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Philipius Maximus DEATH'S LEGION	Posted - 2008.01.08 03:40:00 - [1] Solo piracy is a ***. I recently moved back to a region that I used to base out of. Of course, the area induces strong nostalgia, and it is a wonderful place for a solo pirate... sort of. Over the last four days, I have lost FOUR Sacrileges to blobs; It's becoming incredibly hard to find a decent fight these days. I chose the Sacrilege because of its ability to fit MWD/Web/Scram/Injector and run a nasty tank capable of tanking gate guns for a while. Also, if ** hits the fan, it's not too hard to run... or so I thought. Sac #1 - Phobos and Rax on the gate. They engage. I start on the Rax. By the time he pops, there's 2 hurricanes and a Huginn. I kinda suicided this one. Sac #2 - Travelling through low sec and jump into a camp. Two Ravens, Tempest, Huginn. MWD back to gate. Torps waste me pretty much instantly. (I think cause of the Sig Radius from MWD.) Sac #3 - Attacked a noob Raven on the gate. He was dying. Deimos shows up and wastes me. Gate guns hurt, too. Sac #4 - Warp in on a drake in a belt. Web/Scram, then another drake/stiletto/brutix show up. Granted, some of these loses could have been prevented, but hell, It's a tough life for a solo pirate. Maybe I've just hit a bad streak, who knows. Anyone else having similar experiences? Please share.
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy	Posted - 2008.01.08 03:45:00 - [2] Solo piracy happens at belts... not at gates. You will be blobbed over and over again Originally by: Tarminic Okay, that's it. You are on the KOS list, and you better pray that I don't have access to a locater agent.
Malka Badi'a Suffoco Noctis	Posted - 2008.01.08 03:46:00 - [3] Solo piracy's succession comes in waves. As certain corporations and alliances rotate various regions will feel the effects. And as those corporations split apart or increase in size so do the traffic activity patterns. What I learned was best is to preplot various courses through your hunting session. Check your origonal course and then compare that to the stats provided by your map. What's the Ships Killed stats? Pods destroyed stats? Is there an unusually large presence of ships in the past 30 minutes on one of your system nodes? Reroute. Planning your path a bit ahead will give you quite a few less surprise encouters, especially since you know where the softer (fewer in system) targets will be and where the large gate camps have been waiting for some time. Adapt, and it isn't too bad while the events of that region move by. ---------
Corstaad Minmatar Brutor tribe	Posted - 2008.01.08 03:53:00 - [4] Think low sec solo stuff is all about getting used to the locals. Even in a few months certain systems will change from hotspots to lame camp areas. Alot of the time its six hours of screwing around one hour of straight fights.
Bellum Eternus Gallente Death of Virtue	Posted - 2008.01.08 04:05:00 - [5] If you want a good 'solo' fight and want to push the envelope of your piloting skills, go try killing mission running BS with frigs and cruisers. Bellum Eternus [Vid] L E G E N D A R Y [Vid] L E G E N D A R Y I I
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy	Posted - 2008.01.08 04:37:00 - [6] Originally by: Bellum Eternus If you want a good 'solo' fight and want to push the envelope of your piloting skills, go try killing mission running BS with frigs and cruisers. Just go in with one other BS and a tackling cruiser the less people you use, the less loot you gotta give up Originally by: Tarminic Okay, that's it. You are on the KOS list, and you better pray that I don't have access to a locater agent.
strive nails DEATH'S LEGION	Posted - 2008.01.08 04:49:00 - [7] L2P <3 strive nails - pod killer and implant trader playing EVE on a MacBook Pro
Malena Panic Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2008.01.08 05:25:00 - [8] Not too sure how #3 counts as a blob; it looks to me like you jumped a newb Raven and got jumped in turn by another solo pirate. ...
Crazy Tasty Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2008.01.08 05:25:00 - [9] Just wait till you get a cyno dropped and see 4 capitols in for a single BS. Thanks for that CCP. Get a cov ops alt though, probe mission runners, its a good time.
Ryas Nia Minmatar Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2008.01.08 05:25:00 - [10] Generaly 10+ is "blobed" it sounds like you had bad luck but not one of your losses was to a blob, all were what we like to call "gangs" some were even solo. Such as the lone Demios that killed you.
Arekhon Mutually Assured Distraction	Posted - 2008.01.08 06:07:00 - [11] as others have said, sounds like bad luck m8. solo piracy is tough nowdays, just keep at it man. gang = >6, though your opinion can change if you get caught solo. I think a blob is <10 imo. Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap [BEES]
illusha Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2008.01.08 06:13:00 - [12] Don't attack people on the gates unless you are in a big gang or have a scout on the other side
Karyuudo Tydraad Caldari Whiskey Pete's Drycleaning Services The Acquisition	Posted - 2008.01.08 07:15:00 - [13] Originally by: Crazy Tasty Just wait till you get a cyno dropped and see 4 capitols in for a single BS. Thanks for that CCP. Get a cov ops alt though, probe mission runners, its a good time. Seriously. Getting blobbed by carriers a lot lately. :(
Maya Lingno	Posted - 2008.01.08 07:30:00 - [14] Solo PvP in Belt: Fit A Stealth Bomber, Fly to a Belt in Low Sec, Wait, drink Coffe o a Coke, wait more tinme..... someone warps in... decloak... pop him... cloak. cya in space
Arekhon Mutually Assured Distraction	Posted - 2008.01.08 07:40:00 - [15] Originally by: Maya Lingno Solo PvP in Belt: Fit A Stealth Bomber, Fly to a Belt in Low Sec, Wait, drink Coffe o a Coke, wait more tinme..... someone warps in... decloak... pop him... cloak. cya in space please do...my rapier will wtfpwn a sb allday long Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap [BEES]
Eduoard Dantes	Posted - 2008.01.08 07:46:00 - [16] I think solo-pirates should check in to scanning and mission probing. I've been thinking about it for a while, and I reckon I've got a decent concept for it. You don't need amazing skills for scanning, and many mission runners take more than a few good recon scans to finish up. Probe launchers have high cpu reqs but it is possible to come out with some decent boat-setups, particularly if you take into account the fact that you can gain dps from the local npc's if you fly right, and you plan to fight specific fields of target. For example, I'm working on a Myrmidon setup that uses a triple ECM mids, with no tank. Its risky, but most misson runners won't bring warp scramblers, so you should be ok if things start to go south. Its just an idea for me at the moment, but I think the point is to learn to adapt, and to use the tools available. Pick your target type, and use the tools available to work to the plan. Then a little patience and location research can give you some good kills i think. Correct me if I am wrong.
