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The Mittani GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.14 23:11:00 - [61] my post is not confusing vOv
The Mittani GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.14 23:15:00 - [62] Originally by: Lee ChanKa Edited by: Lee ChanKa on 14/01/2008 23:11:10 Edited by: Lee ChanKa on 14/01/2008 23:09:05 Originally by: The Mittani tri alts make the worst threads srsly and wtf are you trying 2 say with this? i didnt post nothing herr in all mine posts for TRI i post in mine name..so if you hawe something 2 say say 2 me or back.. 'tri alts' read the op :cripes:
Clinically Gallente Cold-Fury Southern Cross Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.14 23:18:00 - [63] Originally by: Lsf XXi Goons. We don't even care about k:d ratio so we obviously don't have what it takes. QFT + terrible COAD posting makes you doubly unworthy. ________________ Welcome to EvE Online Forums, would you like to: [ ] Whine about ganking [ ] Complain about updates [ ] Post an anti-nerf petition [X] Remove your operating system
Orree Gallente Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.01.14 23:19:00 - [64] Originally by: Tinka Toy Hydra is ripe for the picking for a lot of reasons. You'll have to approach Pure/MM on the diplomatic side and get approval first though. For the right price they might turn a blind eye, and claim they're too busy in the South to bother defending Hydra. Hydra itself isn't capable of doing squat, and they're losing PvP corps left and right as it is. Absolutely incorrect. We (RAWR) do not behave that way. Two things would be significantly more likely: 1. We absolutely are "busy in the south" or busy with anything else which might be of a higher priority, given the situation. 2. Hydra would have to request our help, something they haven't felt the need to do. We are blue to them, but do not consider ourselves necessarily to be the defacto protectors of their space. Pure's relationship with Hydra may be entirely different. I don't speak for them. RAWR are not, nor do we wish to be the police of "The North." "How much easier it is to be critical than to be correct." ---Benjamin Disraeli
Malcanis 5 finger discounteers	Posted - 2008.01.14 23:19:00 - [65] Originally by: Ituralde TRI sucks we shouldn't hold sov paper tiger etc amirite? Anyhow, agreeing with the goon for once in a lifetime - I'd say an alliance that gives it's best shot regularly but gets their ass handed to them is a better alliance more deserving of the space it owns than the one who doesn't dare take risks in combat. Not to mention that such an alliance stands at least some chance of improving. CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
sidthesexist Caldari Revival.	Posted - 2008.01.14 23:22:00 - [66] Originally by: Lee ChanKa Edited by: Lee ChanKa on 14/01/2008 23:11:10 Edited by: Lee ChanKa on 14/01/2008 23:09:05 Originally by: The Mittani tri alts make the worst threads srsly and wtf are you trying 2 say with this? i didnt post nothing herr in all mine posts for TRI i post in mine name..so if you hawe something 2 say say 2 me or back.. I condone this post. Best post so far imo...
SATAN BURN EDEN	Posted - 2008.01.14 23:37:00 - [67] Here is my point of view. Most alliances in this game besides the obvious ones are not very strong, they may talk the talk but when it comes down to fighting its their neighbors and NAP list that saves the day. Say what you will about Hydra, but at least they come out and fight. They do very little smack talking and they keep coming back. From my perspective the only difference between Hydra and alot of the other big alliances in this game is leadership. Hydra just seems to be missing good commanders, and a goal. But to answer the opps question, to take Hydra's space you need to defeat Hydra, MM, Pure, Smash, Roadkill, Mostly Harmless, and a few more all at the same time believe me we tried when our resident carebear decided perhaps we should take some space.
