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Dilligafmofo
Sandman Plc Laika.
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Posted - 2012.02.10 09:14:00 -
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The maller looks awesome since it was updated as do the new paint jobs on the full ship list as a whole.
But what if any, do you think need a reworking of their hulls?
I vote for the Harbinger. Great ship, very versatile, but is not in keeping with the rest of the Amarian fleet.
Then I'd like to see an update to the Typhoon, it looks like a rusty brick, closley followed by the Apocalypse / Paladin. For me, the underside looks like a construction site.
What changes, if any, would you like CCP to add to the list for a facelift and which ships would you hate to see changed and why?? |

Jada Maroo
Mysterium Astrometrics
577
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Posted - 2012.02.10 09:28:00 -
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Some hulls are just low polygon and low quality. And they are mostly Minmatar and Caldari.
Low poly/low texture quality models that need total redos:
Typhoon Stabber Rupture Bellicose Scythe Wreathe Mammoth Blackbird Bantam Condor (just use the new one you made, CCP!),
Bad model, redo it!: Imicus
Weird one out:
Prophecy
This model looks like it was intentionally fattened with a vertical scale. I can't, for the life of me, figure out why. Make it less fat and it's fine. I could fix this model in 10 minutes in 3DS.
I'm not gonna count the noob ships which all need redoing because CCP has already redone them. |

Hrald
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.02.10 09:31:00 -
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I think the prophecy looks awesome. |

Ursula LeGuinn
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Posted - 2012.02.10 09:38:00 -
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The Probe (and by extension, the Cheetah).
It's such an awkward-looking pile of crap. Easy fix: Swap it with the Minmatar Shuttle model, perhaps with a bit of resizing and a couple of tweaks. "The EVE forums are intended to provide a warm, friendly atmosphere for the EVE community."-áGÇö-áEVElopedia |

Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
664
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Posted - 2012.02.10 09:48:00 -
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Ursula LeGuinn wrote:The Probe (and by extension, the Cheetah).
It's such an awkward-looking pile of crap. Easy fix: Swap it with the Minmatar Shuttle model, perhaps with a bit of resizing and a couple of tweaks.
Minmatar ships in general tend to alternate between badass (rifter, maelstrom, etc) and akward-looking heap of junk. The rifter is proof enough that a ship can look jury-rigged and rusted without looking ********. A vote for Akirei is a vote for Awesome! |

Jazzmyn
The Ghost Division
6
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Posted - 2012.02.10 10:00:00 -
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I agree Typhoon should be top priority, also condor / crow would be more fun to fly if it looked abit more symmetric. The new condor model thats out there is player made but looks absolutely awesome 
And yes prophecy is abit fat, still its one the best models in game. |

Roime
UNFRL Fleet Operations CONSORTIUM UNIVERSALIS
175
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Posted - 2012.02.10 10:09:00 -
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Gallente hulls that need urgent love:
Imicus/Helios Celestis/Arazu/Lachesis
No amount of motherly love can make the current models look good, even though the ships are great.
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Alara IonStorm
1547
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Posted - 2012.02.10 10:28:00 -
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Caracal Omen Osprey Blackbird Moa Vexor Stabber Condor Imicus
Basically all the Caldari Cruisers. I would like to see the Tier 2 Cruisers get a design style similar to the Tech 3's. |

Jada Maroo
Mysterium Astrometrics
578
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Posted - 2012.02.10 10:28:00 -
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Jazzmyn wrote: The new condor model thats out there is player made but looks absolutely awesome 
CCP finally admitted they made it. They're probably waiting to put it in until the new missile launchers have been sorted. |

Lyrka Bloodberry
Spybeaver
70
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Posted - 2012.02.10 10:32:00 -
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Ursula LeGuinn wrote:The Probe (and by extension, the Cheetah).
It's such an awkward-looking pile of crap. Easy fix: Swap it with the Minmatar Shuttle model, perhaps with a bit of resizing and a couple of tweaks.
I totally like the Cheetah...
Spybeaver |

Sasha Azala
Blood and Decay
15
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Posted - 2012.02.10 11:02:00 -
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Tempest because it's the only one that comes with it's own stand.
Lose the square foot. |

DarkAegix
Acetech Systems
908
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Posted - 2012.02.10 11:06:00 -
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I'd like it if the Dominix looked like an actual whale. |