Arekhon Mutually Assured Distraction	Posted - 2008.01.08 07:57:00 - [17] Edited by: Arekhon on 08/01/2008 07:57:05 Originally by: Eduoard Dantes I think solo-pirates should check in to scanning and mission probing. . your only about 1yr+ behind the curve, but hey you could be canflipping Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap [BEES]
Jhonen Senraedi Minmatar Universal Exports FOUNDATI0N	Posted - 2008.01.08 08:27:00 - [18] Got to love the way..whenever a pirate dies to multiples..it's a blob! However..when a pirate gang..of 8..10....whatever kills a ship...it's all fair. Double Standards...yep!
hellsknights RennTech SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.08 08:39:00 - [19] Hit up 0.0 and look for some lazy ratters.
Setana Manoro Gallente Firefly Inc.	Posted - 2008.01.08 10:13:00 - [20] Originally by: Philipius Maximus Solo piracy is a ***. I recently moved back to a region that I used to base out of. Of course, the area induces strong nostalgia, and it is a wonderful place for a solo pirate... sort of. Over the last four days, I have lost FOUR Sacrileges to blobs; It's becoming incredibly hard to find a decent fight these days. I chose the Sacrilege because of its ability to fit MWD/Web/Scram/Injector and run a nasty tank capable of tanking gate guns for a while. Also, if ** hits the fan, it's not too hard to run... or so I thought. Sac #1 - Phobos and Rax on the gate. They engage. I start on the Rax. By the time he pops, there's 2 hurricanes and a Huginn. I kinda suicided this one. Sac #2 - Travelling through low sec and jump into a camp. Two Ravens, Tempest, Huginn. MWD back to gate. Torps waste me pretty much instantly. (I think cause of the Sig Radius from MWD.) Sac #3 - Attacked a noob Raven on the gate. He was dying. Deimos shows up and wastes me. Gate guns hurt, too. Sac #4 - Warp in on a drake in a belt. Web/Scram, then another drake/stiletto/brutix show up. Granted, some of these loses could have been prevented, but hell, It's a tough life for a solo pirate. Maybe I've just hit a bad streak, who knows. Anyone else having similar experiences? Please share. Solo piracy at gates in a HAC = fail. There is a reason why the "nano-fag" ships are popular in belt piracy. And you also have mission probing, if you have an alt for it. Rifter is not X-Wing CCP. Trinity model kinda sucks.
Atreides Horza No Fear Buccaneers	Posted - 2008.01.08 10:24:00 - [21] Edited by: Atreides Horza on 08/01/2008 10:32:56 Edited by: Atreides Horza on 08/01/2008 10:28:58 Hey there, Phil. This shouldn't be news to you. When your lads lived in Vitrauze, I came across you often - and when I did, it would be in huge gangs, consisting mainly of young players in battleships. Ripe targets when on their own, but dangerous when in groups - and not more than a few months ago, I could've been the one writing your initial post when I engaged a small gang of yours in an ishtar and got hit by a 15+ blob. Put shortly, if I saw you around, I'd be bringing friends for that kill. I don't like EVE being that way - but I'm a realist, and the days of me kindly bending over to the next wonderkid in his****tastic nanohac and his quarterbacks hugging on the next gate are gone. That having been said, I'd like to offer you some ideas and hints as to how you avoid these situations: 1). Choose the right ship for the right job. The HAC line of ships, while nice for roaming, get a lot of attention in local, because they pretty up killboards - and since they're most often nano'ed up their @sses or tanked to hell, people WILL bring the tools needed to get the job done. Hence, the blob. 2). Don't put yourself in silly situations. Getting hit by a deimos at a gate, whilst off'ing a noob raven is IMO a silly situation. 3). Make yourself an attractive target. Roam far away from home, where people are less likely to have mental images of that 30+ alliance blob humping local the night before. Show them that you're interested in a fight, without necessarily parking your @ss at 0 to planet 1. Woe them, romance them, sex them up, and you'll get that little piece of tail more often than not. 4). Make yourself a realistic target. If you're in a ship doing 4000 m/s, dont expect a battlecruiser with a base speed of 200 m/s to come trundling after you. There's a price to being able to disengage at will - pay it or fly something else. 5). Don't play games. Avoid fighting in docking range of stations and jumping range of gates. Make people commit their ships if they want you on their killboard, instead of offering them a way out by docking or bringing friends. 6). Situational awareness. Drake in a belt = be ready to run if local spikes. Everything else in a belt = be ready to run if local spikes. Also, keep close tabs on who's in local. Keep yourself up to scratch with who's flying with who and who's likely to have a gang next door. 7). Choose your fights. You're in a HAC. Most HACs do BS-level damage with little or no tank at all, which means 'kill instantly and gtfo', instead of 'let's stick around and expect to tank everything they throw at me'. If you wanna tank sentries and fight prolonged engagements, use a battlecruiser or a command ship. ... and as for your final conclusion on solo piracy? Yes, it's hard. Damn hard - and it won't get easier. But it sure as hell is fun!
