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Atalius Vinelgo Caldari LEGI0N SOUL CARTEL	Posted - 2008.01.13 16:21:00 - [1] Should I use the drake or raven for Lvl 4 missions?
twelvea Aesir Exitus	Posted - 2008.01.13 16:31:00 - [2] raven
Fwuffy Wabbit	Posted - 2008.01.13 17:23:00 - [3] drake
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2008.01.13 17:33:00 - [4] For really low skills, use Raven, and a lot of warp-outs. For average skill levels, use Drake, slowly but safely. For high skill levels, it's a toss-up, depends on equipment price... loads of cash, use Raven again, else keep Drake (or, if possible, go Nighthawk). End-game, either faction-pimped CNR, or T2-fit Golem. Of course "high" does not refer to absolute SP levels, but appliable SP. You might have "high Raven-related SP" but only "moderate Drake-related SP", or vice-versa. ____ Personally, I think you should pick one of the following routes: Kestrel -> Caracal -> Drake -> Nighthawk (safest option overall, cheap, not best completion speed) Kestrel -> Caracal -> Raven -> Golem (relatively fast completion speed, safe enough, balanced pricing) Kestrel -> Caracak -> Raven -> CNR (a bit on the expensive side, minimally risky, but fast completion) Personally, I'd go Nighthawk, but that's just me. 1\|2\|3\|4\|5.
Andrue Amarr	Posted - 2008.01.13 17:55:00 - [5] Edited by: Andrue on 13/01/2008 17:59:24 Drake is cheaper but is a bit easier to fit out. As you improve and invest it the Raven will overtake it in capability. Personally I prefer a Nighthawk but a CNR is still a bit faster albeit more costly. -- (Battle hardened industrialist) [Brackley, UK] My budgie can say "ploppy bottom". You have been warned.
Law Enforcer	Posted - 2008.01.13 21:46:00 - [6] Edited by: Law Enforcer on 13/01/2008 21:47:37 mid game: raven will do it the fastest. when it comes to missions isk/lp hour means everything. end game: cnr you should have stopped playing a long time ago: nightmare
Mo Steel Caldari Sanguis vix Dignatio	Posted - 2008.01.14 01:37:00 - [7] Raven. ----- Want a sig made? Eve-Mail me, signatures made for 5 million isk each.
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2008.01.14 03:46:00 - [8] Originally by: Law Enforcer you should have stopped playing a long time ago Heresy ! There's no such thing 1\|2\|3\|4\|5.
William Ortega Grave Diggers Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.14 04:15:00 - [9] real pros do it in an ibis Behold the ibis of doom -Willy
Durzel	Posted - 2008.01.14 10:10:00 - [10] I'm building a T2 fit Drake at the moment, it's turned into quite a project for me and as sad as it might sound I've actually put off getting into it until I've got all the parts fitted and have decent support skills. Can anyone tell me whether a non-faction pimped Raven (or CNR) is automatically "better" at getting the job done than a Drake? All of the Raven builds I've seen suggest ridiculously priced faction mods like Gist XL boosters (which cost about 6 times the ship itself).
Ping Li	Posted - 2008.01.14 10:28:00 - [11] Originally by: Durzel I'm building a T2 fit Drake at the moment, it's turned into quite a project for me and as sad as it might sound I've actually put off getting into it until I've got all the parts fitted and have decent support skills. Can anyone tell me whether a non-faction pimped Raven (or CNR) is automatically "better" at getting the job done than a Drake? All of the Raven builds I've seen suggest ridiculously priced faction mods like Gist XL boosters (which cost about 6 times the ship itself). A Drake can fit a very good tank, can tank any missions but has less DPS then a normal Raven. A Raven can also fit a good tank which can tank any mission, but you need to micromanage more (you will run out of cap if you keep your XL booster on). It does have a lot more DPS though. So a Drake is easier to fly but a Raven is quicker. Fitting a Gist XL booster will make a Raven's tank a lot better, but you can easily get it to autorun so you don't have to micromanage it.
Jessamine Star High Industries and Technology	Posted - 2008.01.14 18:01:00 - [12] Raven, the following is a typical mission Raven setup: HIGH 06 x Cruise Missile Launcher I 01 x SMALL TRACTOR BEAM 1 01 x SALVAGER I MEDIUM 04 x LARGE SHIELD EXTENDERS 01 x 'HYPHNOS' ECM 01 x MEDIUM SHIELD BOOSTER LOW 01 x EMERGENCY DAMAGE CONTROL 01 x ARMOR KINETIC HARDENER I 01 x ARMOR THERMIC HARDENER I 02 x WARP CORE STABILIZER I DRONES 02 x WARRIOR I DRONES 03 x HAMMERHEAD I DRONES UPGRADES 01 x ROCKET FUEL CACHE PARTINTION I 01 x BAY LOADING ACCELERATOR I 01 x HYDRAULIC BAY THRUSTER I
Professor Pardal	Posted - 2008.01.14 19:46:00 - [13] Originally by: Jessamine Raven, the following is a typical mission Raven setup: HIGH 06 x Cruise Missile Launcher I 01 x SMALL TRACTOR BEAM 1 01 x SALVAGER I MEDIUM 04 x LARGE SHIELD EXTENDERS 01 x 'HYPHNOS' ECM 01 x MEDIUM SHIELD BOOSTER LOW 01 x EMERGENCY DAMAGE CONTROL 01 x ARMOR KINETIC HARDENER I 01 x ARMOR THERMIC HARDENER I 02 x WARP CORE STABILIZER I DRONES 02 x WARRIOR I DRONES 03 x HAMMERHEAD I DRONES UPGRADES 01 x ROCKET FUEL CACHE PARTINTION I 01 x BAY LOADING ACCELERATOR I 01 x HYDRAULIC BAY THRUSTER I Are you ******** or just trolling?
Jessamine Star High Industries and Technology	Posted - 2008.01.14 19:54:00 - [14] Originally by: Professor Pardal Are you ******** or just trolling? /sigh inEvE Stats
Law Enforcer	Posted - 2008.01.14 20:16:00 - [15] Originally by: Professor Pardal Originally by: Jessamine Raven, the following is a typical mission Raven setup: HIGH 06 x Cruise Missile Launcher I 01 x SMALL TRACTOR BEAM 1 01 x SALVAGER I MEDIUM 04 x LARGE SHIELD EXTENDERS 01 x 'HYPHNOS' ECM 01 x MEDIUM SHIELD BOOSTER LOW 01 x EMERGENCY DAMAGE CONTROL 01 x ARMOR KINETIC HARDENER I 01 x ARMOR THERMIC HARDENER I 02 x WARP CORE STABILIZER I DRONES 02 x WARRIOR I DRONES 03 x HAMMERHEAD I DRONES UPGRADES 01 x ROCKET FUEL CACHE PARTINTION I 01 x BAY LOADING ACCELERATOR I 01 x HYDRAULIC BAY THRUSTER I Are you ******** or just trolling? wtf? you win the lol fit of the year award.

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