Ajita al Tchar
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
39
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Posted - 2012.02.10 11:25:00 -
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Imicus / Helios
Worst ship I've ever had the (dis)pleasure to sit in. It's just so ********, awkward, ill-conceived, ridiculous, fugly, cringe-worthy, embarrassing, but thankfully at least the Helios can cloak to hide its face... the face even a mother couldn't love. It looks like a robot riding a wheelchair leaning of a crutch, with buck teeth, head like a sock monkey and it seems to be screaming "WHYYYYYY??????"
Moa + its variants.
Space chicken that looks like it's muttering inanities to itself as it scuttles about the universe. I don't find it quite as disappointing and atrocious as the Imicus / Helios, but it's pretty close, and actually more ridiculous-looking, in that silly awkward way that doesn't make any sense. I hate the fact that the Gila is a Moa hull because it's so effing ugly, yet such a great ship when it comes to function.
Lesser offenders of the visual senses:
Celestis + variants. Guh, wtf are those supposed to be? Well, at least one of them can live mostly cloaked... Probe + Cheetah. Almost endearingly clumsy-looking. Bantam. Wat. Bellicose. It's either angry or lolangry, but either way awkward. Osprey + Basilisk. Meh. Burst. Who ******* cares about this ship anyway, it's as boring visually as it is functionally. Caracal. Why is it a tripod? Avatar. I know it's too late to change the iconic Angry Mushroom that Is Angry, but seriously. It's a mushroom. Is that supposed to be a hint regarding the way some ship designs were conceived, happy shroom times at the devs'? |

Cailais
Rekall Incorporated
207
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Posted - 2012.02.10 11:31:00 -
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Vagabond.
Love the ship stats, hate the model.
C.
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Ajita al Tchar
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
39
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Posted - 2012.02.10 11:31:00 -
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Also, I like how most of the ships mentioned in this thread are absent from the current list of ships in the ship viewer on the new website. Don't want the impressionable potential customers to see those, right? Instead wait until they train up to use these ships, board them for the first time and proceed to dip their eyeballs in lye.
ninjaedit: yes, other good ships are absent as well, WTF is up with that anyway. But there are far more good ships present than bad ships, and bad ships seem to be mostly in the frigate and cruiser classes. |

Sasha Azala
Blood and Decay
15
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Posted - 2012.02.10 11:35:00 -
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Ajita al Tchar wrote:Avatar. I know it's too late to change the iconic Angry Mushroom that Is Angry, but seriously. It's a mushroom. Is that supposed to be a hint regarding the way some ship designs were conceived, happy shroom times at the devs'?
It might be a mushroom but it's the best looking titan.
The Minmatar one being the worst but only just. |

Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
1834
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Posted - 2012.02.10 11:50:00 -
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Sasha Azala wrote:Ajita al Tchar wrote:Avatar. I know it's too late to change the iconic Angry Mushroom that Is Angry, but seriously. It's a mushroom. Is that supposed to be a hint regarding the way some ship designs were conceived, happy shroom times at the devs'? It might be a mushroom but it's the best looking titan. The Minmatar one being the worst but only just.
I always thought that when constructing it they changed the guy in chanrge of building it from time to time and the new guy always starter to build the hull according to their own design. The end result is a ship, that looks like it's ducttaped together from the pieces of several different ships and juryrigged to make it spaceworthy. |

El Puerco
Abh Academy Abh Alliance
7
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Posted - 2012.02.10 11:53:00 -
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The Hulks textures could be a bit more aligned. Errare humanum est. |

Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
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Posted - 2012.02.10 12:21:00 -
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Ajita al Tchar wrote:Imicus / Helios
Worst ship I've ever had the (dis)pleasure to sit in. It's just so ********, awkward, ill-conceived, ridiculous, fugly, cringe-worthy, embarrassing, but thankfully at least the Helios can cloak to hide its face... the face even a mother couldn't love. It looks like a robot riding a wheelchair leaning of a crutch, with buck teeth, head like a sock monkey and it seems to be screaming "WHYYYYYY??????"
OMG This!
I use it a lot, but really HATE the look.
Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. |

Real Poison
Aura of Darkness Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2012.02.10 12:21:00 -
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Indeed a lot of Minmatar models are in desperate need of an update.
Tempest, while i love the ship i always hated the looks, i remember back in 2003 when there was no preview and Battleships were just introduced from that small icon i could not figure out how it'd look and while saving up iskies to buy one i thought there is some sort of space construction array wrapped around the ship image.
Damn was i shocked when i eventually learned that the ship actually was that construction array with a duct-taped warp drive on it.
Also the Ragnarok, while i have no intention getting my char into a supercapital character coffin. That ship model is a disgrace.
Remember the final episode of BSG when the Galactica folded on exiting FTL ? Even the folded Galactica looked cooler.
And please stop glueing tons of solar panels around minmatar ships for no reason and give them properly secured cockpits that are integrated into the hull instead of putting the cockpits on weird flimsy poles that stick out from random positions.
kthxbai |

