they stopped listening to their core gaming demographic and pandered to lord alone knows what.
Ok, look at the past year. Negative growth. Still bad.
And there is also this thing called inflation that is always in effect. But please, keep saying to players that leave "HAHA you suck can I have your stuff!".
Because after all servers don't cost money or anything.
Also do you know what was at the root of the incarna debacle? THEY WERE TRYING TO MAKE MORE MONEY BY SELLING IN GAME ITEMS! And you didn't like that did you? Well if you "hard core" PvP types would chill the hell out with your cutt throat attitudes toward everyone else maybe the game would attract more players and they wouldn't have to try selling 80 dollar monocles to keep their game afloat. |
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Lyrrashae
Crushed Ambitions Reckless Ambition
204
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Posted - 2012.02.09 22:42:00 -
[111] - Quote
Bel Amar wrote:Lady Vella wrote:CCP your game is a pile of **** and ill be publicly slamming it on every website i am a member of
Pathetic You keep spamming how it's a game that doesn't protect people from themselves, how it's everyone vs everyone, and you have to be on your toes all the time, and you'll be a big walking advertisement to the people who are going to "get" EVE when they give it a try So keep at it! :)
^^This^^
CCP will thank you for the good press, I'm sure!
I can haz ur stuffs?
Think of me as the Jester to your King Lear: Because annoying you is more fun than politicking with you. Because your predictable outrage makes you even more fun to play with. Because forum PvP = best PvP. Come to me, little puppet! |

Ai Shun
253
|
Posted - 2012.02.09 22:46:00 -
[112] - Quote
Pillowtalk wrote:Ok, look at the past year. Negative growth. Still bad.
And there is also this thing called inflation that is always in effect. But please, keep saying to players that leave "HAHA you suck can I have your stuff!".
Because after all servers don't cost money or anything.
2010-01-23 - 35,647 2011-01-19 - 36,862 2012-01-22 - 35,493
You don't really have enough data for 2012 to say anything about what this year will be like. The current position is about the same.
Keep in mind they did what you are suggesting - tried to change their core demographic and focus of the game - lost a number of core players thanks to that; hence the dip in 2011 on average.
You do not "fix" EVE and the population by ******* over the existing customer base to pander to some imaginary demographic that may or may not be suited to the game.
That way lies disaster as we have seen.
Pillowtalk wrote:Also do you know what was at the root of the incarna debacle? THEY WERE TRYING TO MAKE MORE MONEY BY SELLING IN GAME ITEMS! And you didn't like that did you? Well if you "hard core" PvP types would chill the hell out with your cutt throat attitudes toward everyone else maybe the game would attract more players and they wouldn't have to try selling 80 dollar monocles to keep their game afloat.
Go look at my Killboard knuckfuckle. Oh right, it's empty. I enjoy PvP on the marketplace, the production areas and try to mitigate my risks while flying my ships. I'm one of the players that enjoy EVE for the concept of risk and reward.
This game is NOT risk free PvE. It is an open world that allows anyone to try their chosen gamestyle as long as they accept the risks involved. You cannot change that without changing the game.
The people you call "hard core" PvP types understand that; because they realise that everything you do in EVE from mission running to Incursions to hauling to mining to combat are all PVP activities! |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
78
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Posted - 2012.02.09 22:47:00 -
[113] - Quote
Ai Shun wrote: epic raids with loot pinatas. Man, did you hear about that last op we went on with a large scarlet spaceship? There were some serious loot pinatas to be had.
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Nicolo da'Vicenza
Divine Power. Cascade Imminent
341
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Posted - 2012.02.09 22:49:00 -
[114] - Quote
Yeah, new players in new highsec player corps get stomped because all of the fat carebears either hide behind dec shields or npc corps (ban both btw) |

