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almightybig
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Posted - 2004.03.22 07:01:00 -
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Its roughly a 6month window between Castor and Shiva. So why are we almost 4months into Tech2 and still not 1/3 of it has been introduced into the game yet? This leads me to think that Shiva is no where close to being done. And I know that Shiva isn't tech2, b4 some of you player haters out there think I'm referencing between the two, I'm not. I know Shiva isn't Tech3. But how dumb would it be to release the rest of the tech2 stuff, lets say April 2, and then patch Shiva one(1) month later. That would be utter chaos. It would be way to many new things at once. It would be a case of the marketing(whom ever plans release dates) dept. getting fired all the same day too. They plan these major patches this far in between so that the game doesn't get stagnant LIKE IT HAS.
Bottom Line, we were promised tech2 and GOT TECH 1.5
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EvilDoomer
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Posted - 2004.03.22 16:29:00 -
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Edited by: EvilDoomer on 22/03/2004 16:29:58
My question? is WHY!!!!
hold back tech II.
Or was that bull just to keep players.
Come on, dont worry about balance put the stuff in the stations and let the players have fun. 
CAN YOU SAY "getting boring"
Not to much to ask!!!!! After all you put out tech II.
So, show me the beef!!!!!!
And not the shaft.
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EvilDoomer
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Avon
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Posted - 2004.03.22 16:33:00 -
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Idiots and keyboards are a dangerous combination, but seemingly more and more common everyday. 
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Deloup Drakar
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Posted - 2004.03.22 16:41:00 -
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Its roughly a 6month window between Castor and Shiva. So why are we almost 4months into Tech2 and still not 1/3 of it has been introduced into the game yet? This leads me to think that Shiva is no where close to being done. And I know that Shiva isn't tech2, b4 some of you player haters out there think I'm referencing between the two, I'm not. I know Shiva isn't Tech3. But how dumb would it be to release the rest of the tech2 stuff, lets say April 2, and then patch Shiva one(1) month later. That would be utter chaos. It would be way to many new things at once. It would be a case of the marketing(whom ever plans release dates) dept. getting fired all the same day too. They plan these major patches this far in between so that the game doesn't get stagnant LIKE IT HAS.
Bottom Line, we were promised tech2 and GOT TECH 1.5
Easiest answer I can give, they are keeping the carrot just out of our reach. If they keep us interested by giving us a treat every so often, they are keeping thier players. Why give up everything you got right away, then 4 months later have nothing left...space it out and make the players wait.
As for your statement about Shive being 6 months away from Castor...this isn't a contract that it's DUE on that date...its an approximate they said and if things go nuts between then and now...guess what, tuff. It'll come out when it is damn ready to.
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Nyphur
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Posted - 2004.03.22 18:09:00 -
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CPP scientists are working round the clock to make the rest of what you call "Tech II" a possiblity. Give them some time and caffeine and they'll eventually get their reserch done.
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RagnarH
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Posted - 2004.03.22 18:17:00 -
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stop spamming the forums and enjoy the game !!! 
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Jarjar
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Posted - 2004.03.22 18:54:00 -
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I'm almost sure there won't be any Tech 3 modules (such as Small Shield Booster III), so T2 can be released for quite some time in the future...
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NeoMorph
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Posted - 2004.03.22 19:26:00 -
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As far as I know, Shiva is NOT Tech III.... It's Player Owned Structures...
Hence the rollout of Tech II will continue through Shiva deployment.
As someone already said, just enjoy the game. 
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2004.03.22 19:38:00 -
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Stay on ritalin!
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Mrissa Easeah
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Posted - 2004.03.22 19:50:00 -
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I think a lot of it (The tech II slowness thing) is balance issues still existing with some of the tech I stuff, namely weapons.
Most of what's missing, well, the blaring holes in Tech II projects so far is weaponry, and the rest of the elite frigates. Intercepters were the easiest to be released as there's still issues with missiles (bombers), and probably cloaking/tracking (black ops), weapon balancing (assault frigates).
There's still issues with drones (locking and bullseyeing at distances beyond what they're supposed to, damage, roles versus frigates and roles versus battleships, etc.), that prevent them releasing a huge swath of tech II drone blueprints.