Ettu Brute II
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
23
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Posted - 2012.02.10 12:36:00 -
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All the Minmatar ships except the Shuttle, Probe/Cheetah (but lose those daft sails), Typhoon (their only decent-looking BS), BCs and industrials. Chuck all those stupid-looking sails in the recycle bin.
Caldari are fine.
Amarr are ok except that the Harbinger looks like it should have wheels.
Imicus/Helios, Maulus/Keres.
Turn the Mymidon onto its side, like the Catalyst.
BUT - above all else, ditch that hideous Tristan. Looks like a giant mech warrior. I can't imagine what illicit substances the designers were on when they came up with that. |

Gellenter Pl
Unseen Nomads Exiled Ones
11
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Posted - 2012.02.10 12:47:00 -
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MOA <= totally have to be improved Noob ships Harbringer Tempest Basilisk
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Ciar Meara
Virtus Vindice
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Posted - 2012.02.10 13:39:00 -
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Destination SkillQueue wrote: I always thought that when constructing it they changed the guy in charge of building it from time to time and the new guy always starter to build the hull according to their own design. The end result is a ship, that looks like it's duct taped together from the pieces of several different ships and juryrigged to make it spaceworthy.
Well yeah, they have to make it look minmatar somehow!
I like most of the Amarr ships, prophecy is very nice. The "new" symmetrical condor I don't like at all, it loses all its flair, normally I do not comment on other races ships, but the condor is quite dear to my hart since I flew in during beta and even produced some of them. So no symmetrical new Condor, booh!.
Edit: I guess the crucifer is the one ship that I would allow a rework off, I did enjoy to fly it in the olden days but it doesn't really look the part and perhaps the harbringer.
Personally I'd ver much prefer it if modules fitted on a ship would be distinguishable and thus changing its shape somewhat like pods and aerials on fighter/bomber planes in present day. - [img]http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/janus/ceosig.jpg[/img] [yellow]English only please. Zymurgist[/yellow] |

David Grogan
The Motley Crew Reborn
300
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Posted - 2012.02.10 15:25:00 -
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Dilligafmofo wrote:The maller looks awesome since it was updated as do the new paint jobs on the full ship list as a whole.
But what if any, do you think need a reworking of their hulls?
I vote for the Harbinger. Great ship, very versatile, but is not in keeping with the rest of the Amarian fleet.
Then I'd like to see an update to the Typhoon, it looks like a rusty brick, closley followed by the Apocalypse / Paladin. For me, the underside looks like a construction site.
What changes, if any, would you like CCP to add to the list for a facelift and which ships would you hate to see changed and why??
my list of ships needing complete make overs.
1. Typhoon/panther - this needs a totally new model + textures 2. all 4 noobships need a new model + textures it might entice more noobs to stay with the game. 3. caracal/cerberus - its just looks plain silly and needs a new model + textures 4. all 5 versions of the iteron - they just look like dildos - completely new model + textures 5. catalyst/eris - it looks like an old wwII bomber missing a wing and its tail - new model + textures 6. imicus/helios - what the hell was that modeller thinking? - new model + textures 7. moa/eagle/onyx - needs a new model + textures 8. Aeon - it look half finished - fix the model 9. osprey/bassilisk - looks like a turkey - new model + textures needed 10. bantam - another ugly frig Everytime you buy something that says "made in china" you are helping the rising unemployment in your own country unless you are from china, Buy locally produced goods and help create more jobs. |