Golden Helmet Caldari Dangerously Insane	Posted - 2008.01.08 10:32:00 - [22] For belt piracy, Inties ftw. Prettymuch everyone ratting in low sec has no clue how to properly fit their ship. Fit a Kinetic hardener (most common damage type), small rep, go up close and kick the nubs around a bit. The only real fights you'll get though is jumping larger gangs of newbies either ratting or looking for kills of their own. Been doing some fun little 2-4v1's with my Crusader, it's really a lot of fun
Tank CEO Caldari Dark Cartel	Posted - 2008.01.08 10:39:00 - [23] Edited by: Tank CEO on 08/01/2008 10:44:48 Where these carebears that ganked you or pirates? I think the carebears or "positve sec" or "pirate hunters" have finally after 5 years learned to fight back, which is why I urge for the removal of sentries at gates. But tbh, the way you were flying, you were just looking for a fight... thats pvp. The real piracy is with black op ships with a alt character scanner to scan down agent runners with goot loot, thats piracy, to make a profit off your kill. ------------- Jita is mine.
Kronarn	Posted - 2008.01.08 10:44:00 - [24] I was tempted the other day while ratting there was a guy mining and i could hear the voice of the dark side calling me, saying " Do it, it wont hurt you, you know you want to, GO ON DOOOO ITTTTTT!!!!!" You know im being pulled further and further into the dark side and I really want to be a pirate but Im resisting cos im not that good and ill get popped straight away. Anyone wanna take on an apprentice?? lol
Cpt Branko The Bloody Red	Posted - 2008.01.08 11:11:00 - [25] Originally by: Atreides Horza Edited by: Atreides Horza on 08/01/2008 10:37:05 Hey there, Phil. This shouldn't be news to you. When your lads lived in Vitrauze, I came across you often - and when I did, it would be in huge gangs, consisting mainly of young players in battleships. Ripe targets when on their own, but dangerous when in groups - and not more than a few months ago, I could've been the one writing your initial post when I engaged a small gang of yours in an ishtar and got hit by a 15+ blob. Put shortly, if I saw you around, I'd be bringing friends for that kill. I don't like EVE being that way - but I'm a realist, and the days of me kindly bending over to the next wonderkid in his****tastic nanohac and his quarterbacks hugging on the next gate are gone. That having been said, I'd like to offer you some ideas and hints as to how you avoid these situations: 1). Choose the right ship for the right job. The HAC line of ships, while nice for roaming, get a lot of attention in local, because they pretty up killboards - and since they're most often nano'ed up their @sses or tanked to hell, people WILL bring the tools needed to get the job done. Hence, the blob. 2). Don't put yourself in silly situations. Getting hit by a deimos at a gate, whilst off'ing a noob raven is IMO a silly situation. 3). Make yourself an attractive target. Roam far away from home, where people are less likely to have mental images of that 30+ alliance blob humping local the night before. Show them that you're interested in a fight, without necessarily parking your @ss at 0 to planet 1. Woe them, romance them, sex them up, and you'll get that little piece of tail more often than not. 4). Make yourself a realistic target. If you're in a ship doing 4000 m/s, dont expect a battlecruiser with a base speed of 200 m/s to come trundling after you. There's a price to being able to disengage at will - pay it or fly something else. 5). Don't play games. Avoid fighting in docking range of stations and jumping range of gates. Make people commit their ships if they want you on their killboard, instead of offering them a way out by docking or bringing friends. 6). Situational awareness. Drake in a belt = be ready to run if local spikes. Everything else in a belt = be ready to run if local spikes. Also, keep close tabs on who's in local. Keep yourself up to scratch with who's flying with who and who's likely to have a gang next door. 7). Choose your fights. You're in a HAC. Most HACs do BS-level damage with little or no tank at all, which means 'kill instantly and gtfo', instead of 'let's stick around and expect to tank everything they throw at me'. If you wanna tank sentries and fight prolonged engagements, use a battlecruiser or a command ship. 8). Be gracious in victory AND defeat, and treat your opponents with as much respect after the fight as you are ruthless in the fight. If you're an arrogant @-hole or if you smack the crap out of local when your blob's next door, people are just gonna leave when you enter local, and that = no fights and no victims. ... and as for your final conclusion on solo piracy? Yes, it's hard. Damn hard - and it won't get easier. But it sure as hell is fun! I subscribe to this poster ;) Also, to the OP: see his points (1) and (4) - flying a Sac preety much guarantees that people will bring in numbers and/or HACs/recons to deal with you. We all know the Sacriledge is a bloody awesome boat, and personally it worries me much more on scanner then a Vagabond/Diemost/Eagle/etc does. Which is the reason I know I won't play with it if I see it, unless I've got a couple of mates ready to jump in and kill it. Rifters!
Oregon sinful The Ankou The Reckoning.	Posted - 2008.01.08 11:14:00 - [26] Originally by: Philipius Maximus Stuff I chose the Sacrilege. Stuff you chose amarr... you chose... ... ... Poorly. Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Cortes POST WITH YOUR MAIN OR STFU
Niffetin Gallente CONsordium Infinate	Posted - 2008.01.08 11:34:00 - [27] Originally by: Atreides Horza You're in a HAC. Most HACs do BS-level damage with little or no tank at all, which means 'kill instantly and gtfo', instead of 'let's stick around and expect to tank everything they throw at me'. If you wanna tank sentries and fight prolonged engagements, use a battlecruiser or a command ship. WTB Hacs that do 1000 DPS --- Teeheee!