Orree Gallente Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.01.14 23:42:00 - [68] Originally by: SATAN Here is my point of view. Most alliances in this game besides the obvious ones are not very strong, they may talk the talk but when it comes down to fighting its their neighbors and NAP list that saves the day. Say what you will about Hydra, but at least they come out and fight. They do very little smack talking and they keep coming back. From my perspective the only difference between Hydra and alot of the other big alliances in this game is leadership. Hydra just seems to be missing good commanders, and a goal. But to answer the opps question, to take Hydra's space you need to defeat Hydra, MM, Pure, Smash, Roadkill, Mostly Harmless, and a few more all at the same time believe me we tried when our resident carebear decided perhaps we should take some space. Which one is the "resident carebear." Name and shame... "How much easier it is to be critical than to be correct." ---Benjamin Disraeli
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2008.01.14 23:48:00 - [69] Killboard efficiency mean little, if they got the tenacity to come back and hold the ground despite losing ships to 1-10 different attacking entities they've clearly earned the right to be there. They just bled more for it. Who do you serve wanting Hydra gone? Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Cmd Woodlouse moon7empler Ev0ke	Posted - 2008.01.15 00:03:00 - [70] Originally by: MAXSuicide Originally by: Thargat Judging alliances and corps by their KBs is bad mkay? (no pun intended) once upon a time it was pvp that kept ur space... I know what you did there. Once upon a time pvp was mediocre fleets shooting each other. Now PVP is: - Pos Spamming - Superiour logistics - Big Fleet Battles - Pos Sieges - Market Dominance I hope you get my point there.

Splagada Minmatar Tides of Silence Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.15 01:39:00 - [71] Edited by: Splagada on 15/01/2008 01:40:21 Originally by: Orree Originally by: SATAN Here is my point of view. Most alliances in this game besides the obvious ones are not very strong, they may talk the talk but when it comes down to fighting its their neighbors and NAP list that saves the day. Say what you will about Hydra, but at least they come out and fight. They do very little smack talking and they keep coming back. From my perspective the only difference between Hydra and alot of the other big alliances in this game is leadership. Hydra just seems to be missing good commanders, and a goal. But to answer the opps question, to take Hydra's space you need to defeat Hydra, MM, Pure, Smash, Roadkill, Mostly Harmless, and a few more all at the same time believe me we tried when our resident carebear decided perhaps we should take some space. Which one is the "resident carebear." Name and shame... Well i got good negative intel there : it wasnt us :p ------ Tides of Silence
Felysta Sandorn Infinitus Odium The Church.	Posted - 2008.01.15 01:51:00 - [72] Originally by: Mohadir Elrutra Insurgency suck at defending there space True, that! Latest Video, Click Here!
Brunswick2 coracao ardente Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.15 01:55:00 - [73] Originally by: The Mittani tri alts make the worst threads srsly qft
Akel jomar Gallente Garoun Investment Bank	Posted - 2008.01.15 01:58:00 - [74] Originally by: Felysta Sandorn Originally by: Mohadir Elrutra Insurgency suck at defending there space True, that! Says the one that ran. Poptarts
Jirai Grepher Eve Defence Force Insurgency	Posted - 2008.01.15 01:59:00 - [75] Originally by: Akel jomar Originally by: Felysta Sandorn Originally by: Mohadir Elrutra Insurgency suck at defending there space True, that! Says the one that ran. that would be me by the way. _________________ The former and original Pel Mel
Will Hunter GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.15 02:00:00 - [76] Originally by: Ju Ming Edited by: Ju Ming on 14/01/2008 22:26:12 Hey there Its also important to understand that if you want a really low Kill ration you dont undock or engage. This is also one of the best ways to lose space when push comes to shove. Also KB Ratios are not as a rule correct especially when the Board you are checking tends to have mixed fleets. The reason being that if my KB shows a kill done by 10 Ships and 1 was lost but only 2 ships involved in the kill will be posting loses on my board it sort of skews the numbers. But in the end its not just about Kill Ratios its actually about who is ready to put their assets and time on the line to hold space. This means doing logistics, tearing down hostile POS and enaging both fleets and causing grief in your enemies farming areas. Also some players care more then others if they get killed and may or may not be more likely to put either cheap or shinny stuff on the line. In the Swarm its very common to have players go on suicide attack runs in any thing from Frigates to Battleships. For others like Tri, they roam all areas of EvE in their Nano Snake gangs looking for fights knowing they might get killed and podded. But there are others that when they finally find themselves under attack they fold as SOV holding entities. Some Alliances have had to face harsh realization that they mostly recruited farmers that have no intention to fight. So its not really about how many Kills you get but rather when a fight comes to your systems do you fight if its realistic so you can hold SOV. Fly Well please join eurosquad
Felysta Sandorn Infinitus Odium The Church.	Posted - 2008.01.15 02:04:00 - [77] Originally by: Jirai Grepher Originally by: Akel jomar Originally by: Felysta Sandorn Originally by: Mohadir Elrutra Insurgency suck at defending there space True, that! Says the one that ran. that would be me by the way. Maybe that's the problem! Latest Video, Click Here!