Roime
UNFRL Fleet Operations CONSORTIUM UNIVERSALIS
176
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Posted - 2012.02.10 15:38:00 -
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Ettu Brute II wrote: Maulus/Keres.
Turn the Mymidon onto its side, like the Catalyst.
BUT - above all else, ditch that hideous Tristan. Looks like a giant mech warrior. I can't imagine what illicit substances the designers were on when they came up with that.
Nooooooooooooooo
your opinion is terribly wrong on all accounts!
Maulus/Keres is one of the coolest frig hulls, it looks menacing with that robotic "eye", very nice design overall.
Even suggesting touching the Holy Verticality is a crime under Federal law and you have just became K.O.S. in Gallente space
Tristan : ( you must be trolling.
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Zimmy Zeta
Battle Force Industries Tactical Invader Syndicate
810
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Posted - 2012.02.10 15:39:00 -
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Real Poison wrote: And please stop glueing tons of solar panels around minmatar ships for no reason and give them properly secured cockpits that are integrated into the hull instead of putting the cockpits on weird flimsy poles that stick out from random positions.
kthxbai
But....Minmatar ships need all the solar energy for their cap-hungry projectile weapons. ....
edit:
I love the tempest, but by turning it onto the side it would also look much more awesome -.- |

Velarra
Ghost Festival Naraka.
39
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Posted - 2012.02.10 16:09:00 -
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The New Player / Starter ships. Ibis & friends. |

Roime
UNFRL Fleet Operations CONSORTIUM UNIVERSALIS
176
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Posted - 2012.02.10 16:16:00 -
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I think it has been stated by CCP that the rookie ships will get new models next.
Like Minnie and Amarr ships get the new, improved textures like Gal and Caldari already have. |

Dessau
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Posted - 2012.02.10 16:21:00 -
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As a Gallente underwear model, I tend to be pretty shallow about what ships I'll be seen in while cruising the space lanes. Just wanted to provide full disclosure before I list a bunch of hulls I don't fly.
- Griffin
- Moa
- Imicus
- Dominix
- Burst
- Tempest
Don't fly Amarr of faction ships larger than frigates, so no comment there. Although, every ship with space camo needs a makeover, IMO. |

Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3098
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Posted - 2012.02.10 16:26:00 -
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Imicus for the love of all things holy by the amarr the imicus ever since they took her base model away and gave it to the keres I been a sad fox!
Needs more astrometics and pretty.
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Burhtun
Pacific Mining and Manufacturing Co-operative Nox Draconum
8
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Posted - 2012.02.10 17:14:00 -
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Ursula LeGuinn wrote:The Probe (and by extension, the Cheetah).
It's such an awkward-looking pile of crap.
I named my Cheetah 'Picasso Bird'.
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Wacktopia
Noir.
168
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Posted - 2012.02.10 17:42:00 -
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Typhoon. I like the concept of the look but the textures do not lend to it looking like a giant battleship.
Vagabond/Stabber. Again I like the look of the ship but the turret points and some of the textures don't work correctly.
Moa/Gila/etc. Yeah the boxy look is cool but the "turkey head" just doesn't work.
Carriers. Models need to be bigger. Look too small to be able to carry around battleships. Vote Alekseyev Karrde for CSM7. -áhttps://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=67574 Get War Decs, Sov, Low Sec that works.-á |

Conrad Makbure
Division One Security
7
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Posted - 2012.02.10 17:45:00 -
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The Imicus needs an emergency face lift and the Dominix should be next. Give the domi a tail and a breathing hole that sprays up water whenever it shoots it's rails.
But look at this thread! I say it's time for another art contest, to redo existing ships! |

Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3098
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Posted - 2012.02.10 19:07:00 -
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I already made one entry some time back.
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Nylith Empyreal
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2012.02.10 19:21:00 -
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DarkAegix wrote:I'd like it if the Dominix looked like an actual whale.
This^ |

Solhild
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
612
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Posted - 2012.02.10 19:53:00 -
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I actually love the look of the ragnarok. It's true that most Minmatar models are plain crap, even the Maelstrom is wing heavy and loses cool points.
Ugliest ship is probably one of the gallente models already mentioned, some fundamental issues there that a retexture will never fix. |

Adrian Dixon
Arbitrary Spaceship Destruction
32
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Posted - 2012.02.10 20:28:00 -
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Stabber/Vagabond sticks out in my mind by far. Most of the Minmatar ships visually look like they are from a computer game made in 1995 copy pasted into EVE. |

HELIC0N ONE
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
82
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Posted - 2012.02.10 20:32:00 -
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If your answer isn't the Blackbird, you're wrong |

Ehn Roh
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
20
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Posted - 2012.02.10 23:11:00 -
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HELIC0N ONE wrote:If your answer isn't the Blackbird, you're wrong
I'm cool with that, I just can't bring myself to fly the Asymetrical Space Turkey.
And if you tell me "which one?", then that just proves my second point.... |