Amanda Shadowsword Caldari Chaos Incarnate.	Posted - 2008.01.08 11:37:00 - [28] Originally by: Arekhon Originally by: Maya Lingno Solo PvP in Belt: Fit A Stealth Bomber, Fly to a Belt in Low Sec, Wait, drink Coffe o a Coke, wait more tinme..... someone warps in... decloak... pop him... cloak. cya in space please do...my rapier will wtfpwn a sb allday long please do...my titan will wtfpwn a rapier allday long ================================= [orange]Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Wachtmeister
Cpt Branko The Bloody Red	Posted - 2008.01.08 11:37:00 - [29] Originally by: Niffetin Originally by: Atreides Horza You're in a HAC. Most HACs do BS-level damage with little or no tank at all, which means 'kill instantly and gtfo', instead of 'let's stick around and expect to tank everything they throw at me'. If you wanna tank sentries and fight prolonged engagements, use a battlecruiser or a command ship. WTB Hacs that do 1000 DPS WTS 600ish DPS T2-fit BS fit. Not everything is a torp raven or a gank mega. Rifters!
Niffetin Gallente CONsordium Infinate	Posted - 2008.01.08 11:51:00 - [30] Originally by: Cpt Branko Originally by: Niffetin Originally by: Atreides Horza You're in a HAC. Most HACs do BS-level damage with little or no tank at all, which means 'kill instantly and gtfo', instead of 'let's stick around and expect to tank everything they throw at me'. If you wanna tank sentries and fight prolonged engagements, use a battlecruiser or a command ship. WTB Hacs that do 1000 DPS WTS 600ish DPS T2-fit BS fit. Not everything is a torp raven or a gank mega. Every Amarr BS will do over 600 (Even the Apoc I think ), Phoon will easily do over 600, Tempest just about, Maelstrom will do more. --- Teeheee!
Cpt Branko The Bloody Red	Posted - 2008.01.08 12:08:00 - [31] Edited by: Cpt Branko on 08/01/2008 12:08:19 Originally by: Niffetin Every Amarr BS will do over 600 (Even the Apoc I think ), Phoon will easily do over 600, Tempest just about, Maelstrom will do more. I was talking about the Tempest there actually, I've found myself a very nice fit, damage output isn't too stellar though. Finally decided to take the BS plunge. Anyway, I'm derailing ;P Rifters!
Atreides Horza No Fear Buccaneers	Posted - 2008.01.08 12:54:00 - [32] Originally by: Niffetin Originally by: Cpt Branko Originally by: Niffetin Originally by: Atreides Horza You're in a HAC. Most HACs do BS-level damage with little or no tank at all, which means 'kill instantly and gtfo', instead of 'let's stick around and expect to tank everything they throw at me'. If you wanna tank sentries and fight prolonged engagements, use a battlecruiser or a command ship. WTB Hacs that do 1000 DPS WTS 600ish DPS T2-fit BS fit. Not everything is a torp raven or a gank mega. Every Amarr BS will do over 600 (Even the Apoc I think ), Phoon will easily do over 600, Tempest just about, Maelstrom will do more. ... and here's the thing, lads. You don't really NEED 1000 dps to get a job done. Everybody's become so wound up in the whole nanofad/zomgblobcoming/omfglocal-atmosphere that they forgot that you're not SUPPOSED to be killing all of eve with that one fitting in 5 seconds flat. Opting for tank rather than gank DOES pay off if you fly it accordingly. You'll kill stuff slower, sure, but you'll live long enough to kill all of it. Vice versa, speed gives you the option of going in for the fast kill. If it doesn't happen and you need to get out, you can. Personally, I don't 'get' people solo'ing in battleships. Sure, they have their place - but it's not in a solo role. They reek of bait and blob, and thus is a turn-off for anyone with half a braincell. Flying one solo, you'll be lucky to catch an anastethized sloth with a limp, and doing 30+ jumps in one is about as much fun as counting toe-nail clippings. It's all good though, if size is your prerogative. Just stop trying to fit universal setups and complain when the rest of EVE doesn't apply to it.
Kronarn	Posted - 2008.01.08 14:11:00 - [33] Does anyone want an apprentice? lol
General Coochie The Bastards	Posted - 2008.01.08 14:12:00 - [34] Originally by: Kronarn Does anyone want an apprentice? lol convo me in game in like 10 min I logged on by then. Cant fly with you at the moment but you give you some tips if you want them and happy to answer questions.
Omarvelous Destry's Lounge	Posted - 2008.01.08 14:51:00 - [35] OP - I feel your pain. Went out for a spin in my Harpy with an odd fit to test out a theory I had (max DPS and AB/tracking disrupter for tank). Found an Eagle in belt - did I listen to the voice in my head saying 'ITS A TRAP!' - Nooooooo. Did I slow boat it to him 90 km away? Sure, afterall I had an ace up my sleeve a buddy in an osprey to rep me while I went in for an 'easy' kill... Fast forward 30 seconds later, and a Crow, Falcon, Vulture in addition to the original Eagle, are pounding the Osprey and I into space dust. /cryface Bah - next time Ive got to be more patient, and listen to my trap/blob instincts more. __________________________________________________ Sup brosef! Destry's Lounge is looking for a few good drunks - contact me in game.
me bored	Posted - 2008.01.08 14:59:00 - [36] Miners and PVEers no longer use low sec and the only fights you'll find will be from pvpers who often gang and blob as you experienced. I would recommend probing mission runners as it's about the only viable way to make a serious living from solo piracy these days. It's a sad fact that ccp don't care about pirates and the state of low sec. We make up a very small percentage of the player base and the money from our subscriptions isn't enough to earn their attention.