And I hope they're rethinking their DCM frigates ideas as cost and skill training wouldn't seem to warrant the investment in them for a frigate with the ability to mount 2 DCM lasers, and a teeny cargo bays. I don't see people blowing millions to ninja-mine in these vulnerable little ships as they stand.
The elite cruisers have just been started now that their roles have been nailed down, it appears, so I hope this means they're getting close to the final issues holding up weapons research.
I'm as anxious as everyone else for the rest of the Tech II blueprints, (4 R&D agents working overtime, 1 unsellable kinetic shield amp blueprint so far to show for it), but I'd rather they take a bit of time getting the foundations of Tech II, that is to say, Tech I, balanced, before just burping them into the player's hands.
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Trevedian
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Posted - 2004.03.22 20:07:00 -
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almightybig has raised very good questions and all you CCP lapdogs can just relax... The glacial release of Tech 2 and the tediousness of having nothing to strive for is boring alot of players right out of EVE. Whining about balance issues and trying to justify this game's lack of progress is no remedy. CCP get busy and start adding some new content so veteran players have something to reach for!!!
Sex0r > you're bounty turns me on.. you seem like the kind of amarrian to dominate me
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Sheriff Justice
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Posted - 2004.03.22 21:19:00 -
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The glacial release of Tech 2 and the tediousness of having nothing to strive for is boring alot of players right out of EVE. Whining about balance issues and trying to justify this game''s lack of progress is no remedy. CCP get busy and start adding some new content so veteran players have something to reach for!!!
Well said! I personally can name 5 friends, vets, that have left since the last patch alone.
The problem I think is that EVE supplies just enough action to attract the FPS(While I realize this is in no way shape or form a FPS it does have a certain combat/graphics package that appeals to the FPS crowd.) people and just enough story to keep the RPG people. Only the hardcore RPG players stick around while the rest, the majority find that after a few months there is just nothing left to do thats exciting. Im the perfect example, 3 months in, 2 BS''s, my own corp, pvp,,,, its all been done to death and I actually findmyself sitting at the log inscreen saying, "what am i actually gonna do when I log on". It feels like more of a level grind now than ever.
The concept is excellent, the content is average. As always though im sure theres a valid reason for the flip side,,,,,,,,
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Murple
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Posted - 2004.03.22 21:27:00 -
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almightybig has raised very good questions and all you CCP lapdogs can just relax... The glacial release of Tech 2 and the tediousness of having nothing to strive for is boring alot of players right out of EVE. Whining about balance issues and trying to justify this game's lack of progress is no remedy. CCP get busy and start adding some new content so veteran players have something to reach for!!!
Amen!
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NeoMorph
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Posted - 2004.03.22 22:12:00 -
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If all the Tech II stuff was dumped on the players in one huge lump you would STILL complain. I honestly think that doling the tech out at this speed is just about right. After all how often you see new Athlons roll out ir RL? How often do you see new car models?
The "I want it all now so I can be bored tomorrow" people need shooting. That is the best way of ruining a MMOG imho.
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csebal
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Posted - 2004.03.22 22:54:00 -
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Idiots and keyboards are a dangerous combination, but seemingly more and more common everyday.
I see you have a mirror in front of you.
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Masi
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Posted - 2004.03.22 23:03:00 -
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All thats said on this forum is more ore, better ore in n00b systems or increase the ore rate. Oh, forgot about the "Can we have Tech 99 now please?" Why not just end the game and say "Congratz on completeing Eve Online"
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Isiana
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Posted - 2004.03.22 23:07:00 -
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Edited by: Isiana on 22/03/2004 23:08:29
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Shaelin Corpius
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Posted - 2004.03.23 00:21:00 -
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Lol tech level 1 gear is finally just starting to wrap up, and your asking for all the tech 2 gear.
Most ppl can't even use most of the tech 2 gear anyway. It would almost totally only benefit us ancient vets.
ya it would be cool to have all that stuff. But that is pure trouble.
Imagine all the 11mil Skill pointers in tech2 BS with all tech2 gear pounding on the players with tech 1 ships/gear only(cause A they don't have the skill, and B they don't have the $$ or resources).
