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Jebidus Skari
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Posted - 2004.03.22 00:12:00 -
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To poorly translate an icelandic saying "many think that I am they" (what it means is that you put words into my mouth that you would yourself have uttered had you been in my position).
Not to be confused with the more common american saying "many think that I am ghey" 
lol 
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Athule Snanm
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Posted - 2004.03.22 00:18:00 -
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also anyone with a brain knows they cant kill jf never mind fiscaly hurt them, its impossible because all u do is fight in frigs, now u can say thats smart, i simply see it as being cowardly, when i was incharge of EPA we gave nva horriffic losses, EPA was 12ppl strong, jf have a hell of alot more than that so the excuse u used when we spoke that u cant afford to fight a war usin battleships has absoloutly no merit.
Actually, standing orders for the first day or two was no flying in anything bigger than a cruiser. It quickly became apparent however that FE was going to spend no effort on us whatsoever so most of us have been tootling about our normal business since, other than the ones that visited your home system. If not lining up to be blobbed in Obe by a corporation that declared war on us is cowardice, then fair enough.
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hupa
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Posted - 2004.03.22 00:34:00 -
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also anyone with a brain knows they cant kill jf never mind fiscaly hurt them, its impossible because all u do is fight in frigs, now u can say thats smart, i simply see it as being cowardly, when i was incharge of EPA we gave nva horriffic losses, EPA was 12ppl strong, jf have a hell of alot more than that so the excuse u used when we spoke that u cant afford to fight a war usin battleships has absoloutly no merit.
Actually, standing orders for the first day or two was no flying in anything bigger than a cruiser. It quickly became apparent however that FE was going to spend no effort on us whatsoever so most of us have been tootling about our normal business since, other than the ones that visited your home system. If not lining up to be blobbed in Obe by a corporation that declared war on us is cowardice, then fair enough.
heh if i was u i wouldnt go near the obe/p3en area either, thats just smart
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.03.22 00:34:00 -
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first off i wasnt there jade, actualy i dont beleive ive fired on anyone in jf since EPA, secoundly we were out to fiscaly destroy u heh, get real and i certinaly never asked merc frigs to attack you.
Hupa, by "you were there" I kinda meant "there" in the "had a clue what was going on sense" since you were involved in latter discussions. As for the "fiscal destruction" thing. Well, I can only go on what your corporate PR people posted. Its there in black and white at the link.
But I know,
It was silly people saying silly things.
;)
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.03.22 02:39:00 -
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War pfft
jf lost 1(typhoon) maybe another uncomfirmed bs and some criusers/frigates
F-E lost little except havo pride taking a little dent ;)
Haha, you guys always make me chuckle ... a 2nd mystery battleship ;) The point being we hunted you, not the other way around. And I spent quite a while looking for targets in OBE/P3 and up and we did come searching. And re the MF/FE thing ... we consider you the same alliance and corporation really. Because your share the same assets and pilots. You might think differently but this is the way we see it.
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limpy bint
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Posted - 2004.03.22 03:12:00 -
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Its a simple question, you either killed something significant or you didnt. I'm gonna have to assume you didnt :P
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Rayvenous
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Posted - 2004.03.22 07:48:00 -
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Whatever ...
As usual in forum wars no one is interested in the thruth and denies knowledge.
I would say it¦s about time to lock this thread before anything bad comes from it ...
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s0cks
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Posted - 2004.03.22 09:02:00 -
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LOL
Its just a game... give a sh*t wot anyone thinks. FE started a war, FE ended a war. Thats it. They did cus they could.. there's no moral or political reasons - they were sat at their desk and they clicked declare war. Some people take this game way too seriously.
Oh no - "FE have lost respect and their dignity to some Eve players" - like they give a sh*t.
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Tatsue Nuko
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Posted - 2004.03.22 10:18:00 -
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Edited by: Tatsue Nuko on 22/03/2004 10:20:01
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Its just a game... give a sh*t wot anyone thinks. FE started a war, FE ended a war. Thats it. They did cus they could.. there's no moral or political reasons - they were sat at their desk and they clicked declare war. Some people take this game way too seriously.
Oh no - "FE have lost respect and their dignity to some Eve players" - like they give a sh*t.
Well, since you replied (okey, spammed) you obviously do care. Now for the relevat issues:
Yes, it's a game. Public Relations is part of the game. If that ****es you off, play C&C or Quake.
And for the record, to do something "because you can" may not be a "moral reason", but it does state quite alot about the morals of the person behind the action (or the character behind the action, but my impression is that neither F-E nor yourselves in MF roleplay, so it's left to the IRL person).
And as for the effort of writing lengthy posts (as Jade has done on every oppurtunity, which has granted myself much pleasant reading), some people are quite quick to establish a train of thought for a post, and when that is combined with an ability to type quickly, writing long posts is not an "effort", it's a "pleasure" - though a pleasure that is over far to quickly. And as for reading it, some people tend to like the original novels better than the movies based on the novels, and a Jade-post(tm) - being only a few pages at the most - is a quick thing in comparison.