Kronarn	Posted - 2008.01.08 15:17:00 - [37] Originally by: General Coochie Originally by: Kronarn Does anyone want an apprentice? lol convo me in game in like 10 min I logged on by then. Cant fly with you at the moment but you give you some tips if you want them and happy to answer questions. Im at work at the moment, please send me eve-mail to tell me when you will be online and ill be happy to listen to your tips will be good arrhhhhh lol
Jacob Etienne Caldari Contempt.	Posted - 2008.01.08 18:07:00 - [38] Originally by: Philipius Maximus Solo piracy is a ***. I recently moved back to a region that I used to base out of. Of course, the area induces strong nostalgia, and it is a wonderful place for a solo pirate... sort of. Over the last four days, I have lost FOUR Sacrileges to blobs; It's becoming incredibly hard to find a decent fight these days. I chose the Sacrilege because of its ability to fit MWD/Web/Scram/Injector and run a nasty tank capable of tanking gate guns for a while. Also, if ** hits the fan, it's not too hard to run... or so I thought. Sac #1 - Phobos and Rax on the gate. They engage. I start on the Rax. By the time he pops, there's 2 hurricanes and a Huginn. I kinda suicided this one. Sac #2 - Travelling through low sec and jump into a camp. Two Ravens, Tempest, Huginn. MWD back to gate. Torps waste me pretty much instantly. (I think cause of the Sig Radius from MWD.) Sac #3 - Attacked a noob Raven on the gate. He was dying. Deimos shows up and wastes me. Gate guns hurt, too. Sac #4 - Warp in on a drake in a belt. Web/Scram, then another drake/stiletto/brutix show up. Granted, some of these loses could have been prevented, but hell, It's a tough life for a solo pirate. Maybe I've just hit a bad streak, who knows. Anyone else having similar experiences? Please share. Back to the Onne gate with you, Phil... take some of the D-L nubbins with you for company, its where you were born to be, sugar. <3
nether void Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2008.01.08 18:09:00 - [39] I applaud you sir for at least wanting a 1v1 fight. --------------------------- nethervoid - since '97 [UO\|EQ\|SB\|SWG\|PS\|EVE\|HZ\|NWN\|VG\|WoW]
Cpt Branko The Bloody Red	Posted - 2008.01.08 20:43:00 - [40] Originally by: me bored Miners and PVEers no longer use low sec and the only fights you'll find will be from pvpers who often gang and blob as you experienced. I would recommend probing mission runners as it's about the only viable way to make a serious living from solo piracy these days. It's a sad fact that ccp don't care about pirates and the state of low sec. We make up a very small percentage of the player base and the money from our subscriptions isn't enough to earn their attention. I got a nice 16+M of loot today soloing in a Rifter. Eh, what? Rifters!
strive nails DEATH'S LEGION	Posted - 2008.01.08 22:18:00 - [41] Originally by: Atreides Horza Edited by: Atreides Horza on 08/01/2008 10:37:05 Hey there, Phil. This shouldn't be news to you. When your lads lived in Vitrauze, I came across you often - and when I did, it would be in huge gangs, consisting mainly of young players in battleships. Ripe targets when on their own, but dangerous when in groups - and not more than a few months ago, I could've been the one writing your initial post when I engaged a small gang of yours in an ishtar and got hit by a 15+ blob. Put shortly, if I saw you around, I'd be bringing friends for that kill. I don't like EVE being that way - but I'm a realist, and the days of me kindly bending over to the next wonderkid in his****tastic nanohac and his quarterbacks hugging on the next gate are gone. That having been said, I'd like to offer you some ideas and hints as to how you avoid these situations: 1). Choose the right ship for the right job. The HAC line of ships, while nice for roaming, get a lot of attention in local, because they pretty up killboards - and since they're most often nano'ed up their @sses or tanked to hell, people WILL bring the tools needed to get the job done. Hence, the blob. 2). Don't put yourself in silly situations. Getting hit by a deimos at a gate, whilst off'ing a noob raven is IMO a silly situation. 3). Make yourself an attractive target. Roam far away from home, where people are less likely to have mental images of that 30+ alliance blob humping local the night before. Show them that you're interested in a fight, without necessarily parking your @ss at 0 to planet 1. Woe them, romance them, sex them up, and you'll get that little piece of tail more often than not. 4). Make yourself a realistic target. If you're in a ship doing 4000 m/s, dont expect a battlecruiser with a base speed of 200 m/s to come trundling after you. There's a price to being able to disengage at will - pay it or fly something else. 5). Don't play games. Avoid fighting in docking range of stations and jumping range of gates. Make people commit their ships if they want you on their killboard, instead of offering them a way out by docking or bringing friends. 6). Situational awareness. Drake in a belt = be ready to run if local spikes. Everything else in a belt = be ready to run if local spikes. Also, keep close tabs on who's in local. Keep yourself up to scratch with who's flying with who and who's likely to have a gang next door. 7). Choose your fights. You're in a HAC. Most HACs do BS-level damage with little or no tank at all, which means 'kill instantly and gtfo', instead of 'let's stick around and expect to tank everything they throw at me'. If you wanna tank sentries and fight prolonged engagements, use a battlecruiser or a command ship. 8). Be gracious in victory AND defeat, and treat your opponents with as much respect after the fight as you are ruthless in the fight. If you're an arrogant @-hole or if you smack the crap out of local when your blob's next door, people are just gonna leave when you enter local, and that = no fights and no victims. ... and as for your final conclusion on solo piracy? Yes, it's hard. Damn hard - and it won't get easier. But it sure as hell is fun! sounds nice and all, but in practice you fly recons :p strive nails - pod killer and implant trader playing EVE on a MacBook Pro
Atreides Horza No Fear Buccaneers	Posted - 2008.01.08 22:25:00 - [42] Originally by: strive nails sounds nice and all, but in practice you fly recons :p Not so. I fly recons when the situation demands it, which happens to be quite often in the blob heaven that is Aeschee. But if you check my stats on our killboard, you will see that I solo in a wide array of other ships and get the same amount of kills with them, if not more. I don't believe in restricting myself to a certain ship or a certain setup. To me, ships are a toolbox and the setup constitutes it's contents. If you bring a set of wrenches to fix a set of shelves, it's not gonna happen.
