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Philipius Maximus DEATH'S LEGION	Posted - 2008.01.08 03:40:00 - [1] Solo piracy is a ***. I recently moved back to a region that I used to base out of. Of course, the area induces strong nostalgia, and it is a wonderful place for a solo pirate... sort of. Over the last four days, I have lost FOUR Sacrileges to blobs; It's becoming incredibly hard to find a decent fight these days. I chose the Sacrilege because of its ability to fit MWD/Web/Scram/Injector and run a nasty tank capable of tanking gate guns for a while. Also, if ** hits the fan, it's not too hard to run... or so I thought. Sac #1 - Phobos and Rax on the gate. They engage. I start on the Rax. By the time he pops, there's 2 hurricanes and a Huginn. I kinda suicided this one. Sac #2 - Travelling through low sec and jump into a camp. Two Ravens, Tempest, Huginn. MWD back to gate. Torps waste me pretty much instantly. (I think cause of the Sig Radius from MWD.) Sac #3 - Attacked a noob Raven on the gate. He was dying. Deimos shows up and wastes me. Gate guns hurt, too. Sac #4 - Warp in on a drake in a belt. Web/Scram, then another drake/stiletto/brutix show up. Granted, some of these loses could have been prevented, but hell, It's a tough life for a solo pirate. Maybe I've just hit a bad streak, who knows. Anyone else having similar experiences? Please share.
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy	Posted - 2008.01.08 03:45:00 - [2] Solo piracy happens at belts... not at gates. You will be blobbed over and over again Originally by: Tarminic Okay, that's it. You are on the KOS list, and you better pray that I don't have access to a locater agent.
Malka Badi'a Suffoco Noctis	Posted - 2008.01.08 03:46:00 - [3] Solo piracy's succession comes in waves. As certain corporations and alliances rotate various regions will feel the effects. And as those corporations split apart or increase in size so do the traffic activity patterns. What I learned was best is to preplot various courses through your hunting session. Check your origonal course and then compare that to the stats provided by your map. What's the Ships Killed stats? Pods destroyed stats? Is there an unusually large presence of ships in the past 30 minutes on one of your system nodes? Reroute. Planning your path a bit ahead will give you quite a few less surprise encouters, especially since you know where the softer (fewer in system) targets will be and where the large gate camps have been waiting for some time. Adapt, and it isn't too bad while the events of that region move by. ---------
Corstaad Minmatar Brutor tribe	Posted - 2008.01.08 03:53:00 - [4] Think low sec solo stuff is all about getting used to the locals. Even in a few months certain systems will change from hotspots to lame camp areas. Alot of the time its six hours of screwing around one hour of straight fights.
Bellum Eternus Gallente Death of Virtue	Posted - 2008.01.08 04:05:00 - [5] If you want a good 'solo' fight and want to push the envelope of your piloting skills, go try killing mission running BS with frigs and cruisers. Bellum Eternus [Vid] L E G E N D A R Y [Vid] L E G E N D A R Y I I
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy	Posted - 2008.01.08 04:37:00 - [6] Originally by: Bellum Eternus If you want a good 'solo' fight and want to push the envelope of your piloting skills, go try killing mission running BS with frigs and cruisers. Just go in with one other BS and a tackling cruiser the less people you use, the less loot you gotta give up Originally by: Tarminic Okay, that's it. You are on the KOS list, and you better pray that I don't have access to a locater agent.
strive nails DEATH'S LEGION	Posted - 2008.01.08 04:49:00 - [7] L2P <3 strive nails - pod killer and implant trader playing EVE on a MacBook Pro
Malena Panic Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2008.01.08 05:25:00 - [8] Not too sure how #3 counts as a blob; it looks to me like you jumped a newb Raven and got jumped in turn by another solo pirate. ...
Crazy Tasty Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2008.01.08 05:25:00 - [9] Just wait till you get a cyno dropped and see 4 capitols in for a single BS. Thanks for that CCP. Get a cov ops alt though, probe mission runners, its a good time.
Ryas Nia Minmatar Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2008.01.08 05:25:00 - [10] Generaly 10+ is "blobed" it sounds like you had bad luck but not one of your losses was to a blob, all were what we like to call "gangs" some were even solo. Such as the lone Demios that killed you.
