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Leandro Salazar
Aeon Industries
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Posted - 2008.01.11 08:04:00 -
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 Originally by: Sasha Saucer
Get a clue already and have fun or GTFO.
What you seem to be missing is that me and a lot of others are having plenty of fun running missions solo in our pimp rides. And at least for me, after having tasted the Gist/Officer fittings, using anything less will only mean less fun. So in the end I can only run group missions with people I 100% trust. Which are few and far between in EVE regrettably.
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Tranka Verrane
Public Venture Enterprises
Safe And Fun Environment
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Posted - 2008.01.11 22:21:00 -
[32]
Originally by: Leandro Salazar
Originally by: Sasha Saucer
Get a clue already and have fun or GTFO.
What you seem to be missing is that me and a lot of others are having plenty of fun running missions solo in our pimp rides. And at least for me, after having tasted the Gist/Officer fittings, using anything less will only mean less fun. So in the end I can only run group missions with people I 100% trust. Which are few and far between in EVE regrettably.
I can run all l4 missions solo one hand tied behind my back and I have more isk than I need. I'm bored of it all . For me PVP is slow and the only fun thing left in the game is hammering through these missions quickly in a gang. As I can't find ppl to mission with I repeat I am getting less and less inclined to bother with the game at all.
Until l5 becomes worth people's while or PVP faction missions come out my whole reason for playing the game has vanished. I posted originally in an enquiry to whether I was alone in this; so far either you guys aren't getting it, or the answer is mostly that I am.
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Leandro Salazar
Aeon Industries
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Posted - 2008.01.11 22:50:00 -
[33]
Originally by: Tranka Verrane
Originally by: Leandro Salazar
Originally by: Sasha Saucer
Get a clue already and have fun or GTFO.
What you seem to be missing is that me and a lot of others are having plenty of fun running missions solo in our pimp rides. And at least for me, after having tasted the Gist/Officer fittings, using anything less will only mean less fun. So in the end I can only run group missions with people I 100% trust. Which are few and far between in EVE regrettably.
I can run all l4 missions solo one hand tied behind my back and I have more isk than I need. I'm bored of it all . For me PVP is slow and the only fun thing left in the game is hammering through these missions quickly in a gang. As I can't find ppl to mission with I repeat I am getting less and less inclined to bother with the game at all.
Until l5 becomes worth people's while or PVP faction missions come out my whole reason for playing the game has vanished. I posted originally in an enquiry to whether I was alone in this; so far either you guys aren't getting it, or the answer is mostly that I am.
You probably are pretty much alone in that. Even after more than 2 years of faction ships, I still find running missions as fast as possible fun to do, and there are still so many expensive items for me to buy that I won't have 'more money than I need' ever probably. If you have too much, just send it to me, my item collection would love that :D
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WardogX
Minmatar
Outkasts
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Posted - 2008.01.12 03:06:00 -
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Grouping with friends can kill boredom in any game. If you do it to hang out with friends, more power to you.. it is cool hangin with friends relaxing and laughing.
But lets face it.. the way isk gets split in groups on these missions.. and as little as you actually make for the amount of time invested. (5-50 mill solo .. per run) its really not big cash to begin with.. 2 people and that money is split down the middle. Whats the point of running missions if not for standing, lp and cash. If you can do it solo and reap 100% of the already meager benefits.. why group? Just get on ventrillo/teamspeak with your friends and chat with them while you solo.. same effect and you don't stay bored while you play.
PS: Also the bigger the group you get in.. the more impatient everyone gets.. everyone just wants to start leaving random loot and never salvage and just go for sheer missions speed one after the other.. which kills you cash even worse.
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Tranka Verrane
Public Venture Enterprises
Safe And Fun Environment
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Posted - 2008.01.12 11:20:00 -
[35]
Originally by: WardogX
Grouping with friends can kill boredom in any game. If you do it to hang out with friends, more power to you.. it is cool hangin with friends relaxing and laughing.