Read the "speech of John Galt" in Ayn Rand's novel Atlas Shrugged. A monologue of 50 tightly packed pages (with advanced language and a lot of philosophic weight thrown around) should have you crawling back, begging for Jade to post something as short as a page or three.
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Grimster
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Posted - 2004.03.22 11:19:00 -
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Some things I feel necessary to point out, MF is a separate entity to F-E and the two should not be considered the same
I've been saying this for weeks.
ad nauseum.
Jade insists otherwise so she must be right??? 
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Tyrrax Thorrk
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Posted - 2004.03.22 11:43:00 -
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Hupa sayeth:
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we also agreed that neither party should post about each others corps for a few weeks so that things could cool down, u broke ur word on that, i keep to facts and i dont f**k about.
Did anybody notice that ? I'm curious as to whether this is true or a misunderstanding/lie...
Chatlog anybody ? Jade comment ? Ignore ?
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Hanns
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Posted - 2004.03.22 12:38:00 -
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Oh yeah man we got our butts kicked. We could not pay the fuel costs of our ships chasing JF ships everywhere.
ROFL...
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Techie Zero
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Posted - 2004.03.22 12:45:00 -
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LOL Dignity?!?!? Is that some sort of new ship class Dignity?
You know what it is when you find it
Besides if you don't care about how people view your action and/or character then why do you keep replying to this thread?
Because it's fun and funny! Why do we play at all? When it stops being fun, maybe I will stop!
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Azure Skyclad
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Posted - 2004.03.22 13:21:00 -
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Edited by: Azure Skyclad on 22/03/2004 13:22:27
Techie
I appreciate the time you took to qualify your responses. It does help confirm something one felt compelled to consider with regard to your responses.
They're just a piece of fun and don't really mean anything so it's safe to ignore them insofar as they add nothing of consequence to the debate.
Paradoxes are wonderful.
Once again, my thanks to you sir. 
La Maison de tous Les Plaisirs
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.03.22 13:31:00 -
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Perceptive ms Skyclad! (and quite correct) Sadly mr Zero made his purpose clear in the first response to this thread, and hence is best ignored hereafter.
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Azure Skyclad
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Posted - 2004.03.22 13:57:00 -
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Could you furnish me with the name of your supplier please Techie?
The topical application you employ upon your poor, chafed knuckles must be a formidable concoction!
La Maison de tous Les Plaisirs
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.03.22 14:28:00 -
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LOL - keep it up
Anyone would think you were desperate for a little more attention s0cks? ;)
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Darwin
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Posted - 2004.03.22 15:33:00 -
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*F-E Moons all of EVE!!! Blah Blah..... Talk with your Guns Nubs!! We like ****ing you off. Thats our Place. Maybe someday someone will attack us... Come on already what do we have to do to **** you off???? Stop talking lets Fliping fight already... Hell CCP gives you 40% insurance for free so you Fourm Fighter would grow some Nuts...
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Mitchello
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Posted - 2004.03.22 15:45:00 -
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we are pleased that peace has prevailed, a welcome outcome to the legal feud between your two great powers.
And we are quite impressed by you Jade Constantine. May prosperity continue to trail you like the ribbon of a shooting star.
Mitchello
Caldari Technological Division
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.03.22 15:59:00 -
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Anyone would think you were desperate for a little more attention s0cks? ;)
Isn't that wot girls always want 
On that we can agree ...
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Lallante
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Posted - 2004.03.22 16:56:00 -
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this thread is a joke! It has to be.
F-E takes on m0o on a regular bases (and has many kills of people we ALL have heard of), JF are just an embaressing bunch of frig pilots with impressive forum whoring abilities. They were a waste of F-E time and war slots.
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ShinRa
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Walking Contradiction
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Posted - 2004.03.22 17:01:00 -
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F-E takes on m0o on a regular bases (and has many kills of people we ALL have heard of)
You're a joke!
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.03.22 18:18:00 -
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this thread is a joke! It has to be.
F-E takes on m0o on a regular bases (and has many kills of people we ALL have heard of), JF are just an embaressing bunch of frig pilots with impressive forum whoring abilities. They were a waste of F-E time and war slots.
But who believes "kill posts" Lallante? Its all just propaganda at the end of the day and lots of silly macho chaps claiming that modern combat has something to do with honour and courage and single code duello. But its interesting you reach the conclusions you have now after two weeks rather than stating them at the outset, non? Evolution in action. ;)
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Eris Discordia
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Posted - 2004.03.23 01:47:00 -
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Please keep the discussions on-topic and the replies friendly. The cleanup team wont be available at all times
Thank you
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.03.23 01:59:00 -
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A big thank you to the moderators for cleaning up this thread. And I would like to ask people very nicely, please don't post unneccessary stuff here. If you want a sensible discussion about the end of the war, then fine, lets debate. But it really isn't the place for silly baiting and oneupmanship.