Arekhon Mutually Assured Distraction	Posted - 2008.01.08 06:07:00 - [11] as others have said, sounds like bad luck m8. solo piracy is tough nowdays, just keep at it man. gang = >6, though your opinion can change if you get caught solo. I think a blob is <10 imo. Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap [BEES]
illusha Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2008.01.08 06:13:00 - [12] Don't attack people on the gates unless you are in a big gang or have a scout on the other side
Karyuudo Tydraad Caldari Whiskey Pete's Drycleaning Services The Acquisition	Posted - 2008.01.08 07:15:00 - [13] Originally by: Crazy Tasty Just wait till you get a cyno dropped and see 4 capitols in for a single BS. Thanks for that CCP. Get a cov ops alt though, probe mission runners, its a good time. Seriously. Getting blobbed by carriers a lot lately. :(
Maya Lingno	Posted - 2008.01.08 07:30:00 - [14] Solo PvP in Belt: Fit A Stealth Bomber, Fly to a Belt in Low Sec, Wait, drink Coffe o a Coke, wait more tinme..... someone warps in... decloak... pop him... cloak. cya in space
Arekhon Mutually Assured Distraction	Posted - 2008.01.08 07:40:00 - [15] Originally by: Maya Lingno Solo PvP in Belt: Fit A Stealth Bomber, Fly to a Belt in Low Sec, Wait, drink Coffe o a Coke, wait more tinme..... someone warps in... decloak... pop him... cloak. cya in space please do...my rapier will wtfpwn a sb allday long Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap [BEES]
Eduoard Dantes	Posted - 2008.01.08 07:46:00 - [16] I think solo-pirates should check in to scanning and mission probing. I've been thinking about it for a while, and I reckon I've got a decent concept for it. You don't need amazing skills for scanning, and many mission runners take more than a few good recon scans to finish up. Probe launchers have high cpu reqs but it is possible to come out with some decent boat-setups, particularly if you take into account the fact that you can gain dps from the local npc's if you fly right, and you plan to fight specific fields of target. For example, I'm working on a Myrmidon setup that uses a triple ECM mids, with no tank. Its risky, but most misson runners won't bring warp scramblers, so you should be ok if things start to go south. Its just an idea for me at the moment, but I think the point is to learn to adapt, and to use the tools available. Pick your target type, and use the tools available to work to the plan. Then a little patience and location research can give you some good kills i think. Correct me if I am wrong.
Arekhon Mutually Assured Distraction	Posted - 2008.01.08 07:57:00 - [17] Edited by: Arekhon on 08/01/2008 07:57:05 Originally by: Eduoard Dantes I think solo-pirates should check in to scanning and mission probing. . your only about 1yr+ behind the curve, but hey you could be canflipping Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap [BEES]
Jhonen Senraedi Minmatar Universal Exports FOUNDATI0N	Posted - 2008.01.08 08:27:00 - [18] Got to love the way..whenever a pirate dies to multiples..it's a blob! However..when a pirate gang..of 8..10....whatever kills a ship...it's all fair. Double Standards...yep!
hellsknights RennTech SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.08 08:39:00 - [19] Hit up 0.0 and look for some lazy ratters.
Setana Manoro Gallente Firefly Inc.	Posted - 2008.01.08 10:13:00 - [20] Originally by: Philipius Maximus Solo piracy is a ***. I recently moved back to a region that I used to base out of. Of course, the area induces strong nostalgia, and it is a wonderful place for a solo pirate... sort of. Over the last four days, I have lost FOUR Sacrileges to blobs; It's becoming incredibly hard to find a decent fight these days. I chose the Sacrilege because of its ability to fit MWD/Web/Scram/Injector and run a nasty tank capable of tanking gate guns for a while. Also, if ** hits the fan, it's not too hard to run... or so I thought. Sac #1 - Phobos and Rax on the gate. They engage. I start on the Rax. By the time he pops, there's 2 hurricanes and a Huginn. I kinda suicided this one. Sac #2 - Travelling through low sec and jump into a camp. Two Ravens, Tempest, Huginn. MWD back to gate. Torps waste me pretty much instantly. (I think cause of the Sig Radius from MWD.) Sac #3 - Attacked a noob Raven on the gate. He was dying. Deimos shows up and wastes me. Gate guns hurt, too. Sac #4 - Warp in on a drake in a belt. Web/Scram, then another drake/stiletto/brutix show up. Granted, some of these loses could have been prevented, but hell, It's a tough life for a solo pirate. Maybe I've just hit a bad streak, who knows. Anyone else having similar experiences? Please share. Solo piracy at gates in a HAC = fail. There is a reason why the "nano-fag" ships are popular in belt piracy. And you also have mission probing, if you have an alt for it. Rifter is not X-Wing CCP. Trinity model kinda sucks.