Lyrrashae
Crushed Ambitions Reckless Ambition
204
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Posted - 2012.02.09 22:49:00 -
[115] - Quote
Ai Shun wrote:Spenser for Hire wrote:I think it was the Original Poster, who came to EVE to mine and build and enjoy the Sandbox, and was forced to PvP, no doubt at a severe disadvantage, just the way all the great Pvpers of EVE like it. Again, what stopped the OP from mining? He could do it. P.S. The OP is a PvPer that is busy trolling you badly; read that second to last and last link from Micheal Dietrich.
Waitaminnit, does that mean that I can't haz its' stuffs?
[/sadface] Damn... Think of me as the Jester to your King Lear: Because annoying you is more fun than politicking with you. Because your predictable outrage makes you even more fun to play with. Because forum PvP = best PvP. Come to me, little puppet! |

Lexmana
Imperial Stout
199
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Posted - 2012.02.09 22:49:00 -
[116] - Quote
Pillowtalk wrote:Ai Shun wrote:Pillowtalk wrote:http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility
Look at the bottom. They sure as hell better start doing something!
If you're running a business you sure as hell don't want any of your stat charts to look like that. You do realise that 2006 is to the right in that graph? So the numbers are a bit down from the 2011 peak. But that is primarily because of the whole Incarna debacle when they stopped listening to their core gaming demographic and pandered to lord alone knows what. Ok, look at the past year. Negative growth. Still bad. And there is also this thing called inflation that is always in effect. But please, keep saying to players that leave "HAHA you suck can I have your stuff!". Because after all servers don't cost money or anything.
Look at last quarter. Not too bad.
And you know when interpreting that graph you need to take seasonal variation into account. The fact is EvE has been doing quite well by growing every year since launch up and until Incarna and is now starting to take back what it lost last year.
But I guess you are one of these "EvE is dying" persons that don't like facts. |

Pillowtalk
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
32
|
Posted - 2012.02.09 22:50:00 -
[117] - Quote
Ai Shun wrote:
You don't really have enough data for 2012 to say anything about what this year will be like. The current position is about the same.
Look there is no growth. There just isn't. Look at the yearly graph. You can't argue with the numbers.
Thats still not a bright outlook no matter how you wanna twist it.
And I will say it again, you guys were pissed when they tried selling 80 dollar monocles. Well why not just let them make some areas of high sec safe to bring in some more players so they don't have to try to sell monocles to make money? Whats the issue? In time that just means more players for you to blow up. |

Ai Shun
253
|
Posted - 2012.02.09 22:51:00 -
[118] - Quote
Lyrrashae wrote:Waitaminnit, does that mean that I can't haz its' stuffs?
Crushed Ambitions seems somehow appropriate now.
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FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks Petition Blizzard
873
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Posted - 2012.02.09 22:52:00 -
[119] - Quote
I wouldn't so much say "forced" PVP as "everpresent" PVP. Anything you do in Eve can have an aspect of PVP to it. I've seen miners bicker because one kept mining the same asteroids as the other, causing him to waste cycles. Industrialists and traders compete in the market. Explorers race one another for faction loot. About the only place that is PVP free is running missions, and even there other people can steal your loot.
I'd suggest you look at being more than "just a miner". Personally I don't care for it --and yes I've mined, I can fly a hulk--but it's a part of the game and I'm not going to tell you to not do it. What makes Eve unique and fun for those of us who stick with it is that we can have such an impact on those around us. Look beyond mining: try research, manufacturing, combat, exploration...experiment with different occupations and see if anything grabs your interest before you write it off because you're having trouble making one part of the game work out.
Honestly, mining sucks anyway. You'd burn out in six months of mining safely. |

