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sethfon
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Posted - 2008.01.14 19:30:00 -
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Ok here it goes, there is a Machariel polit that is well, seems to be unbeatable.  We have tried a few things but can not even get close to tackling this guy nor even hurt him a little. He has a ship that will go around 8.5kn and nos form hell. Ok i know your saying this is a bs how can it go 8.5kn, we thought the same thing till we engauge it a few times and our fast ships can not even get close to him. He has shared his set up with us and in EFT it says it will go that fast.
Ok then i am asking how do you counter a ship that fast and can sux the cap out of you even with a 800 cap booster going full speed. We have tried tackling him with two ships and two webs each ship @ 86.5% each web x 4 and he still paws us in about two min. This while two ships fire on him with some real dps and he just paws us take one of the other two ships down and the other runs for his life.
So now when he comes into the system we run and hide in the station till he leaves. This is not my style i do not mind loosing a ship and most of my m8 either just seems a waste to try with out a better idea.
So some of you smart  let me know what team might beable to take this guy on? Thanks for any help just would like to know what might work.
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Requiescat
True Foundation
Sex Panthers
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Posted - 2008.01.14 19:34:00 -
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nanocurse and nanohuginn together in a gang should be able to do the trick
or just a bunch of well skilled raven pilots with precision cruise
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Stakhanov
Metafarmers
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Posted - 2008.01.14 19:37:00 -
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3-4 rapiers , tackle BS and a carrier ready to jump ? Not an unreasonable investment to catch something that might drop billions in mods.
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Moo Master
Caldari
Yarrrateers
Knights Of Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.01.14 19:37:00 -
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or get someone to jam him to hell.
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Jacob Castillo
Caldari
Copperhead Inc.
Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2008.01.14 19:49:00 -
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Where is this?
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Arvald
Caldari
Devilish Intentinos
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Posted - 2008.01.14 19:56:00 -
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well with the way nos works now just use a bunch of cap xfer arrays to keep his cap full while webing him and pounding the crap out of his ship
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85 Echo
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Posted - 2008.01.14 19:58:00 -
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Set up a scorpion to perma jam him, add tackle, and some sort of damage.
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Orar Ironfist
Incarnation of Evil
Nocturnal Legion
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Posted - 2008.01.14 20:06:00 -
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1-2 nano curse, 1-3 nano huginns(cant spell that ever)
and then if you really want a dps ship:
1-2 cruise ravens
Please dear god mods dont nerf this sig too its the 6th freakin one ive put up
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Agent Li
Caldari
Galactic Defence Consortium
BLACKHAWK FEDERATION
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Posted - 2008.01.14 20:10:00 -
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Two Scorps to jam the hooey out of him, and 2 cruise ravens to pound him into junk.
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sethfon
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Posted - 2008.01.14 20:16:00 -
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Thanks so far! (things we have now.)
Scorpion 2
Curse 1
Ravens 3 one with level 5 Bs so this might do the dps we need.
Hurricane 1
Meg 1
Hawk 1
So it looks like we might be able to take this guy on and get some real isk billions!
To be clear we have not done well so far he has kicked our coletive a--! But i am not one to run in hide so been thinking how to do this and being a noob to a point needed help! So thanks so far!
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Xonkra
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.01.14 20:33:00 -
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what !?
Originally by: Illyria Ambri
No matter how you want to say it.. it always sounds like
*frog clearing throat* "Ve zurrendur, dunt schuut"
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hellsknights
RennTech
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.14 20:52:00 -
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Edited by: hellsknights on 14/01/2008 20:53:44
Pretty simple something that can web/scram out of nos range "Rapier/hugiin,Arazu/Lachesis". With 2 or 3 sniping BS's "depends on how fast you want him dead".
The above = easily killed Mac.
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Cpt Branko
The Bloody Red
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Posted - 2008.01.14 21:03:00 -
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Originally by: sethfon
Ok here it goes, there is a Machariel polit that is well, seems to be unbeatable. We have tried a few things but can not even get close to tackling this guy nor even hurt him a little. He has a ship that will go around 8.5kn and nos form hell. Ok i know your saying this is a bs how can it go 8.5kn, we thought the same thing till we engauge it a few times and our fast ships can not even get close to him.