But lets face it.. the way isk gets split in groups on these missions.. and as little as you actually make for the amount of time invested. (5-50 mill solo .. per run) its really not big cash to begin with.. 2 people and that money is split down the middle. Whats the point of running missions if not for standing, lp and cash. If you can do it solo and reap 100% of the already meager benefits.. why group? Just get on ventrillo/teamspeak with your friends and chat with them while you solo.. same effect and you don't stay bored while you play.
PS: Also the bigger the group you get in.. the more impatient everyone gets.. everyone just wants to start leaving random loot and never salvage and just go for sheer missions speed one after the other.. which kills you cash even worse.
Firstly, two people missioning together can do the everage mission over twice as fast as solo. Secondly it is a way of assisting newer players who may not be able to tank a mission solo but still put out decent dps. Thirdly there is no need to do the dull bit of a mission, the salvaging and looting, if you have a third, newer still, player following behind.
I find I can make almost the same money running in a group as I can solo, and I have ten times the fun and satisfaction.
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Carniflex
Caldari
Fallout Research
Fallout Project
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Posted - 2008.01.13 11:14:00 -
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Adding second pilot usually does not equate twice as fast missionrunning. There is only so many targets to kill and adding more people does not make travel times between the gates and warping to and from missions any faster.
If you can make missions really fast then it is actually more profitable to run next mission than slowboating around and collecting random loot and salvage. Ofc there is some missions where looting is reasonable (like EoM, mercks, drone battleships) assuming you dont have to travel long distances for that loot. In groups however it might be good idea to get separate pilot for loot collection. Third or fourth ship in missions would be propably more profitable as looter-salvager than damage dealer for your average level 4 mission. Especially so if it's highly skilled pilot capable of doing so in marauder class ship, as those can tank a lot and would still be able to use his drones on combat pilot in either 'guard' or 'assist' mode.
Running missions in group is actually better entertainment than just chatting in TS and running them solo, as it adds another layer of interaction. However mission running as form of pilot entertainment is well ... I mean one would not do it for fun, right? It's all about isk. Altho I must admit that there is some people out there who enjoy mining also so I do not see why not some people out there who do missions for fun.
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Skule
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Posted - 2008.01.15 11:13:00 -
[37]
Send me a mail in game or convo me, name is Skule. Ill run lvl 4's with ya. I have 24 mil SP, and a nicely equiped CNR.
Thanks
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Akorin
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.01.15 13:37:00 -
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Originally by: Carniflex
Adding second pilot usually does not equate twice as fast missionrunning. There is only so many targets to kill and adding more people does not make travel times between the gates and warping to and from missions any faster.
In my experience it does.. Travel time to gates doesn't get cut, granted but warp in time is negligible. Having a second player that can dedicate their entire setup to dps however means we can cut through battleships like they're butter where normally it'd take quite a long time.
I for one love mission running with a group but rl is currently taking up too much of my time to do more than one or two missions a night :\
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Xeronn
Amarr
Free Market Enterprizes
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.01.16 08:45:00 -
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tranka..try 0.0 for a fresh new challange? 0.0 exploration , complexes , pirate faction missions , if you enjoy PvE , that ain`t dead my friend..and group PvE at least for 0.0 plexes and explorations is a MUST
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Elrich Zann
Minmatar
Hidden Agenda
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Posted - 2008.01.16 09:28:00 -
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Well you asked an honest question, so I'll give you an honest answer. I prefer running missions in groups over running them solo. I willingly group people in my corp into lvl 4 missions and enjoy doing it. I find missions with others to be far more fun than running them alone. But there's the rub, ONLY people in my corp. I will not group with non-corp members.
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Tranka Verrane
Public Venture Enterprises
Safe And Fun Environment
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Posted - 2008.01.16 11:13:00 -
[41]
Thx for posting, Elrich.
If there are people gang mission running out there why are there so few decent size mission runner corps?
Having said that if the response here is anything to go by we are a rare breed, even within a corp.
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oplus
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Posted - 2008.01.16 11:50:00 -
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I enjoy running missions solo or group. What ever gets the job done really :D. As for trust excuse people where on about. I run in 0.5 and below usually i've grouped with people not been shot once by another player (while mission running lol). So if your scared of interacting with people for a tiny chance you might get popped . You might aswell play single player games.