Not fair?, doesn't matter, it would unbalance the game so bad ppl would just give up.
I still want my Flagship though 
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Trevedian
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Posted - 2004.03.23 01:26:00 -
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Edited by: Trevedian on 23/03/2004 01:30:14
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Lol tech level 1 gear is finally just starting to wrap up, and your asking for all the tech 2 gear.
Most ppl can't even use most of the tech 2 gear anyway. It would almost totally only benefit us ancient vets.
ya it would be cool to have all that stuff. But that is pure trouble.
I still want my Flagship though
1) Tech 1 stuff is just wrapping up? WTF you sayin newb, name a tech 1 mod that has been added recently... The reason we are still waiting for CCP to release all the Tech I BP's is due to their incompetence... I mean seriously TomB asking on the forums for a list of BP's that haven't been released yet, what are you devs getting paid for?
2) CCP should make the skills available instead of trying to string this out, getting subscribers to pay for nothing new!
3) It would be "pure trouble" to have better weapons, different ships or perhaps "useful" new modules (Not microsmartbomb II's)
4)And I hope u get your ship to mount a white flag if thats your goal in eve (Flagship)
I have seen your corp make posts daily that kiss the rears of the devs, perhaps u think they will lavishly give you something for all the ridiculous excuses you make up to justify this games lack of new content. I have been in a Battleship since last summer, I have mined, PVP'd, and run missions until it all got tedious.
I don't think adding new things would scare people away I think it would get them interested and show them that this game is continuously improving and adding new, exciting content. People researching for example "Laser Physics" have never gotten anything and I have been running missions for almost 4 months now, where is the fun in that?
Waiting for Godot...
Sex0r > you're bounty turns me on.. you seem like the kind of amarrian to dominate me
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Kunming
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Posted - 2004.03.23 01:30:00 -
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Stay on ritalin!
LMAO!!!
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Rinji
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Posted - 2004.03.23 02:42:00 -
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No one ever said Shive=Tech3 or that Shive= all tech 2 released. I wonder why people seem to assume this. I think the rate of release is fine- I want tech 2 ships that are well balanced.
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2004.03.23 02:45:00 -
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Someone made the decision to ring the tech II bell simultaneously with the release of Castor, miiiiistake!
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almightybig
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Posted - 2004.03.24 03:57:00 -
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I never said Shiva is Tech3.....as a matter of fact I stated the opposite. You 15 yr old kids need to stay off the forums until your ability to comprehend 1 paragraph reaches that of somone of 100 IQ pts. I did see that in one part of my statement I had a typo of tech2 instead of tech3 but the sentence was still clear enough for most morons to understand it. I know my statement may have made some assumptions of knowledge and logics of the reader. I see I can't do that anymore.
P.S. I do want to thank all of the intelligent responses. There were a few.
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Shaelin Corpius
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Posted - 2004.03.24 07:24:00 -
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Edited by: Trevedian on 23/03/2004 01:30:14
1) Tech 1 stuff is just wrapping up? WTF you sayin newb, name a tech 1 mod that has been added recently... The reason we are still waiting for CCP to release all the Tech I BP's is due to their incompetence... I mean seriously TomB asking on the forums for a list of BP's that haven't been released yet, what are you devs getting paid for?
2) CCP should make the skills available instead of trying to string this out, getting subscribers to pay for nothing new!
3) It would be "pure trouble" to have better weapons, different ships or perhaps "useful" new modules (Not microsmartbomb II's)
4)And I hope u get your ship to mount a white flag if thats your goal in eve (Flagship)
I have seen your corp make posts daily that kiss the rears of the devs, perhaps u think they will lavishly give you something for all the ridiculous excuses you make up to justify this games lack of new content. I have been in a Battleship since last summer, I have mined, PVP'd, and run missions until it all got tedious.
I don't think adding new things would scare people away I think it would get them interested and show them that this game is continuously improving and adding new, exciting content. People researching for example "Laser Physics" have never gotten anything and I have been running missions for almost 4 months now, where is the fun in that?
Waiting for Godot...