Ai Shun
253
|
Posted - 2012.02.09 22:54:00 -
[120] - Quote
Pillowtalk wrote:Look there is no growth. There just isn't. Look at the yearly graph. You can't argue with the numbers.
Thats still not a bright outlook no matter how you wanna twist it.
You edit your posts very fast 
Your previous comment made mention of world inflation, etc. without considering that infrastructure is depreciated, capital outlay is recovered and profit margins increase per subscription while base costs per subscriptions do not substantially increase. Then, you do not consider the recent re-focus on FiS and how that will impact this years' revenue and are choosing to focus on one small slice in isolation.
All in all, I don't think your analytical skills are worth the pixels you spent to render them.
This game is NOT risk free PvE. It is an open world that allows anyone to try their chosen gamestyle as long as they accept the risks involved. You cannot change that without changing the game.
The people you call "hard core" PvP types understand that; because they realise that everything you do in EVE from mission running to Incursions to hauling to mining to combat are all PVP activities!
Edit: Because it appears the post I was replying to was edited again?
Pillowtalk wrote:So you admit there has been no growth, CCP has not raised their prices, and world inflation is still in effect.
Thats still not a bright outlook no matter how you wanna twist it. |
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Skydell
Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums
146
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Posted - 2012.02.09 22:57:00 -
[121] - Quote
6 pages of people justifying to themselves why they stay, one OP who figured out it's all crack. Jelly of the OP me thinks.
GL, OP. |

who shat themselves
Hedion University Amarr Empire
18
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Posted - 2012.02.09 22:57:00 -
[122] - Quote
Lady Vella wrote:So
I started EvE Online a few months back. I was told by a friend who lives in deep null that it was an awsum game and since we both quit WoW when cata came out i thought hell ill try it
So...
Every corp i have joined has been war decced within 2-3 days of me joining it. What im told are griefer corps
I wanted to be a miner - why can i not play how i want to?
I am being forced into war and pvp
Im done
CCP your game is a pile of **** and ill be publicly slamming it on every website i am a member of
Pathetic bye(: |

Dex Thunakar
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.02.13 09:04:00 -
[123] - Quote
Lady Vella wrote:So
I started EvE Online a few months back. I was told by a friend who lives in deep null that it was an awsum game and since we both quit WoW when cata came out i thought hell ill try it
So...
Every corp i have joined has been war decced within 2-3 days of me joining it. What im told are griefer corps
I wanted to be a miner - why can i not play how i want to?
I am being forced into war and pvp
Im done
CCP your game is a pile of **** and ill be publicly slamming it on every website i am a member of
Pathetic
LOL..... so don't join a corp? Lmfao... your arguments are invalid. Go join some other carebear game like wow then if you don't want to play a real game ;p It's people like you (and the day that Trammel was introduced to UO) that ruined most MMOs. |

Lady Vella
Tribal Spirit The Nest Alliance
3
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Posted - 2012.02.13 09:21:00 -
[124] - Quote
wow, 7 pages of pure
Hate Sarcasm More hate
Quite disgusting behvaiour really
Just a bunch of internet keyboard warriors.
I actually feel deeply saddend that you feel the need to act this way on the internet because your lives are that empty.
Well, i would say grow up, but i think it's 98% likeley you are adults already which id class as even more disturbing.
Im going to go out now with the wife and kids and off to the *real world*, you may have heard of it.
Really feel quite sick over the 7 pages i have read. |

Krixtal Icefluxor
Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd
313
|
Posted - 2012.02.13 12:10:00 -
[125] - Quote
Hayley Endymion wrote:
Calling people childish for pvping for "no rhyme or reason" in an MMO that is so utterly and completely focused on players interacting and fighting each other?
Sorry, what?
Sorry, what ?????????? I call BS, as usual . OMG He Spent His Free-áAURUM ! God is simply-áthe very extraordinary power of the Universe to organize Itself as percieved. -á-á- Lee Smolin "Three Roads to Quantum Gravity" |

Cebraio
Starfire Oasis
19
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Posted - 2012.02.13 13:01:00 -
[126] - Quote
Lady Vella wrote:Lock This thread - shame on your ccp for allowing this to end this way - 7 pages of hate Haha Maybe you shouldn't have started it with:
Lady Vella wrote:CCP your game is a pile of **** and ill be publicly slamming it on every website i am a member of
Pathetic
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baltec1
595
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Posted - 2012.02.13 13:30:00 -
[127] - Quote
Starts thread with hate, gets bitter when it ends in hate |

