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DroneBay Diva The Fated Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.01.12 16:03:00 - [1] 15:54:23 Notify Your attempt to target Capsule failed. 15:54:28 Notify Your attempt to target Capsule failed. 15:54:28 Notify Your attempt to target Capsule failed. 15:54:31 Notify Your attempt to target Capsule failed. 15:54:35 Notify Your attempt to target Capsule failed. 15:54:39 Notify Your attempt to target Capsule failed. 15:54:43 Notify Your attempt to target Capsule failed. 15:54:46 Notify Your attempt to target Capsule failed. 15:54:50 Notify Your attempt to target Capsule failed. 15:54:53 Notify Your attempt to target Capsule failed. 15:54:56 Notify Your attempt to target Capsule failed. 15:54:59 Notify Your attempt to target Capsule failed. 15:55:02 Notify Your attempt to target Capsule failed. 15:55:05 Notify Your attempt to target Capsule failed. 15:55:09 Notify Your attempt to target Capsule failed. 15:55:09 Notify Your attempt to target Capsule failed. 15:55:09 Notify Your attempt to target Capsule failed. 15:55:12 Notify Your attempt to target Capsule failed. 15:55:18 Notify Your attempt to target Capsule failed. etc etc 15:59:52 Notify You have started trying to warp scramble Cosner [H8TE]<KOS>(Capsule). 4 minutes to lock a pod???? Good friggin thing the guy was afk. _____________________________________________________________________________ Proud to be a Nano-f*g
Tamia Clant New Dawn Corp New Eden Research	Posted - 2008.01.12 16:05:00 - [2] They do have their bug hunters, but they are just humans, they can't find every single bug before it hits Tranquility. Why don't you help them out by filing a bug report on the issue? Looking for queue-free research slots? Click here!
DroneBay Diva The Fated Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.01.12 16:07:00 - [3] TBH if i performed like this at my job I'd be fired by now. _____________________________________________________________________________ Proud to be a Nano-f*g
Tamia Clant New Dawn Corp New Eden Research	Posted - 2008.01.12 16:13:00 - [4] Originally by: DroneBay Diva TBH if i performed like this at my job I'd be fired by now. I'm really sad to hear that your job requires you to be machine-like perfect. Looking for queue-free research slots? Click here!
Haks'he Lirky Dominion Imperium	Posted - 2008.01.12 16:16:00 - [5] Originally by: DroneBay Diva TBH if i performed like this at my job I'd be fired by now. There does not exist a bug free software out there in the big world.
Neon Genesis The Landed Gentry	Posted - 2008.01.12 16:22:00 - [6] Originally by: DroneBay Diva TBH if i performed like this at my job I'd be fired by now. I completely fail to see how this bug occuring once constitutes poor performance and the loss of someone's job _
Adonis 4174	Posted - 2008.01.12 16:31:00 - [7] Originally by: DroneBay Diva TBH if i performed like this at my job I'd be fired by now. You have my sympathies. I've worked for that kind of company myself, they all had staff turnover above 75% per annum. ---- Anything less is wasted effort
Jenny Spitfire Caldari SIVAKASI	Posted - 2008.01.12 16:31:00 - [8] Actually CCP should publish quarterly bug report status to keep its player base happy so you don't get the CCP does not care thread like this. This community love graphs so why not publish quarterly bug status with number of bugs against time. Put in three lines - unconfirmed bugs, confirmed bugs and fixed bugs. The community can then see how hard CCP is working and how much they love us. Nobody has ever asked for this before? --------- Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria! Recruitment -KB-
Cadela Fria Amarr Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2008.01.12 16:32:00 - [9] Originally by: DroneBay Diva TBH if i performed like this at my job I'd be fired by now. Only someone without a job could make an ignorant remark such as yours.