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Xykanth Roldeir
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Posted - 2008.01.16 12:55:00 -
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I've been starting up a mission running career lately. It's an interesting pastime. I would like to find a group though to go and run some missions with as well.
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Loc Maythan
Gallente
AlfaCorp
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Posted - 2008.01.16 14:54:00 -
[44]
As a dedicated drone user, I generally prefer to fly solo for a number of reasons:
1) It is easier to manage aggro - I know what aggro I have (usually all of it at once) and thus, when it is safe to launch my drones.
2) Some missions which are drone-friendly solo turn drone-unfriendly in a fleet - seen this happen in most "drone-friendly" missions with multiple waves.
3) As someone who generally salvages, the wrecks are more densly packed when done solo than in a fleet of mixed ability ships. For example, people using guns tend to have to fly around all over the place to keep rats at range, and people with missiles tend to blow things up further away than drones.
I will do fleet missions for corp training purposes, for a bit of company, or for helping people boost their standings, but solo is my preferred mode.
Loc.
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Par'Gellen
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.01.16 15:20:00 -
[45]
Mission partners are fun but keep in mind that there are two main reasons to run missions.
1. Fun with buddies.
2. Profit from concentrated lp/bounties and looting and salvaging the mission after it has been completed.
Since buddies usually aren't patient enough to wait for you to sweep up a mission after it's done that's why you see most people running them solo. Also if you try to sweep as a team it gets stupidly confusing. I run missions both ways depending on my mood. If I need isk I do them solo. If I just want to have some fun I run in a group.
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Shemaul
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Posted - 2008.01.16 19:31:00 -
[46]
Originally by: KinkyRefine
I do enjoy doing missions in groups, but its not so easy finding people to trust.
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Arazel Chainfire
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Posted - 2008.01.16 20:25:00 -
[47]
When i first started out with mission running, I'd go out with other people because i couldn't handle the missions. However, one of my goals was to be able to solo run lvl 4 missions. Why do i do them solo?
A. Most of my corp is European, I'm on the east coast of the US... so its often difficult to find someone else online who wants to do it.
B. There is the challenge of running the mission to prove that yes, you have what it takes to solo that tough mission.
C. The rewards for running a mission solo are significantly greater than running them in a group, especially when other members of the group don't know missions well and mismanage aggro and such. Also, I fly a raven for my missions, and the general tactic is to sit there and spam missiles or slow boat it to the gate. Other members of my corp use mostly drone boats, which use much different tactics. And gunships tend to run around so much that they're fairly incompatible with how a missileboat is flown.
Would I like to do them in a group? Yes, but only with someone of approximately equal skill, because I hate it when either I'm so far ahead of the people i'm with that they might as well not be there, or when i'm with someone else who does so much dps that it ruins my e-peen :P.
-Arazel
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Byzan Zwyth
Dark Centuri Inc.
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2008.01.16 21:50:00 -
[48]
used to have a lot of fun blasting through lvl4's with 4-5 people in and old corp. We did them so fast bounties were worth it and all loot went to the corp. This was before LP sharing, it would be hard to do if everyone wants there exact cut of the profit.