strive nails DEATH'S LEGION	Posted - 2008.01.08 22:38:00 - [43] Originally by: Atreides Horza Originally by: strive nails sounds nice and all, but in practice you fly recons :p Not so. I fly recons when the situation demands it, which happens to be quite often in the blob heaven that is Aeschee. But if you check my stats on our killboard, you will see that I solo in a wide array of other ships and get the same amount of kills with them, if not more. I don't believe in restricting myself to a certain ship or a certain setup. To me, ships are a toolbox and the setup constitutes it's contents. If you bring a set of wrenches to fix a set of shelves, it's not gonna happen. jumping to conclusions here, are we? you said it yourself, it is often required. that is up for interpretation imo :) strive nails - pod killer and implant trader playing EVE on a MacBook Pro
Atreides Horza No Fear Buccaneers	Posted - 2008.01.08 22:53:00 - [44] Originally by: strive nails jumping to conclusions here, are we? Unfortunately, yes. Hence the need for me to correct you. Once again, look at our killboard. You'll see me kill in a wide array of ships which is, admittedly, highly situational - and when you've seen me mainly in recon ships, it'll be because I know you'll have a big gang within spitting distance, or because I'm tackling/supporting for my gang. What I'm saying is that in order to be succesful at killing, you'll need to adapt to the environment around you, instead of crying when the environment won't adapt to you. If one particular ship allows you to adapt and cope, then by all means do so... and if not? Well, there are better ways of coping than declaring the death of PvP in a fit of frustration.
Philipius Maximus DEATH'S LEGION	Posted - 2008.01.08 23:07:00 - [45] Originally by: Atreides Horza Edited by: Atreides Horza on 08/01/2008 22:57:02 Originally by: strive nails jumping to conclusions here, are we? Unfortunately, yes. Hence the need for me to correct you. Once again, look at our killboard. You'll see me kill in a wide array of ships which is, admittedly, highly situational - and when you've seen me mainly in recon ships, it'll be because I know you'll have a big gang within spitting distance, or because I'm tackling/supporting for my gang. What I'm saying is that in order to be succesful at killing, you'll need to adapt to the environment around you, instead of crying when the environment won't adapt to you. If one particular ship allows you to adapt and cope, then by all means do so... and if not? Well, there are better ways of coping than declaring the death of PvP in a fit of frustration. Now, don't get me wrong. I agree with the OP. PvP'ers in EVE across the board need a heavy dose of testicular fortitude - and for what it's worth, I commend his efforts and urge the rest of you fine lads to follow his example. But the solution to making it work for him lies within himself, and ranting at his misfortunes isn't gonna help one bit. Bah. I haven't declared the death of PvP. I'm simply a pirate trying to make his way in EVE and I'm having a tough time ATM. Don't act like you haven't ever hit one of those dreaded losing streaks - every pirate has. .
Orar Ironfist Incarnation of Evil Nocturnal Legion	Posted - 2008.01.08 23:14:00 - [46] Edited by: Orar Ironfist on 08/01/2008 23:14:58 Originally by: Jhonen Senraedi Got to love the way..whenever a pirate dies to multiples..it's a blob! However..when a pirate gang..of 8..10....whatever kills a ship...it's all fair. Double Standards...yep! Lol double standards yourself you friggin tard. I coulda swarn it was the anti-pies/carebears that whined about low sec moms and yet when i jumped through a gate last night what is it that i see campin the other side? Oh thats right a nyx EDIT: Forgot to say it was a foundation nyx oh and about 15 others that were tryin to gank me and 4 others Your sig burn is weak If by "Your sig burn is weak" You mean that "Orar is obviuosly alot cooler then me and I fail Very hard" Then i concur with your statement
Atreides Horza No Fear Buccaneers	Posted - 2008.01.08 23:20:00 - [47] Originally by: Philipius Maximus Originally by: Atreides Horza Edited by: Atreides Horza on 08/01/2008 22:57:02 Originally by: strive nails jumping to conclusions here, are we? Unfortunately, yes. Hence the need for me to correct you. Once again, look at our killboard. You'll see me kill in a wide array of ships which is, admittedly, highly situational - and when you've seen me mainly in recon ships, it'll be because I know you'll have a big gang within spitting distance, or because I'm tackling/supporting for my gang. What I'm saying is that in order to be succesful at killing, you'll need to adapt to the environment around you, instead of crying when the environment won't adapt to you. If one particular ship allows you to adapt and cope, then by all means do so... and if not? Well, there are better ways of coping than declaring the death of PvP in a fit of frustration. Now, don't get me wrong. I agree with the OP. PvP'ers in EVE across the board need a heavy dose of testicular fortitude - and for what it's worth, I commend his efforts and urge the rest of you fine lads to follow his example. But the solution to making it work for him lies within himself, and ranting at his misfortunes isn't gonna help one bit. I'm simply a pirate trying to make his way in EVE and I'm having a tough time ATM. Don't act like you haven't ever hit one of those dreaded losing streaks - every pirate has. . Ofc I have, and I don't see how any of what I've written so far is translated into me claiming the opposite. All I'm saying is that when Eve life starts pushing you around, you gotta roll with it. Now you've had a taste of both sides of the spectrum, being both the blobTe and the blobbed. Utilize those experiences you've made, adapt to the circumstances and I'm sure the worm will turn for you. Best of luck anyways. /Trey
Vrabac Amarr BALKAN EXPRESS	Posted - 2008.01.09 00:46:00 - [48] Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny Solo piracy happens at belts... not at gates. You will be blobbed over and over again Only way to kill someone in belt is if he doesnt know about existance of local chat. It is pretty much impossible. People you kill in belts will drop 125mm scout railguns and basic energized thermic membranes. To illustrate how sad state of belt pvp is, I was writing this while trying to find an osprey in belt, he docked by now and it took me 10 secs to pinpoint the planet with 3 belts and than warped into random one. By the time i was there he was at station.