Asuri Kinnes
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
243
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Posted - 2012.02.13 13:31:00 -
[128] - Quote
Cebraio wrote:Lady Vella wrote:Lock This thread - shame on your ccp for allowing this to end this way - 7 pages of hate Haha  Maybe you shouldn't have started it with: Lady Vella wrote:CCP your game is a pile of **** and ill be publicly slamming it on every website i am a member of
Pathetic That can't *possibly* be the reason!
Why... That's UNREASONABLE!
Wormholes: The *NEW* end game of Eve - Online: No Local. No Lag. No Blues (No Intell Channesl). No Blobs.
NEW FEATURE: NO INCARNA! |

Buruk Utama
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
89
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Posted - 2012.02.13 13:50:00 -
[129] - Quote
Lady Vella wrote:wow, 7 pages of pure
Hate Sarcasm More hate
Quite disgusting behvaiour really
Just a bunch of internet keyboard warriors.
I actually feel deeply saddend that you feel the need to act this way on the internet because your lives are that empty.
Well, i would say grow up, but i think it's 98% likeley you are adults already which id class as even more disturbing.
Im going to go out now with the wife and kids and off to the *real world*, you may have heard of it.
Really feel quite sick over the 7 pages i have read.
Stick around and read the rest of GD forums and also C&P; you'll find that 95% of the posters there do just spew vitriol and hate to everyone who doesn't play the game exactly how they want them to play it. |

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
959
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Posted - 2012.02.13 14:18:00 -
[130] - Quote
Buruk Utama wrote:Lady Vella wrote:wow, 7 pages of pure
Hate Sarcasm More hate
Quite disgusting behvaiour really
Just a bunch of internet keyboard warriors.
I actually feel deeply saddend that you feel the need to act this way on the internet because your lives are that empty.
Well, i would say grow up, but i think it's 98% likeley you are adults already which id class as even more disturbing.
Im going to go out now with the wife and kids and off to the *real world*, you may have heard of it.
Really feel quite sick over the 7 pages i have read. Stick around and read the rest of GD forums and also C&P; you'll find that 95% of the posters there do just spew vitriol and hate to everyone who doesn't play the game exactly how they want them to play it.
Quite true. However in this case it is well deserved. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
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Trainwreck McGee
Ghost Ship Inc.
216
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Posted - 2012.02.13 15:04:00 -
[131] - Quote
hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
* drops a couple of tears in his glass of 12 year old macallan and sips with a smirk on his face and says "this thread delivers" CCP Trainwreck - Weekend Custodial Engineer / CCP Necrogoats foot stool |

Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
7317
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Posted - 2012.02.13 17:18:00 -
[132] - Quote
Lady Vella wrote:wow, 7 pages of pure
Hate Sarcasm More hate
Quite disgusting behvaiour really
Just a bunch of internet keyboard warriors.
I actually feel deeply saddend that you feel the need to act this way on the internet because your lives are that empty.
Well, i would say grow up, but i think it's 98% likeley you are adults already which id class as even more disturbing.
Im going to go out now with the wife and kids and off to the *real world*, you may have heard of it.
Really feel quite sick over the 7 pages i have read. I actually had doubts this was a troll thread at first. It was touch and go though.
Now you're trying too hard and it's got troll written all over it.
Good going though. 8/10
CCP Zulu..... Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |

Micheal Dietrich
Standards and Practices
57
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Posted - 2012.02.13 17:33:00 -
[133] - Quote
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lk8j6qmj7K1qzu5wc.gif |

Wacktopia
Noir.
170
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Posted - 2012.02.13 17:36:00 -
[134] - Quote
Lady Vella wrote:So......I was told by a friend.....I am......Pathetic
Why not post something more constructive than a rant and a threat? Vote Alekseyev Karrde for CSM7. -áhttps://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=67574 Get War Decs, Sov, Low Sec that works.-á |

