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Ghost Nightmare Sons of Damnation	Posted - 2008.01.09 00:10:00 - [31] erm im not much older than them, they are just too lazy to fight me themselves
marie blueprint	Posted - 2008.01.09 00:17:00 - [32] pay me 2 x times what ghost is asking...(ghost contact me in game for negotiations)
Ghost Nightmare Sons of Damnation	Posted - 2008.01.09 00:22:00 - [33] Edited by: Ghost Nightmare on 09/01/2008 00:22:22 lol will do :P, im online now btw
Professor Siebel	Posted - 2008.01.09 05:54:00 - [34] Originally by: nether void A friend and I were thinking about starting a small manufacturing corp, but it's this kind of war deccing I'm thinking that will just kill that idea. Probably instead we'll just stay in newb corps, and make a non-official corp. Then we don't have to put up with crap like this guy's corp has to. I'm as much a carefear as anybody, but why are people forming industrial Corps without muscle? I mean, if the OP's 40 man corp just have a small number, perhaps 6 or 8 combat pilots, Ghost probably wouldn't even bother with him and would move on to an easier target. Pirates, in general, are not out to challenge themselves. Most will turn down tackling a bear, when they can kick puppies instead. Don't be a puppy, be a bear. People who make themselves targets, kinda deserve to be targets.
MirrorGod Heretic Army	Posted - 2008.01.09 07:40:00 - [35] Originally by: Professor Siebel ...why are people forming industrial Corps without whine whine whine... 1) Because it's funny 2) They whine more 3) Hatemail is funny 4) Eve isn't fair, and shouldn't be 5) Eve isn't safe, and shouldn't be 6) Eve isn't nice, and shouldn't be 7) When you dec bear corps, they make threads like this in 3 different forums. 8) Bears do crazy, irrational, and ammusing things when threatened. 9) PvP doesn't need to be consensual 10) This is neither WoW or HKIA That's why. ------------------------------------------ I see all the Young Believers, your target audience... And I see all the Old Deceivers...We all just sing their song!
Fifth Horseman	Posted - 2008.01.09 10:04:00 - [36] Originally by: yosef kaldhu i may be in need of some help against a few small pirate orginisations within the near future soo im looking for anyone willing to help location will be in gallente high sec space (more information be given out in future please contact me in game) Why have you attracted so much attention? What are you going to do if somebody actually dangerous wardecs you?
Kehmor Caldari PAK	Posted - 2008.01.09 11:36:00 - [37] Originally by: Fifth Horseman Originally by: yosef kaldhu i may be in need of some help against a few small pirate orginisations within the near future soo im looking for anyone willing to help location will be in gallente high sec space (more information be given out in future please contact me in game) Why have you attracted so much attention? What are you going to do if somebody actually dangerous wardecs you? There will be other more dangerous pilots around to lend a hand. PAK is recruiting!
Exlegion Caldari New Light Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.09 12:36:00 - [38] Edited by: Exlegion on 09/01/2008 12:38:50 To OP: Join iMune Empire (alliance). Contact Ashley Sky. Lay low for a while to avoid being ganked by other war targets. Let willing PVP'ers confront them. You'll force this corporation to pay high costs in isk for their war. And if they're low on isks (as they say they are) the war won't last long. And they'll also be forced to either fight other PVP'ers or dock themselves. Good luck. Edit: If you decide to take this path, please post your results as I'm very interested in knowing the success of iMune Empire. One of us equals many of us. Disrespect one of us, you'll see plenty of us. - Guru
yosef kaldhu Genesis Trade And Industry Foundation	Posted - 2008.01.09 12:39:00 - [39] i have been contacted by immune and that just a sucky idea i dont want to run and hide, i want to fight my whole corp is willing to fight we .just lack the skills to hold them off for to long this is why im calling for help im not here to complain i understand this goes on i knew it would happen im not a carebear (well i hope im not) and we have combat pilots but as i said we are young and just need assistance
Ghost Nightmare Sons of Damnation	Posted - 2008.01.09 14:45:00 - [40] Looking forward to it, the last 2 pirate/anti-pirate corps paid us before the war started ^^ will make a nice change, especially since its an indy corp
Flashh Gorden Trinity Nova	Posted - 2008.01.09 16:24:00 - [41] We deal with these type of people day in day out. If you want a professional outfit to get these guys off your back contact one of our directors. What ever you do,never ever pay these type of people a single isk.