Cvuos GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.15 02:34:00 - [78] The guys in General Discussion has this nailed, why can't CAOD get it too? - Eve doesn't adapt to you, you have to adapt to it. - If you don't like what's going on, there's a bagillion other things you can do. (you don't have to play conquerable 0.0 just because you have more than 30 mill SP) - Killboards is not a feature supported by CCP and has no effect on the game.
umop 3pisdn Minmatar Fnck the blob.	Posted - 2008.01.15 02:36:00 - [79] I'm not going to name alliances (ok... maybe 1 or 2 for fun...) but i think it is a clear indication that eve isnt full as some people are saying, theres no pressure on the crap people so obviously there is room for everyone. POS's hold sov, not skill, not fleets, so the **** players can just put up some death stars and then you need 30-40 bs or a capital fleet at a bare minimum to remove them. Most of these crap alliances, you will notice, have died in the GBC or are clutching the coalition and pretending to help, they will die later though. Most of these crap alliances have a massive blue list, so if they feel threatened they just crank up the tear generator and go cry to whomever looks after them. So really, all you can do without alliance scale effort is gank the hell out of them while they are there.
Attak Trioptimum The Reckoning.	Posted - 2008.01.15 02:37:00 - [80] Well, let's start with HYDRA. They don't deserve it because they could be killed easily by SMASH/RK. But SMASH don't deserve their space because they could be killed by MM. But then MM doesn't deserve their space because TRI could kill them. TRI doesn't deserve their space either because BoB could kill them. And BoB doesn't deserve their space because Goons can kill them. Goons, of course, are total nublets and have a terrible k/d ratio so don't deserve to even be in lowsec. Beats me tbh. How do you deserve space in this game?

Felysta Sandorn Infinitus Odium The Church.	Posted - 2008.01.15 02:38:00 - [81] Originally by: Cvuos The guys in General Discussion has this nailed, why can't CAOD get it too? - Eve doesn't adapt to you, you have to adapt to it. - If you don't like what's going on, there's a bagillion other things you can do. (you don't have to play conquerable 0.0 just because you have more than 30 mill SP) - Killboards is not a feature supported by CCP and has no effect on the game. Uh... A coherent goon, with whom I agree! Something's wrong... Latest Video, Click Here!
umop 3pisdn Minmatar Fnck the blob.	Posted - 2008.01.15 03:00:00 - [82] Originally by: Lee ChanKa Edited by: Lee ChanKa on 14/01/2008 22:59:08 Edited by: Lee ChanKa on 14/01/2008 22:55:14 Originally by: Vasili Z You'll find all the actual pvpers who play just to pvp don't care about POS or sov and even if they did, there's not enough of them to control all the space in Eve. There will always be carebears in 0.0 because if it was just pvpers, there'd be no POS. yes i dont care about nothing you can do pvp in 0.0 from npc station...so this mann totaly right..and fu** pos warfere and large fleet ops..thet is all garbage..no nead skill 2 drop 100 caps and 2 shoot primari secondary and rest comands..no ofeence for cap pilots but i will NEWHER in life learn for any cap ship.. hehehe tri posting that blobbing with cap ships != skill tell that to angel, she'll tell you that it takes a lot of skill and if it wasnt for the lag all of eve would be dead
Myth Al'kar Blueprint Haus Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.15 04:59:00 - [83] I don't feel any shame in blowing due to the likes of Tri, Burn Eden, MDK, etc. Each time is a learning experience, and sometimes I get my own back. As to the carrier battle....having all those jamming ships and snipers circling my Rokh like sharks was funny. GF Tri.