You do not have velocity tab open? Hmmm... That is not a good thing.
He has shared his set up with us and in EFT it says it will go that fast.
Originally by: sethfon
Ok then i am asking how do you counter a ship that fast and can sux the cap out of you even with a 800 cap booster going full speed.
You mean, neut? NOS nerf affects all NOS, even the faction ones; you cannot be nossed to less then your amount. So you're probably talking about neuts.
Originally by: sethfon
We have tried tackling him with two ships and two webs each ship @ 86.5% each web x 4 and he still paws us in about two min.
FFS, use 90% webs for tackling really fast ships. If fleeting is too expensive, then fit a T2. Just two webs (from one ship) should be enough, but four is awesome.
After he's tackled, and you have two minutes, get a neut-domi from the next system. Warp to 0 on the combatants. Neut to hell, double web, release drones. Dead Machariel. I don't understand what your problem is if you actually had it tackled.
Originally by: sethfon
So some of you smart let me know what team might beable to take this guy on? Thanks for any help just would like to know what might work.
If you are willing to spend the ISK... it's preety easy. Although, if you can get him tackled properly for two minutes, I don't understand what's the problem.
Other then that, no need to hide; just fly things he mustn't get closer then 24km to ;)
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Cpt Branko
The Bloody Red
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Posted - 2008.01.14 21:10:00 -
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Originally by: sethfon
Thanks so far! (things we have now.)
Scorpion 2
Curse 1
Ravens 3 one with level 5 Bs so this might do the dps we need.
Hurricane 1
Meg 1
Hawk 1
Replace the Hawk with something genuinely useful for something. Get a interceptor or something in its stead.
How can you web him with all this, though? I mean, clearly two scorps alone will totally and utterly disable him and you could kill him with a Rifter after that, but I see too much firepower and too little speed in the gang. After you web, you can warp in the scorps (I don't know who would ever ever engage a gang with two scorpions solo, unless you have 12 midslots for ECCM).
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Tal Nok
Amarr
DEATH'S LEGION
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Posted - 2008.01.14 21:23:00 -
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Originally by: sethfon
He has a ship that will go around 8.5kn Quote:
Thats it? Must have low grades
Originally by: hellsknights
It's always nice to kill something you can't afford
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Corstaad
Minmatar
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2008.01.14 21:30:00 -
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I would add you'd want a ceptor with instant lock and warp jam for his pod. You guys if you pull it off could have a very nice payday.
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Savesti Kyrsst
Minmatar
White-Noise
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Posted - 2008.01.14 21:57:00 -
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Edited by: Savesti Kyrsst on 14/01/2008 21:58:46
try 2 scorps w. racials and two hyenas
nano the hyenas, rig them and add hardwirings if you can afford it, should get close to its speed
need dps ofc too and your scorps will have to lock quick, use falcon/rook instead if you can but watch for his drones
edit: if your minnie pilot(s) have frig V hyena is a pretty short train
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Ask Unbeatable
Tenacious Danes
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Posted - 2008.01.14 21:57:00 -
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Way too much crap in this thread.
(nano)Rapier/huginn + ecmboat + dmg
Other stuff isn't needed tbh
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Shi'Nar
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Posted - 2008.01.14 22:50:00 -
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To the person who said lowgrades that is utter BS.
Polycarbed, Gist X-, Domination OD(x3) + Highgrade snakes (Out of gang, no claymore)
Does 8.5km.
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hedfunk
Caldari
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2008.01.14 22:54:00 -
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8.5km/s? That aint very fast. I've seen one go 18.5km/s.
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sethfon
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Posted - 2008.01.14 22:55:00 -
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I guess i am not explaining it right.
Now i see we have to tackle then ECM him so he can not lock our ships. Then we have to deal the dps. In this way we would not have the cap loss to lose the web. This was our mistake in our first encounter with him the last time.
Thanks every one who help in clearing up where i was making a mistake. I see the light i was not thinking about ECM for some reason.
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Shi'Nar
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Posted - 2008.01.14 23:07:00 -
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Originally by: sethfon
I guess i am not explaining it right.