Atreides Horza No Fear Buccaneers	Posted - 2008.01.08 10:24:00 - [21] Edited by: Atreides Horza on 08/01/2008 10:32:56 Edited by: Atreides Horza on 08/01/2008 10:28:58 Hey there, Phil. This shouldn't be news to you. When your lads lived in Vitrauze, I came across you often - and when I did, it would be in huge gangs, consisting mainly of young players in battleships. Ripe targets when on their own, but dangerous when in groups - and not more than a few months ago, I could've been the one writing your initial post when I engaged a small gang of yours in an ishtar and got hit by a 15+ blob. Put shortly, if I saw you around, I'd be bringing friends for that kill. I don't like EVE being that way - but I'm a realist, and the days of me kindly bending over to the next wonderkid in his****tastic nanohac and his quarterbacks hugging on the next gate are gone. That having been said, I'd like to offer you some ideas and hints as to how you avoid these situations: 1). Choose the right ship for the right job. The HAC line of ships, while nice for roaming, get a lot of attention in local, because they pretty up killboards - and since they're most often nano'ed up their @sses or tanked to hell, people WILL bring the tools needed to get the job done. Hence, the blob. 2). Don't put yourself in silly situations. Getting hit by a deimos at a gate, whilst off'ing a noob raven is IMO a silly situation. 3). Make yourself an attractive target. Roam far away from home, where people are less likely to have mental images of that 30+ alliance blob humping local the night before. Show them that you're interested in a fight, without necessarily parking your @ss at 0 to planet 1. Woe them, romance them, sex them up, and you'll get that little piece of tail more often than not. 4). Make yourself a realistic target. If you're in a ship doing 4000 m/s, dont expect a battlecruiser with a base speed of 200 m/s to come trundling after you. There's a price to being able to disengage at will - pay it or fly something else. 5). Don't play games. Avoid fighting in docking range of stations and jumping range of gates. Make people commit their ships if they want you on their killboard, instead of offering them a way out by docking or bringing friends. 6). Situational awareness. Drake in a belt = be ready to run if local spikes. Everything else in a belt = be ready to run if local spikes. Also, keep close tabs on who's in local. Keep yourself up to scratch with who's flying with who and who's likely to have a gang next door. 7). Choose your fights. You're in a HAC. Most HACs do BS-level damage with little or no tank at all, which means 'kill instantly and gtfo', instead of 'let's stick around and expect to tank everything they throw at me'. If you wanna tank sentries and fight prolonged engagements, use a battlecruiser or a command ship. ... and as for your final conclusion on solo piracy? Yes, it's hard. Damn hard - and it won't get easier. But it sure as hell is fun!
Golden Helmet Caldari Dangerously Insane	Posted - 2008.01.08 10:32:00 - [22] For belt piracy, Inties ftw. Prettymuch everyone ratting in low sec has no clue how to properly fit their ship. Fit a Kinetic hardener (most common damage type), small rep, go up close and kick the nubs around a bit. The only real fights you'll get though is jumping larger gangs of newbies either ratting or looking for kills of their own. Been doing some fun little 2-4v1's with my Crusader, it's really a lot of fun
Tank CEO Caldari Dark Cartel	Posted - 2008.01.08 10:39:00 - [23] Edited by: Tank CEO on 08/01/2008 10:44:48 Where these carebears that ganked you or pirates? I think the carebears or "positve sec" or "pirate hunters" have finally after 5 years learned to fight back, which is why I urge for the removal of sentries at gates. But tbh, the way you were flying, you were just looking for a fight... thats pvp. The real piracy is with black op ships with a alt character scanner to scan down agent runners with goot loot, thats piracy, to make a profit off your kill. ------------- Jita is mine.
Kronarn	Posted - 2008.01.08 10:44:00 - [24] I was tempted the other day while ratting there was a guy mining and i could hear the voice of the dark side calling me, saying " Do it, it wont hurt you, you know you want to, GO ON DOOOO ITTTTTT!!!!!" You know im being pulled further and further into the dark side and I really want to be a pirate but Im resisting cos im not that good and ill get popped straight away. Anyone wanna take on an apprentice?? lol
Cpt Branko The Bloody Red	Posted - 2008.01.08 11:11:00 - [25] Originally by: Atreides Horza Edited by: Atreides Horza on 08/01/2008 10:37:05 Hey there, Phil. This shouldn't be news to you. When your lads lived in Vitrauze, I came across you often - and when I did, it would be in huge gangs, consisting mainly of young players in battleships. Ripe targets when on their own, but dangerous when in groups - and not more than a few months ago, I could've been the one writing your initial post when I engaged a small gang of yours in an ishtar and got hit by a 15+ blob. Put shortly, if I saw you around, I'd be bringing friends for that kill. I don't like EVE being that way - but I'm a realist, and the days of me kindly bending over to the next wonderkid in his****tastic nanohac and his quarterbacks hugging on the next gate are gone. That having been said, I'd like to offer you some ideas and hints as to how you avoid these situations: 1). Choose the right ship for the right job. The HAC line of ships, while nice for roaming, get a lot of attention in local, because they pretty up killboards - and since they're most often nano'ed up their @sses or tanked to hell, people WILL bring the tools needed to get the job done. Hence, the blob. 2). Don't put yourself in silly situations. Getting hit by a deimos at a gate, whilst off'ing a noob raven is IMO a silly situation. 