Aiwha
101st Space Marine Force Nulli Secunda
131
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Posted - 2012.02.13 17:44:00 -
[135] - Quote
Buruk Utama wrote:Lady Vella wrote:wow, 7 pages of pure
Hate Sarcasm More hate
Quite disgusting behvaiour really
Just a bunch of internet keyboard warriors.
I actually feel deeply saddend that you feel the need to act this way on the internet because your lives are that empty.
Well, i would say grow up, but i think it's 98% likeley you are adults already which id class as even more disturbing.
Im going to go out now with the wife and kids and off to the *real world*, you may have heard of it.
Really feel quite sick over the 7 pages i have read. Stick around and read the rest of GD forums and also C&P; you'll find that 95% of the posters there do just spew vitriol and hate to everyone who doesn't play the game exactly how they want them to play it.
Finally somebody understands what the forums are for. Regards,
LCpl. Aiwha-á Senior Recruiter |

Mrs Sooperdudespaceman
Loud On The Forums Silent In Game
60
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Posted - 2012.02.13 17:54:00 -
[136] - Quote
So many people fell for this. 8/10
and shame on you to the people who bit. |

Serge Bastana
GWA Corp
164
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Posted - 2012.02.13 23:56:00 -
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Mrs Sooperdudespaceman wrote:So many people fell for this. 8/10
and shame on you to the people who bit.
Easier to assume the OP is a genuine cry baby than a fake one. They're everywhere these days. WoW holds your hand until end game, and gives you a cookie whether you win or lose. EVE not only takes your cookie, but laughs at you for bringing one in the first place... |

Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3112
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Posted - 2012.02.14 00:22:00 -
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every ore you mine is one bullet you supply to my enemies.
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Serene Repose
Perkone Caldari State
243
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Posted - 2012.02.14 00:30:00 -
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Liam Mirren wrote:EVE is a marmite game; some like it, many don't. The ones that do like it are loyal customers and thus the product is viable and successful. You don't HAVE to like marmite, it's ok if you don't but you also don't have to go screaming and stamping your foot about how much you dislike it. Bye. I hate Marmite. It's so disgusting looking I never stuck it in my mouth. (Don't go flaming me about what I HAVE stuck in my mouth. You should be so lucky.) Marmite is so bad, the manufacturers of it should be flogged...daily....indefinitely. Everyone knows it's nothing like Veg-a-mite, the only true spread. Take it from a peanut butter lover.
Smokestack lightnin' shinin' just like gold. |

foxnod
BOAE INC GIANTSBANE.
29
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Posted - 2012.02.14 00:39:00 -
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Valei Khurelem wrote:You're going to get trolled :( Sorry to see you go, but I'm planning on buying PLEX with the ISK I make just so I can stick around here laughing at the PvPers as they kill their game.
That'll really show us. Oh wait.....CCP actually makes more money from plexes than they do from paying accounts. |
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foxnod
BOAE INC GIANTSBANE.
29
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Posted - 2012.02.14 00:44:00 -
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Captain Torgo wrote:You probably got wardec'ed so many times because you or members of your corp mouthed off or acted a fool to the wrong people (as wowtards are often prone to do). You get away with it in wow all the time because other players have no recourse except to put you on ignore.
In eve, players have a lot of options to choose from when dealing with wowtards. The preferred method for dealing with obnoxious morons is PvP and eve has lots if it.
Judging by your attitude and behavior, I'm guessing eve is not the first game you've emo rage quit from. When there's a reoccurring theme like that, it means you can't cut it anywhere else in the gaming world. You are the lowest common denominator that naturally trickled down into the bilge that is wow.
Quoted for truth. In eve you better be able to cash that check you wrote with your mouth. WOWtards are unable to comprehend this fact.
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Ai Shun
264
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Posted - 2012.02.14 01:39:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Hayley Endymion wrote:
Calling people childish for pvping for "no rhyme or reason" in an MMO that is so utterly and completely focused on players interacting and fighting each other?
Sorry, what?
Sorry, what ?????????? I call BS, as usual .
Why? Which part of EVE requires no competition with other players apart from spinning your ship to see a counter go up?
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Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
573
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Posted - 2012.02.14 04:32:00 -
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Lady Vella wrote:wow, 7 pages of pure
Hate Sarcasm More hate . You started the thread with hate, what the hell do you expect? |