Cadela Fria Amarr Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2008.01.12 16:34:00 - [10] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Actually CCP should publish quarterly bug report status to keep its player base happy so you don't get the CCP does not care thread like this. This community love graphs so why not publish quarterly bug status with number of bugs against time. Put in three lines - unconfirmed bugs, confirmed bugs and fixed bugs. The community can then see how hard CCP is working and how much they love us. Nobody has ever asked for this before? Honestly I'd rather have them spend that extra time in graph making/what you suggest, on fixing more bugs. CCP has nothing to prove to us, nor is this a race...nor should it be. So actually, CCP should just do it's job, which it already is, and just forget this thread exists.

Jenny Spitfire Caldari SIVAKASI	Posted - 2008.01.12 16:34:00 - [11] Originally by: Cadela Fria Only someone without a job could make an ignorant remark such as yours. Not necessary. I can tell you from my experience working as a part of the crew of the customer service team at the local McDonalds. If the food ordered by the customer is not fast enough, we would be warned and then fired subsequently because we fail to deliver fast food. --------- Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria! Recruitment -KB-
Jenny Spitfire Caldari SIVAKASI	Posted - 2008.01.12 16:36:00 - [12] Originally by: Cadela Fria Honestly I'd rather have them spend that extra time in graph making/what you suggest, on fixing more bugs. CCP has nothing to prove to us, nor is this a race...nor should it be. So actually, CCP should just do it's job, which it already is, and just forget this thread exists. Well, I think there are very useful quarterly economic report in this game, isn't it? So why not have a quarterly bug report too? It is not that hard and it tells the players base the progress of the game. I think it is quite useful. --------- Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria! Recruitment -KB-
Kirjava Lothian Quay Industries Zzz	Posted - 2008.01.12 16:48:00 - [13] CCP has approx 300 thousand bug hunters - hit that bug report button and you are well on your way. ~Nyron Originally by: Minerva Vulcan But poor victimized Ulf...I weep lavender scented tears for you.
annoing Amarr MisFunk Inc. Frontline.	Posted - 2008.01.12 17:01:00 - [14] Originally by: Tamia Clant They do have their bug hunters, but they are just humans, they can't find every single bug before it hits Tranquility. Why don't you help them out by filing a bug report on the issue? 1) Some of the bugs have been in this game since the game went gold ( I should know, I played beta). 2) I did used to fill in bug reports. The last 2 they denied ever happened 'after thousands of hours testing'. One was a boot.ini problem, the other was where they eve.exe was run and nothing happened. This turned out to be a screen resolution bug, which hundreds suffered from. Now I dont bother because they NEVER do anything about them. Damn, these people cant even answer petitions so what hope do bugs have? Originally by: Ian Holloway Smooth as a cashmere codpiece
Haks'he Lirky Dominion Imperium	Posted - 2008.01.12 17:07:00 - [15] Originally by: annoing 1) Some of the bugs have been in this game since the game went gold ( I should know, I played beta). Examples please, saying "I should know because..." is not enough to make your sentence correct.
DroneBay Diva The Fated Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.01.12 17:09:00 - [16] I'll be the first to admit I'm not the most patient person out there. However, in every job I've ever had, fixing a problem in a timely fashion is just as important as getting it done efficiently. This bug that I have pointed out is not a new bug, nor does it seem like a particularly difficult bug to figure out. This has been around, like many other bugs, since the trinity patch (and yes, it has been bug reported, not by me, but I know people who have reported it). To me, it seems that one month(ish) should be ample time to fix most of the bugs. I know they are only human, and they don't have the easiest job in the world, but honestly, while they are doing their job, there seems to be a certain lack of urgency on their part. This was not intended to be an anti-CCP post/rant, although I realize it came out that way. This post really was more of a heat of the moment 'I'm ***ed off' post (notice the time in the log reports compared to the time this thread was made ) I'm not going to apologize for making this post however, simply because I feel I'm bang on with there being a lack of urgency from the team at CCP. And no, you can't have my stuff. Screw off. _____________________________________________________________________________ Proud to be a Nano-fg
Haks'he Lirky Dominion Imperium	Posted - 2008.01.12 18:10:00 - [17] Originally by: DroneBay Diva To me, it seems that one month(ish) should be ample time to fix most of the bugs. I know they are only human, and they don't have the easiest job in the world, but honestly, while they are doing their job, there seems to be a certain lack of urgency on their part. And what qualifications in Quality Assurance, Programing or Project Leadership do you have that makes you qualified to make such a statement? I would like to see your timetable with a list of bugs and your estimated time in fixing them individually, and since you seem to have such a deep understanding of how easy these bugs are to fix why dont you apply for a Bug Hunter position, who knows, if you are as qualified in this field as you are suggesting then you could probably show CCP how efficient you are and then you could collect your paycheck from them as well.