Tekashi Kovacs
Golfclap Inc
0
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Posted - 2012.02.11 15:26:00 -
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Well, basically all minmatar ships with exception of t3 and rifter/slasher hulls looks like crap
Caldari, Moa, Blackbird, Caracal and few others
Gallente mostly imicus - it looks just pathetic
Amarr - Magnate looks nice, every other frigate needs full redesign badly
From pirate ships: Nightmare needs some kind of redesign/imporvements (make it horizontal?) Machariel looks cheap, could be improved
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Iris Bravemount
Aliastra Gallente Federation
50
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Posted - 2012.02.11 18:18:00 -
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Gallente
Frigates
Velator - Streamline a bit, but it's not that bad. Imicus - Total makeover needed.
Cruisers
Vexor - Looks a bit too simple. Celestis - Looks weird. With symmetry it could look ok though, while still retaining the exotic feeling overall.
Battleships
Dominix - Looks a bit too simple, just like the Vexor. Hyperion - Invert the thruster's and rear turret hardpoint's position.
Capital Ships
Obelisk - Too round, looks silly.
Industrials
The "head" of the Iteron series is too big. Iteron IV shouldn't be the shortest. Transport ships should use the Iteron IV (blockade runner) and Iteron V (DST) models.
Amarr
Battlecruisers
Harbinger - Needs to be put in line with the rest of the Amarr fleet.
Battleships
Apocalypse - Needs work on the underside. Looks to banana-ish overall, considering it's awesome name.
Capital Ships
Carriers (both) - Need completion. No plating on half the ship looks silly.
Minmatar
All : remove the solar pannels, secure the cockpits. Replace the solar panel concept with Hel-like armor plate layout.
Frigates
All but the Rifter need total makeover. They may still look jury-rigged, but they should at least look spaceworthy.
Cruisers
All but the Rupture look unfinished. Rupture - too bricky.
Battleships
Typhoon - too bricky. Tempest - too much randomly assembeled stuff.
Caldari
Frigates
Bantam and ibis look too random to look efficient, which Caldari ships should.
Cruisers
Moa and Blackbird, same as above.
Capital Ships
Phoenix - Looks too simple, bricky, whatever. Needs to be put in line with the rest of the caldari capital fleet.
Industrials
Use the Badger Mark III model on t1, have the t2 versions use MkIII and MkII models.
Others
CONCORD Battleship Looks too frail.
Improve weapon sound effects |

Ettu Brute II
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
23
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Posted - 2012.02.12 04:04:00 -
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Iris Bravemount wrote:Use the Badger Mark III model on t1, have the t2 versions use MkIII and MkII models.
Badger Mark III??? |

Real Poison
Aura of Darkness Nulli Secunda
87
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Posted - 2012.02.12 08:22:00 -
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Zimmy Zeta wrote:I love the tempest, but by turning it onto the side it would also look much more awesome
We already have that as a minature version in the game, they call that ship Reaper. But that one needs a 2nd medslot.
Reaper + MPAC + MWD + HEAT -> 4km/s+ zoooooooooooooooom  |

Cave Lord
Workers' Compensation Sukyoko-Moussa Ltd.
18
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Posted - 2012.02.12 08:41:00 -
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I'd love to see the the following ships updated: All Sleeper All Talocan All Jove (In that order)
I have to admit, I love these ships. It would also make exploration a little bit cooler ;) |

Tekashi Kovacs
Golfclap Inc
0
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Posted - 2012.02.12 14:43:00 -
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Iris Bravemount wrote: Frigates
All but the Rifter need total makeover. They may still look jury-rigged, but they should at least look spaceworthy.
Hey, what do you think is wrong with Slasher (Stiletto)? It looks to be pretty much in line with rifter, in terms of design imo. :(
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Kinis Deren
EVE University Ivy League
27
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Posted - 2012.02.12 15:38:00 -
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Iris Bravemount wrote:Gallente
.....
Minmatar
All : remove the solar pannels, secure the cockpits. Replace the solar panel concept with Hel-like armor plate layout.
......
For the love of all things rusty and for the Republic, please don't change the embodiment of awesomeness that is the Minmatar Hurricane The very small solar panels on the 'cane aren't that intrusive or aestheically displeasing. |

Maxious
Dragon Knights of EvE
3
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Posted - 2012.02.13 11:59:00 -
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I'm a big fan of the Dom. Been using it for years. Unfortunately it looks like a giant dollop of turd. The most s****st looking ship out there. Please give me something sexyp |
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