Fifth Horseman	Posted - 2008.01.09 17:10:00 - [42] Edited by: Fifth Horseman on 09/01/2008 17:12:34 Originally by: Flashh Gorden We deal with these type of people day in day out. If you want a professional outfit to get these guys off your back contact one of our directors. What ever you do,never ever pay these type of people a single isk. Standard merc twaddle. Maths goes like this, you get ransomed for 100 million. You pay, you get left alone. or You pay 300 million for mercs, and then you need to pay them next week too, and the week after, and the week after. The "don't ever pay these types of people" attitude really plays well into standard loser attitude, really the protectioneers need to think up a sales patter that plays into loser attitude, the marketting department sucks. The only time anybody should ever pay a merc is as a very last resort when there is genuinely no other way out of the situation that you cannot achieve by any other means, like if you need a lowsec POS dropping in less than an hour, and you don't do capitals.
Nightmare Trooper	Posted - 2008.01.09 17:17:00 - [43] Why was this guy stupid enough to post in the forums about a 3 man corp wardeccing his 41 man corp? hes just gonna get himself wardecced by harder players and horseman is right, youll pay these mercs a LOT more money, for what? theyll prolly only get about 2 or 3 kills out of these guys, i mean, they clearly arnt stupid (no one throws ships at merc corps ), you need to either pay the money, or, FIGHT THEM YOURSELF
Ghost Nightmare Sons of Damnation	Posted - 2008.01.09 17:18:00 - [44] Youve made a mountain out of a molehill, pay us, or fight us. They are your options
Fifth Horseman	Posted - 2008.01.09 17:28:00 - [45] Originally by: Ghost Nightmare Youve made a mountain out of a molehill, pay us, or fight us. They are your options Really? I know entire alliances that log out and play on their alts if you wardec them.
Ghost Nightmare Sons of Damnation	Posted - 2008.01.09 18:34:00 - [46] those where his options if he didnt want to seem lame :P
yosef kaldhu Genesis Trade And Industry Foundation	Posted - 2008.01.09 18:42:00 - [47] i am goin to fight i am just here to ask for support im sorry for trying to be prepared =]
nether void Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2008.01.09 18:54:00 - [48] This whole thread is funny. If you pay mercs money, they should just split it with the pirates. Then they both get to PvP for free, since you just paid for all their ships. Meanwhile, you guys need to work harder to earn that money back. lol So add a combat arm to your corp? That really doesn't help keep the time investment overhead down. Just more to manage, and keeping that combat arm in equipment. Hmm. More work for the same isk. No thanks. You could do all that industrial work out of an NPC corp, without any risk of high sec piracy...for free. Now it would be different if these guys were a 0.0 alliance. That kind of combat/indi sybiosis sounds like a lot of fun. --------------------------- nethervoid - since '97 [UO\|EQ\|SB\|SWG\|PS\|EVE\|HZ\|NWN\|VG\|WoW]
Cypress Cavalero The Steel Ravens	Posted - 2008.01.09 18:54:00 - [49] pay me, its fun as hell fighting this lot. Hallo ghost:D!!!
Ghost Nightmare Sons of Damnation	Posted - 2008.01.09 19:06:00 - [50] hey buddy long time no see, :P !! Nah i got new drones now ;) so that doesnt work, How ya been, well have to catch up in game
Cypress Cavalero The Steel Ravens	Posted - 2008.01.09 19:23:00 - [51] yeah man speak to you today or summat.