Tiberius Sunstealer
Phantom Soulreavers Axiom Solaris
116
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Posted - 2012.02.14 06:51:00 -
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Lady Vella wrote:Im going to go out now with the wife and kids and off to the *real world*, you may have heard of it. Who are you trying to convince; us or yourself? |

Ris Dnalor
Black Rebel Rifter Club
207
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Posted - 2012.02.14 07:04:00 -
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Lady Vella wrote:
why can i not play how i want to?
You can.
The beauty of eve is that OTHER people can play how they want to as well.
The glory of EVE is that if one person's desired play interferes with another's desired play....
They both get to deal with that how they want to
looks like you want to deal with it by whining and quitting.
that's allowed too.

Save the Miners! |

Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1334
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Posted - 2012.02.14 07:11:00 -
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Ai Shun wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Hayley Endymion wrote:
Calling people childish for pvping for "no rhyme or reason" in an MMO that is so utterly and completely focused on players interacting and fighting each other?
Sorry, what?
Sorry, what ?????????? I call BS, as usual . Why? Which part of EVE requires no competition with other players apart from spinning your ship to see a counter go up?
flying in pod across the universe for no purpose at all .. is similar to spinning the ship in hangar.. both dont have purpose.. therefore are void of any competition.. |

Ai Shun
264
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Posted - 2012.02.14 08:23:00 -
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Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:Ai Shun wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Hayley Endymion wrote:
Calling people childish for pvping for "no rhyme or reason" in an MMO that is so utterly and completely focused on players interacting and fighting each other?
Sorry, what?
Sorry, what ?????????? I call BS, as usual . Why? Which part of EVE requires no competition with other players apart from spinning your ship to see a counter go up? flying in pod across the universe for no purpose at all .. is similar to spinning the ship in hangar.. both dont have purpose.. therefore are void of any competition..
Pod is bait. Pod is a target. I'd be hitting it. |

Bischopt
Ice Fire Warriors Late Night Alliance
70
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Posted - 2012.02.14 09:59:00 -
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Lady Vella wrote:wow, 7 pages of pure
Hate Sarcasm More hate
Quite disgusting behvaiour really
Just a bunch of internet keyboard warriors.
I actually feel deeply saddend that you feel the need to act this way on the internet because your lives are that empty.
Well, i would say grow up, but i think it's 98% likeley you are adults already which id class as even more disturbing.
Im going to go out now with the wife and kids and off to the *real world*, you may have heard of it.
Really feel quite sick over the 7 pages i have read.
The first hateful post in this thread was yours.
And this post I'm quoting is way more hateful than the stuff anybody else has written here. But hey, you're probably just a troll anyway right. You're just giving everyone a good laugh.
Anyway, blaming others for the same mistakes you've made (and are still making) while making empty assumptions about people without anything to back it up, just to be offensive? Yeah, you're obviously much better than everyone else, oh good lady vella. |

TheGunslinger42
Bite me inc. Exhale.
16
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Posted - 2012.02.14 11:13:00 -
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Valei Khurelem wrote:Lyron-Baktos wrote:I just don't get why people think a space game should have 100% safe spots. There are thousands of space movies out there and I would bet, 99% of them show that space is not safe The point isn't that space should be safe, that's what none of you get, the point is you get to attack people without any repercussions especially if people are playing the game in small gangs or solo and that's what pisses people off.
There are repercussions. War deccing costs money. Ammo costs money. Ganking trashes your sec status which can prevent you moving around hisec. You put yourself in a position where others can retaliate (war targets, kill rights, anyone else in low/null/wspace with you). Etc.
Do the wowbears not understand how EVE works at all? |
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