Jonny JoJo Amarr The Imperial Guards Darkness Rising Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.12 19:06:00 - [18] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Edited by: Jenny Spitfire on 12/01/2008 16:36:33 Originally by: Cadela Fria Honestly I'd rather have them spend that extra time in graph making/what you suggest, on fixing more bugs. CCP has nothing to prove to us, nor is this a race...nor should it be. So actually, CCP should just do it's job, which it already is, and just forget this thread exists. Well, I think there are very useful quarterly economic reports in this game, isn't it? So why not have a quarterly bug reports too? It is not that hard and it tells the players base the progress of the game. I think it is quite useful. I think they have daily bug reports. There is a large program that you can download from their website that, when installed, you type your username and password and then pick a chacter to test eve. It is not free so you do have to pay for a subscription though. Refresh to see next Real Life CCP sig(21 total)
Ironnight Caldari x13 When Fat Kids Attack	Posted - 2008.01.12 19:08:00 - [19] I would like to see them work on bugs, the overview comes to mind. The old Lie: Dulce et decorum est Pro patria mori.
Riho Drop of Blood	Posted - 2008.01.12 20:26:00 - [20] Originally by: DroneBay Diva TBH if i performed like this at my job I'd be fired by now. aparently you are aware that there is no software that has no bugs... and probably never will be. ---------------------------------- Seems that there's a new game that seems to be very popular whit whiners these days. Its called EFT Online. dont listen those people.. as they dont have a clue

Richard Phallus	Posted - 2008.01.12 20:33:00 - [21] Originally by: Tamia Clant Originally by: DroneBay Diva TBH if i performed like this at my job I'd be fired by now. I'm really sad to hear that your job requires you to be machine-like perfect. Well there are only so many excuses for screwing up that double cheeseburger order... --
Big Al The Aftermath	Posted - 2008.01.12 20:34:00 - [22] From what I've seen on SiSi most bug hunters are more concerned with making their officer fit ships immune from all attacks when they are dying than testing any bugs.
Lazuran Gallente Time And ISK Sink Corporation	Posted - 2008.01.12 20:35:00 - [23] Originally by: Haks'he Lirky Originally by: DroneBay Diva To me, it seems that one month(ish) should be ample time to fix most of the bugs. I know they are only human, and they don't have the easiest job in the world, but honestly, while they are doing their job, there seems to be a certain lack of urgency on their part. And what qualifications in Quality Assurance, Programing or Project Leadership do you have that makes you qualified to make such a statement? I would like to see your timetable with a list of bugs and your estimated time in fixing them individually, and since you seem to have such a deep understanding of how easy these bugs are to fix why dont you apply for a Bug Hunter position, who knows, if you are as qualified in this field as you are suggesting then you could probably show CCP how efficient you are and then you could collect your paycheck from them as well. One has to be a fool to claim that one month is enough to fix all the bugs in EVE, but you have to be a bigger fool to pretend that CCP are doing fine and the players should fix their countless bugs. Disclaimer: I do not speak for the fanbois.
Taedrin Gallente Magellan Exploration and Survey Rare Faction	Posted - 2008.01.12 20:39:00 - [24] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Originally by: Cadela Fria Only someone without a job could make an ignorant remark such as yours. Not necessary. I can tell you from my experience working as a part of the crew of the customer service team at the local McDonalds. If the food ordered by the customer is not fast enough, we would be warned and then fired subsequently because we fail to deliver fast food. I thought that in order to get actually fired from McDonalds was that you had to break procedures 3 times. More than likely, if you don't get food to the customer fast enough, your managers would move you elsewhere and find something that you are better at. Or at least that's what my managers would do 0_o.
