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Rhaegor Stormborn
Volition Cult
The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2008.01.10 22:13:00 -
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/mourn Garthagk
The best dev we have seen in a while.
Rhaegor Stormborn
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Skaz
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.01.10 22:21:00 -
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Edited by: Skaz on 10/01/2008 22:22:20
API using apps for the win! Garthagk to be raised to sainthood!
Speaking on dev leaving and changing posts, completely off topic though what IS Kieron's title now? Wrangler is wranglin' us community types so what are you doing? And no mystic replies I'm only 360km's from Reykjavfk so....
Edit: for Boldness....
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DrAtomic
Atomic Heroes
Phalanx Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.10 23:40:00 -
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/signed
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 Originally by: CCP Wrangler
If you can understand our goal, disagree with our solution and offer a solution that is equal or better your opinion has a better chance of being heard...
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EBANK Ricdic
Eve-Tech Savings n Loans
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Posted - 2008.01.11 09:32:00 -
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As founder of EBANK I want to thank the minds behind both the idea of the API and it's integration. The API is paramount on the success of EBANK, one of the largest public financial institutions in Eve to date. Removal of this would be devastating. Enhancements aren't necessarily a requirement, but it's continual existence would suffice.
This post is more to say a huge thank you to CCP for it's implementation. We here at EBANK have dealt with over 150 billion isk worth of funds over the past 3 months all through the API, and have almost 600 users of our service. None of this would have been possible without you guys.
To CCP/Players have a look here to see the effect the API integration has had on making EBANK the service it is today.
Kindest Regards,
EBANK Ricdic
Founder of EBANK
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Captain Thunk
Captain Morgan Society
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Posted - 2008.01.11 10:14:00 -
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Originally by: DeTox MinRohim
Originally by: Captain Thunk
The API now returns loss mails. There are still outstanding bugs though - for example Alliance names sometimes returns the call not the result - this can dealt with by loading the Alliance API and comparing the alliance ID with the alliance name from there - although this obviously isn't ideal. Also for some reason the first attackers security status is given as 0 no matter what it actually is, though I doubt this matters much for killboards as few actually record it.
But this is what the OP means I guess, no mention was ever made that the lossmails are now returning, it just happened one day 
Thunk!
I still don't have the losses... Make sure that what you see is not friendly fire as those are showing in the kills. (Member asking for a podkill for example).
I did a specific test last week or the week before with a valid loss - it definately parsed through correctly from the API. What I'm not sure about is whether I was pulling Corp mails or personal mails at the time. So either it was working properly briefly or it only works atm when pulling in personal mails. But this small anecdote serves to underscore the OPs main point.
Looking forward to the results of Kierons inquiries.
THUNK!
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Jesum
Amarr
Warmongers
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Posted - 2008.01.11 11:14:00 -
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Originally by: CCP kieron
I've contacted staff about the API situation and am waiting for a response that should be forthcoming soon.
<3
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Ydnari
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Posted - 2008.01.11 13:02:00 -
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/signed and hoping the response is good
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Wacoede
Amarr
Allied Combat Team
Endless Horizon
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Posted - 2008.01.11 13:31:00 -
[38]
Originally by: Skaz
Edited by: Skaz on 10/01/2008 22:22:20
...And no mystic replies I'm only 360km's from Reykjavfk so....
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well your well outside lock range then :P in fact your over 100Km off grid :P
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Originally by: Avery Fatwallet
when someone sez "eve is too tuff"
standard reply is "can i have stuff?"
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Jameroz
Art of War
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Posted - 2008.01.11 13:40:00 -
[39]
Originally by: Skaz
Speaking on dev leaving and changing posts, completely off topic though what IS Kieron's title now? Wrangler is wranglin' us community types so what are you doing? And no mystic replies I'm only 360km's from Reykjavfk so....
Too bad Kieron lives in the US. 
My thanks go to Kieron for making something happen regarding this thread.
Damn engineer types don't thread the forums enough. 
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DeTox MinRohim
Madhatters Inc.
Enuma Elish.
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Posted - 2008.01.12 00:50:00 -
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API skillsheet is broken since last Downtime... or last fix in the DB... dunno...
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Memkani
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Posted - 2008.01.12 21:46:00 -
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I could probably say if the API dies I will no longer subscribe to Eve Online.
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Shevar
Minmatar
A.W.M
Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2008.01.14 15:48:00 -
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2 weeks passed since the orginal request was posted. http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=672827
I for one hope for a good continuation of the development of the api. And the only way to know what is requested is through communication with people actually making apps using it, so why not hang around there? It's not like the tech forums get your head eaten off or anything (okok perhaps if you would post about a carrier nerf orso there but that's besides the point )
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Kw4h
Dragon's Rage
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.01.14 17:08:00 -
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I'm not impressed by the priority CCP is giving to it. I mean, the API basically is a direct link between an application and the game database. I'm sure it would be on somebody's watchlist.