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Jason Vithar
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Posted - 2008.01.17 00:30:00 -
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Hey Tranka, from my own experiences in Eve i can say there is not one aspect of the game I havent tried for at least a significant peroid of time, I run two accounts now, and have done PvE (solo lvl 4's, two account, and gang) PvP (0.0 and raiding style into low sec from empire), Trade with freighters, mining, production, and so forth...I get where you are coming from btw. Once you break that barrier, when Lvl 4 missions become yawn soloable and you can stop focusing and even watch tv or go get a beer from fridge knowing your tank will hold for at least two mins before cap becomes and issue they begin to become less of a fun part of the game and more of a...well routine. Hence if im low on isk i grind solo (with two accounts now), or rat in low sec, personally i like being able to watch a movie instead of constantly having to watch local. However if im ok on isk I much prefer having a wingman for all the reasons you mentioned, chat, good isk shared between each player. Though ill be honest i tend to avoid more than 2-3 man gangs, things tend to get slowed down and isk/person drops fast. I will run two man lvl 4s for fun even if i have billions of isk, but if i dont need too I wont mission grind alone, I tend to use my isk to build ships to stockpile for pvp, I already have 2-3 ships that will solo missions easily and dont see the need to spend isk to improve their fittings, let alone the additon of a second account which speeds up the process, faction gear would just be overkill...Strange that you cant find a corp that likes to encourage group mission running. Just joined one recently (this is an alt btw, not in corp) whose main emphasis is on industry and mission runing, only been in the corp a week or so and have had at least 2 peeps offering to help me out with standings and seems to be a common thing group mission runs. Wont try recruit here, but they might be for you, so if you want their info id be happy to evemail u in game. Best of luck finding what you are looking for out the game anyway
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Solomunio Kzenig
Amarr
Ordo Ministorum
MERCURY RISING.
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Posted - 2008.01.17 11:34:00 -
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Ganging on Missions can be fun, tough I only gang with Corp/Alliance mates. Last night I helped an Allinace m8 with a lvl3 10/10 storyline mission (kidnappers something or other), I ran a BS and an Alt with an Exquror as remote rep support. Cleared the last room out real quick, luckly as I suffered allmost instant GID afterwards (Girlfriend Induced Disconnect) . Often we'd run the tougher missions like Worlds Collide in 4-6 ship gangs for fun n' giggles, that way we can blast through a load of lvl4's.
One Empire, One Emperor, One People, Forever under Heaven. Amarr Aeternus.
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Iron Wraith
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Posted - 2008.01.17 12:18:00 -
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I used to do quite a bit of mission grouping before the devs split up the agents in my home system. we had a nice community built up in there with the lvl3 and 4 agents. so when i was starting out on lvl4 missions there was always someone to team up with.
when the agent split patch hit us one of the guys in local had the last angel ganza lvl4 still on his board, so a group of us did that as a new years eve party  . i took my no tank blasterthron with 3 webs and 3 nano's out, its like flying a cruiser, being able to web and hit spider drones and of course with the t2 neuts on top doing insane damage. we had a great time, found out a vexor cant tank a lvl4 ganza even with our logistics ship (not enough hp buffer) and that if i jumped in first i could pop a BS before i had to bug out
of course that was before this lofty person you all speak of. after the agent split i didnt do much more missioning and moved out to 0.0 with my first alliance.
since i've returned to eve i was messing about with a trial account and bumped into a low sec status one year old player. we did a few missions together with him boosing my shields with his drones and my little newbie destroyer trying to tank lvl2 missions in a low sec system. flying the most expensive ship my little newbie owned into low sec with a low sec player was kinda scary, but we had fun and i didnt get shot in the back . oh yeah, a newbie in a destroyer needs to get the shield repping drones on him real freakin fast, those rats were forcing me to warp out before my wingman had got a lock on me at times
i dont have a BS at the mo (that and my other ships are stuck in an outpost deep on 0.0), but when i do i'd like to do some lvl4's with a few friends, so maybe i'll give some of you lot a poke when i'm ready . i can fit a mean dps ship with no regard to personal safety and able to get them pesky ceptors , a good wingman for a tanker 
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Caldari
Vitai Lampada
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Posted - 2008.01.17 14:39:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Lynkon Lawg
As a lvl 4 mission runner on the eastern seaboard of the US, it's tough for me to find people to group with as well. If this is your time frame, let me know. I'd be up for some group action.
sounds like lonely hearts in here
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Derek Jould
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Posted - 2008.01.17 16:24:00 -
[53]
Firstly, two people missioning together can do the everage mission over twice as fast as solo. Secondly it is a way of assisting newer players who may not be able to tank a mission solo but still put out decent dps. Thirdly there is no need to do the dull bit of a mission, the salvaging and looting, if you have a third, newer still, player following behind.