Haks'he Lirky Dominion Imperium	Posted - 2008.01.12 20:46:00 - [25] Originally by: Lazuran One has to be a fool to claim that one month is enough to fix all the bugs in EVE, but you have to be a bigger fool to pretend that CCP are doing fine and the players should fix their countless bugs. Countless bugs will always exist within any software environment, pretending anything about the position of CCP is not needed. As a small independent game developer and producer they are doing a fantastic work on the market place and their product while not perfect is doing fine. But you can call me a fool as much as you want, doesn't change the fact that whining about certain bugs and then making all encompassing statements regarding the state of the game any less stupid.
Lazuran Gallente Time And ISK Sink Corporation	Posted - 2008.01.12 22:31:00 - [26] Originally by: Haks'he Lirky Originally by: Lazuran One has to be a fool to claim that one month is enough to fix all the bugs in EVE, but you have to be a bigger fool to pretend that CCP are doing fine and the players should fix their countless bugs. Countless bugs will always exist within any software environment, Sometimes more, more often less. EVE is certainly not a shining example of bug-free software and unfortunately a good contender for one of the most bug-ridden games ever. Even the biggest fanbois would have to admit that. Quote: pretending anything about the position of CCP is not needed. As a small independent game developer Independent from what exactly? Last time I checked, CCP had some investors on board. "Independent" is usually an euphemism for "small" in the gaming industry and since CCP call themselves "one of the worldÆs largest independent game developers" (see the Transgaming press release), I don't see what you are trying to use this as an excuse for. Quote: and producer they are doing a fantastic work on the market place and their product while not perfect is doing fine. The well-being of EVE on the MMO market is not the issue here and "doing fine" is certainly not what you could honestly say about the bugginess of EVE. Quote: But you can call me a fool as much as you want, doesn't change the fact that whining about certain bugs and then making all encompassing statements regarding the state of the game any less stupid. As is coming up with excuses such as "CCP is an independent developer" and "it's doing fine on the market" when the quality of the software is discussed. There's really not much to say about the whole thing other than that it's extremely disappointing to many of us players how bug-ridden EVE is. It could also do much better than "fine" on the market if they paid more attention to QA. Disclaimer: I do not speak for the fanbois.
DrCous Infinity Enterprises Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.01.12 22:41:00 - [27] Originally by: Tamia Clant They do have their bug hunters, but they are just humans, they can't find every single bug before it hits Tranquility. Why don't you help them out by filing a bug report on the issue? I did that once, reported the drone folders that arn't sorted properly on alphabetic order in-game Their respond was within 2 days and they marked it as "by design" If you leave a bug open long enough, so long that you won't call it a bug anymore but you'll call it "By Design" then redirect the bugreporter to the "Feature request forum" the irony.. You catch my drift? X
Sphynx Stormlord Gallente Anqara Tech	Posted - 2008.01.12 23:04:00 - [28] I suspect that they have a huge bug database full of bugs waiting to be fixed. Ie blaming the QA dept is probably not fair.
wierchas noobhunter Cosmic Fusion When Fat Kids Attack	Posted - 2008.01.12 23:05:00 - [29] its not bug its a lag ....