Now i see we have to tackle then ECM him so he can not lock our ships. Then we have to deal the dps. In this way we would not have the cap loss to lose the web. This was our mistake in our first encounter with him the last time.
Thanks every one who help in clearing up where i was making a mistake. I see the light i was not thinking about ECM for some reason.
Whats his name? Where abouts is he? Assessing his age would help etc... '03, '04, etc..
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Aceoil
Murder-Death-Kill
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Posted - 2008.01.14 23:11:00 -
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Well I guess your question has been answered.
Now I guess I can thank you for not whining, but trying to think of a way to counter his setup in this extremely fast ship.
You will get a dead mach pilot yet.
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Shi'Nar
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Posted - 2008.01.14 23:11:00 -
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Edited by: Shi''Nar on 14/01/2008 23:11:52
Originally by: hedfunk
8.5km/s? That aint very fast. I've seen one go 18.5km/s.
More than likely overloaded, more than likely in gang(possible a claymore too), more then full nanos/overdrives in lows... Most machariels ive seen nowadays drop 2-3km/s for a large rep, inertias etc.
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Darkopteron
Nexus Analytics
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.01.14 23:32:00 -
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Arazu/Lachesis + Rapier/Huginn + Pilgrim/Curse + Falcon/Rook. Sorted.
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Gladiator Jonny
Omniscient Order
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Posted - 2008.01.14 23:40:00 -
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The amount of ship you people want to use to kill a single mach is dissapointing to say the least.
1x Nano Huggin/Raper
1x Nano Ishtar (web fitted)
Next is your call, possibly an arazu/lacheses. maybe some ecm, maybe more damage.
If the mach pilot makes a mistake, a huggin + ishtar combo will have no real problems tbh.
Unless he rushes the huggin ^-^ then your screwed tbqh.
On a larger scale as you seem to be doing:
1-2x Huggin/rapier/Stupidly powered Hyena
1-2x Nano Ishtar
1x ECM ship (if your really that scared)
honestly, shouldnt need more. shouldnt even need that.
a nice way to make sure of no losses, include a scimitar and fit a shield extender on the Huggin/Ishtars.
Seriously, you dont need a fleet to kill a single guy. Just some inteligence and maybe alittle luck
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Shi'Nar
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Posted - 2008.01.14 23:43:00 -
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Are you sure its running solo?
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sethfon
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Posted - 2008.01.15 00:48:00 -
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Thanks for your reply.
The char is from 03 he has snake implants and officer gear. He is good at solo fighting.I do not want to give his name because i do not want some one to let him know that i am trying to figure a way to take him down.
The best plan would to be to use his own ego againest him. We are not scarde just want to keep our loses to a min till we can take him at our game not his.
Too set the trap i have planned i need him to think he is going to pawn us easy! That way he might let his gaurd down so we can get close enough to tackle him with one ship.
So i hope see what i am trying to do get input from you older wiser too how a noob want 2b should try and take out a older smart !
If i do make the plan work i will then post who where it is. Then all the good loot we should get from a good ship!
If not might see if one of you good want to come and take a shot at him seeing how most think it is easy to do.
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Jazhara Gold
Perkone
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Posted - 2008.01.15 01:15:00 -
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Originally by: techzer0
Originally by: sethfon
The char is from 03 he has snake implants and officer gear. He is good at solo fighting.I do not want to give his name because i do not want some one to let him know that i am trying to figure a way to take him down.
He's an '03 player and you think he doesn't read these forums? Well.. ok... maybe
He has an ego to keep inflated he'll be loving it......
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techzer0
IDLE GUNS
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Posted - 2008.01.15 01:20:00 -
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Originally by: Jazhara Gold
Originally by: techzer0
Originally by: sethfon
The char is from 03 he has snake implants and officer gear. He is good at solo fighting.I do not want to give his name because i do not want some one to let him know that i am trying to figure a way to take him down.
He's an '03 player and you think he doesn't read these forums? Well.. ok... maybe
He has an ego to keep inflated he'll be loving it......
Heh, I figure half the posts telling how to kill the mach were made by alts of the guy. I know if I was rich and*****y i'd do it 
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