First off, Yes when was the last of the tech1 bps released moron??? oh ya just a few weeks ago. Cmon man, think.
Kiss the dev's ass? what are you talking about, I want tech2 just as bad as everyone else, and you know what sux you haven't gotten any bps yet. Wanna buy some tech2 gear?
Don't flame what you don't understand. Some of do actually have the skill to use pretty much all tech2 stuff. So I throw on all tech 2 stuff on my tech 2 ships. I go out and pwn every damn person who just don't have the stuff. Its so much stronger, especially with 11mil SP in combat. Start adding up the percentages and you start putting gods on the battlefield.
And by the way who cares? Its a damn game.
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McWatt
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Posted - 2004.03.24 08:26:00 -
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1. slow release of tech 2 stuff is (in principle) a very good thing and absolutly necessary, as tech 2 is basically tech 1 with a bonus (and higher price).
2. it would be simply (realy) great, if we knew that the stuff was in game and that we could work realy hard to get it faster.
as it is, we know that the devs will release stuff as they see fit, no matter what we do.
feels rather lame to me.
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Deadflip2
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Posted - 2004.03.24 11:00:00 -
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tech II would atm ruin some aspects ccp newly implented, insurance is one of them, if i lose a 50 mil ship with 50 mil equip even at full insurance itll cost me 50 mil, meaning ill be less eager to fight... cpp needs a meeting about this first i think
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EvilDoomer
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Posted - 2004.03.26 14:32:00 -
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As far as I know, Shiva is NOT Tech III.... It's Player Owned Structures...
Hence the rollout of Tech II will continue through Shiva deployment.
As someone already said, just enjoy the game.
Your missing the whole point!!
If CCP say's Tech II time then stand and deliver.
CCP is not delivering what they said they could and would.
Maybe thats why E&B is gone..................
Thanks
EvilDoomer
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EvilDoomer
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Posted - 2004.03.26 14:32:00 -
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As far as I know, Shiva is NOT Tech III.... It's Player Owned Structures...
Hence the rollout of Tech II will continue through Shiva deployment.
As someone already said, just enjoy the game.
Your missing the whole point!!
If CCP say's Tech II time then stand and deliver.
CCP is not delivering what they said they could and would.
Maybe thats why E&B is gone..................
Thanks
EvilDoomer
Chicago Mobsters
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EvilDoomer
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Posted - 2004.03.26 14:35:00 -
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almightybig has raised very good questions and all you CCP lapdogs can just relax... The glacial release of Tech 2 and the tediousness of having nothing to strive for is boring alot of players right out of EVE. Whining about balance issues and trying to justify this game's lack of progress is no remedy. CCP get busy and start adding some new content so veteran players have something to reach for!!!
I agree with this.
ARE YOU LISTENING CCP!!!!!!
Thanks
EvilDoomer
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Trevedian
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Posted - 2004.03.26 19:14:00 -
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First off, Yes when was the last of the tech1 bps released moron??? oh ya just a few weeks ago. Cmon man, think.
Kiss the dev's ass? what are you talking about, I want tech2 just as bad as everyone else, and you know what sux you haven't gotten any bps yet. Wanna buy some tech2 gear?
Don't flame what you don't understand. Some of do actually have the skill to use pretty much all tech2 stuff. So I throw on all tech 2 stuff on my tech 2 ships. I go out and pwn every damn person who just don't have the stuff. Its so much stronger, especially with 11mil SP in combat. Start adding up the percentages and you start putting gods on the battlefield.
And by the way who cares? Its a damn game.
What Tech 1 module has just recently appeared? Name it moron... (You started callin me names first)
Don't flame what you don't understand.... thats funny you need new skills to be able to use tech 2 weapons so you are completely wrong when you say people can use "pretty much all tech 2 stuff"!
Who cares? Alot of people... Dedicated, veteran players need new content to hold their interest. Just because your a noob that can't imagine what it would be like to accomplish something in the game, you should just STFU.
It's a game your right (finally something), but it should be fun. And to continue to be fun it needs to evolve and change.
Sex0r > you're bounty turns me on.. you seem like the kind of amarrian to dominate me
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