Taedrin Gallente Magellan Exploration and Survey Rare Faction	Posted - 2008.01.12 23:06:00 - [30] Originally by: Lazuran Independent from what exactly? Last time I checked, CCP had some investors on board. "Independent" is usually an euphemism for "small" in the gaming industry and since CCP call themselves "one of the worldÆs largest independent game developers" (see the Transgaming press release), I don't see what you are trying to use this as an excuse for. Independent doesn't mean "small". It essentially means that they are not owned by another company. Example, Blizzard is not independent because they are owned by Vivendi. Blizzard receives the money they need to develop games from Vivendi. Likewise, all of their profits go to Vivendi. CCP, on the other hand, is a privately traded corporation, and is not owned by another corporation. I would presume that this also means that they fund their own projects. Quote: The well-being of EVE on the MMO market is not the issue here and "doing fine" is certainly not what you could honestly say about the bugginess of EVE. But honestly, the bugginess of EVE apparently isn't that big of a deal to most of us. Afterall, most of us don't really complain about bugs. Quote: As is coming up with excuses such as "CCP is an independent developer" and "it's doing fine on the market" when the quality of the software is discussed. There's really not much to say about the whole thing other than that it's extremely disappointing to many of us players how bug-ridden EVE is. It could also do much better than "fine" on the market if they paid more attention to QA. The point about "CCP is an independent developer" is that they don't have hundreds of millions of dollars to spend on a project (compare with WoW here. As such, they can't afford to spend as much money on QA. Their resources are much more limited. As a final note, let me just say that so long as we, the customers are willing to continue giving CCP our money, to them, their product is fine. The only time that CCP will not think that their product is fine is when they think they stand to lose money, or lose profit.

Robdon	Posted - 2008.01.12 23:10:00 - [31] I find it a waste of time reporting bugs. I reported many before trinity, and none were fixed before release. There are bugs that have been around for months and months, (like the POS shield DT bug) that they just dont fix. Its pathetic.
Lazuran Gallente Time And ISK Sink Corporation	Posted - 2008.01.12 23:24:00 - [32] Originally by: Taedrin The point about "CCP is an independent developer" is that they don't have hundreds of millions of dollars to spend on a project (compare with WoW here. As such, they can't afford to spend as much money on QA. Their resources are much more limited. You don't need hundreds of millions of dollars to fix bugs. The 7-8 millions they are putting into advertising in the latest campaign could be put to better use... The question is, do they love their product or do they love their subscription numbers (with many new subscribers not staying long, so the effect of the ad campaign not being worthwhile in the long run unless they can improve the game and customer satisfaction)? Quote: As a final note, let me just say that so long as we, the customers are willing to continue giving CCP our money, to them, their product is fine. Oh really, does that include the boot.ini fiasco? Did they only apologize because we stopped giving them money, or do they sometimes actually see how many bugs there are (see "known issues" page) and perhaps only refuse to invest into QA even though they know that the state of the game isn't "fine"? Quote: The only time that CCP will not think that their product is fine is when they think they stand to lose money, or lose profit. From a business perspective, with the huge scalability problems and newbie-affecting issues they have, it would be ignorant to say that they aren't losing profit already. Disclaimer: I do not speak for the fanbois.
Haks'he Lirky Dominion Imperium	Posted - 2008.01.12 23:28:00 - [33] Originally by: Lazuran There's really not much to say about the whole thing other than that it's extremely disappointing to many of us players how bug-ridden EVE is. It could also do much better than "fine" on the market if they paid more attention to QA. Taedrin answered many of your points, so im not going to repeat it. However, I dont think I am a fanboi, sure I like eve, sure I think what CCP has done since it started is impressive, sure I think the uniqueness of eve and it's environment warrants more patience when it comes to bugs. The point of the matter is that while eve has it's bugs it's still possible to play for a whole 10 hour session without feeling the brunt of one of them. And any one that looks over the Patch Notes will see that numerous bugs have been addressed all ready. If you look at any software project you will see more bugs than you can count, even the acclaimed market leaders of the genre have numerous bugs. But to be honest, since your so unhappy with the state of the game why are you even playing? There is a long way from fanbois to content players to discontent players.
Haks'he Lirky Dominion Imperium	Posted - 2008.01.12 23:36:00 - [34] Originally by: Lazuran From a business perspective, with the huge scalability problems and newbie-affecting issues they have, it would be ignorant to say that they aren't losing profit already. Loosing profit you never had is a mute point, CCP has been growing in profit every year since the release of eve. Talking about lost profit when a company is making more money every quarter is kinda weird. Also it seems weird that in one paragraph you bash CCP for spending 8 million for marketing and in another you bash them for potential loss of profit due to not growing. But it seems your just angry at CCP and your probably just hoping to get a blue post answering your post to stroke your ego.