Of course I could be wrong, but looking at the time it takes to post a message on the forums it's not very likely.
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PhamNuwen
Caldari
Abyss Rangers
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Posted - 2008.01.14 17:24:00 -
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Originally by: CCP kieron
I've contacted staff about the API situation and am waiting for a response that should be forthcoming soon.
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No answer is also a answer...
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Ryushe
M. Corp
Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2008.01.15 19:47:00 -
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Dear CCP,
Please let us know if there's any new information on this issue as mentioned by Kieron on page 1 of this thread.
The random downtimes of the API are worrying, and quite frankly could use at least some explanation I would think.
I understand the group of people developing applications around the API is a small one, but we are one with a potentially big impact; just look at EBANK for example, or EVEMon, the near-realtime Sovereignty Maps, ISKSense and all that good stuff.
Once again, we appreciate the time spent on a feature that no other major game developer would even think about doing in the first place probably, and we (at least I) thank you for it.
Regards,
Ryushe
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Sor Prius
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Posted - 2008.01.15 20:40:00 -
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The API should be integral to the game, ie, the game should use the exact same interfaces. The API should be expanded to include Mail, skill changes, job creation/completion (PE and ME research, Invention and manufacturing), Chat, and pretty much anything else you can do in a station. And that's just for starters.
How about skins for your Neocom and GUI? Custom ship paint schemes?
Sor
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Hexxx
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.01.15 22:17:00 -
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Edited by: Hexxx on 15/01/2008 22:17:43
edit: grammar mistakes =/
EBANK has actually processed about 185 billion isk in funds. I know that RESX has processed hundreds of billions worth of funds (much more than EBANK). Isksense also handles alot of cash using the API too. These kinds of services are ONLY possible with the EVE API.
EVE players have built a Bank, a Stock Exchange, an Advertising Network, and countless other valuable services. All these services are put in jeporady if EVE API support lapses. Think of the countless other yet to be created services that would be possible with expanded API functionality.
EVE-Bank (EBANK)
http://www.eve-bank.net/
Real-Time EVE Stock Exchange (RESX) http://resx.nfshost.com/exchange.php
IskSense
http://www.isksense.com/
Consulting, IPO Template, and Stock/Bond definitions.
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Shevar
Minmatar
A.W.M
Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2008.01.17 10:16:00 -
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Page 5 is bad  .
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Ryu Nagatomi
State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.01.18 16:26:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Ryushe
Dear CCP,
Please let us know if there's any new information on this issue as mentioned by Kieron on page 1 of this thread.
The random downtimes of the API are worrying, and quite frankly could use at least some explanation I would think.
I understand the group of people developing applications around the API is a small one, but we are one with a potentially big impact; just look at EBANK for example, or EVEMon, the near-realtime Sovereignty Maps, ISKSense and all that good stuff.
Once again, we appreciate the time spent on a feature that no other major game developer would even think about doing in the first place probably, and we (at least I) thank you for it.
This. Any word yet CCP?
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CCP Prism X
C C P
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Posted - 2008.01.18 17:37:00 -
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Ryushe pointed me here on #Eve-Dev, talked to Explorer, here be the bullet points.
1. Explorer will not post anything until each and every detail is crystal and smooth. His position doesn't allow him to post any less accurately.
2. Until then the API project isn't our top priority. Not only, but also, due to other project relying on a revamp on it and we don't have resource to waste on inventing the wheel knowing that we'll have to go about re-inventing it.
3. 2Kay's API duties start and end with defects. Not development. But don't take this as the API is dead. It's a temporary solution.
4. Datadump procedure is being revised and moved between departments as it doesn't belong in game development.
5. This is probably the most clear and to-the-point post I've ever posted in official capacity.
~ Prism X
EvE Database Developer,
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente
Battlestars
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.18 17:49:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Prism X
5. This is probably the most clear and to-the-point post I've ever posted in official capacity.
Here's hoping that this is the exception, and not the new rule.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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Shevar
Minmatar
A.W.M
Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2008.01.22 23:44:00 -
[52]
Originally by: CCP Prism X
Ryushe pointed me here on #Eve-Dev, talked to Explorer, here be the bullet points.
1. Explorer will not post anything until each and every detail is crystal and smooth. His position doesn't allow him to post any less accurately.
2. Until then the API project isn't our top priority. Not only, but also, due to other project relying on a revamp on it and we don't have resource to waste on inventing the wheel knowing that we'll have to go about re-inventing it.
3. 2Kay's API duties start and end with defects. Not development. But don't take this as the API is dead. It's a temporary solution.