Flyit	Posted - 2008.01.09 00:58:00 - [49] Originally by: me bored Miners and PVEers no longer use low sec and the only fights you'll find will be from pvpers who often gang and blob as you experienced. I would recommend probing mission runners as it's about the only viable way to make a serious living from solo piracy these days. That really is such a load of crap. If you're finding it that difficult then you're going to the wrong systems
Arekhon Mutually Assured Distraction	Posted - 2008.01.09 02:35:00 - [50] Originally by: Amanda Shadowsword Originally by: Arekhon Originally by: Maya Lingno Solo PvP in Belt: Fit A Stealth Bomber, Fly to a Belt in Low Sec, Wait, drink Coffe o a Coke, wait more tinme..... someone warps in... decloak... pop him... cloak. cya in space please do...my rapier will wtfpwn a sb allday long please do...my titan will wtfpwn a rapier allday long its a date then!! I would very much like to see a titan, well you know since I haven't yet ingame Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap [BEES]
Siigari Kitawa Gallente The Aduro Protocol The Fifth Race	Posted - 2008.01.09 06:45:00 - [51] Originally by: Orar Ironfist Edited by: Orar Ironfist on 08/01/2008 23:14:58 Originally by: Jhonen Senraedi Got to love the way..whenever a pirate dies to multiples..it's a blob! However..when a pirate gang..of 8..10....whatever kills a ship...it's all fair. Double Standards...yep! Lol double standards yourself you friggin tard. I coulda swarn it was the anti-pies/carebears that whined about low sec moms and yet when i jumped through a gate last night what is it that i see campin the other side? Oh thats right a nyx EDIT: Forgot to say it was a foundation nyx oh and about 15 others that were tryin to gank me and 4 others I was there! I have the fraps! View the lagtastic jumpin here! I was so close to wetting myself.. that was really stupid. Fortunately between my friends running and me lagging I managed to mash the jump button enough to escape (I got maybe a total of 20 frames for my stay in that system.) _________________ Burn.
Decimo DEATH'S LEGION	Posted - 2008.01.09 07:02:00 - [52] I didn't know pirates were capable of creating so much text. ADD ftl.
Arekhon Mutually Assured Distraction	Posted - 2008.01.09 07:14:00 - [53] Originally by: Siigari Kitawa (I got maybe a total of 20 frames for my stay in that system.) eve premium FTL good job CCP, I don't have a super computer...so all that new flashy stuff, yea I can't see it. I'll take my old graphics and frame rate thank you Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap [BEES]
Siigari Kitawa Gallente The Aduro Protocol The Fifth Race	Posted - 2008.01.09 08:31:00 - [54] Originally by: Arekhon Originally by: Siigari Kitawa (I got maybe a total of 20 frames for my stay in that system.) eve premium FTL good job CCP, I don't have a super computer...so all that new flashy stuff, yea I can't see it. I'll take my old graphics and frame rate thank you Well, I have a nice graphics card, slow CPU. So it is about the same with either premium or classic. _________________ Burn.
Summer's End Caldari Intel 7	Posted - 2008.01.09 09:20:00 - [55] Originally by: Golden Helmet For belt piracy, Inties ftw. Prettymuch everyone ratting in low sec has no clue how to properly fit their ship. Fit a Kinetic hardener (most common damage type), small rep, go up close and kick the nubs around a bit. The only real fights you'll get though is jumping larger gangs of newbies either ratting or looking for kills of their own. Been doing some fun little 2-4v1's with my Crusader, it's really a lot of fun I remember you.. Lost a pretty penny Punisher and pod along with a +3 set of implants. Too bad I was at half armor when you warped in or things might have gone differently. When you can't run, you crawl, and when you can't crawl - when you can't do that...You find someone to carry you.
Jin Karn	Posted - 2008.01.09 11:21:00 - [56] yea i like a bit solo pvp pieracy or just ppl ratting :) ppl drop better loot than most rats have u tryed 0.0 m8 no gate guns to worry about but will b blobs big fckign blob's just knowing were to go is key find a little trade route ull find them if u chill in a area for day or to try to look for NPC region's with surounding allaince held 0.0 as less likly to b jump bridge's as a travling means in outer less popalated area's some were like CURSE is good u have NPC 0.0 to base from make a little ss about 350k abouve a gate ina 2 gate system scan gate chill wait for your prey( put a small sucker bubble 60k behind other gate ) check map for blob's and pod kill's ( pod kills = dictor or bubble or fast inty lol ) take your time alot isk farmer's badger run loot and faction loot also solo ravens on route back and foe NPC station when i like solo pieracy but find it best in gang's 3-5 dictor/EW/hac's
Airata	Posted - 2008.01.13 01:56:00 - [57] Originally by: Jin Karn some were like CURSE is good u have NPC 0.0 to base from make a little ss about 350k abouve a gate ina 2 gate system scan gate chill wait for your prey( put a small sucker bubble 60k behind other gate ) Ya, come to Curse. We here eat lonely pirates for breakfast
Inertial Blood Reavers	Posted - 2008.01.13 02:18:00 - [58] Wait, which foundation got a Nyx? Great Wildlands Foundation? Some other foundation?