Lazuran Gallente Time And ISK Sink Corporation	Posted - 2008.01.12 23:42:00 - [35] Originally by: Haks'he Lirky The point of the matter is that while eve has it's bugs it's still possible to play for a whole 10 hour session without feeling the brunt of one of them. How do you do that? For example, about every 2nd time I join a gang (since Trinity), my overview window jumps up so it ends half outside the window and I cannot move it down without switching the window to a higher resolution (and back again). Just as often it is impossible to warp to a gang member on the same grid (at > 200km), I've lost a 250m ship because of that already (petitioned, no answer yet). Then the ships that get stuck on the overview frequently in Empire, persisting even when you jump into lowsec (great fun when you still have that neutral guy stuck on your overview). Add to that the numerous bugs the frequent player has accustomed himself to and which he works around automatically. Quote: If you look at any software project you will see more bugs than you can count, even the acclaimed market leaders of the genre have numerous bugs. You are trying to downplay the effect of the bugs in EVE again. I use a lot of software both at home and at work and never have I had to do weird stuff like the above procedure all the time just to get my stuff done. The UI is so broken (and has been broken in all versions as long as I can remember) that it is just plain annoying. Do you really think so many people would complain frequently about bugs if they were all minor issues that didn't hamper the gameplay? Think again. Quote: But to be honest, since your so unhappy with the state of the game why are you even playing? There is a long way from fanbois to content players to discontent players. Because I'm a masochist. Or because of what you wrote: Quote: I think the uniqueness of eve and it's environment warrants more patience when it comes to bugs. If I didn't like the game enough, I wouldn't even bother complaining about bugs. Disclaimer: I do not speak for the fanbois.
Lazuran Gallente Time And ISK Sink Corporation	Posted - 2008.01.12 23:53:00 - [36] Originally by: Haks'he Lirky Originally by: Lazuran From a business perspective, with the huge scalability problems and newbie-affecting issues they have, it would be ignorant to say that they aren't losing profit already. Loosing profit you never had is a mute point, CCP has been growing in profit every year since the release of eve. Talking about lost profit when a company is making more money every quarter is kinda weird. Lost profit is e.g. what CCP didn't earn as a direct result of the bad press following the boot.ini fiasco. Quote: Also it seems weird that in one paragraph you bash CCP for spending 8 million for marketing and in another you bash them for potential loss of profit due to not growing. Pretty ignorant reading there. I stated that they're not growing like they could because they are plagued by bugs and bad QA. If you are trying to say that dumping 8 millions into marketing is a good compensation for lacking customer satisfaction, then I just have to shake my head in disbelief. Quote: But it seems your just angry at CCP and your probably just hoping to get a blue post answering your post to stroke your ego. Nice try. I'm not angry at all and I don't need a blue post for anything, CCP can and do post with their alts. ;-) PS. The forum bugs are annoying too, I need to press "submit & back" about 5-10 times per post, good increase from the 1-2 times half a year ago. The browser session management is broken, it seems. Disclaimer: I do not speak for the fanbois.
Taedrin Gallente Magellan Exploration and Survey Rare Faction	Posted - 2008.01.12 23:59:00 - [37] Originally by: Lazuran You don't need hundreds of millions of dollars to fix bugs. The 7-8 millions they are putting into advertising in the latest campaign could be put to better use... The question is, do they love their product or do they love their subscription numbers (with many new subscribers not staying long, so the effect of the ad campaign not being worthwhile in the long run unless they can improve the game and customer satisfaction)? You do, however, need millions of spare dollars to spend on hiring professional QA teams, purchasing a suitable variety and number of computers to test on, not to mention all of the expenses involved in creating an infrastructure to provide the needed communication between the QA team and the developers. Also consider that if you have too much communication between the QA team and developers, you are then wasting developers time which leads to an oppourtunity cost. Quote: Oh really, does that include the boot.ini fiasco? Did they only apologize because we stopped giving them money, or do they sometimes actually see how many bugs there are (see "known issues" page) and perhaps only refuse to invest into QA even though they know that the state of the game isn't "fine"? They apologized because they thought that they would lose money if they did not fix the problem as soon as possible. Hence my saying: "The only time that CCP will not think that their product is fine is when they think they stand to lose money, or lose profit." Quote: From a business perspective, with the huge scalability problems and newbie-affecting issues they have, it would be ignorant to say that they aren't losing profit already. I am sorry, but I probably used the wrong words here. What I mean by losing profit is that they lose subscriptions, but still maintain profitability. IE, if they had 10 million dollars profit last year, and then had 9 million dollars profit this year. I do not think they are losing profit, because I believe their subscription numbers are continuing to grow at a slow, but steady, pace.