Thanks in advance
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.03.23 10:41:00 -
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So, what were the kills/losses scored?
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Jasmine Constantine
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Posted - 2004.03.23 11:07:00 -
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Edited by: Jasmine Constantine on 23/03/2004 11:08:29
I don't think either side were keeping a score as such.
F-E declared war and stated their aims...They did not realise those aims.
F-E retracted the war
(Edited for typo)
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Silverado19
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Posted - 2004.03.23 13:24:00 -
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Deep within this topic lies the reasons that the F-E will eventually fall. With Hupa's own admission,the so called leaders of F-E knew nothing about what was going on with this war. I wont get into more details on this post, but this was not the first time that this has happened and with my dealings with mr. Hupa, Darwin, Bjorn, & Zen later....it wont be the last. Even though Huff members of the F-E had somewhat recognized this previously, this fiasco with JF made us even more aware of the problems with F-E leadership. It wasn''t the final straw that made the Huff crew decide to go back out on their own, but it was certainly an image to us of things to come. Good luck to all F-E in the future.
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Azure Skyclad
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Posted - 2004.03.23 14:17:00 -
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Forgive my rough use of metaphor but FE's war with JF was like putting to sea in a boat full of holes. We sent you back to port with water in your bilges, a few rats have deserted you and someone left the wheelhouse door open with the keys in the ignition. Invitation for anyone to come along and take the good ship Forsaken Empire for a spin around the bay.
So there you are, tied up alongside the dock. Thinking about patching the holes or selling the boat for scrap. It's up to you to assess the damage and determine whether she will put to sea with dignity anymore.
My point,
The good ship Forsaken Empire was a rickety ship to start with. She put to sea on rash orders, with an inept helmsman and a crew lacking coherence and direction. The course was set for bad seas and the ship floundered before she could complete her badly conceived mission.
Blame the state of your ship and her crew before you blame the bad seas.
La Maison de tous Les Plaisirs
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Athule Snanm
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Posted - 2004.03.23 14:42:00 -
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I was about to post something very much on the lines Silverado19, but you beat me to it.
Militarily the war provided a bit of amusement for JF but posed zero threat (admitedly we were worried for a day or so and took appropriate preventative steps, but it very rapidly became clear that FE weren't about to come after us). JF in return posed zero strategic threat to FE, and possibly provided a bit of amusement for one or two FE members. We also knew that we were unlikely to damage a corp that had been strip mining 0.0 for the last few months, quite possibly with the assistance of 'hidden belts', in any real way in the short term. We were however more than willing to head for your systems to test the water a little in disposable ships ready for a longer term war alongside our allies. This plan obviously has been cut short to an extent, but FE remains a prime enemy of JF and we will continue to plan and plot for their long-term demise - and where possible provide concrete assistance as well.
So much for the strictly military side - mostly a non-event with one or two minor interesting episodes. The war was extremely interesting for us in a number of other ways however.
First of all we have the bizarre action of FE wardecing us. This came pretty much out of the blue, and was very good news to us. A corp with as many enemies as FE wardecing what is effectively a small but vocal corp that isn't just some mining corp that will roll over and die could only be highly embarrassing for FE. At best you could flake off a bit of paint from a few ships and at worst you could suffer a small number of humiliating (but most likely insignificant) defeats.
Next up it quickly became clear that a number of your pilots wanted to come over and snuff us out 'very, very soon' - or more accurately said they would. In actual fact these pilots sat in Obe and systems one or two jumps away for the entirity of the war. I'm thinking in particular of the laughably ineffectual Christopher Xan here. This is quite silly really as it was FE that wardeced us, not the other way around. A handful of FE pilots the claiming that they couldn't find us when in fact we came to their system and they didn't leave to come after us, despite them being the aggressors, just makes FE look full of hot air. If anything JF are a very easy to corp to find - every post on the forum paints a rather large bullseye on your butt - something one or two of you would have found out first hand if the war had gone on for longer.
Finally, we have the seemingly schizophrenic nature of FE. You have some sensible pilots and then you have a bunch of people that can't say more than half a sentence in local before resorting to smack-talk. You have major decisions made without the knowledge of the leaders - made worse by the fact that those decisions weren't welcome by the leadership and that they were also enacted. I could go on for quite some time about this, but the violent split off of Huff says it all really so going into further detail just isn't necessary. There are still people I like in FE, but it seems highly likely that further splits will eventually occur. FE tries to be all things to all people, but there are certain elements within that are incompatible with that. The old-style TTi eventually built up so many enemies without maintaining their own prestige that they fell, FE seems to be heading in the same direction. Rather like TTi, FE seems to have their heads in the sand about it - I wonder if they'll notice before it's too late? FE have the advantage of a solid PvP core that TTi didn't really have, but will it be enough when half or more of the established corps and alliances in EVE are gunning for them openly or in secret? Only time will tell, one thing's for sure - it won't be quick.
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