Johnny Gurkha Villains	Posted - 2008.01.13 02:40:00 - [59] Originally by: Inertial Wait, which foundation got a Nyx? Great Wildlands Foundation? Some other foundation? Yes they do and the pilot is called Mythral... they dropped a Nyx on some friends of mine in VMF-214 Blacksheep about a week or two ago in Edbinger.... talk about overkill, using a MOM for that purpose deserves the loss on principle
Draghkar Minmatar Pastry Coalition Sex Panthers	Posted - 2008.01.13 13:29:00 - [60] this could happen to any pirate. if this starts to happen i tend to play another game for a hour and hope that the bad look starts and never go into the same system without expecting to get ganked again. If you dont bonus if you do thn you where expecting it.
Smack Talker	Posted - 2008.01.13 13:41:00 - [61] Its too risky nowadays. I had a nasty experience the other day: -10 mega outside station, I aggressed in my mega, another mega, hyp, and maelstrom appear and pew pew my face. I tried to deagress but it wouldn't let me redock, even 1min after i stopped aggressing. In retrospect, I could've taken them all probably. I had the 1st mega in 25% armor when they appeared, and he had only just started on my shield. Oh well, i know what to do next time.
General Coochie The Bastards	Posted - 2008.01.13 13:50:00 - [62] Edited by: General Coochie on 13/01/2008 13:49:51 This is why belt/roam pirating in a HAC is a bad choice. You never make as much isk as you loose.
Suitonia Gallente interimo	Posted - 2008.01.13 14:21:00 - [63] If I pirate solo I'd always prefer an Incursus or a Rifter. Or prehaps a Taranis. They are pretty affordable, and can usually fly past most gate camps. If the **** hits the fan then you only lose a couple million. --- I've always wondered about those Vagabond pilots...
eliminator2	Posted - 2008.01.13 14:39:00 - [64] welcome to the eve today were solo pvp has vanished and ganks and blobs r a go mainly because of anti pirates moanin i carnt kill this guy obn my own i need help hey ccp make it possible to blob them without lettin them have even 1% succses pirates replys hows about no we leave it like this and let the anti-pirates think for them selves and get stronger ccp replys a few weeks later new patch comin out consists of new ships i.e anti-pirate blob ships pirate succeses 2% sorry anti-pirates we do have to give them a chance even if we luv u guys and carebears
Karentaki Gallente federation navy taskforce	Posted - 2008.01.13 15:16:00 - [65] I totally agree with the op - nowadays the only good solo targets I can find are in the 'newbie lowsec' systems where people haven't learnt that the best way to be successful in eve is to blob. It annoys me even more when people blob just for the sake of it. I warped into a belt in my vexor hunting another vexor, about 2 seconds later another 3 ships have showed up to kill me - I still managed to warp before they locked me though. Later, warp to a planet at 100km, and there's a hyperion along with other assorted support there, just waiting to kill my vexor - that time they succeded. Whatever happened to fair fights and solo piracy? ======
Ja'kar MAFIA	Posted - 2008.01.13 17:18:00 - [66] bring back w15 and that will bring back solo
Cpt Branko The Bloody Red	Posted - 2008.01.13 19:06:00 - [67] Originally by: Suitonia If I pirate solo I'd always prefer an Incursus or a Rifter. Or prehaps a Taranis. They are pretty affordable, and can usually fly past most gate camps. If the **** hits the fan then you only lose a couple million. That. I prefer Rifters though, they are preety awesome and I have been caught at a camp... well... never. Now and then I'll use a Rupture solo, but mostly with a couple of other people. Sig removed, inappropriate link. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
Atreides Horza No Fear Buccaneers	Posted - 2008.01.13 19:09:00 - [68] Originally by: Ja'kar bring back w15 and that will bring back solo I fail to see how that would bring anything back except people having to store 1000s of bookmarks on already crammed servers to get by in 0.0, and ofc a shuttle/hauler buffet at every gate in low sec. Warp to 0, if anything, opened the doors to low sec which was a good thing. The problem is, though, that even the biggest moron can see that there's nothing to do in low sec that you can't do in high sec while being safer and earning more money.
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2008.01.13 20:31:00 - [69] Edited by: Le Skunk on 13/01/2008 20:32:59 Originally by: Karentaki I totally agree with the op - nowadays the only good solo targets I can find are in the 'newbie lowsec' systems where people haven't learnt that the best way to be successful in eve is to blob. It annoys me even more when people blob just for the sake of it. I warped into a belt in my vexor hunting another vexor, about 2 seconds later another 3 ships have showed up to kill me - I still managed to warp before they locked me though. Later, warp to a planet at 100km, and there's a hyperion along with other assorted support there, just waiting to kill my vexor - that time they succeded. Whatever happened to fair fights and solo piracy? Well, they aint blobbing you for the sake of it. Those three ships you mentioned probably spent the last 2 hours looking for something to kill bored out of their mind. Do you honestly expect them to go "right we got a vexor, so eveyone stay where they are and ill go solo it in MY deimos. Whats that PJ? Oh you want to solo it in your eagle. Ummm actually, that wont be a fair fight either.... well dock, all get in vexors, then draw straws to see who gets to ... oh **** hes left system" People want pew pew, and THEY WANT IT NOW!! PEW PEW I TELLS YA!! SKUNK
Inertial Blood Reavers	Posted - 2008.01.13 22:11:00 - [70] Originally by: Johnny Gurkha Originally by: Inertial Wait, which foundation got a Nyx? Great Wildlands Foundation? Some other foundation? Yes they do and the pilot is called Mythral... they dropped a Nyx on some friends of mine in VMF-214 Blacksheep about a week or two ago in Edbinger.... talk about overkill, using a MOM for that purpose deserves the loss on principle Rofl, I was in foundation until last wedensday and I didn't know this, after I saw the first post I even searched the killboards and I couldn't find it. I can tell you one thing tough, Foundation is a awesome PVP force, unless you can really bring it, I wouldn't enter GW.

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