Haks'he Lirky Dominion Imperium	Posted - 2008.01.13 00:04:00 - [38] Originally by: Lazuran You are trying to downplay the effect of the bugs in EVE again. I use a lot of software both at home and at work and never have I had to do weird stuff like the above procedure all the time just to get my stuff done. The UI is so broken (and has been broken in all versions as long as I can remember) that it is just plain annoying. Do you really think so many people would complain frequently about bugs if they were all minor issues that didn't hamper the gameplay? Think again. I use windows everyday, I use outlook and exchange as well and I experience more bugs and annoyances during my workday than during my eve experience. And I dont mean to downplay anything, my point is simply that bugs exist and they will be annoying and they will take time to address. The interface is indeed not bug free and I believe it has been mentioned by devs that it's basic design is flawed and that there are plans to rectify that situation in the future. btw, I must admit that the bugs that you mentioned do happen to me but not frequently enough to annoy me.
Lazuran Gallente Time And ISK Sink Corporation	Posted - 2008.01.13 00:11:00 - [39] Originally by: Haks'he Lirky I use windows everyday, I use outlook and exchange as well and I experience more bugs and annoyances during my workday than during my eve experience. And I dont mean to downplay anything, my point is simply that bugs exist and they will be annoying and they will take time to address. I'm with you there - I do not use Exchange but I have heard that it's not good (which is one of the reasons why we don't use it at work). On the other hand, I didn't have to reboot my PC since before the boot.ini "upgrade" and the only thing that made me reboot today was: jumping into Oursulaert. My graphics card driver went crazy (it seems), the graphics in EVE were all messed up and the whole system froze for 20-30 seconds at a time with short breaks in between even after restarting EVE until I rebooted. No graphics card overclocking, never had such a problem before. Quote: The interface is indeed not bug free and I believe it has been mentioned by devs that it's basic design is flawed and that there are plans to rectify that situation in the future. That's good news, esp. to me (I think the UI is extremely important, but I acknowledge that it's a matter of taste as well). Quote: btw, I must admit that the bugs that you mentioned do happen to me but not frequently enough to annoy me. x up more often. ;-) Disclaimer: I do not speak for the fanbois.
fuze	Posted - 2008.01.13 00:53:00 - [40] The boot.ini incident was explained and it wasn't about the typo that was made. But that release wasn't tested properly. Beside that the whole trinity was rushed because they had to release it before X-mas because the already planned their advertising campaign. You hardly can blaim QA for things like that. You can blaim the people that give you feedback on your reporting bugs where is about half of them answered by as incompetent people as the (junior) GM with their cut and past answers and not really trying to understand what you tell them in the first place. That is clearly because they have to fulfill some kind of quota every month. They don't care about quality but care about getting their monthly quota.

MysticNZ Solstice Systems Development Concourse The Reckoning.	Posted - 2008.01.13 00:54:00 - [41] That's lag, not a bug.
Ernesto Hoost	Posted - 2008.01.13 00:59:00 - [42] Originally by: Tamia Clant Why don't you help them out by filing a bug report on the issue? When CCP pays me, I'll start doing their work for them I don't pay to play a BEta version of a game
Haks'he Lirky Dominion Imperium	Posted - 2008.01.13 01:19:00 - [43] Originally by: Lazuran Quote: btw, I must admit that the bugs that you mentioned do happen to me but not frequently enough to annoy me. x up more often. ;-) hehe touchT, haven't been doing much gang work sine trinity.


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