4. Datadump procedure is being revised and moved between departments as it doesn't belong in game development.
5. This is probably the most clear and to-the-point post I've ever posted in official capacity.
Thanks for the post Prism, shame to see the project grounded at the moment though. And I do hope it will lift off again soon.
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Kweel Nakashyn
Minmatar
Aeden
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2008.01.23 00:05:00 -
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Edited by: Kweel Nakashyn on 23/01/2008 00:05:36
Edited by: Kweel Nakashyn on 23/01/2008 00:05:17
Originally by: CCP Prism X
2. (...) we don't have resource to waste on inventing the wheel knowing that we'll have to go about re-inventing it.
Then think outside the box. :)
A gang API would be great. One gang FC would export his gang position and fleet composition to an url one time per hour.
Would be great.
2isk
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Cursive
Ars ex Discordia
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.14 09:46:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Prism X
Ryushe pointed me here on #Eve-Dev, talked to Explorer, here be the bullet points.
1. Explorer will not post anything until each and every detail is crystal and smooth. His position doesn't allow him to post any less accurately.
2. Until then the API project isn't our top priority. Not only, but also, due to other project relying on a revamp on it and we don't have resource to waste on inventing the wheel knowing that we'll have to go about re-inventing it.
3. 2Kay's API duties start and end with defects. Not development. But don't take this as the API is dead. It's a temporary solution.
4. Datadump procedure is being revised and moved between departments as it doesn't belong in game development.
5. This is probably the most clear and to-the-point post I've ever posted in official capacity.
How about spending 5 minutes to make the API serve the 902 error code, or HTTP 5xx status codes (being it is 404 is the wrong status code to serve) so your customer base and 3rd party developers don't have to spend hours implementing kludgy solutions to work around the current API downtime?
In the time it took you to speak with someone somewhere and write this reply that could have at least been done...
I realize you guys have a bit of a scramble after this patch, but the lack of communication to the third party devs have cost a lot of people a lot of time without any knowledge or insight as to what is going on. We've all had to operate under the assumption that it was related to the patch and would be up again... sometime and make our apps deal with an API state that presumably didn't exist. (This isn't the normal state for it during it's daily downtime, nor when it has an error.)
Communication. Seriously. A dev shouldn't need permission to make a post a few minutes after the API goes down saying: "Sorry, there was an issue after the patch, we will get to this as soon as possible." At least we know you guys care enough to communicate with us in that case.
CCP is getting a reputation of a company that only acts after it's customers go nuts and never preemptively. Scary.
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NightF0x
Chicken Coup Raiders
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Posted - 2008.03.14 10:34:00 -
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nice necro....
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Na'Kunni
RSP Enterprises
HUZZAH FEDERATION
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Posted - 2008.03.14 11:13:00 -
[56]
Originally by: NightF0x
nice necro....
proof or stfu!!!!!
but yeah API is a little screwed still, keep gettin errors when I try to update it
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deadmeet
Star Blossom
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Posted - 2008.03.14 11:41:00 -
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true, API status information are really hard to get....
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NightF0x
Chicken Coup Raiders
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Posted - 2008.03.14 16:29:00 -
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Originally by: Kweel Nakashyn
Edited by: Kweel Nakashyn on 23/01/2008 00:05:36
Good enough for ya...lol =D
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Hexxx
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2008.03.14 20:56:00 -
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Edited by: Hexxx on 14/03/2008 20:57:49
EBANK has now processed 464 billion isk in deposits since October of 2007.
EBANK controls roughly 237 billion isk. 62 billion through Bond sales and 175 billion isk across 1,044 users.
EBANK has produced (historically) 279 billion isk in loans. Total withdraws reach 140 billion and are comprised of over 200 seperate transactions.
EBANK is on track to control over 1 trillion isk by December 2008 and influence 3-4% of the active money supply in EVE through creation of commercial money (loans) and ultimately influence monetary policy in the EVE economy.
While CCP currently (and forever) control Fiscal policies, this is one of the very few ways players are capable of affecting the macro-economics of EVE.
Without API functionality, the Bank will be forced to liquidiate (a painful exercise in itself), and this amazing finacial institution will be forced to close it's doors.
With improved API functionality, there is no telling what the future may hold.
Regards,
Hexxx
Chairman of the EBANK Board
*note: statistics are accurate as of 3:57 PM EST on 3/14/2008, pulled from live data from http://www.eve-bank.net/About/Stats.aspx
Director | www.eve-bank.net
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Jolin Ires
Federation Fleet
Chaos Incarnate.
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Posted - 2008.03.14 21:01:00 -
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Originally by: Gondus
I wont live without my eve programs....slowly....die..ing...ahhhh
I am meeelttiiiiing.
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