Originally by: Matrixcvd

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Originally by: Awox

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Now that the speed rigs came in and every race has a skirmish ship and everyone and their mother is roaming in nanoishtars, nanocurse with very little skill or tactics required at next to no risk.

Surely you can see the detrimental effect this has had? You're an intelligent, surely you can see how polycarbs has devalued Minmatar as the skirmish race.

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This is actually one of the amazing things about SPEED, is that a variety of ships can do this to some degree. Vaga stands alone as fastest HAC and you have a whole class of ships which now are not nearly as fast, have to sacrifice any repping tank, and can be destroyed quickly. Your argument against speed is the exact reason why its not overpowered, certainly not FOTM, and a vital important but not overpowered portion of the game. You clearly have no idea what you are talking about.

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Originally by: Semkhet

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Originally by: L70Rogue

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Ships have never been as fast as they are now except probably when you could use 2 mwds, I bet people out there are already setting up speed fitted battleships and battlecruisers but we'll have to see when the complaints come in. Remove polycarbons, snakes, and nerf MWDs just a bit.

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If there's a kind of people I can't stand, are those who fart higher than their butt, use a septic tank as brain and constantly brag utter crap.

TO ALL: A free Golem to the first one who can tell me the main of this tard (with proof ofc).

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Originally by: Law Enforcer

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Originally by: Ethan Tomlinson

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I can't believe so many people want to nerf speed just for sake of nerfing it. Where are these people coming from? I don't think EVE community was like this 2 years ago.

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seriously...

the world of warcraft expatriots would have this game flipped upside down and catering to mainly mission running if they had been here first. as it turned out though the first eve players were sick of that kind of game play and wanted something more open ended. They played a key role in helping ccp to swing eve into a niche in the gaming market favoring pvp over ease of operation.

I have been flying in 0.0 for years now and I have never felt any problems were present with nanoships. they come and go, maybe gank 1 npc'er whos not paying attention or something and then get chased off. If you are constantly having problems with these ships. band together with your corp mates and do something about it rather than sitting off in a belt somewhere watching teletubbies while you get ganked. Dont call for changes that will in the end do nothing but bring forth another FOTM and make ships that people have spent a year+ training for completely useless.

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speed needs to be nerfed because it breaks the "rock paper scissor" design ccp uses. speed allows you to engage whomever you like and anything short of a huggin or another vagabond isn't going to even be able to fight back because of turret and missle explosion velocity.

if they introduced more counters for nano based ships like webs OTHER then officer webs that reached out to 30km I'd call it balanced because then there would be a counter.

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Originally by: Estephania

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Eve PvP slowly but surely is going down the drain. We are now talking about faction mods as some kind of mandatory fitting to stop the current nano-craze. Todays PvP is about ppl who accumulated abnormal amounts of ISK and everyone else might even not bother undocking. Well, there's an option for evryone else - blobbing. That is what this game came to - blobs-online and superpimped one-billion-wonderships. CCP seriously needs to sit down and think hard about how to make this game fun again for those, without 50 bill in the wallet.

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Originally by: Lord Frost

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haha... you must be one of the nano weenies. No one is nerfing speed... but we're looking for a clear change to BIG ships going faster than incterceptors. Roles are flawed. Take time to read a thread, and not be so selfish. You're pathetic.

Heck, I didn't know this thread would be here this long. Goes to show this IS an issue.

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Originally by: Kyrial Tidolfas

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Originally by: Sky Grunthor

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This whole argument about "normal" set up being owned by a vaga or other nanoHac is like a platoon of privates complaining about being killed by a single navy seal. you don't nerf the seal to fix the problem. you train the privates.

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there is no way a navy seal can kill a platoon of infantries unless of course the S.E.A.L is from sparta with nanosuit and particle weaponry and the platoon is armed with pitchforks and butterknives.

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