I find I can make almost the same money running in a group as I can solo, and I have ten times the fun and satisfaction.
I love the idea of group mission runs. As a new player I'm looking to join in on exactly that. I think most new players, (myself included) are a bit over-whelmed with the game mechanics and scope of EVE and to be able to find a corp is more on the plate than perhaps we can deal with easily.
I'm currently barely able to handle level 3's and so for me I really want to group. Hell I like the salvage and looting part and have the skills to do so fast.
So many corps advertise it's hard to know where to look. I've had offers to 'join' for a small fee and 25% of my earnings. Hmmm not exactly appealing, so I'm solo at the moment but after reading your post I'd be very interested in flying with you if you don't mind a Caracal.
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Leandro Salazar
Aeon Industries
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Posted - 2008.01.17 17:49:00 -
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Tbh for newer players with crap gear, running as a team is not even so much of a problem. But the better your ship gets, the more risky running with others gets, and there is a certain point at which the risks definitely outweigh the gains, at least if you are in it for the moolah.
Also, you do NOT half your completion times by running as a team of two. You might half the time it takes to destroy the NPCs if both ships have the same efficiency, but the time it takes to warp to the mission and back home, or to the gates to the nextdoor system that has most of the missions I run, or the time for gate travel, is constant and especially if you run with two people almost as long as you take to kill the NPCs. In fact I run with my buddy in his silly CNR which fits no AB, so those missions with 70km gate treks might even take LONGER by having him along lol.
There is no 'n' in turret
There is no 'r' in faction
There is no 'a' in Scorpion
There is no 'e' in Caldari
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Tranka Verrane
Public Venture Enterprises
Safe And Fun Environment
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Posted - 2008.01.17 17:49:00 -
[55]
Come to channel PVE if you want to catch up with us ingame.
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Joe Starbreaker
Starbreaker Spaceways
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Posted - 2008.01.18 06:35:00 -
[56]
I do this. In fact it's about the only thing that makes missions bearable. It's also my primary recruiting mechanism:
1) chat with people on local
2) gang up to do missions
3) ...
4) recruits!
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Leandro Salazar
Aeon Industries
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Posted - 2008.01.18 07:51:00 -
[57]
Originally by: Joe Starbreaker
I do this. In fact it's about the only thing that makes missions bearable. It's also my primary recruiting mechanism:
1) chat with people on local
2) gang up to do missions
3) ...
4) recruits!
Lemme finish it for you:
5) corp thieves
6) ganked pimp ships
7) tears
And yes I am paranoid. And there are two people in EVE: The paranoid and the poor ;)
There is no 'n' in turret
There is no 'r' in faction
There is no 'a' in Scorpion
There is no 'e' in Caldari
There is no makeup in rogue drones |
Conspectus
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Posted - 2008.01.18 11:13:00 -
[58]
I might be interested. I'll send you a mail in game.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.01.18 11:58:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Leandro Salazar
5) corp thieves
6) ganked pimp ships
7) tears
And yes I am paranoid. And there are two people in EVE: The paranoid and the poor ;)
See, this is why:
a) nobody gets rights he doesn't need (ask me, give a reason, and you might receive), and by default nobody needs more than junior accountant and "take from recycle bin hangar"
b) total value of assets in "generally accessible" hangars (some generic modules, ammo and such) is fairly low to begin with, and the corp's not rich either (compared to individual members anyway, that is)
c) directors are only people I personally know in real-life, or have played with for so long, that if they rob the corp dry, it would kind of not matter compared to the "sentimental" loss
d) I urge people to NOT fly "uberpimped" ships at all in the first place (war rules apply at any given time - if you undock, expect to lose it, even if very unlikely)... and when you do missions in teams, regular T2 fitings is really all it takes
Theoretically, you could say I'm actually even more paranoid as you are 
Still, I don't mind letting (more or less) random people join. I just take... precautions.
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Raxxius Maelstrom
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Posted - 2008.01.18 12:12:00 -
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just to add, dual boxing a mission can be more than twice as quick as solo because you can fit one ship for tank, and the other for pure gank.
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