Ju Ming Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.15 05:21:00 - [84] umop 3pisdn - Aka the Tokyo Rose of BoB You have no clue what is involved in either pvp or holding sov space. to be blunt its funny how players spam on characters that have nothing to do with the game. Sig locked, inappropriate link. If you would like further details please email [email protected] ~Saint
Tarantelita Ragna Rok Corp	Posted - 2008.01.15 05:55:00 - [85] I agree, Hydra must be the most noob alliance (like i have writen 1000 times befor on forums) in EVE. They are good at hiding, give them props for that
Evil Pookie BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.	Posted - 2008.01.15 10:49:00 - [86] Originally by: Orree Originally by: SATAN Here is my point of view. Most alliances in this game besides the obvious ones are not very strong, they may talk the talk but when it comes down to fighting its their neighbors and NAP list that saves the day. Say what you will about Hydra, but at least they come out and fight. They do very little smack talking and they keep coming back. From my perspective the only difference between Hydra and alot of the other big alliances in this game is leadership. Hydra just seems to be missing good commanders, and a goal. But to answer the opps question, to take Hydra's space you need to defeat Hydra, MM, Pure, Smash, Roadkill, Mostly Harmless, and a few more all at the same time believe me we tried when our resident carebear decided perhaps we should take some space. Which one is the "resident carebear." Name and shame... It was not me..... I was too busy playing WOW. Seriously, WOW > EVE
Gibson Rothman HOMELESS. Band of Bums	Posted - 2008.01.15 11:12:00 - [87] Originally by: Vasili Z You'll find all the actual pvpers who play just to pvp don't care about POS or sov and even if they did, there's not enough of them to control all the space in Eve. ^^^ Enough Said. More Heads, More Silver
Droewa Dark Centuri Inc. Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2008.01.15 11:33:00 - [88] FIX had nearly a 70% efficiency an still lost it's space.
Omega Man The Geddy Foundation	Posted - 2008.01.15 11:44:00 - [89] Edited by: Omega Man on 15/01/2008 11:50:42 Originally by: Khanid Kutie I've been spending my morning today looking at various alliance Killboards and wondering why some of these alliance holding space are STILL holding space. Most noticeably is Hydra Alliance. 44% Killboard efficiency, and no ones decided to threaten their sov? Also United Legion has pretty crappy KB efficiency. Who do you guys think is the least worthy to hold 0.0 space? (minus bob and goons, we all know how the majority feel about them). Very useful. So from the safety of your desk, you have identified alliances that hold space but you deem should not. What you now going to do about it? Write another memo and they will leave? It is one of those things, if they are holding space it is because they can. When they fail to hold space it is because they cannot. No amount of telling them they should not be holding it will make them wake up and say "you know that alt poster shuffling bits of a paper about is right, we better leave." There are many things which allow an entity to hold space, not all based on actually having to fight for it. - - Happy user of CAOD troll cleaner http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=584345
128th ABC123 Eve Liberation Force Sylph Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.15 11:53:00 - [90] Edited by: 128th ABC123 on 15/01/2008 11:54:13 The OP either has no concept of how 0.0 alliances run their space (pet alliances, holders etc) or is trying to start a riot by making a bold statement and is clearly looking for attention. And ffs post with your main. At least that way we can all have a look at your killboard and make dumb assumptions that KB ratio's A.) reflect how effective an alliance is at holding space B.) are always thruthfull C.) would have anything to say about the logistical capabilities of an alliance D.) would reflect things like fleet/gang participation, winning the fights that matter, having fat in an alliance with alot of new players that tend to screw up the KB stats.



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