3). Make yourself an attractive target. Roam far away from home, where people are less likely to have mental images of that 30+ alliance blob humping local the night before. Show them that you're interested in a fight, without necessarily parking your @ss at 0 to planet 1. Woe them, romance them, sex them up, and you'll get that little piece of tail more often than not. 4). Make yourself a realistic target. If you're in a ship doing 4000 m/s, dont expect a battlecruiser with a base speed of 200 m/s to come trundling after you. There's a price to being able to disengage at will - pay it or fly something else. 5). Don't play games. Avoid fighting in docking range of stations and jumping range of gates. Make people commit their ships if they want you on their killboard, instead of offering them a way out by docking or bringing friends. 6). Situational awareness. Drake in a belt = be ready to run if local spikes. Everything else in a belt = be ready to run if local spikes. Also, keep close tabs on who's in local. Keep yourself up to scratch with who's flying with who and who's likely to have a gang next door. 7). Choose your fights. You're in a HAC. Most HACs do BS-level damage with little or no tank at all, which means 'kill instantly and gtfo', instead of 'let's stick around and expect to tank everything they throw at me'. If you wanna tank sentries and fight prolonged engagements, use a battlecruiser or a command ship. 8). Be gracious in victory AND defeat, and treat your opponents with as much respect after the fight as you are ruthless in the fight. If you're an arrogant @-hole or if you smack the crap out of local when your blob's next door, people are just gonna leave when you enter local, and that = no fights and no victims. ... and as for your final conclusion on solo piracy? Yes, it's hard. Damn hard - and it won't get easier. But it sure as hell is fun! I subscribe to this poster ;) Also, to the OP: see his points (1) and (4) - flying a Sac preety much guarantees that people will bring in numbers and/or HACs/recons to deal with you. We all know the Sacriledge is a bloody awesome boat, and personally it worries me much more on scanner then a Vagabond/Diemost/Eagle/etc does. Which is the reason I know I won't play with it if I see it, unless I've got a couple of mates ready to jump in and kill it. Rifters!
Oregon sinful The Ankou The Reckoning.	Posted - 2008.01.08 11:14:00 - [26] Originally by: Philipius Maximus Stuff I chose the Sacrilege. Stuff you chose amarr... you chose... ... ... Poorly. Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Cortes POST WITH YOUR MAIN OR STFU
Niffetin Gallente CONsordium Infinate	Posted - 2008.01.08 11:34:00 - [27] Originally by: Atreides Horza You're in a HAC. Most HACs do BS-level damage with little or no tank at all, which means 'kill instantly and gtfo', instead of 'let's stick around and expect to tank everything they throw at me'. If you wanna tank sentries and fight prolonged engagements, use a battlecruiser or a command ship. WTB Hacs that do 1000 DPS --- Teeheee!
Amanda Shadowsword Caldari Chaos Incarnate.	Posted - 2008.01.08 11:37:00 - [28] Originally by: Arekhon Originally by: Maya Lingno Solo PvP in Belt: Fit A Stealth Bomber, Fly to a Belt in Low Sec, Wait, drink Coffe o a Coke, wait more tinme..... someone warps in... decloak... pop him... cloak. cya in space please do...my rapier will wtfpwn a sb allday long please do...my titan will wtfpwn a rapier allday long ================================= [orange]Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Wachtmeister
Cpt Branko The Bloody Red	Posted - 2008.01.08 11:37:00 - [29] Originally by: Niffetin Originally by: Atreides Horza You're in a HAC. Most HACs do BS-level damage with little or no tank at all, which means 'kill instantly and gtfo', instead of 'let's stick around and expect to tank everything they throw at me'. If you wanna tank sentries and fight prolonged engagements, use a battlecruiser or a command ship. WTB Hacs that do 1000 DPS WTS 600ish DPS T2-fit BS fit. Not everything is a torp raven or a gank mega. Rifters!
Niffetin Gallente CONsordium Infinate	Posted - 2008.01.08 11:51:00 - [30] Originally by: Cpt Branko Originally by: Niffetin Originally by: Atreides Horza You're in a HAC. Most HACs do BS-level damage with little or no tank at all, which means 'kill instantly and gtfo', instead of 'let's stick around and expect to tank everything they throw at me'. If you wanna tank sentries and fight prolonged engagements, use a battlecruiser or a command ship. WTB Hacs that do 1000 DPS WTS 600ish DPS T2-fit BS fit. Not everything is a torp raven or a gank mega. Every Amarr BS will do over 600 (Even the Apoc I think ), Phoon will easily do over 600, Tempest just about, Maelstrom will do more. --- Teeheee!

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