Orar Ironfist Incarnation of Evil Nocturnal Legion	Posted - 2008.01.09 19:31:00 - [52] Originally by: MirrorGod Originally by: Professor Siebel ...why are people forming industrial Corps without whine whine whine... 1) Because it's funny 2) They whine more 3) Hatemail is funny 4) Eve isn't fair, and shouldn't be 5) Eve isn't safe, and shouldn't be 6) Eve isn't nice, and shouldn't be 7) When you dec bear corps, they make threads like this in 3 different forums. 8) Bears do crazy, irrational, and ammusing things when threatened. 9) PvP doesn't need to be consensual 10) This is neither WoW or HKIA That's why. This Also we love kicking puppies...I even beat puppies with sacs of kittens but bears aint no different then puppies except that bears bring more target...I mean friends Please dear god mods dont nerf this sig too its the 6th freakin one ive put up
Windjammer	Posted - 2008.01.09 20:16:00 - [53] Originally by: yosef kaldhu Edited by: yosef kaldhu on 09/01/2008 19:51:05 I have been contacted by Imune empire and that just a cowardly idea I donÆt want to run and hide, I want to fight my whole corp is willing to fight we .just lack the skills to hold them off for to long this is why IÆm calling for help IÆm not here to complain I understand this goes on I knew it would happen IÆm not a carebear (well I hope IÆm not) and we have combat pilots but as I said we are young and just need assistance You're missing what Ghost and his squeakers are trying to achieve. The don't actually want to fight you. That's a secondary issue for them. The primary goal is getting you to pay isk to them. This gives them an ego stroke and fattens their wallet slightly. If you try to fight this type of pirate they run if they think there's a chance they'll lose. They're usually very good at running and using high sec mechanics to protect themselves. If they lose, they lose face and isk, right? I once saw a single pirate corp. war deced by four corporations for 4 weeks, one of which was another pirate corp. This single pirate, logged on and was in space regularly, was probed, chased and shot at and not once did this pirate lose her/his t1 frigate. A single pirate can cause disruption to an entire corps mining efforts and then run without losing a single ship. If you fight these guys, you're wasting your time. As you've already concluded, paying them is far more costly than the simple loss of isk. There is a great deal more to this game than accumulation of isk. Something a large number of pirates don't understand. Options, such as joining another alliance, are not cowardly options. Your opponent is using game mechanics, the vulnerability of mining ships, and so should you. Just because you join an alliance, even iMune, does not mean you can't also fight.
Exlegion Caldari New Light Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.09 20:30:00 - [54] Originally by: Fifth Horseman Edited by: Fifth Horseman on 09/01/2008 17:12:34 Originally by: Flashh Gorden We deal with these type of people day in day out. If you want a professional outfit to get these guys off your back contact one of our directors. What ever you do,never ever pay these type of people a single isk. Standard merc twaddle. Maths goes like this, you get ransomed for 100 million. You pay, you get left alone. or You pay 300 million for mercs, and then you need to pay them next week too, and the week after, and the week after. The "don't ever pay these types of people" attitude really plays well into standard loser attitude, really the protectioneers need to think up a sales patter that plays into loser attitude, the marketting department sucks. The only time anybody should ever pay a merc is as a very last resort when there is genuinely no other way out of the situation that you cannot achieve by any other means, like if you need a lowsec POS dropping in less than an hour, and you don't do capitals. When my corporation was starting up we were war dec'd by a pirate corp who presented your spin on things. My CEO ended paying the ransom to save the corp from slaughter at the hands of a more powerful pirate corp in high sec. The following week we were war dec'd by 3 (yes, THREE) pirate corps all requesting ransom as well . I bet you don't consider your spin Originally by: Fifth Horseman Standard pirate twaddle. though, right? One of us equals many of us. Disrespect one of us, you'll see plenty of us. - Guru
Ghost Nightmare Sons of Damnation	Posted - 2008.01.09 20:38:00 - [55] Is it just me? or does the core of this thread fail
yosef kaldhu Genesis Trade And Industry Foundation	Posted - 2008.01.09 20:43:00 - [56] Originally by: Ghost Nightmare Is it just me? or does the core of this thread fail You would sinse alot are opposing your tactics, and why won't you link me to you killboard anymore you showed it off so much when we first spoke what has changed????
Agazoth III	Posted - 2008.01.09 21:24:00 - [57] By advanced gurilla tactics do you mean you have a cloak fitted on your BS .
nether void Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2008.01.09 21:26:00 - [58] Lol are you blasting this guy to hell now? You should ransom him. Hahahaha! Now that would be funny! --------------------------- nethervoid - since '97 [UO\|EQ\|SB\|SWG\|PS\|EVE\|HZ\|NWN\|VG\|WoW]
yosef kaldhu Genesis Trade And Industry Foundation	Posted - 2008.01.09 21:29:00 - [59] Originally by: Agazoth III By advanced gurilla tactics do you mean you have a cloak fitted on your BS . Who mentioned advanced gurilla tactics and a clocked bs would be funny maybe more funny if he came down and 10 of them uncloacked on him =] No shooting has started yet hve to wait till tomoro im afraid
Ghost Nightmare Sons of Damnation	Posted - 2008.01.09 21:42:00 - [60] i didint say advanced gurilla tactics :P, and no

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